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'There is no deterrent': Less than a third of Dublin litter fines actually get paid

“The council don’t appear to give the issue of illegal dumping the attention it deserves,” one councillor said.

Updated 8.24

LESS THAN A third of all litter fines in the Dublin City Council area are being paid, according to information released to a councillor.

6,259 fines were issued across Dublin city between 2013 and 2015. Only 2,042 were paid in full with a further 77 fines being partially paid.

In total, 1,913 fines were appealed, of which 665 were successfully appealed.

1,741 prosecutions for non-payment of fines were initiated but only 173 convictions were obtained.

The information was released to councillor Cieran Perry, who said it was vital all fines are pursued “so that illegal dumpers fear getting caught”.

With the present system the chance of an illegal dumper getting prosecuted is slim. There is no deterrent.

In response, DCC has said that “Dublin City Council attempts to pursue all fines that remain unpaid through the courts. The challenge that faces the council is successfully serving summonses on people who have failed to pay in order to obtain successful convictions.”

DCC added that the it is constantly looking to improve the success of enforcement through investigations of illegal dumping using CCTV, waste collection surveys and inspections in the city.

In the years 2014 and 2015 the council paid €670,000 and €640,000 respectively to collect illegally dumped litter.

However, according to Perry, these figures do not include the removal of litter from flat complexes or parks.

“The council don’t appear to give the issue of illegal dumping the attention it deserves,” the councillor said.

“Illegal dumping is a huge issue and I’ve been highlighting it for years but I’m not convinced that the Council have the will to seriously tackle the issue.”

Payments of fines must be done by calling up DCC waste management service. To appeal a fine, a form must be completed and the person is required to set out the grounds for the appeal and the evidence to support it.

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    Mute johngahan
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:17 AM

    Nama is probably running out of opportunities to sell-off taxpayer assets at a massive discount.

    Any building that sells at twice the price Nama sold it for within 12 months should be subject to a 75% capital gains tax, and the original sale investigated.

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    Mute David Burke
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:48 AM

    NAMA sold of it’s foreign properties first while waiting for the Irish market to recover. It needed to start selling off some of it’s Irish properties at some stage and out of tens of billions in properties there are going to be some sales which we aren’t happy with.

    The thing is though, commercial property has had a V-shaped bounce back and the recovery growth is unlikely to continue at the same pace over the next few years. Prices collapsed and then sharply recovered but are going to grow at a slower pace similar to that of economy after the recovery.

    So essentially we are talking about setting up a state owned property development company. I think there are risks and benefits around that but a reasonable discussion should take place. There aren’t enormous profits likely to be made going forward but it could be a useful piece of public policy.

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    Mute John S
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:17 AM

    Yes because woe betide someone might see a bargain and make a few quid on something. By that logic Nama would never sell anything in case it went up in value, do you want them around forever?

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    Mute Ronan Mc Namara
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:48 AM

    This is positive news the quicker NAMA is gone the better for the country…..people said it could not work…. well it looks like it has.

    Investors are being influenced by the end of December deadline for obtaining capital gains tax relief over the next seven years.

    Recent proposals on mortgage finance announced by the Central Bank will have a direct impact on the market from now to December 2014.

    It looks like a scramble for the next 8 weeks for First Time Buyers and a cooling off in January.

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    Mute Kevin Carroll
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:12 AM

    That’s great, selling national assets at knock down prices to foreigners only to sell them back to us again at inflated prices, while greedy millionaires get debt write offs. A f*ckin master stroke!!!

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    Mute Foreigneachfear
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:27 AM

    Ha, I’ve heard developers are buying them back though other investors. There s a tribunal down the road for nama no doubt.

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    Mute David Burke
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:49 AM

    You mean market prices. Which is how much they are worth.

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    Mute Tom Red
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:20 AM

    NAMA has being having a 75% OFF sale on everything it’s sold since day one…..
    With NAMA it’s not what you know,
    But who you know that counts…

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    Mute Frederick Constant
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:43 AM

    Meaning what, exactly?

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    Mute The Guru
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:16 AM

    €10m profit in a year flipping a property. You have to have money to make money!

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    Mute Frederick Constant
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:09 AM

    That’s ambitious, but well done on delivering on your mandate. This is another big step towards national re-normalisation.

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    Mute Kerry Blake
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:10 AM

    Selling off property cheaply is normalisation? Really?

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    Mute John Moynihan
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:31 AM

    Why does NAMA need to close? Link it in with NABCO and FAS and rather than sell all the assets for huge discounts actually manage the properties and make money from renting commercial property and using the residential ones for social housing. Using FAS and the live register to get young people and unemployed builders back to work helping with the maintenance and in the case of some areas the completion of estates

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    Mute ed w
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:30 AM

    Joined up thinking from a government. You’re crazy.

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    Mute Emily Elephant
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:43 AM

    Because government bodies have such a great record at efficient property management and delivery of high quality accommodation?

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    Mute Coco McDee
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:41 AM

    If it all goes to plan IW will be no more in 4 days

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    Mute Murph11
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:25 AM

    Were we not told that all going well USC was a temporary measure? So guess Nama will be around for another bit

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    Mute PicassoRepublic
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:35 AM

    Ahhh – that’s the rub. NAMA will be wound up quickly otherwise they might have to charge their pals market rates – they know they cant sell the idea of a ‘fire sale’ when the market recovers.

    Therefore NAMA will be wound up, we’ll never know the cost to the taxpayer – yes NAMA may have purchased a debt/asset for say €10M and sold it for €11M, but the original cost to the taxpayer may have been €50M when we funded NAMAs discounted purchase (we took over the banks debt).

    The USC will remain indefinitely as Joe Public must still pay business debts run up in Ireland.

    This is the ultimate achievement in the concept of money moving to the very small group at the top – not only do they not lose, but they get another bight at the cherry at a discount.

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    Mute Evan Healy
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:09 AM

    Then in another 4 years after NAMA is no more we will have NAMA 2: revenge of the bubble.

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    Mute Ronan Mc Namara
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:31 AM

    How can it be a property bubble if people are still in negative equity?

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    Mute Inntalitarian
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:25 AM

    Well if they keep selling property to the likes of U2 at knockdown prices it’s no surprise they’re gonna wind up early.

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    Mute tax slave
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:14 AM

    It will be with us for a lot longer than that to many people at the top making money

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    Mute Declan Gartlan
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:24 AM

    Same people that said Nama would never work now moaning it’s working to well also said Nama paid to much to the banks for assets shot memories

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    Mute Marko Burns
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:55 AM

    NAMA could have wiped out homelessness, instead it just sold off half the capital to foreigners on the cheap and assets back to dodgy developers who already owe it money. Longest game of Monopoly in history…

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    Mute The Irish Bull
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:29 AM

    And then we can have the scandal.

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    Mute Mark Kirwan
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:25 AM

    Indeed. The inevitability of it all is so depressing.

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    Mute M Bowe
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:01 AM

    Why is this being allowed to happen with these National assets.
    Green REIT came into existence 15 months ago. Hovered up €758 million of them and just announced €53 million first year rental income. That is a 7% return and with upward only rents can only get better.
    These assets should be managed and kept to add to the country’s balance sheet.
    Our own pension reserve could do with an annual 7% return very nicely.

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    Mute Cb2010
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:50 AM

    NAMA did a good job given the prevailing environment of madness

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    Mute Mark Kirwan
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:24 AM

    They are so untranparent in their dealings that there is no way we can possibly know that yet.

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    Mute Frances King
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 8:49 PM

    That’s because they own loans, not properties.

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    Mute Dessie Curley
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 1:32 PM

    Do they still own loads of property a road such as london etc as well as holiday homes in Southern Europe etc. never mentioned in any of their reports that are public.

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    Mute james r
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    Oct 23rd 2014, 3:01 PM

    Because there’ll be nothing more to sell off at rock bottom prices

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