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Fun poll: Is it really wrong to refer to 17 March as St Patty's Day?

Your daily bite-sized ballot break.

OUR NATIONAL HOLIDAY celebrations extend beyond these shores each year to wherever the Irish diaspora has made its mark. Likewise, there is always scope for someone to get the cultural references slightly wrong.

US President Donald Trump’s team earned scorn for putting a four-leaf clover instead of a shamrock on his Irish-American-themed caps (a mistake also made by Trump’s predecessor Barack Obama in 2012). The Republican party then added insult to injury by tweeting that supporters should grab one of the hats for ‘St Patty’s Day’.

For today’s fun poll, we are asking you:

Is it really terrible to call 17 March ‘St Patty’s Day’?


Poll Results:

'Tis, to be sure (13323)
I don't give a shillelagh either way (1763)
Yerrah, it's grand (722)

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    Mute Neal, not Neil.
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    Mar 14th 2017, 12:49 PM

    I had an aunt called Patty and an uncle called Paddy, and can therefore confirm that they are not the same.

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    Mute James Darby
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    Mar 14th 2017, 1:48 PM

    If your aunt had balls she’d be your uncle

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    Mute Charles Williams
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    Mar 14th 2017, 1:58 PM

    @Neal, not Neil.: like the difference between ignorance and apathy, I don’t know and I don’t care.

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    Mute Panem et Circenses
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    Mar 14th 2017, 2:25 PM

    Hahaha, very good @Niall, not Neil

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    Mute sean o'dhubhghaill
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    Mar 14th 2017, 12:55 PM

    It is St. Patrick’s Day.

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    Mute John S
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    Mar 14th 2017, 2:17 PM

    @sean o’dhubhghaill: Patty = Marge Simpson’s sister, Patrick/Paddy = patron saint of Ireland.

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    Mute Slew Lok
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    Mar 14th 2017, 2:43 PM

    And always will be

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    Mute Stephen Duggan
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    Mar 14th 2017, 12:48 PM

    That would be an ecumenical matter.

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    Mute Bennythekid
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    Mar 14th 2017, 1:00 PM

    Paddys day/end of.

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    Mute Dean Callaghan
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    Mar 14th 2017, 1:05 PM

    YES

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    Mute David Stapleton
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    Mar 15th 2017, 9:59 AM

    Or is it Paddy’s day?

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    Mute Richard Doherty
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    Mar 14th 2017, 12:55 PM

    My comment would be whos patty and why have they got a day

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    Mute Pinkpantheroz
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    Mar 14th 2017, 12:52 PM

    Patty, to me as a name, usually is feminine. So unless St. Patrick had a sex change or came out as transender back then, I don’t think it should be used. BTW, I’m not impressed with St. Paddy, either. It spanks of arrogance and condescention to me. Stop being lazy.

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    Mute Deborah Behan
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    Mar 14th 2017, 1:46 PM

    St Patrick having a sex change! Brilliant!!

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    Mute James Onedin
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    Mar 14th 2017, 10:57 PM

    @Deborah Behan: Moo Deborah.

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    Mute David Stapleton
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    Mar 15th 2017, 9:57 AM

    Well, popular depictions do show him in a skirt…

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    Mute Panem et Circenses
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    Mar 14th 2017, 1:08 PM

    Ffs…of course it’s F’ing wrong. How about we pronounce the first day of the week as f’ing “Menday” from now on…f’ing eejits over there in the US…

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    Mar 14th 2017, 1:40 PM

    @panem… its not a great sretch of the imagination to realise that some yanks dont see how we get paDDy from paTrick, and mistakenly say paTTy. The real story is why we are reading about it on the Journal again, this year as last. I realise i didn’t have to click on it… but here we are, again!

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    Mute The Thinker
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    Mar 14th 2017, 1:49 PM

    @gameoverman, we’re reading about it again because the issue hasn’t still been resolved, the eejits are still using that name.

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    Mar 14th 2017, 2:08 PM

    @the thinker… i just explained why they do it! Do you really think they do it maliciously? They’d do anything to claim Irish heritage. Are you suggesting there is a way to resolve such a thing? Of course theres not! The story is ‘it pïsses you off’, nothing more.

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    Mute Panem et Circenses
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    Mar 14th 2017, 2:24 PM

    GameOverMan; it’s sheer F’ing ignorance on their part at this stage. They’ve been online now for 25 F’ing years like the F’ing rest of us. Think it’s not too far off their Fing ability to view a Fing Wikipedia page…But then again…We are speaking about the yanks here.

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    Mute Michael Lynch
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    Mar 14th 2017, 2:42 PM

    It’s a subconscious thing with Yanks to connect it back to fast food.

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    Mute GameOverMan
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    Mar 14th 2017, 9:42 PM

    …and yet all your years of internet knowledge and you still cant pronounce Aluminium, the American way. You must be F’ing ignorant then, yeah?

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    Mute Jimmy McCarthy
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    Mar 14th 2017, 12:56 PM

    Just as wrong as calling it St. Paddy’s day..

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    Mute Padraig
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    Mar 14th 2017, 1:14 PM

    @Jimmy McCarthy:Paddy is ok James.

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    Mar 14th 2017, 1:22 PM

    As per The Rubberbandits “Patty’s Day” is the yank version with green beer, corned beef and cabbage (and they’re welcome to it)

    We’ll hold on to Paddy’s Day thanks.

    St. Patrick’s Day is what my Mam celebrates with Mass and a cup of tea……

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    Mute Tricia Golden
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    Mar 14th 2017, 1:25 PM

    Another dumb yank thing is that STUPID fecking “pinch a person not wearing green sh!te”

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    Mute Donal O'Leary
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    Mar 14th 2017, 12:52 PM

    Paddys Day or bust!

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    Mute Pinkpantheroz
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    Mar 14th 2017, 12:58 PM

    @Donal O’Leary: If he had a bust, it would surely be Patty then!

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    Mar 14th 2017, 1:49 PM

    Firstly Paddy and Patty are not the same. Secondly Paddy is a name in its own right separate from Patrick now. And Thirdly and more importantly. As Paddy has been used as a racist term for an Irish Person we should not allow them to refer to our patron saint’s day as Paddy’s day. It’s St Patrick’s day. Plain and simple

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    Mar 14th 2017, 1:19 PM

    Considering these are the same people who have started lecturing everyone about cultural appropriation and that you can’t do it because you don’t get it right then ya, it is wrong to call it patty’s day and they shouldn’t celebrate it until they can get it right. By their own standards.

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    Mar 14th 2017, 2:18 PM

    The journals equally racist answer options make the question hypocritical.

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    Mute Ciaran Dunne
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    Mar 14th 2017, 2:20 PM

    Have to say when ,Media/ Radio stations call it Paddy’s day” it doesn’t sit well with me !

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    Mar 14th 2017, 4:05 PM

    It’s fine if we get to call “thanksgiving” “I’ll take your food and kill all your descendants” day

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    Mute Stephanie Barry
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    Mar 14th 2017, 2:22 PM

    Whenever I hear ‘patty’, I think of Spongebob Squarepants! Also reminds me of a time when I got horrendous food poisoning from a ill-cooked one!

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    Mute Tony Gartland
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    Mar 14th 2017, 2:42 PM

    @Stephanie Barry: ¨Patty… a girls name, or meat for a burger, even though the spelling IS different

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    Mar 14th 2017, 1:21 PM

    It’s no worse than calling it Paddy’s Day

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    Mar 14th 2017, 2:19 PM

    The most braindead poll ever …is it ok to call St PATRICKS day St Pattys day ..seriously?

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    Mar 14th 2017, 4:05 PM

    WTF is ” Pattys Day”?? I never called it anything other than “Patricks Day”. I am well used to “Paddys Day” but Pattys…..thats pure Scutter and whats with the diddly i leprechaun survey questions????!!!!!!!!

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    Mar 14th 2017, 12:56 PM

    More faux outrage brought to you by the same people who were outraged that a 4 leaf clover was being used as an Irish symbol rather than a shamrock. I really don’t care but it’s enough to send some self important people into coronary failure.

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    Mar 14th 2017, 12:59 PM

    @Eamonn:
    The four leaf clover drives me bonkers

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    Mute Pinkpantheroz
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    Mar 14th 2017, 1:01 PM

    @Eamonn: Oh, Spiro Agnew!

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    Mar 14th 2017, 3:08 PM

    Surprised that the Journal actually had to ask this question.Unfortunately its only ignorant americans and some canadians who call it pattys day.
    That and the whole pinching another person if they are not wearing green is ridiculous
    They simply haven’t a clue about Ireland or St Patrick and have turned Irelands National Day into something out of Disney.
    All the more reason to educate them at every given opportunity

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    Mar 14th 2017, 2:01 PM

    Yet when they say Water they replace the T with a D.. F@~kin Americans :P

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    Mute Tony Gartland
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    Mar 14th 2017, 2:41 PM

    To quote a former minister for defence…. ‘its a “THUNDERING DISGRACE”

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    Mute Neil Ginty
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    Mar 14th 2017, 2:07 PM

    Irish and Irish-American cultures evolved differently. Paddy was derogatory so they used Patty. Don’t get your knickers/panties in a twist over it!! The clover and green beer admittedly is just wrong though !!

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    Mar 14th 2017, 10:58 PM

    Only a complete onanist would call it Patty’s day or Paddy’s day for that matter. The correct title is Saint Patrick’s Day, it’s not that hard to say it.

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    Mar 14th 2017, 4:21 PM

    What I find more insulting is that they serve a drink called ‘An Irish Car Bomb’ on the day in question, not what they do/don’t call it.

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    Mute Neil Ginty
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    Mar 14th 2017, 2:07 PM

    Irish and Irish-American cultures evolved differently. Paddy was derogatory so they used Patty. Don’t get your knickers/panties in a twist over it!! The clover and green beer admittedly is just wrong though !!

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    Mar 14th 2017, 9:27 PM

    Firstly yes it’s wrong, secondly only in films will ya ’tis to be sure etc and Finally the colour of St.Patrick is Light Blue

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    Mute Micheál De Bhaldraithe
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    Mar 14th 2017, 6:58 PM

    Who calls it Patty’s day?

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    Mar 14th 2017, 12:50 PM

    Dumb Micks’ Day

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    Mar 14th 2017, 12:51 PM

    Amateurs day

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    Mar 14th 2017, 1:36 PM

    Never heard of it referred to as that

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    Mar 14th 2017, 3:25 PM
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    Mar 14th 2017, 5:28 PM

    They are banning LGBTQ groups in Boston, while in Ireland we’ll take the D over the TT’s

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    Mar 14th 2017, 4:34 PM

    Dangerous article to post most journal posters here see st paddys day as a day of mourning as they dont wanna be Irish as they see everywhere outside of Ireland as a utopia. Please make a really negative article to make up for it

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