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'It's unspeakable, what's going on': Shane Ross meets families of Coast Guard crew

Searches are ongoing to locate chief pilot Mark Duffy and winchmen Paul Ormsby and Ciarán Smith.

Updated 3.15pm

TRANSPORT MINISTER SHANE Ross is meeting with the families of the Coast Guard crew who were affected by yesterday’s tragic incident.

Efforts are continuing to locate the three remaining crewmembers from the coastguard helicopter that went down in Mayo early yesterday morning.

Four crew members were on board the downed Rescue 116 helicopter. Captain Dara Fitzpatrick was recovered from the sea yesterday but she passed away yesterday afternoon. Searches are now ongoing to locate chief pilot Mark Duffy and winchmen Paul Ormsby and Ciarán Smith.

It’s understood the searches are focusing on finding the remains of the helicopter itself.

Speaking this morning, Gerard O’Flynn of the Coast Guard said that mapping equipment is being used in the search. There are three garda teams ready to dive, but the sea is too rough at the moment.

The diving teams are evaluating the situation and assessing where they might dive, and will be helped by information from the Marine Institute and any information obtained by way of debris.

The Ballyglas volunteer Coast Guard team are continuing to do a search.

“Unspeakable”

Minister Shane Ross has arrived at the scene and is currently meeting with family of the crew members. Speaking to journalists at the scene, he said that it is “unspeakable what’s going on”.

He said he is at the scene “to express the solidarity” of the Government with the family members “in this awful hour in their lives”. He said he also wanted to say to the community “that we think that what they’re doing is absolutely wonderful, uniting behind the families here today”.

He expressed solidarity and sympathy to everybody involved. Ross also noted the work that the Coast Guard crew had themselves none in saving people’s lives.

The idea that people whose purpose in life, whose motivation in life, was to save people have lost their lives themselves makes it all the more poignant. These people have saved some people’s lives in the past and have now lost their own. It’s a tragedy.

Ross said he has spoken to Taoiseach Enda Kenny – who is in Boston – and they agreed that the State would give any help needed to the families, to “find those who are missing and establish what happened and to do anything to alleviate the distress”.

Atmosphere of shock

Earlier today, John Gallagher of the community co-op said there is an atmosphere of shock in the area.

“Because we live in a very remote and disadvantaged area we rely on the emergency services every day,” he said. Locals have been helping out in a big way with the search.

We will continue as long as we have to. There are people who have been coordinating with the Coast Guard who are going out walking the beaches. We are getting calls from all over the county of people who are wanting to come down. They are walking the beaches with us. Mainly the beach on the western side of the peninsula, it is very easy to access.

He said that the whole community is getting involved, and “it is getting wider as it goes on”. “The search of the shoreline is important,” he said, noting that there are five or six boats involved in the search and several smaller boats which are bringing people to and from the larger craft.

The search is underway with reduced weather conditions this morning. Search and rescue operations manager with the Irish Coast Guard, Gerard O’Flynn told reporters at the scene:

“Deteriorating weather conditions will make it more difficult but they’re all professional searchers, they know what they’re at and the search is very well resourced and at the moment we’re not seeking any other assistance from the public or anything like that.”

He said the search is being conducted where debris has been found, “It’s in a relatively small area of perhaps two square miles or so.”

O’Flynn added that the process is “enormously difficult for family”.

They’re looking for hard information and just clutching at straws. It is the most difficult thing in a search of this type.

“Your heart would go out to them when you see small kids, parents, brothers, sisters, relations – they are doing their best to support each other but it is a very difficult time for them.

“They’re hoping any boat that’s moving is something new, some new bit of information. It’s very very difficult.”

lr crew search 758A1201_90505434 (1) Families of missing crew arriving at the scene. Eamonn Farrell Eamonn Farrell

Coast Guard helicopters are being assisted in their search by the Air Corps Casa, RNLI boats, the Naval Services’s LE Róisín, garda divers and local fishing vessels.

Jurgen Whyte from the Air Accident Investigation Unit said that two of his investigators have been on scene since yesterday. They are hoping that the two flight recorders from the helicopter will be located.

One of the recorders captured all voice and radio communications internally on the helicopter, while the other recorded the engine, the power from the engine, and details such as speeds and height.

“These are modern enough that we can, if we recover the recorder and if it is functioning correctly, we can hopefully reanalyse, actually, the flight and get the aircraft to ‘fly’ again digitally, and that will help investigators to determine what has happened in the final moments of the flight itself,” explained Whyte.

 

Aviation expert Gerry Byrne told Newstalk Breakfast:

“They may solve the mystery immediately or they may not because all they will do is tell you what the aircraft was doing … it will tell you what the aircraft was doing, what height it was flying at, what direction it was flying in, how fast it was going.

You can more or less fly the aircraft through its last few minutes … but it can only tell you what the aircraft was doing at the time it went down, it will not necessarily tell you why.

“There is a voice recorder, it can sometimes be a very useful tool for air crash investigators because while they didn’t have time to send out a mayday, the pilots may have said something to each other that will turn up on the voice recorder about a problem they may have been having.

In this particular case having seen the wreckage, it’s obvious that the helicopter came down pretty hard, hit the sea very hard. It possibly hit something else prior to that.

He added that speculation has arisen overnight about the possibility that there may have been a collision with Blackrock.

When asked if he’s suggesting the helicopter clipped the rock he said, “I really have no idea, the possibility has to be investigated because it was in the area.”

However, he added that the crew was very experienced and the machine was very well equipped with forward looking radar which would have signalled the approach of anything in the way.

LR crew search 758A1139_90505427 Emergency Services activity on the the pier at first light this morning. Eamonn Farrell Eamonn Farrell

Wreckage 

Two navy vessels kept searching through the night, while a survey vessel arrived on the scene early this morning.

At least six trawlers involved in the search have been transporting debris to the harbour in Blacksod.

Parts of the wreckage from the downed Coast Guard helicopter have also been brought to shore. The helicopter’s door is among the debris that’s been recovered.

The Director General of the HSE, Tony O’Brien, said, “This tragic event brings into sharp focus the great sacrifices that members of the Coast Guard make every day as they protect our citizens.

“On behalf of the HSE and in particular the National Ambulance Service, I wish to extend my deepest condolences to the family of Captain Dara Fitzpatrick. As the search continues for the remaining three crew of Rescue 116, our thoughts are with them and their families at this time.”

- Additional reporting Paul Hosford and Aoife Barry

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    Mar 15th 2017, 7:26 AM

    Please just bring them home. Awful tragedy

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    Mute Aidan Molyneux
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    Mar 15th 2017, 12:12 PM

    Unfortunately the sea doesn’t give up her victims too easily

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    Mar 15th 2017, 1:57 PM

    While I’m only guessing it seems to me with such an experienced crew in relatively good conditions with no land hazards that this was component failure. Went down, capt managed to evacuate herself but the others didn’t get out. Hence why the small debris area it went down largely intact. Terrible way to go. The state should not rest until they are all brought home and all given state funerals

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    Mar 15th 2017, 7:33 AM

    Again, amazing people who do an amazing job. Such a tragedy.

    Please bring them home.

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    Mar 15th 2017, 8:18 AM

    Such a tragedy. Rarely do we see such outpouring of grief, sadness and love for people we do not know.
    May they rest in peace.

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    Mar 15th 2017, 10:09 AM

    This constant search for the black box…

    There’s absolutely no reason why these devices can’t upload information in real time. It would save so much time, energy and money in the event of a disaster to immediately have the gps location and the last ten minutes.

    This technology is around now (it’s even in some cars which immediately send an sos alert giving gps and a controller dials into the car and can see live cam feed and instrument information). My watch will even dial my next of kin if it thinks I have a cardiac emergency.

    Absolutely no reason why it can’t be fitted and then we’d know exactly where hey are and what happened.

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    Mar 15th 2017, 12:16 PM

    @OU812: Not if you are out of cover

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    Mar 15th 2017, 3:44 PM

    @Paul Somers: GSM and Satellite modems would ensure 99.99% coverage. I wouldn’t say 100% as you just never know.

    Radio is also compatible of transmitting data.

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    Mar 15th 2017, 3:59 PM

    @Paul Somers: as Jim Buckley Barret said, a combination of GSM & Satellite (which is how the cars do it) guarantees coverage.

    I don’t mean it should be a total replacement for the traditional black box, but to run in parallel with it.

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    Mar 15th 2017, 4:18 PM

    @OU812: Good man! Go send your idea to all the aircraft manufacturers and aviation authorities – just in case they haven’t thought of it! But I would guess they have and have very valid reasons as to why your idea has yet to be implemented.

    “There’s absolutely no reason” you said……maybe you should expand on that.

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    Mar 15th 2017, 4:39 PM

    @Paul Furey: Costs most likely, the Malaysian Boeing that went missing is designed with such a “health system” that would constantly report back to Boeing but the Airlines wouldn’t pay for it.

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    Mar 15th 2017, 5:05 PM

    @Paul Furey: “maybe you should expand on that.”

    What’s to expand on. There’s absolutely no reason. And as for your other condescending comment, I realise it might be hard for you, but there’s serious stuff going on that affects real people. Try not to be a dick.

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    Mar 15th 2017, 8:41 AM

    The people of Ireland salute these heroes, the outpouring of sadness and loss by everyone is a testament to what they do for us. I hope they are found and brought back to their families, the nation shares your grief. The state should honor them.

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    Mar 15th 2017, 7:55 AM

    Just can’t get my head around this. None of it makes sense. Please bring them home.

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    Mar 15th 2017, 8:41 AM

    Praying that the missing crew are located today and returned home to their families.

    Thoughts to the families and all those continuing to search for their colleagues.

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    Mar 15th 2017, 10:27 AM

    its a very sad situation god bless them all,its unfortunate that the only way we get to know these peoples names is thru a tragedy they go about saving peoples lives with minimal fanfare and fuss and im sure for far less money than they deserve, rip

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    Mar 15th 2017, 11:40 AM

    Such a terrible loss of life. Selfless and thoughtless heroes who risk everything for our safety. Hopefully the sea will return them to their loved ones. A nation stands at their sides in support and honour of their fallen loved ones

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    Mar 15th 2017, 2:25 PM

    A request, in support and respect to R116 that went down yesterday. Can people please leave your porch lights on or any outside lights on for Shannon R115 to support and show them we’re lighting the way home for them during this time. Thank you xx

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    Mar 15th 2017, 10:42 AM

    Terrible loss of life. Hope the bodies are retrieved today so that the families can get some peace and put an end to the limbo they must be enduring. Candles lit, fingers crossed and thoughts focused on my behalf

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    Mar 15th 2017, 3:21 PM

    This was so sad. Hopefully Minister Shane Ross rushing to the scene will help.Sorry to be cynical but sometimes news of politicians rushing to the scene leaves me cold. I wish the families of the crew strength to cope. Everyone admires the brave people of the Coastguard and Lifeboat crews for what they do

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    Mar 15th 2017, 2:14 PM

    On one of these treads about this tragedy on Monday, there were a lot of thumbs down. I predicted they would be removed because they were not genuine. I am now proved right, there is no thumbs down facility now. It was the Journal manipulating the thumbs to back their left/green agenda and the computer kept doing it into this tread. They were caught out. They have banned several good contributors.

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    Mar 15th 2017, 9:48 AM

    An article in the iT today from an aviation expert states the 3 most regular reasons for helicopter crashes are catastrophic mechanical failures, pilot error (which he says in unlikely in such a highly trained crew), and a lack of fuel which he also says is unlikely.

    He then goes on to discuss the particular make and model of the aircraft and previous issues it has had in service to date. http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/why-helicopters-crash-fuel-pilot-error-and-mechanical-failure-1.3010682?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fireland%2Firish-news%2Fwhy-helicopters-crash-fuel-pilot-error-and-mechanical-failure-1.3010682

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    Mar 15th 2017, 9:58 AM

    @Mr Snuffleupagus: Sounds like an interesting article bu unfortunately the Irish Times is pay to read

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    Mar 15th 2017, 9:59 AM

    @Darren Tully: Use incognito mode and it’ll bypass the leaky paywall.

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    Mar 15th 2017, 4:13 PM

    What does Ross mean by saying It’s unspeakable what’s going on?? To me that sounds like he is alleging some kind of bad behaviour.Or are those the words of a minion who has exhausted all normal vicab???

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    Mar 15th 2017, 10:23 AM

    Absolutely terrible situtation for all involved… hope closure comes soon for the family’s. Helicopter was after leaving Dublin. Is it standard to refuel so soon after take off?

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    Mar 15th 2017, 3:47 PM

    Very tragic event for all those families and friends

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