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OUR NATIONAL HOLIDAY celebrations extend beyond these shores each year to wherever the Irish diaspora has made its mark. Likewise, there is always scope for someone to get the cultural references slightly wrong.
US President Donald Trump’s team earned scorn for putting a four-leaf clover instead of a shamrock on his Irish-American-themed caps (a mistake also made by Trump’s predecessor Barack Obama in 2012). The Republican party then added insult to injury by tweeting that supporters should grab one of the hats for ‘St Patty’s Day’.
For today’s fun poll, we are asking you:
Is it really terrible to call 17 March ‘St Patty’s Day’?
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I had an aunt called Patty and an uncle called Paddy, and can therefore confirm that they are not the same.
If your aunt had balls she’d be your uncle
@Neal, not Neil.: like the difference between ignorance and apathy, I don’t know and I don’t care.
Hahaha, very good @Niall, not Neil
It is St. Patrick’s Day.
@sean o’dhubhghaill: Patty = Marge Simpson’s sister, Patrick/Paddy = patron saint of Ireland.
And always will be
That would be an ecumenical matter.
Paddys day/end of.
YES
Or is it Paddy’s day?
My comment would be whos patty and why have they got a day
Patty, to me as a name, usually is feminine. So unless St. Patrick had a sex change or came out as transender back then, I don’t think it should be used. BTW, I’m not impressed with St. Paddy, either. It spanks of arrogance and condescention to me. Stop being lazy.
St Patrick having a sex change! Brilliant!!
@Deborah Behan: Moo Deborah.
Well, popular depictions do show him in a skirt…
Ffs…of course it’s F’ing wrong. How about we pronounce the first day of the week as f’ing “Menday” from now on…f’ing eejits over there in the US…
@panem… its not a great sretch of the imagination to realise that some yanks dont see how we get paDDy from paTrick, and mistakenly say paTTy. The real story is why we are reading about it on the Journal again, this year as last. I realise i didn’t have to click on it… but here we are, again!
@gameoverman, we’re reading about it again because the issue hasn’t still been resolved, the eejits are still using that name.
@the thinker… i just explained why they do it! Do you really think they do it maliciously? They’d do anything to claim Irish heritage. Are you suggesting there is a way to resolve such a thing? Of course theres not! The story is ‘it pïsses you off’, nothing more.
GameOverMan; it’s sheer F’ing ignorance on their part at this stage. They’ve been online now for 25 F’ing years like the F’ing rest of us. Think it’s not too far off their Fing ability to view a Fing Wikipedia page…But then again…We are speaking about the yanks here.
It’s a subconscious thing with Yanks to connect it back to fast food.
…and yet all your years of internet knowledge and you still cant pronounce Aluminium, the American way. You must be F’ing ignorant then, yeah?
Just as wrong as calling it St. Paddy’s day..
@Jimmy McCarthy:Paddy is ok James.
As per The Rubberbandits “Patty’s Day” is the yank version with green beer, corned beef and cabbage (and they’re welcome to it)
We’ll hold on to Paddy’s Day thanks.
St. Patrick’s Day is what my Mam celebrates with Mass and a cup of tea……
Another dumb yank thing is that STUPID fecking “pinch a person not wearing green sh!te”
Paddys Day or bust!
@Donal O’Leary: If he had a bust, it would surely be Patty then!
Firstly Paddy and Patty are not the same. Secondly Paddy is a name in its own right separate from Patrick now. And Thirdly and more importantly. As Paddy has been used as a racist term for an Irish Person we should not allow them to refer to our patron saint’s day as Paddy’s day. It’s St Patrick’s day. Plain and simple
Considering these are the same people who have started lecturing everyone about cultural appropriation and that you can’t do it because you don’t get it right then ya, it is wrong to call it patty’s day and they shouldn’t celebrate it until they can get it right. By their own standards.
The journals equally racist answer options make the question hypocritical.
Have to say when ,Media/ Radio stations call it Paddy’s day” it doesn’t sit well with me !
It’s fine if we get to call “thanksgiving” “I’ll take your food and kill all your descendants” day
Whenever I hear ‘patty’, I think of Spongebob Squarepants! Also reminds me of a time when I got horrendous food poisoning from a ill-cooked one!
@Stephanie Barry: ¨Patty… a girls name, or meat for a burger, even though the spelling IS different
It’s no worse than calling it Paddy’s Day
The most braindead poll ever …is it ok to call St PATRICKS day St Pattys day ..seriously?
WTF is ” Pattys Day”?? I never called it anything other than “Patricks Day”. I am well used to “Paddys Day” but Pattys…..thats pure Scutter and whats with the diddly i leprechaun survey questions????!!!!!!!!
More faux outrage brought to you by the same people who were outraged that a 4 leaf clover was being used as an Irish symbol rather than a shamrock. I really don’t care but it’s enough to send some self important people into coronary failure.
@Eamonn:
The four leaf clover drives me bonkers
@Eamonn: Oh, Spiro Agnew!
Surprised that the Journal actually had to ask this question.Unfortunately its only ignorant americans and some canadians who call it pattys day.
That and the whole pinching another person if they are not wearing green is ridiculous
They simply haven’t a clue about Ireland or St Patrick and have turned Irelands National Day into something out of Disney.
All the more reason to educate them at every given opportunity
Yet when they say Water they replace the T with a D.. F@~kin Americans :P
To quote a former minister for defence…. ‘its a “THUNDERING DISGRACE”
Irish and Irish-American cultures evolved differently. Paddy was derogatory so they used Patty. Don’t get your knickers/panties in a twist over it!! The clover and green beer admittedly is just wrong though !!
Only a complete onanist would call it Patty’s day or Paddy’s day for that matter. The correct title is Saint Patrick’s Day, it’s not that hard to say it.
What I find more insulting is that they serve a drink called ‘An Irish Car Bomb’ on the day in question, not what they do/don’t call it.
Irish and Irish-American cultures evolved differently. Paddy was derogatory so they used Patty. Don’t get your knickers/panties in a twist over it!! The clover and green beer admittedly is just wrong though !!
Firstly yes it’s wrong, secondly only in films will ya ’tis to be sure etc and Finally the colour of St.Patrick is Light Blue
Who calls it Patty’s day?
Dumb Micks’ Day
Amateurs day
Never heard of it referred to as that
They are banning LGBTQ groups in Boston, while in Ireland we’ll take the D over the TT’s
Dangerous article to post most journal posters here see st paddys day as a day of mourning as they dont wanna be Irish as they see everywhere outside of Ireland as a utopia. Please make a really negative article to make up for it
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