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Shane Ross: 'People want me to come to the Bus Éireann dispute with money. I have none to offer'

The Transport Minister rejected all calls to intervene in the dispute.

Updated 12:40pm

THIS MORNING, Minister for Transport Shane Ross appeared before an Oireachtas Committee to discuss the impending Bus Éireann strike, rejecting claims that he and his department weren’t doing enough on the issue.

On Monday, Bus Éireann workers issued notice that they would go on indefinite strike from next Monday. Ross has faced repeated calls to intervene personally to help resolve the dispute after talks at the Workplace Relations Commission failed to find a breakthrough.

He said he particularly wanted to “rebut suggestions that [he was] not doing enough to enable a settlement to be reached” between Bus Éireann and the trade unions involved.

He rejected any assertion that he, or his government colleagues, are “seeking a very low cost employment model” for Bus Éireann, adding that this is not the case.

On numerous occasions under questioning from Committee members, Ross rejected calls for him to personally intervene in the dispute, saying that he “wouldn’t get involved” and wouldn’t “take sides”.

Rural plan

Ross began by rejecting claims that the level of public service obligation (PSO) funding for bus routes around the country was insufficient, saying it had increased by 11% last year and that Bus Éireann had benefitted from a 21% increase in its subvention in 2016.

He said that both his department and Leo Varadkar’s Department of Social Protection were looking at the issue of funding for the Free Travel Scheme.

The Minister also rejected the allegation made by opposition TDs that the government is “attacking” the public bus service in rural Ireland. “That’s nonsense,” he said.

“We need to stop confusing issues here,” he added.

We’re actually expanding the public bus service in rural Ireland through increasing the amount of PSO funding to Bus Éireann as I’ve already pointed out, and also providing a 24% increase in funding to the Rural Transport Programme.

“The vast majority of people in rural Ireland who use a bus travel on a PSO service or a commercial operator other than Expressway,” he added, saying that he hoped to increase PSO funding this year.

Yesterday, the National Transport Authority announced plans to step in and fill the gaps on planned route closures, such as the Athlone-Westport Expressway route.

Refusal to intervene

Fine Gael TD for Louth Peter Fitzpatrick was up first with questions and was the first to ask Shane Ross to personally intervene in the industrial dispute.

Fitzpatrick said: “The dispute is escalating. A situation no one wants to see. What are you personally doing to help fix this? I urge you to take a more active role.

We face a very real possibility that Bus Éireann will fold. We need your intervention now.

Ross replied: “I have consistently said I won’t intervene directly. I have urged them to come to the table, which they did last week.

“I don’t feel it would be the right thing to do. It would be wrong of me to say I’m on one side or the other.

What I don’t see from people who call for my intervention is what they think my intervention will do. They think I will come into this dispute with money to offer. I don’t have money to offer.

Fianna Fáil TD Robert Troy said that a review of Bus Éireann that the committee received from Ross’ department didn’t address the commercial viability of the Expressway service.

He said he had confidence in the unions and Bus Éireann management, but he added: “I don’t have confidence in you, Minister”.

Ross replied: “I’m very sorry you don’t have confidence in me, Deputy Troy. If you don’t have confidence in me, why are you asking me to go in there?”

Troy said that Ross could redeem himself by establishing a forum for all stakeholders to come together to resolve the dispute.

Ross concurred that all parties should come together, but he shouldn’t attend as he would be asked to do things that he “cannot do”.

People Before Profit TD Bríd Smith said that when the “contagion” on public transport services comes next week, the public would be furious that Ross had taken no action before the strike happens.

“It does not make an iota of sense,” she said. “This will be a national disaster.”

Sinn Féin TD Imelda Munster put it to him in a plainer manner. “Please don’t give me the spiel that you won’t get involved. In the jaws of an all-out strike, you’re still refusing knowing the chaos it will cause. What are you going to do about it?”

She said he had every opportunity to take action on this issue sooner.

Ross retorted that the notion that he had sat back and done nothing was “patently false”.

“I haven’t done the one thing you’ve asked me to do (intervene), but that does not mean inaction on my part,” he said.

Past comments

Social Democrat TD Catherine Murphy asked Ross if, as the government was a shareholder, had he identified if there was sufficient capacity within Bus Éireann to find savings that would resolve this dispute.  ”Can they plug the gap?” she asked.

Ross said he hasn’t identified where savings could be made, because it wasn’t his responsibility.

“My view is that the company has to be run on a commercial basis, but the extra revenue it needs to raise must be the responsibility of the company,” he said.

She pointed to a time in 2013, when he addressed a committee and asked the government why, as a shareholder, it had not intervened in a separate dispute.

She also accused him of changing his opinion on the NTA, citing a statement he also was said to have made in 2013: “The NTA is a captive; it’s a quick learner of the quango culture. Set up to supervise Irish transport’s shambles… It serves a real purpose and shields the government from the political charge that the government puts up public transport fares.”

He responded by asking how many political parties Murphy has been a member of, and she said “attack is the best form of defence”.

“I congratulate you on your versatility, as you congratulate mine,” Ross said.

He added that he was optimistic that savings could be found and that Expressway had a future. “I am confident it can be done,” he said.

The responsibility for Bus Éireann’s cost savings was not his, but their own management, Ross argued.

Read: Bus Éireann strike: National Transport Authority to ‘step-in’ on planned route closures

Read: Bus Éireann staff to begin indefinite strike from Monday

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    Aug 5th 2017, 1:06 PM

    I had two cans of Budweiser last night – don’t judge me, it was in the back of the fridge for the last month or so after a get-together & I wanted something cold & frothy.

    This morning I feel like I got home at 5 after a bender.

    I think your tolerance goes down as you get older.

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    Aug 5th 2017, 1:09 PM

    @OU812: that’s what you get for drinking that shite

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    Aug 5th 2017, 1:11 PM

    @OU812: Two whole cans of bud all to yourself? I think you might have a drink problem

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    Mute Scorpionvenomm
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    Aug 5th 2017, 1:16 PM

    @David: lol

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    Mute Ron North
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    Aug 5th 2017, 1:19 PM

    @OU812: Your not drinking enough, thats your problem. You need to drink hard and regularly to keep the liver muscle in shape.

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    Mute billy Dorney
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    Aug 5th 2017, 1:46 PM

    @OU812: Def

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    Mute David
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    Aug 5th 2017, 2:05 PM

    @Richard Wright: Budweiser is American for pisswater

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    Mute David
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    Aug 5th 2017, 2:06 PM

    @Richard Wright: and if you drink a lot of it, you end up shitting water as well

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    Aug 5th 2017, 2:56 PM

    @OU812: I always keep a drink handy in case i see a snake. Which i also keep handy.

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    Aug 5th 2017, 1:29 PM

    My wallet knows what my weekly alcohol limit is.

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    Aug 5th 2017, 4:03 PM

    @Mick Power: Good point, my wallet says No.

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    Aug 5th 2017, 1:18 PM

    I’ve a well balanced diet. A pint of Guinness in each hand.

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    Aug 5th 2017, 1:46 PM

    @Ciaran Fairley: smile

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    Aug 5th 2017, 3:14 PM

    @Ciaran Fairley: so your the lad enda was going on about. Are ya for or against the water charges ….

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    Mute billy Dorney
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    Aug 5th 2017, 1:45 PM

    Know mine,zero,had enough in the younger days, God don’t miss the hangovers lads!

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    Aug 5th 2017, 1:34 PM

    A pair of quadruple whiskies and another pair of pints, please …

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    Mute Euron snatch a bitch
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    Aug 5th 2017, 2:12 PM

    Drink is mad. When else would you sit around a table and drink 8 pints of any other liquid?

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    Aug 5th 2017, 1:23 PM

    Nice to have a cold pint now and again

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    Aug 5th 2017, 8:12 PM

    @Scorpionvenomm: tempting me

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    Aug 5th 2017, 1:10 PM

    Few pints Friday, few pints Sunday. Maybe some wine on a Saturday.

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    Aug 5th 2017, 2:26 PM

    Drank about 15 botles of beer yesterday. Then had three bottles of red wine with my wife over dinner. Going back to bed now I’m so sick.

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    Aug 5th 2017, 1:58 PM

    Two slabs at home during the week and then the pub at the weekend fills me up nicely!

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    Aug 5th 2017, 3:20 PM

    When was it changed from 14 a week for women and 21 for men?

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    Aug 5th 2017, 2:20 PM

    When you are no longer perpendicular to the ground, you have enough.

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    Aug 5th 2017, 2:54 PM

    Seriously though I’ve a relative who has drank and gambled his whole life and still does! He’s in his 80s! I said he should leave his body to science!

    Though drinking can be fun it is quite dangerous. Take care of yourself.

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    Aug 5th 2017, 9:12 PM

    @Frank Cooney: stop stealing Brendan Grace’s best material (from 1980!)

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    Mute Adrian Connolly
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    Aug 6th 2017, 3:10 AM

    @Deborah Behan: whatever you do, don’t cremated him, it willl take years to put him out.

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    Aug 5th 2017, 1:56 PM

    About €20

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    Aug 5th 2017, 2:07 PM

    What’s a limit

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    Aug 5th 2017, 1:08 PM

    Not enough

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    Aug 5th 2017, 3:25 PM

    I always laugh at the standard unit of alcohol, a half pint. When did Irish people start drinking half pints. so 8 and a half pints over 5 days. Do the maths, most people who drink sociably would go over that limit easily.
    Then you have an alcohol problem!!!! There has to be some common sense from the anti drink people and they rarely show it.

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    Aug 6th 2017, 7:07 AM

    @Gary Kearney: Thats the point of the article:
    “Most people who drink sociably would go over that limit easily”.
    Over the limit means it is bad for your health, they didnt ‘choose’ that number for any other reason.

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    Aug 5th 2017, 2:57 PM

    Makes me feel a tad better about myself. 17 standard drinks is circa 4 bottles of red wine. I’m just 3 bottles over. Sorted.

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    Aug 5th 2017, 6:48 PM

    @Gavin Scott: a bottle of wine is usually 7-10 units depending on alcohol content. So 2 bottles will put you over. Personally I drink whiskey out of a wine glass

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    Aug 5th 2017, 2:29 PM

    I know when to call it a night when I topple over and spilt my head open.. Then off for a kebab and home. I’m sensible

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    Mute A H
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    Aug 5th 2017, 9:14 PM

    @Acedeuce: do you not make sure after you fall over by having some whiskey for a night cap then the kebab ….better to be sure

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    Aug 5th 2017, 3:00 PM

    I would typically conform to a reverse of the recommended drinking pattern.

    5 days drink free and then 17 (or thereabouts) units over 2 consecutive days at the weekend.

    “No no, I wouldn’t touch a drop during the week”……..

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    Aug 5th 2017, 2:14 PM

    Let’s see three maybe pints of beer shandy . A year . Maybe less . Some years none really.

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    Aug 5th 2017, 2:25 PM

    @WilhelminaMCallaghan: fascinating. When you bringing the book out?

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    Mute Paul Jennings
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    Aug 5th 2017, 3:26 PM

    No problem with alcohol. It’s all I can do to cope with my “liking” for another class “A” drug in all but name – sugar. Affordable, accessible and socially acceptable cocaine. ….”oh, thanks, 3 spoons please.”

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    Aug 5th 2017, 6:58 PM

    My weekly alcohol limit is exactly what I decide it to be

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    Aug 5th 2017, 3:57 PM

    Is this limit generated by the same ‘experts’ that say Tea,Coffee,Butter,Sugar,Cereals,Bread,Fries,Juices,Margarine,Pizzas…..are bad your health also?

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    Aug 5th 2017, 1:57 PM

    You know when you fall over you have had enough alcohol.

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    Mute Paraic McDonagh
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    Aug 5th 2017, 7:15 PM

    Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat.

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    Mute Shane Nolan
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    Aug 5th 2017, 2:59 PM

    Bull on this looking for more reasons to up price.

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    Mute Deborah Behan
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    Aug 5th 2017, 2:51 PM

    Or they don’t care!

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    Aug 5th 2017, 7:54 PM

    I dont know what it is…
    I know i am way over it, and the night is young!!

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    Aug 5th 2017, 5:14 PM

    Mine is when i fall down or fall asleep.

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    Aug 5th 2017, 3:55 PM

    Theres a limit

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    Aug 5th 2017, 7:57 PM

    Bore off. Seriously, who reads this sh ite and changes their habits? Get to Fu ck journal

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    Mute Rui Firmino
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    Aug 5th 2017, 11:58 PM

    Quelle surprise

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