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DO YOU THINK it’s ok to boo a speaker at an event? And does it make a difference if that person is a world leader’s daughter?
While attending a women’s summit in Germany yesterday, US President Donald Trump’s daughter Ivanka was booed at after praising him as an advocate for women and families during a discussion on paid maternity leave.
“That is something I’m very proud of my father’s advocacy, long before he came into the presidency, he championed this in the primaries. He’s been a tremendous champion of supporting families and enabling them to thrive,” she said.
So we’re asking: Do you think it’s acceptable that Ivanka Trump was booed at?
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If she’s happy use the Trump brand to her advantage in business she has to accept the negativity surrendered by his behavior.
@Alan Rooney: Successful people get used to jealousy. Some people avoid becoming successful as they fear the negative thoughts of their lazy friends. A lot of poverty can be blamed on fear of resentment and is why poverty greatly runs in clans and communities.
@Tom Molloy: so let me get this straight a lot of poverty is caused by fear of resentment of becoming successfully and not due social and economic situations? Seriously have to disagree on that one. Plus I don’t see how you comment is really relevant to my post given the fact I have no resentment of anyone using whatever advantage available to becoming successful. I was merely making the point that if one of the advantages she chose to use comes with it’s own negativity she should have to deal with it along with the success it brought.
@Alan Rooney: The fear of standing out from friends and family by being successful is a negative social pressure with negative economic consequences similarly being concerned with failing/passing the income means tests has negative social confining consequences.
@Tom Molloy: Have you any evidence to back this opinion up? From my reading, social and economic situations have an enormous effect on the level of financial success you achieve.
@Tom Molloy: Trump isn’t a success though? His daddy made money through corruption – and Trump inherited $200 million from him. Forbes calculated that he should be worth $12 Billion (if he had left that money in a Trust which got average stock market returns since 1980′s) but by all accounts Trump is worth $3 Billion, he hasn’t paid taxes since 1990′s and his companies have gone bankrupt 6 times!
@Tom Molloy: I have to laugh, some serious nutters out there and you may be one of them. Trump inherited, Ivanka benefitted and now they are abusing their positions.
@Peter O’ Neill: what difference does any of this really make, people get so excited about things and form such strong opinions about people they know very little about and what they do know they more than likely got from an untrustworthy or propagandist news source.
its quite simple, all of those women should have been boo’d, they are not trying to do anything for ordinary women and don’t be fooled, up on that stage was a load of female 1%ers and all they were doing was welcoming publicly the trump girl to the club, if you think for a second it was anything to do with empowering women or feminist action then your sadly naive. and as long as they are kept in the positions that they are then ordinary women and men will have nothing and i exclude the trump daughter from this.
@Alan Rooney: It is you not I who have used the “….and not due to social and economic circumstances” Helping clans and communities move out of multi-generational poverty in an advanced society is more about changing self limiting attitudes than in underdeveloped third world countries.
@Tom Molloy: She said what she said while her father intends to remove all funding from the Office of Global Womens’ Issues.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-budget-2018-state-department-cut-office-global-womens-issues-oxfam-ivanka-a7701631.html
So, yes, she deserves the boos.
@Tony Canning: And the hits keep coming!
@Alan Rooney:
BOO!
@Ed Magnier: If what you say is correct, that Tom Molloy’s words are opinion, then he doesn’t need evidence to back it up as opinions are not based on fact.
Considering the heckling and rantings of ‘Jail the witch ‘ that Hilary Clinton got, from Ivana’s father’s supporters during the election campaign, then I’d say the booing , which was quite mild by all accounts , was her being let off lightly.
I think Angela Merkel should have got a mild booing too, for having invited Ivana to speak at this event. And for inviting unelected Monarchs to speak at it. What message is that giving to women, ‘ marry a prince or have a rich family and you too can achieve your potential. ‘ Hardly inspirational stuff.
@Joan Ryan: She should be booed for what people who like her Father do? Riiiiigghht.
@funkytown: If only all the savages did was “feel”…!
@Clever Jake: ah,where in my comment did you see me defending trump? I was merely pointing out that Merkel should have been booed as well.
@Plus Prom: she mentioned her father as an advocate for women’s rights at a women’s summit!?!?
Since the man is a pig, what did she think was going to happen?
@Joan Ryan:
BOO!
Poll doesn’t work. But my answer is yes. If she’s going to talk sh*te she can expect the relevant response.
@Ciara Baines: what was she doing there in the first place, the only reason in she is Donald Trumps daughter, there are multitudes of women who would be ahead of her, this is nepotism of the worst type, in reality she shows that the conference is bulshit in the first place.
@ktsiwot: Well said. What would anyone expect her to contribute? It’s celebrity politics
@ktsiwot: She was there as a means of softening Trump’s stance against Europe. It was simply appealing to Trump’s vanity which I don’t think we should be engaged in.
@vNblxOSQ:
“Well said. What would anyone expect her to contribute? It’s celebrity politics”
So the fact that she runs a successful business has nothing to do with it? One which is almost exclusively staffed by women if I might add.
@Jason Culligan: Paid for by her father; illegally plugged by White House staff and if she’s personally designed so much as a sanitary towel I will eat my hat.
@Jason Culligan commented: Well had a little discussion about this last night. I’ll state one more time that employing women & paying them a pittance is not empowering them. Paying people a decent wage is empowering them. People that earn a decent wage will spend more which is good for the economy. It’s simple mathematics.
@Jason Culligan commented: Meant to say we had a little discussion. Hate when my phone puts words in my mouth.
@Jason Culligan: I am laughing out very loud at a lot of your recent posts.The reason why I am laughing, is that you seem to be acting like a spin doctor for Donnie Trump and his family..I would like to know from you:are all these staff living and working in America ?
She’s a big girl, I’m sure she’s fine
@Chucky Arlaw: get the poll to work!!!
If they booed her when she walked on stage that would be one thing but she made comments, which to be fair are ridiculous so it was the comments that received the boos.
She is an unelected talking head why does this woman deserve a platform.?
@Mrs M:
Everyone deserves a platform.
@Jason Culligan: even you
@Jason Culligan: if everyone deserves a platform at this conference, why wasn’t I asked? Ivanka Trump is unelected. If she is there in her capacity as a business woman with a clothes and accessories line, then there are others in that position who are more successful.
@Anne Marie Devlin:
“if everyone deserves a platform at this conference”
Where did you pull that one from?
Mrs S stated that Ivanka Trump doesn’t deserve a platform full stop. I said that everyone deserves a platform. Where did you pull ‘at this conference’ from?
“Ivanka Trump is unelected”
So is Lagarde and Queen Maxima. What’s your point?
“then there are others in that position who are more successful.”
And? Who said any of them had the time to attend this event or weren’t invited? She was invited because she is the daughter of the current serving POTUS, is involved in European politics as a bridge to Trump and is herself a successful businesswoman.
@Jason Culligan: Does your jaw not tire from constantly blowing Trump ???
@Jason Culligan: she is where she is because of nepotism. She holds a position because of nepotism and optics for female voters, same with kelly Ann Conway. They have no say at all in what happens and what trump does. She is not self made, anyone deserves criticism for defending trump on his misogyny.
Heckling, booing and other such responses are part in parcel of speaking in public. Some crowds will cheer you on for speaking your mind and others will voice their opposition.
As long as people aren’t actively trying to silence one-another, this sort of behaviour is impolite but not in any way wrong.
@Jason Culligan:
Still though it is kinda sad to see so many jealous liberal women venting their spleen about a beautiful young woman trying to make America great again.
@Jack Cassady: you’re not really supporting her policies by continually referring to her appearance. What does she stand for and what do her looks have to do with?
@Jack Cassady commented: Pass me the sick bucket.
@Jack Cassady: bollocks. She is the normalising face for Donald’s extreme and always variable and unrealistic views/actions. She makes his uncouth and reprehensible behavior easier to take through the pretense that there is a liberal/sane steer on his choices, but that’s just her pitch with no evidence of her having any actual impact. Her brand and saleability are all that improves here, and as someone who claims credit for steering her father, she becomes complicit with him.
The loony double standard left is at it again championing women until it’s a woman they don’t agree with then it’s ok to act like children at a pantomime. Ffs they need to grow up!
@Anna Bee: so what you’re saying is that women can say anything unchallenged and it should always be applauded? Hmmm interesting view point.
@Deborah Behan: Bravo, Debs. Point well made. Bualadh bos.
@Deborah Behan: Did I say every woman should be applauded or go unchallenged? Try again Deborah. If Ivanka was in an audience listing to someone she didn’t agree with would she boo and hiss in a childish manner? I highly doubt it. I think it’s typical of the left at this stage, forget open discussion just boo and hiss to make the person you don’t like shut up, if it was the other way round and a feminist was speaking and they were on the receiving end of that kind of behaviour there’d be uproar and we’d all be getting lectures on fairness and equality.
@Anna Bee: They weren’t booing her because they were on the Left. They were booing her because she was blatantly lying.
@Deborah Behan: No need to applaud if you disagree. Just sit quietly on your hands. Booing is just plain rude.
@Michael Burke: Booing would be rude if she was just putting on a play or a musical or something, where the bad bits don’t affect the lives of hundreds of millions of people.
@Anna Bee: like a female presidential candidate having “lock her up” bellowed at her?
@Anna Bee: She was barely booed at. It was more moans and groans than anything else. Also, the audience were mostly women anyway.
@Anna Bee: What utter shite, I’m so sick of references to the “left”, she was booed because she is lying. End of #complicit
@Anna Bee: to call it a pantomime is a bit histrionic. The point is, she is making pronouncements on her fathers’s policies. She is on that platform representing him. It would be hypocritical to disagree with Ivanka’s comments and say nothing. Wealth or beauty give no-one rights to fo what they like unchallanged
@Anna Bee: I couldn’t agree more Anna
I’d say very much the contrary and both very much do give some the “rights” to do what they want unchallenged.
Any person speaking in public is subject to public opinion and their status as a daughter of a leader should not be a factor at all. You cannot suppress people’s peaceful protest at any event. If they were hurling rotten cabbages at her then maybe I’d say they shouldn’t do that but saying boo is fine and she needs to accept that.
@Catherine Sims:
She’s not complaining about it, though, is she? When Ivanka was booed and jeered at for her remarks, she continued on with the point that she was making.
She’s not the one making a deal out of it. The media is.
@Jason Culligan: I think it’s probably naive to think that someone isn’t pulling the Media’s strings in relation to this.
@Catherine Sims: I think it is stupid to think everything is a conspiracy. She is a public figure talking at a public event making excuses for abhorrent comments made by her father. Of course the media are going to report in it and people will comment on it. Absolutely no need for any conspiracy theory.
@Kal Ipers: I think it’s stupid for people to jump to conspiracy conclusions here. The fact is she is the presidents daughter and Americans don’t like her to be challenged or ” disrespected ” as I read one US article say. So yes there is likely a lot going on behind the scenes here and it’s not a conspiracy . So go have a cup of tea and calm down for yourself
Booing at someone due to their relation to someone else is wrong, but in this case where she is making bold and offensive claims like this about her father contrary to all evidence is a perfectly acceptable reason to be booed at.
do you think its acceptable her daddy talks about chocolate cake and bombing countries in the same sentence ?
@Joe O Duibh: And gets the country he just bombed wrong!
The Snowflake Alt-Right fanboys will be outraged.
@Diarmuid: Yup. The SJW Snowflake Alt-Righters won’t like this at all at all.
@Diarmuid: I thought u had left the journal Enda
Booing: Red thumbs for crowds.
@Damocles: green thumbs for the crowd!
She is just another wannabee celeb jumping on the bandwagon of someone elses success
She was blatantly lying to the audience. The audience booing her is wonderful, beautiful, reassuring, proof that there are people in the world who aren’t stupid enough to believe those lies.
She should just stick to been a hottie.
@Firewater75: *being
Boo those that invited her.
Just shows that those who Booed Ivanka are childish and immature, and do nothing to change or challenge her father’s views on a mature level!
@Dub_Right: bet she won’t make such a riddiculious statement again. It wasn’t very mature of her to defend her father given what the public have heard what he has said. Effectively she lied
@Kal Ipers:
I said this yesterday as well but I’ll say it again. The Trump campaign manager was the first woman in US history to lead a successful presidential campaign.
Two Cabinet members and two Cabinet-level officials are women. Even the Washington Post had an article back in 2015 where women who had worked at Trump’s companies said he was ‘ahead of his time’ for facilitating their development.
@Jason Culligan: wasn’t she the third campaign manager? Also wasn’t Jarred really running the show? What was Bannon’s role again? “Two cabinet members and two cabinet level officials are women”- out of how many? And do tell us, is this an increase or a decrease on the last guy?
@Jason Culligan: While I am invoking Godwin’s law. Hitler also saved his childhood Jewish doctor. Still doesn’t excuse his actions and she certainly didn’t run the campaign all the way.
@Kal Ipers: Challenge her based on her views, not booing and hissing like a medieval court!
@Dub_Right: the audience didn’t have a stage or a microphone and it was her views they booed
@Dub_Right: They were she believes her father stands up for women when clearly he doesn’t and it isn’t just the “grab” comment. No different to clapping in agreement
@Jason Culligan: OMG, You certainly don’t get out much with a stupid comment like that
@Jason Culligan: yes and he has also made heinous references to women and bragged about sexual assault. Which renders hiring KellyAnne Conway (and inflicting her upon the world) and his supposed support of women null and void.
Come on lads, have ye not learned yet that once Jason is shown up he won’t reply anymore. But he’ll be on a different article tomorrow saying the exact same thing
The booing was mild, no heckling was audible. And only then when she came out with something outlandish…like her dad cares so much about woman. From the press reports anyone would think screaming, cabbage and shoes were being thrown. For an dministration with a brass neck it has a very thin skin.
If she was there in her role as head of a fashion company and was talking about issues relating to that, then no, she didn’t deserve to be booed. If she was there in her role as advisor to the US president and was defending his actions then yes, she should expect people to disagree with her
I notice there is suddenly a lot of women commenting here about Ivanka. lol.
@Fred Jensen: I don’t quite get how there’s an LOL moment in that, but at least you enjoyed it!
Booing a person is a lowering of standards and common decency. It says more about the audience than about the person being booed.
@Micheal S. O’ Ceilleachair commented: What were people meant to do? Sit & politely listen to her drivel. If people want to have a public platform to air their views then they have to be prepared to accept negativity as well as positivity. It’s no different to the Journal in that people have differing points of view.
@Micheal S. O’ Ceilleachair: this “booing is just downright rude!” attitude is BS, does the same go for applause? Booing is action taken to convey disapproval, applause is action taken to convey praise; why is it only acceptable to blow smoke up someone arse? Outright lies defending a misogynist sex pest deserved to be booed, if anything such barefaced lies were rude and insulting to the collective intelligence of the audience.
Yes, it was right to boo at her, given how she’s defending her pussy-grabbin’ father’s record of being an advocate for women’s rights
When ya go to bed with your dad your fair game lads
The Journal, dealing with the important issues!
Beware jealous women.
Haters gonna hate.
@Jack Cassady: That’s it, she was booed by jealous women. Nothing to do with eh tripe she was spouting about her father.
@Jack Cassady: When you quote Taylor Swift to win an argument, it’s hopelessly lost.
@CeannairBlue: Jack is hopelessly lost in every sense
A German “crowed” booed and hissed at Ivanka Trump for saying her father is an advocate of families. And this from the same people who killed six million jews and brought war to the world twice in one century. Yes, the Germans know so much about the well-being of families.
i am on a No but….. she shouldn’t have been there to defend her father in the first place and if she puts herself in that position well then she has to expect it
Seriously. It was supposed to be a discussion about feminism. Not a platform for Yet More Effing Trump!
1)Ladgarde – €403 million arbitration deal in favour of businessman 2) Merkel – unqualified invitation to Syrian refugees to come to Germany last year – 1 million later!! And Ivana Trump GETS heckled?
@Yap McGregor: Spot on 2 women who are accomplished liars. Lagarde who decimated this country and should be in jail and Merkel who also assisted in our destruction and Germanys Destruction. And yet most people on here paying back bailout debts are finding fault with Ms. Trump who is in a position to actually do something for Ireland.It shows we deserve to be in the slow lane of third world countries.
Booing Ivanka Trump…but no booing of Angela Merkel, who has allowed thousands of criminals and terrorist/terrorist sympathisers in to terrorise Europe.
Freedom of expression should never be taken away. If the audience felt she was talking crap then more power to them.
Yes
If Ivanka moves into the Whitehouse as her fathers aide and chooses to sit in front of an audience, international or domestic, discussing her fathers policies, then booing her, in my opinion, is an acceptable way of showing disapproval. Ignoring the elephant in the room would be morally wrong
This was a gathering of wealthy, globalist elites. Not unlike when the Regiment of Flanders trampled the French tricolor at a party in the Palace of Versailles in rejection of the new political order heralded by the French revolution. The regiment of the rich see Ivanka and Trump as heretics of their class because they have put the working man and women first, instead of the elite. In a sense Donald Trump is a second Lafayette in that sense. I can almost imagine Marie Antoinette in that room, bemoaning the “populism” of the Revolution.
No but I think CNN etc have overdone this story. It was more groans and hisses than boos. It wont hurt Donald with his base, who would see such gatherings as echo chambers of the globalist elite including the IMF. Christine Lagarde was sitting beside Ivanka and she was recently found guilty of negligence in handling the Tapie arbitration approval, yet noone complains about the ethics of her being allowed remain as IMF boss.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Lagarde#Investigation_into_alleged_misuse_of_power
Yes it is. Freedom of speech doesn’t mean there are no consequences. If you say something stupid don’t expect people to just smile and nod.
She risked bringing the trump name into disrepute sitting beside Christine Legarde.
@Gerry Campbell: Too late. Trump name is already in disrepute given her father’s behaviour
I wonder if people who answered ‘yes’ on this pole would answer ‘yes’ if Chelsea Clinton was booed and hist at.
Just because you want to see someone booed doesn’t make it right. It’s disrespectful to her.
@Jack Bowden: Yeah, but you see we don’t all naturally have respect for either of those people, and it’s hard to see why we should fake it.
@Neal, not Neil.: What’s wrong with Chelsea or Ivanka? Yeah both their dads are Presidents of the United States, but they both seem like quite nice people. I wonder if Obama’s Children got booed when making speeches or when in debates in school or college.
Something strikes me as being ironic: there’s a lot of adverse internet commentary here about Ibrahim Halawa, primarily because his father Hossain is one of the premier Muslim Brotherhood clerics in Europe. It’s been suggested that Ibrahim and his family went to Egypt to act as agents provocateurs, under papa Halawa’s instigation. But many feel that it’s unfair to blame the son for the politics of the father. Is it fair to blackguard Ivanka Trump for Donald? If so, is Ibrahim Halawa fair game also?
A Guest should always be treated with courteously.
An exception is totally acceptable if a TRUMP, home or away.
The booing was a tiny part of the overall event and she was asked quite a lot more by the other women and said a lot more (drivel). But, well it makes for media coverage to concentrate on the booing.
The German tv news reported not the booing but the other stuff.
Born with Trump name,but as a individual is entitled to her space.Also she is not her parents keeper
@Peter Fitzpatrick:
No indeed, but when she seeks to defend her father on a world platform, she is fair game I’d say.
First time her Dad ever sent her to a event where she didn’t have to wear a swimsuit. I
She was there in an official capacity as an advisor to the US President. She needs to forget he’s her dad and stop being blind to his behavior outside the privileged family home environment. Of course she was given every advantage, he could afford it!
People are allowed to boo her. She’s a public figure espousing opinions on things that are contrary to documented fact. She needs to get used to the idea that her dad is not a good guy to everyone and that her blind support of and for his behaviors won’t be tolerated.
It was acceptable in the 80s
@Craig De Barra: Pussy Grabbing?
@_doesnotcompute: hehehehe
Why no-one brought eggs and flour to this?
Where I come from we use the expression ‘ ya can’t boo to him or he’ll take the off ya’ meaning don’t boo at him.
No matter what you think of Trump, What a shower of media led “sheep” people who automatically voted Yes in this Vote are ?!
Doubt she cares, I wouldn’t. Them people are so dim ha
@Mark Mcloughlin: Says the man with sub-par grammar.
Stay classy loony lefty libtards.
Should of being that lagarde one being booed she should be behind bars
Her father is a bozo
I will let you know if it was acceptable or not at the liquor rooms trump debate 6:00 pm today. Myself and Paddy Cullivan Vs Larry Donnelly and Justine McCarthy .
I think she’s Munya for Jam , :)
We should make booing illegal haha. My first thought after hearing about this was the only people booing were previous Trump supports haha. I mean no offence.
Booing is mean, but she is just talking about Trump! They aren’t booing her, so it is okay for some people to boo. That said though, she might not see it like that so I wouldn’t be the one booing. Everybody be nice to them so that they might become nice back. Give peace a chance :)
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