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A missile is displayed on a truck with an anti-Israeli banner which reads in Persian" Death to Israel", while Iranian armed forces commanders review an army parade next to a portrait of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Vahid Salemi

'Iran has the potential to take the world with it' - America isn't happy with nuclear deal

“The Trump administration has no intention of passing the buck to a future administration on Iran.”

US SECRETARY OF State Rex Tillerson declared the Iran nuclear deal a failure last night but left open the possibility the Trump administration will uphold it nonetheless.

The top American diplomat sought to reinforce the notion that the US is aggressively countering Iran’s destabilising behaviour throughout the Middle East, even though President Donald Trump so far has not pulled out of the deal. Tillerson spoke a day after certifying to Congress that Iran is complying with its obligations under the 2015 deal, a requirement for Tehran to continue receiving relief from nuclear sanctions.

“The JCPOA fails to achieve the objective of a non-nuclear Iran,” Tillerson said, using an acronym for the 2015 nuclear deal. “It only delays their goal of becoming a nuclear state.”

He said the deal, brokered by former President Barack Obama’s administration along with other world powers, represented the “same failed approach” the US has taken to North Korea.

Like with the North, Tillerson said, the Trump administration was unwilling to be patient with Iran, ticking through a list of countries where he said Iran was supporting terrorism and violence.

Tillerson’s hastily arranged statement before cameras at the State Department reflected the competing forces pulling at the Trump administration as it develops its policy toward Iran. On the one hand, Trump wants to show he’s being tougher than Obama toward Iran, but on the other hand, he’s not yet ready to rip up the deal.

“On notice”

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Trump as a candidate vowed to discard or renegotiate the pact, and shortly after taking office his administration put Tehran “on notice” that its troublesome behaviour would no longer be tolerated. But neither Iran nor the other world powers that negotiated the agreement have any interest in re-opening the deal, and US companies stand to lose billions if the deal is scuttled.

Proponents of the deal have long acknowledged it doesn’t address concerns about Iran’s non-nuclear behavior, such as its ballistic missile program or support for Houthi rebels in Yemen. Obama and others argued it was narrowly tailored to take the most dangerous prospect — a nuclear-armed Iran — off the table.

The deal’s critics, though, say it fails to achieve even that goal because key restrictions on Iran’s nuclear development sunset after a decade or more. With some of those critics now in office, Tillerson’s comments marked the first time that position has been echoed by the US government.

Still, since taking office, Trump has stopped promising he’ll gut the deal. Tillerson said that decision will be made as part of a governmentwide review of Iran policy currently under way.

“The Trump administration has no intention of passing the buck to a future administration on Iran,” Tillerson said.

In an ominous warning, Tillerson linked Iran’s behaviour to that of North Korea and said that with both countries, the US would no longer engage in “strategic patience.” The US has been exploring ways to address the threat of North Korea’s nuclear program, which is significantly farther along than Iran’s.

“An unchecked Iran has the potential to travel the same path as North Korea — and to take the world along with it,” Tillerson said.

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    Mute Teresa O'Halloran
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    Jul 22nd 2021, 8:21 AM

    We are so lucky to be living in Ireland, a country with such a successful vaccination rollout. So many other countries like Australia and New Zealand have an appallingly slow vaccination rollout, not to mention parts of Africa and South America. While the Prime Minister of New Zealand, Jacinda Ardern, did such a good job of keeping her country virtually Covid free, her rollout of the vaccination programme has been incredibly slow.

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    Mute The Guru
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    Jul 22nd 2021, 8:37 AM

    @Teresa O’Halloran: 915 deaths in Australia from COVID, all the while living mostly normal lives with a few lockdowns, none of which were as long as Ireland. Ireland has had 5,026 deaths which could be more due to the hack and has had restrictions for most of the last 18 months. So how is Ireland the lucky one!?

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 8:55 AM

    @Teresa O’Halloran: your population is a fraction of the countries you mentioned in your comment. You’re 6 months into your vaccination program with less than half the country vaccinated. What’s so successful about it?

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    Mute Mac Muinteoir
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    Jul 22nd 2021, 8:55 AM

    @Teresa O’Halloran: you’re right, in a way, to recognise the fact that dumb luck has been a major factor in terms of availability of vaccines in different countries. I’m not sure the thousands of families in Ireland that have lost people to covid feel all that lucky though.

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 9:53 AM

    @The Guru: you actually believe that those figures are going to remain that low? They are on square 1, where we were back in March 2020, no natural immunity, no vaccines. It’s a lovely green field site for this virus. Lockdowns after lockdowns inbound until they get those vaccines out. Zero Covid is not possible.

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 10:34 AM

    @Teresa O’Halloran: yeah poor New Zealand having their close to normal life for almost all of 2020 and a good chunk of 2021, while also having way less deaths than us.

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 10:36 AM

    @GrumpyAulFella: even if they are whwre we were at March 2020 will they have what will end up being 18 months of mostly strict restrictions? I doubt it. They got to live an almost normal life while we were shut. Once vaccination picks up they will start reopening and have had far shorter lockdowns than us with way less deaths. I’d have preferred to have their lives than our since last year

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 10:38 AM

    @Aidan O’ Neill: yeah but it’s like Alcatraz

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 10:44 AM

    @Aidan O’ Neill: yes great fun being stuck in Van Diemen’s land. Now they face thousands of deaths and months of rolling lockdowns if they don’t get this under control. Apart from being barred from dining indoors in 27 degree heat we’re free to do what we want, we’re largely vaccinated, our health system is reasonably well insulated, we can travel. I’d take our position any day right now over what’s happening there. They’ve tried to create an Alcatraz and keep the virus out. They’ve failed.

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 10:54 AM

    @Teresa O’Halloran: We can thank the European Union for any success.

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 11:23 AM

    @GrumpyAulFella: absolute nonsense. Their zero covid policy is what has kept lockdowns to a minimum. The largest outbreak is in Sydney because they waited too long. Melbourne will be out within 2 weeks. Saying they’ve no vaccines is also wrong. They have done 13% fully and 20% one dose and are doing over a million a week. In reality they’re about 2 months behind Ireland.

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 11:26 AM

    @The Guru: the Australians latest wave will be very difficult to suppress this time and lockdowns will be less and less effective. The numbers of anti vaxxers/ vaccine hesitant is very high as well
    Expect big numbers of cases and deaths in the mostly unvaccinated population

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 12:31 PM

    @Aidan O’ Neill: they paid the price of imprisonment.. no one in.. nobody out..

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 12:35 PM

    @Aidan O’ Neill: it’s like a delayed pandemic there now..
    Australians in general weren’t getting the news updates from Europe or USA when we were in the middle of our mayhem and now they are surprised at the recent surges. They were made to believe they were safe.. but Delta had other plans….
    It’s kicking off now… delta is on a roll even with lockdown. No vaccines, mass confusions, a society who don’t necessarily adhere to the very strictly implemented restrictions.

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 12:37 PM

    @GrumpyAulFella: absolutely… A pandemic makes no exception!

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 12:42 PM

    @Dave Harris: how do we measure the number of anti-vaxxers / vaccine hesitant before the roll-out is even complete?

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 12:55 PM

    @Aidan O’ Neill: I’m talking about their vaccination programme being so slow that my brother who is in his 60s thinks he won’t be vaccinated until close to the end of the year. New Zealand is locked down to foreign travel in or out apart from the bubble they had with Australia which is now closed. My brother is waiting to meet his youngest grandchild born in Australia just before the pandemic.

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    Mute Quoka
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    Jul 22nd 2021, 1:20 PM

    @Dave McHugh: The big problem for Aus & NZ is that it has categorically been proven that zero covid lockdown strategies don’t work – they’re good at suppressing the virus but not ending a pandemic. The vaccines, while really good, are not perfect. So now they have a situation that means that once everyone’s vaccinated and they do open up, the virus will spread through the population, albeit a vaccinated one. BUT people are still going to die. At much lower rates – but it will happen.
    Take a rate of 0.25% death among vaccinated people over 40 and account for 10m Australians being over 40 and that’s 25,000 deaths – or 25x the total deaths under zero covid – hard lockdown – strategy. In NZ the figure given same would be roughly 5,000 deaths. There’s no escaping this.

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 1:23 PM

    @Quoka: The politicians there know this and I would guess always knew it – they were hoping for a therapeutic rather than a vaccine. Now which of them is going to vaccinate to the point where they have to stop yoyoing lockdowns because “everyone’s vaccinated” and open up knowing that more people will die when this happens than ever did during their first approach. It’s a sword none of them want to fall on.

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 1:25 PM

    @Quoka: They’re both stalling – ScoMo and Ardern.

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 10:43 PM

    @Teresa O’Halloran: I agree. There was a segment on covid in Africa, specifically Zambia, on the channel 4 news tonight. It’s absolutely bleak and they are begging for vaccines. We are so privileged to live in a first world country and be part of the EU vaccine procurement

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    Jul 23rd 2021, 12:47 AM

    @Quoka: so according to your 0.25% death rate, one in every 400 vaccinated people will still contract, and die from, covid.
    Where did you get this stat from?

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    Jul 23rd 2021, 3:46 AM

    @GrumpyAulFella: no it’s not

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    Jul 23rd 2021, 8:06 AM

    @Dave McHugh: Recorded case fatality rate in Australia x the average of the reported AstraZeneca and Pfizer protection rates. The fact that the virus hasn’t already swathed through populations there already, particularly 65+ and those with underlying conditions, means it would likely be higher.

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    Jul 23rd 2021, 9:31 AM

    @Quoka: I know how to do the maths, I’m curious to know where you’re getting the reported protection rate from?

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 7:14 AM

    Aussies too cool and superior to be vaccinated no? !

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 10:58 AM

    @Ronan O Connor: too complacent in NSW as virus didnt impact until Delta appeared. Then there was/is a rush for Pfeizer. Astra plentiful but reluctance to take up due to clotting issue.

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 7:23 AM

    Yes they made a balls of the vaccine programme by mainly ordering Astra but that’s easy to say in hindsight. The article says they won’t get much Pfizer before the end of the year which is not correct as they’re already doing over 1m a week and it’s ramping up even more. They’ll be in the same position as the rest of the world by Oct/Nov.

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 12:41 PM

    @The Guru: Unfortunately it depends where in Australia you are.. if in Western Australia you’ll get Pfeizer, but not in NSW where Astra is abundant.
    The aged and at risk haven’t been looked after..in most states. The federal government has only so- much say in how the rollout happens even with a Vaccination Commander!

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 1:37 PM

    @The Guru: No, they won’t. Politically, it’ll be a circus. Vaccination wise perhaps, but the citizenry was sold a zero covid strategy that included quick and hard lockdowns that are effective at suppressing the virus but not ending a pandemic. And it worked really well. The people bought in. But it’s nothing but a stall & damage limitation exercise when it comes to exiting the pandemic. The problem now is when the population is vaccinated & no one will want to lockdown, the virus will still be there spreading & it will kill people – at greatly reduced rates, but also at multiples of their original zero covid policy. So the politician that reopens up is going to fall on a big sword doing so as the death figures will far surpass what they’ve experienced to date. ScoMo & Ardern know this.

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 12:16 PM

    The Australian government pit all their eggs in the one basket, namely the development of their own vaccine- CSL and this failed leaving the population without sufficient vaccines. Prior to the CSL failing, the government didn’t see the need to order Pfeizer/Moderna as they believed Australia to be safe with closed borders, excellent contact tracing, etc.. The Delta varient, unfortunately for all Aussies is now catching up on lost cases even in lockdown.
    Add to this, nobody wants to take the Astra as the press are still pushing the ‘fear’ button and have created a state of confusion and panic..

    To read more about failed vaccine
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-55269381

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 10:56 AM

    We’d be in that position if not for the EU.

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    Jul 22nd 2021, 12:00 PM

    @Tomo: we are part of the EU, it’s not some mystical entity handing out baubles to the unfortunate. It’s a collective, of which we we are an equal member

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