Advertisement

We need your help now

Support from readers like you keeps The Journal open.

You are visiting us because we have something you value. Independent, unbiased news that tells the truth. Advertising revenue goes some way to support our mission, but this year it has not been enough.

If you've seen value in our reporting, please contribute what you can, so we can continue to produce accurate and meaningful journalism. For everyone who needs it.

Eamonn Farrell/RollingNews.ie

'We're gone': Final words of R116 crew released in preliminary report

The preliminary report recommends a review of “all route guides in use by its Search and Rescue helicopters in Ireland”.

THE PRELIMINARY REPORT into the final moments of Rescue 116 has been released this evening by the Air Accident Investigation Unit Ireland.

Coast Guard helicopter Rescue 116 disappeared off the north coast of Mayo after providing communications cover for a medical rescue in March of this year.

The report finds that the Rescue 116 hit Black Rock island, where some of the helicopter debris was found.

It also found that the island wasn’t registered on the crew’s internal mapping system:

In relation to Black Rock and its Lighthouse, the EGPWS manufacturer informed the Investigation that “The lighthouse obstacle is not in the obstacle database and the terrain of the island is not in our terrain database.”

“The Rescue 116 recording contains no reference by the crew to the presence of a lighthouse or terrain at Black Rock during their briefing for APBSS.”

A rear crew member of Rescue 116 identified an island approximately 13 seconds prior to the initial impact with terrain, according to the report.

Although the report states at the start that it “does not contain analysis or conclusions”, it does make two ‘interim recommendations’ based on its findings:

CHC Ireland should review/re-evaluate all route guides in use by its Search and Rescue helicopters in Ireland, with a view to enhancing the information provided on obstacle heights and positions, terrain clearance, vertical profile, the positions of waypoints in relation to obstacles and EGPWS database terrain and obstacle limitations.

It also said RFD Beaufort Ltd should “review the viability of the installation provisions and instructions for locator beacons on Mk 44 lifejackets”.

Coastguard Helicopter Wreckage Found Blackrock island and lighthouse. Eamonn Farrell / RollingNews.ie Eamonn Farrell / RollingNews.ie / RollingNews.ie

Black box voice recorder

The last moments recorded by the black box recorder listed in the report were:

Rear Crew Channel: “K… looking at an island just in, directly ahead of us now guys, you want to come right [Commander’s Name]”

Commander: “OK, come right just confirm?”

Rear Crew Channel: “About… twenty degrees right yeah.”

Commander: “OK Come Right… select heading.”

Co-pilot: “Roger… Heading selected.”

Rear Crew Channel: “Come right now. come right. COME RIGHT.”

Smoke in baggage.

Co-pilot: “[Expletive] OOOHHHH [Expletive].”

Co-pilot “We’re gone.”

The helicopter

Captain Dara Fitzpatrick Sam Boal / RollingsNews.ie Sam Boal / RollingsNews.ie / RollingsNews.ie

The report says that the helicopter “rapidly pitched nose up” during the two seconds prior to the initial impact.

Following the initial impact, the data indicates that the helicopter climbed while experiencing large changes in pitch, roll and yaw angles.

The report lists the timeline of events through referencing the Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR or black box), the log of what controls were used or triggered during the flight, and external evidence such as mapping systems, weather reports and flight safety features.

Among a list of bullet pointed events that lead to the impact, the report says that the crew were “mission-focused and considered” with minimal extraneous conversation.

It also says that both the pilot and co-pilot had commented that it had been a while since either of them had been to Blacksod.

The pilot briefed the crew on the plan for arrival at the lighthouse.

Wreckage

LR SEARCH SCENES 6135_90505581 (1) Eamonn Farrell / RollingNews.ie Eamonn Farrell / RollingNews.ie / RollingNews.ie

Debris from the helicopter was found on Black Rock Island, the report found:

The horizontal stabiliser was found on the rock, adjacent to an outhouse which was close to the lighthouse. Tiles on the roof of the outhouse exhibited damage, consistent with being struck by falling debris.
Fractured sections of the Intermediate Gear Box (IGB) centre housing, including the oil level sensor and a portion of the chip detector, as well as the IGB fairing which was broken into four distinct pieces, were found on the rock.

Among the items found on the seabed were:

The cabin floor/lower fuselage had separated from the lower fuselage aft of the nose landing gear area and was lying forward of its normal location.
The right hand Main Landing Gear and its sponson had separated from the fuselage. The assembly was found on the sea bed adjacent to the main wreckage.
The winch operator’s control console was lying close to the cabin floor section.

The Sikorsky S-92A helicopter’s safety features and mechanics are listed (which includes emergency exits and flotation devices).

It found that all four lighthouses in the area “were operational over the period of interest” (Eagle Island, Blacksod, Black Rock and Achillbeg).

According to Met Éireann, visibility was 2-3km and weather that evening for “all Irish coastal waters and the Irish Sea contained occasional light rain or drizzle and patchy mist and fog.”

Investigators say that the final report will be published in due course.

The investigation will consider a number of factors including organisation and management of the mission, the operator’s procedures and guidance, helicopter systems, navigation, mapping and charting, human performance, aircraft performance, survival aspects, ergonomics, oversight, risk management and a deeper analysis of the recorded data and recovered wreckage.

The Air Accident Investigations Unit’s preliminary report on the incident is available to read in full here.

Read: Wreckage of Rescue 116 brought ashore

Read: Massive search fails to find Rescue 116 crewmen

Readers like you are keeping these stories free for everyone...
A mix of advertising and supporting contributions helps keep paywalls away from valuable information like this article. Over 5,000 readers like you have already stepped up and support us with a monthly payment or a once-off donation.

Close
196 Comments
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute jo mixon
    Favourite jo mixon
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 8:08 AM

    Surely the question of how these overpayments were made in the first instance is the one that requires a fast answer. I’m not naive enough to think that any incompetent individuals who are employed within the public service will be taken to task over this diabolical waste of taxpayers money, however at least try and get the system in place to accept responsibility.

    742
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Emachine
    Favourite Emachine
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 8:13 AM

    @jo mixon: if you don’t sign off straight away once you take up a job you can still collect your payment, I’ve known people to do it to get them over working a back week. You are then sent a bill but it’s never chased up, they figure they’ll get it next time you sign on. I’m sure there are other ways, that’s the only one I’m familiar with.

    185
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Vic's Burd
    Favourite Vic's Burd
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 8:50 AM

    @jo mixon: that’s not how it works. When one applies for a welfare payment you are expected to claim in good faith – handing over all details as you claim.

    There’s cases of people not declaring savings/investments which put them in excess of €20,000/50,000 rule sitting in other accounts…

    There’s cases where someone was awarded compensation from an accident-declaring this means your social welfare is reduced until the compensation is spent or drops below a certain amount etc.

    Then there’s people claiming and working for cash… or have different identities with different PPS numbers. The whole PSC card system is designed to stop the latter.

    163
    See 8 more replies ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute In my opinion
    Favourite In my opinion
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 9:59 AM

    @Emachine: or if your signing dockets ( casual ) some people work 7 days and claim for the lot also I knew a few guys who were at that coming out with a full weeks wages plus dole. The job was delivering newspapers 5am to 10am 7 days then some of them would head off and do nixers building etc for cash 2 jobs plus the dole.

    32
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Darren Norris
    Favourite Darren Norris
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 10:55 AM

    @In my opinion: They should be black listed from any welfare of any kind
    (social housing, state pension, health impacts) as a result of doing things like this

    55
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Vic's Burd
    Favourite Vic's Burd
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 11:02 AM

    @Darren Norris: they get reduced welfare until the overpayments are cleared.

    I wouldn’t exclude them altogether as they may be left destitute eg an OAP who ‘forgot’ to declare he was left a second property valued at €60,000 and currently unable to sell it…

    15
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute GClare
    Favourite GClare
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 12:58 PM

    @Emachine: declaring you are working (temping) while on lone parent, this payment will be reduced depending on how much you earn, the welfare office saying we will work it out at a later stage.

    8
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Dave Hammond
    Favourite Dave Hammond
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 1:25 PM

    @Emachine: this is 475 million quid , you would need over 2 million people claiming a week over payment for that to be the case – these numbers don’t add up , thats a HUGE amount of over payment , they have a LOT more accountability to answer for and work to do to eradicate this level of fraud , of course they should pursue with vigour , but we are all paying for this and it is just unacceptable in this day and age that the expensive card systems and expense of the Civil service itself is so wasteful and unaccountable – almost half a billion quid ??? There should be more outrage and people answerable to why this is so high in this day and age.

    29
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Dave Hammond
    Favourite Dave Hammond
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 1:31 PM

    @Vic’s Burd: yeah , but thats almost a half a billion owed I am sure we can take account of the odd exceptional OAP and still overhaul this system – this should be an OUTRAGE that our money is being wasted scammed and inefficiently used to keep pens pushers as busy fools and enabling easy scamming of the system…..hard working people paying high taxes and trying to make ends meet are constantly being taken for a ride in this country – the PC nonsense will have to shift and bit more harsh reality /criticism and holding people to account is badly needed

    19
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Ruaidhri Leslie
    Favourite Ruaidhri Leslie
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 7:15 PM

    @Vic’s Burd: sure couldn’t he come to an agreement with the state to transfer the 2nd property to the state pay him the difference them use the property for social housing. If they have over claimed there should be more than just a reduced payment as a deterrent

    1
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Eric Davies
    Favourite Eric Davies
    Report
    Dec 31st 2018, 10:45 AM

    @Dave Hammond: have they taken into account the fraud from with in the department itself , early in 2018 there was a case of 2 sw officers (in the dept of sw head office in sligo i think) caught with over 250,000 in bank accounts under false names, they had made up sw accounts in the names of non existent and deceased claimants and had the money paid directly into bank accounts they had opened in those names -easily done when you have access to other peoples identities and documents – at the time it was said that there could be over 1000 other such false claims been made across the country by sw staff .

    1
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Willy Mc Caul
    Favourite Willy Mc Caul
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 8:08 AM

    How much have politicians had written off with no chance of recovery for tax payer ?

    372
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Milk The Drones
    Favourite Milk The Drones
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 8:50 AM

    @Willy Mc Caul:
    Sure didn’t the minister for looking surprised herself sting the revenue for six figures.

    260
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Darren Norris
    Favourite Darren Norris
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 10:57 AM

    @Willy Mc Caul: The story is about half a billion getting stolen from the people of the state

    78
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Adrian
    Favourite Adrian
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 8:38 AM

    And the taxpayer is owed billions more in overpayments to politicians.

    281
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute George Salter
    Favourite George Salter
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 9:39 AM

    @Adrian: How do you figure that, exactly?

    63
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Dave Thomas
    Favourite Dave Thomas
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 10:16 AM

    @George Salter: because they are paid far too much for the crap job they do!

    146
    See 3 more replies ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute George Salter
    Favourite George Salter
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 10:19 AM

    @Dave Thomas: Still…billions? Thats a couple of thousand politicians being overpaid by a couple of million each. Unlikely

    33
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Darren Norris
    Favourite Darren Norris
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 10:58 AM

    @Dave Thomas: No different to lots of other departments roles in the public sector…. should they all hand back pay cheques and bloated pensions that unions forced the country to pay for?

    22
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Padraig Bateman
    Favourite Padraig Bateman
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 1:34 PM

    @Dave Thomas: Apply for the job then Davey

    5
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Bluey
    Favourite Bluey
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 10:09 AM

    Why don’t travellers have to work for a living? Genuine question. I’ve always wondered.
    Would employers not give them a chance?
    Do they have to go through Tus and seetec programs ?

    135
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Emachine
    Favourite Emachine
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 8:09 AM

    If anyone should be capable of recovering debt it’s the government, they make the rules after all and have access to almost every piece of information regarding someone’s finances. Half a billion quid is no joke.

    133
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Vic's Burd
    Favourite Vic's Burd
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 9:03 AM

    @Emachine: no they don’t; and with GDPR it’s even more harder to get access to anyone’s information.

    It’s up to you to declare your income, provide bank details and show you fall into the entitlement criterion,

    People get caught during reviews: transfers to/from another account; compensation recipients; caught working or reported as fraudulently claiming.

    47
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Emachine
    Favourite Emachine
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 1:38 PM

    @Vic’s Burd: given it is responsible for running welfare, pension and tax systems, including revenue, it has an enormous amount of data on the finances of every single one of us. I would hope all these services are allowed share data for the purposes of investigation, GDPR be damned. If they cannot, it’s no wonder the figure is so high.

    6
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Marc Power
    Favourite Marc Power
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 9:23 AM

    Meanwhile apple owes the country 13 billion and sox is not bothered

    138
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute ParSim
    Favourite ParSim
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 10:49 AM

    @Marc Power: That has been paid in full.

    37
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Darren Norris
    Favourite Darren Norris
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 11:01 AM

    @Marc Power: They paid up, and followed the correct rules of the time. This is half a billion people are stealing off everyone else in essence.

    51
    See 2 more replies ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Unitedpeople
    Favourite Unitedpeople
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 11:51 AM

    @Marc Power:

    That’s currently in bank limbo – in a account waiting for the outcome – as FG burn through €600,000+ in legal fees (public money) so that they can give it BACK to Apple. You couldn’t make this stuff up.

    33
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute The Wicklow Wolf
    Favourite The Wicklow Wolf
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 8:31 PM
    3
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Adrian
    Favourite Adrian
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 9:00 AM

    When the culture in our politicians is grab as much as you can get as opposed to take what you deserve, that spreads down to society as well. There is a big gap between what our politicians are getting/taking and what they deserve. I guess the people on sw are just doing the same, grabbing as opposed to taking. Politicians and sw people are very similar in many ways, both have job suitability problems and both are massive liabilities to the state.

    131
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Darren Norris
    Favourite Darren Norris
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 11:00 AM

    @Adrian: Will you still type the same BS even in the unlikely event that some leftie or SF party get elected?

    You do relaise that wages in general and for 1 tiny group is a tiny fraction of the costs Ireland pays out?

    14
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Aine O Connor
    Favourite Aine O Connor
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 9:51 AM

    What it does not say is how much people are owed in underpayments. . Might even balance up.

    85
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Eric Davies
    Favourite Eric Davies
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 11:06 AM

    some of these ‘overpayments ‘ are actually mistakes made by staff at sw — cases where people have died and welfare has been informed – but the payments have continued even though they have not been collected — this happened with my friends uncle – he died in october 2017 and his state pension was still being paid into the post office into may 2018 — all the correct forms had been sent in and the post office manager had informed the sw that the man was deceased and that the payments should cease as well – but they kept on paying . obviously all the money was eventually returned to sw (it never really left them as it was never cashed) but you can bet your boots that cases like that will be included in this report …once again the blame is being put onto those in receipt of welfare -not those who are issuing it !

    66
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Unitedpeople
    Favourite Unitedpeople
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 11:11 AM

    The state is apparently owed €13+ Billion in Apple tax. We don’t hear FG shouting about that do we or the billions being exported out of Ireland for PESCO (EU ARMY). FG is actually burning through €600k+ to legal oppose what is owed back. More double-standards.

    It’s also more distraction antics by FG. Look this way while we are quietly up to no good again, in another direction.

    53
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute IRL77
    Favourite IRL77
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 12:21 PM

    @Unitedpeople: another shinnerbot in operation i see here.

    15
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute The Wicklow Wolf
    Favourite The Wicklow Wolf
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 3:03 PM
    4
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Damien O'Cáthail
    Favourite Damien O'Cáthail
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 8:51 AM

    Sur what do you expect when it’s thrown out Willy nilly

    75
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Marc Power
    Favourite Marc Power
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 9:22 AM

    @Damien O’Cáthail: what an ill informed comment. You’ve obviously never had to navigate the dehumanizing applications system here?

    120
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Aisling
    Favourite Aisling
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 9:46 AM

    @Damien O’Cáthail: it most certainly is not. You have obviously been fortunate enough in your life to never require assistance. It’s demeaning and makes you feel awful

    103
    See 5 more replies ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Darren moore
    Favourite Darren moore
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 10:52 AM

    @Marc Power: what are you talking about !!!! It’s over payment not actual payments . That’s half a billion that people were paid hat they were not entitled to .

    11
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Darren moore
    Favourite Darren moore
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 10:54 AM

    @Aisling: what ??? This is over payment . So this is half a billion in tax payers money that could be used to help those in need of who need assistance . Read the bloody article .

    10
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Darren Norris
    Favourite Darren Norris
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 11:03 AM

    @Marc Power: Life is not easy, making it easy as it is now is clearly the issue and it needs to be addressed

    Lots of other things like this overspend in hospital etc do also, but in each area like this it needs to be stopped asap.

    People want to help the homeless…this half a billion could go some way to that, but the selfish are stealing it.

    8
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Lobert Rester
    Favourite Lobert Rester
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 1:50 PM

    @Darren Norris: so could the money spent on the e vote machines, the 1.4 billion for the children’s hospital the most expensive hospital in the world, the event centre in cork which required the government to cough up a few more million to their contractor buddies, the set up of the billing company Irish water, lets just let those few examples set in as opposed to the chump change spent in over payments by the social welfare.

    13
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Marc Power
    Favourite Marc Power
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 3:16 PM

    @Darren Norris: so could the 13 billion sitting in limbo in a bank account from apple. Where’s your faux outrage about that vast sum and probably many vast sums from other crooked companies? Or is your venom reserved for the poor or those on benefits?

    6
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Ali Cummins
    Favourite Ali Cummins
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 12:31 PM

    What about Revenues underpayments? I’m back to work almost 3 months and still waiting on illness benefit that got approved in July.

    30
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Irish big fellow
    Favourite Irish big fellow
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 11:30 AM

    SW should be ashamed of itself. The Live Register is shrinking to around 5% but their staff still manage to pay out nilly Willy with no questions asked. Also they have converted 1000’s of those signing on for unemployment benefits to disability payments so to make the Live Register look respectable.
    Regina needs to concentrate on her job
    To make sure that taxpayers are not being fleeced.

    36
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute IRL77
    Favourite IRL77
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 12:25 PM

    @Irish big fellow: you just have to accept that about 5% of this country are wasters and don’t want to work and will do everything to scam etc money out of the state. We even have an ethnic culture here who job is to do just that. The is only one solution to the problem and that is to round them all up and then see what happens.

    31
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Gary Kearney
    Favourite Gary Kearney
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 1:35 PM

    @IRL77: You were doing well until the round them all up bit.

    15
    See 2 more replies ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Marc Power
    Favourite Marc Power
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 3:18 PM

    @IRL77: nasty how you look at those unfortunate enough to claiming benefits. You must get dizzy looking down on people from your lofty tower

    6
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Disabled Junkie
    Favourite Disabled Junkie
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 4:22 PM

    @IRL77: Is that your final solution?

    4
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute iohanx
    Favourite iohanx
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 11:25 AM

    It’s a pity the Journal cannot break down numbers but rather print the headline. Look to the averages that are owed and it tells a different picture. Plus outline the pitfalls that can lead to overpayments, then perhaps offer some suggestions on how our public service systems of SW payments can be improved using latest technologies. Perhaps.

    28
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Dominic Leleu
    Favourite Dominic Leleu
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 10:41 AM

    Peanuts compared to everything we pay to politicians and councils…
    I love the logic : let’s ask the money to people who have none and if they can’t pay let’s fine them. And how that will cost to recover case by case ?
    Failed again !

    28
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Darren Norris
    Favourite Darren Norris
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 11:04 AM

    @Dominic Leleu: Half a billion is peanuts to you? Well for some, but it is thieft

    22
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Kath Noonan
    Favourite Kath Noonan
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 12:03 PM

    The vast majority claim because their low income only scrapes the bottom of the barrel. Which should be allowed. Cost of living is above minimum wage in this country.

    20
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute John McG
    Favourite John McG
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 8:55 AM

    The Whataboutery in this comments tread is ridiculous !

    50
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Quentin Moriarty
    Favourite Quentin Moriarty
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 9:12 AM

    They will be paid back tomorrow.
    Arf arf arf

    11
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Darren moore
    Favourite Darren moore
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 10:31 AM

    Let’s see everyone marching on the streets over this ! Half a billion is a f#@-+! Joke .

    25
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Richard Day
    Favourite Richard Day
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 12:14 PM

    Pittance compared to tax…….

    7
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Nigel o'Neill
    Favourite Nigel o'Neill
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 7:00 PM

    And how much does the state owe to the public through unclaimed overpayment of PAYE!??

    5
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Seán Marlow
    Favourite Seán Marlow
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 9:16 PM

    It’s owed a lot, lot more by one very rich company alone but is wasting millions in failing to collect it!

    4
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute MAJOR PAIN
    Favourite MAJOR PAIN
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 1:59 PM

    I swear il throw a 10r a week back

    4
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute The Wicklow Wolf
    Favourite The Wicklow Wolf
    Report
    Dec 29th 2018, 3:03 PM

    Just going to leave this here

    1
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Margaret Kane
    Favourite Margaret Kane
    Report
    Dec 30th 2018, 11:25 AM

    I wonder when TDs overspend on there expenses do they have to pay it back

    1
Submit a report
Please help us understand how this comment violates our community guidelines.
Thank you for the feedback
Your feedback has been sent to our team for review.