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Robyn Myna from Athlone protesting outside the Department of Health in April Leah Farrell/RollingNews.ie

'Complete outrage': Protest against Sisters of Charity owning maternity hospital happening today

A petition against the order owning the hospital has been signed by over 100,000 people.

A PROTEST MARCH against the Sisters of Charity owning the new national maternity hospital will take place in Dublin city today.

Demonstrators will gather at the Garden of Remembrance at 2pm before making their way to Leinster House.

Today’s march has been organised by a number of groups including the National Women’s Council of Ireland, Parents for Choice in Pregnancy and Stillbirth, Justice for Magdalenes Research and Uplift.

The latter organised a petition against the religious order owning the hospital. It has been signed by over 103,000 people at the time of publication.

The Sisters of Charity own the land at St Vincent’s Hospital in Dublin 4 where the new €300 million hospital is earmarked to be built.

Denise Kiernan, who created the petition, will be one of the speakers at today’s rally. She plans to send the petition to Health Minister Simon Harris and the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Public Petitions.

Kiernan told TheJournal.ie the petition’s popularity indicated the “complete outrage and anger” some members of the public feel about the order potentially owning the hospital, given its previous involvement in institutional abuse.

She added that many people wish to see the separation of Church and State, particularly when it comes to issues such as health and education.

Growing controversy 

The controversy over the hospital’s ownership has grown in recent weeks. The news was first reported by the Times of Ireland in March, and garnered a large political and public reaction after being reported by the Irish Times last month.

Dr Peter Boylan, the former master of Holles Street, resigned from the board of the national maternity hospital over the ongoing row.

Boylan had questioned if certain procedures would be performed at a hospital owned by a Catholic order, such as abortion, sterilisation, gender reassignment surgery and IVF.

The current Holles St Master Dr Rhona Murray and Health Minister Simon Harris have repeatedly insisted the hospital will have complete clinical and operational independence.

90509937 Dr Rhona Mahony, Master of Holles Street, and the Deputy chair of the board Nicholas Kearns after the meeting Eamonn Farrell / RollingNews.ie Eamonn Farrell / RollingNews.ie / RollingNews.ie

At a meeting on 26 April, the Holles St board re-endorsed the deal it struck with St Vincent’s.

In a statement released following the meeting, the board said:

This agreement provides that the clinical, financial and operational independence of the national maternity hospital at Elm Park shall be enshrined in its memorandum and articles of association and all related legal agreements.

Kiernan said some people are not reassured by these promises and fear undue influence from the Church over how the hospital is run in the future.

“I really do believe that we do need this hospital, but it shouldn’t come at this cost,” she said.

Last week the Dáil backed a Sinn Féin motion seeking to legally guarantee clinical independence at the new hospital.

Read: Holles Street board re-endorses deal to move maternity hospital

Read: Mary Lou McDonald says the State needs to get maternity hospital site ‘by any means’

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    Sep 13th 2024, 2:51 AM

    Of course a tenfold increase in farm inspections.
    Why?
    Because the purpose is to make farming as an industry impossible, drive farmers off their land and force them to sell the land to the state for buttons.
    And if anyone objects, the weight of the apparatus of the State will be unleashed on them.
    You think I’m wrong, ask Enoch Burke, the same playbook is being rolled out.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 3:45 AM

    @Garry Coll: and if all that fails they are racists…………

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    Sep 13th 2024, 3:46 AM

    @Garry Coll: wow ! There must be more to this story. Those farmers have to be complaining for some reason. I think the truth needs to be revealed.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 3:47 AM

    @Oh Mammy:
    Wouldn’t be able to say that, but they are definitely Communist traitors.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 3:49 AM

    @offside again:
    Didn’t realise the Journal paid their trolls overtime.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 3:49 AM

    @Oh Mammy: don’t forget your comments this time …

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    Sep 13th 2024, 3:59 AM

    @Garry Coll: what time is it Garry ? 04:54am where I am. How much do you get paid Garry ? Do you get paid overtime ? Your boss is not getting value for money at this hour of the morning.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 6:10 AM

    @offside again: if I do I will count on your photographic to remind me. Thank you!

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    Sep 13th 2024, 6:12 AM

    @Oh Mammy: *memory

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    Sep 13th 2024, 6:14 AM

    @Garry Coll: not the farmers I know. You should go meet one some day. You would learn a lot. (FYI, food does not come from Tesco)

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    Sep 13th 2024, 7:06 AM

    @Garry Coll: and risk having multiple Thomas Reid cases..

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    Sep 13th 2024, 8:01 AM

    @Garry Coll: I was with ya until you mentioned Mr Potato head and his bible thumping nut job family in the end…..Farmers we need, religious attention seeking nutters like the burkes who just wanna be a pain for attention and have beliefs akin to places like Alabama back in 1800′s is not

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    Sep 13th 2024, 8:30 AM

    @Garry Coll: ‘Communist traitors’?

    You need professional help for your paranoia. If you were any further to the right you’d fall off the edge.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 8:32 AM

    @Garry Coll: You actually *want* badly polluted and toxic waterways? Is clean water communist?

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    Sep 13th 2024, 11:19 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: could he already be off the edge?

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    Sep 13th 2024, 11:42 AM

    @Garry Coll: I wouldn’t ask Enoch Burke the fkn time!

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    Sep 13th 2024, 10:20 PM

    @Brendan O’Brien: The state is far and away the largest polluter of our waterways and our air through Co.councils third world water treatment and the ESB, but inconvenient truths seldom get published or reported on, and the state will never take the blame for being the country’s biggest polluter

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    Sep 13th 2024, 3:44 AM

    I support our farmers. Thank you

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    Sep 13th 2024, 6:45 AM

    @Oh Mammy: if they want to pollute our rivers that is their human rights.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 8:44 AM

    @Sal Paradise: Money is far more important than human rights (probably to every commenter here too).

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    Sep 13th 2024, 1:04 PM

    @Sal Paradise: most of the pollution in rivers isn’t from farmers it’s from irish water ironically enough. The last few fish kills were due to sewage and chemicals released into rivers. This still happens and the fines are tiny. People will always blame the farmers. They are a easy target.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 12:28 AM

    The bird population in our area has been decimated. Haven’t seen frog spawn, dragonflies or other marsh dwelling creatures in decades. The water is toxic.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 1:19 AM

    @Don Johnson: Bird populations are also affected by Wind Turbines , high mortality rates around them & also by the Mink population which has exploded around Ireland, I have witnessed entire populations of ducks on lakes wiped out by Mink, so it’s not just farming, waste water treatment plants around us & septic tanks are the biggest culprits, Farmers are just the easy targets all the time, particularly for the Green Party & it’s members.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 1:59 AM

    @SV3tN8M4: I would wager the impact of septic tanks on slobland wildlife is fairly negligible. All evidence points to farmers as the highest culprit in polluting the waterways. But as usual they’ll play the tiresome victim card instead of taking responsibility for a change.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 8:36 AM

    @SV3tN8M4: But you agree that slurry should be properly managed, right?

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    Sep 13th 2024, 1:05 PM

    @Don Johnson: show me your evidence. The last number of fish kills were irish water. Irish water has also been pumping sewage into the sea….

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    Sep 13th 2024, 6:44 PM

    @Brendan O’Brien: Yes, so too should Waste Water treatment plants, whose record is been covered up by the EPA. Many factors in the decline of bird population, solely not the reserve of Farmers. Farmers are No. 1 target for the Green Party, but Aviation, Cement Plants & Data Centres are exempt in their eyes. The Greens will make Ireland food dependent very quickly & destroy our Agricultural export market,costing thousands of jobs in rural communities.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 7:40 AM

    Thank-you for such an informative article! Have to say I’m with Fogarty on this one. It’s down to basic maths – more farm animals, more slurry spreading results in poorer water quality. Perhaps more frequent farm inspections will highlight this issue further. But what will be done then? Of course we need excellent produce, especially for our export market but at the end of the day, is the bigger profit margin worth such a decline in our water quality? Is it??

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    Sep 13th 2024, 8:32 AM

    @Susan Gaines: No, greed is destroying this country and the planet

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    Sep 13th 2024, 12:21 AM

    A straight to the comments article for sure. Excuse my ignorance..

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    Sep 13th 2024, 1:18 AM

    @Paul Gorry: It was a long one for sure.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 9:40 AM

    They should clean the roads after they move cattle or when they are spreading slurry. In my experience most do not. When it rains it is treacherous on these roads, They put down matting across a road to move cattle and this is totally illegal and dangerous. I can only imagine what the EPA inspections find on the inside of the farms.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 9:15 AM

    Scientists and active farmers need to have relationships of mutual trust.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 8:43 AM

    Good to see how well Limerick and Cork are doing

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    Sep 13th 2024, 11:36 AM

    As long as beef can be exported right? To feed the world our environment for the profit of who?

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    Sep 13th 2024, 1:11 PM

    @Chutes: you do realize that in ireland we have the perfect climate to grow grass. It’s not really suited to growing fruit or wheat for bread as we don’t get enough sun light. We could trade our surplus of beef for those items. That’s how it’s always worked here. Also you know that a field full of grass has healthy soils full of nutrients and carbon is locked up in it. We can’t eat the grass but the cows can. Meaning our Milk and butter is among the best in the world.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 5:48 PM

    @Washpenrebel: While it’s true that Ireland’s climate is ideal for growing grass, stating that the country cannot effectively produce fruit or wheat due to insufficient sunlight isn’t entirely accurate. Advances in agricultural techniques and the use of resilient crop varieties have enabled Irish farmers to successfully cultivate a variety of fruits and cereals. For example, Ireland has a growing apple industry, and grains like barley and oats are commonly produced for both domestic use and export.

    Relying heavily on beef production raises significant environmental concerns. Livestock farming, particularly cattle, is a major source of methane—a greenhouse gas that is over 25 times more potent than carbon dioxide in trapping heat in the atmosphere over a 100-year period, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) of Ireland reports that agriculture accounts for about one-third of the country’s total greenhouse gas emissions, with methane from enteric fermentation in ruminant animals being a primary contributor.

    While grasslands do sequester carbon in the soil, the methane emissions from cattle often offset these benefits. Additionally, overgrazing can lead to soil degradation and a loss of biodiversity. Diversifying agricultural practices to include more crop cultivation can improve soil health through crop rotation and reduce dependency on a single industry.

    Trading surplus beef for essential items like fruit and wheat may not be sustainable in the long term. It exposes the country to global market fluctuations and potential trade disruptions, which can affect food security. Producing a wider range of crops domestically can reduce the carbon footprint associated with importing goods and promote a more resilient local food system.

    Moreover, while Irish dairy products like milk and butter are highly regarded, it’s important to balance production with environmental sustainability. Implementing practices that reduce emissions, such as improving feed efficiency and manure management, can help mitigate the environmental impact.

    In summary, Ireland has the potential to broaden its agricultural outputs beyond livestock, which can lead to environmental benefits and enhanced food security without compromising the quality of its renowned dairy products.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 7:41 PM

    @Chutes: irish grasslands sequestration of carbon have been found to be 4.5 times higher than what is currently being allowed. This data is from the dept of agriculture own study in johnstown castle Co wexford. This means their are many farms in ireland that are carbon sinks and do not produce excess carbon. Cows are not the problem here.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 10:32 AM

    A dry day in the counrtyside now accompanied by the smell of shit, the tourists must love it! I fkn hate it, I’m old enough to remember when we had a countryside, ya know, one with wildlife back before it was an industrial farm, the young’ns won’t remember.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 11:41 AM

    @Chutes: The place is full of wild life. Hedgehogs eating the cats food, the cats drop dead shrews, mice, rats and birds at the back door every couple of days. A bumper crop of swallows nests on the house. Dead badgers and foxes on the roads, buzzards in sky picking off young pheasants, lurchers chasing hares in the distance, wasps nest in the compost heap, herrings in the river picking off the fish. Horseflies, midges and daddy longlegs everywhere.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 5:45 PM

    @P. V. Aglue: While it may appear that the area is abundant with wildlife, several factual considerations suggest otherwise. Hedgehog populations, for instance, have been declining significantly in many regions due to habitat loss and road fatalities, making frequent sightings less common than implied. Similarly, swallows have experienced population decreases attributed to changes in agricultural practices and loss of nesting sites, so a “bumper crop” of nests is unlikely without conservation efforts in place.

    Buzzards primarily feed on carrion and small rodents rather than young pheasants, and their hunting patterns don’t typically involve preying extensively on game birds. The mention of dead badgers and foxes on roads highlights human impact on wildlife rather than a thriving ecosystem; roadkill incidents are a leading cause of mortality for these animals.

    Furthermore, herons (likely what was meant by “herrings”) are affected by water pollution and habitat destruction, which can limit their ability to feed on fish in rivers. The prevalence of pests like wasps, horseflies, midges, and daddy longlegs is often influenced by environmental imbalances, sometimes caused by reduced numbers of their natural predators.

    Overall, while individual encounters with wildlife can give the impression of abundance, many species are facing challenges that reduce their populations. Human activities have significantly altered habitats, and the presence of certain animals may be more indicative of ecological imbalance than of a healthy, wildlife-rich environment.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 10:22 PM

    @Chutes: The weather has the biggest impact on ecology imbalances. The cold wet spring this year was bad for the bumble bee. The beast from the east freeze of 2018 and 2010 and 12 killed thousands of birds, big and small. A bad flood will drowned out the fox, badger,and rabbit population in an area.In the next few years ash dieback will really take hold and 10s of thousands of trees will be cut down, fireblight will start effecting the hedge rows country wide, killing miles and miles of habit. All imported diseases by a government scheme jumping to the eco lobby groups. What seems like the right thing to do, can do more harm in the long run.

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    Sep 14th 2024, 9:25 AM

    @P. V. Aglue: Your degree in ecologigal studies is from where? Forgive me if I think your opinion ill-informed and ignore.

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    Sep 14th 2024, 9:25 AM

    @Chutes: ecological

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    Sep 13th 2024, 6:45 PM

    All these pimps should be run from the farm gates , the Agri. Dept . Haven’t a clue about what goes on or how a farm is run.

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    Sep 13th 2024, 4:34 PM

    Our council should retrain the dog and litter wardens as they seem to do f all dog and litter inspections!

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