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Pub kitchen at centre of salmonella probe among latest outlets closed over food safety

Seven closure orders and one prohibition order were served by the FSAI last month.

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A PUB KITCHEN closed following an outbreak of salmonella in north Dublin last month is among eight closure and prohibition orders issued by the Food Safety Authority of Ireland (FSAI) in May.

The kitchen of O’Dwyers Bar & Grill – also known as the Golf Links – on Strand Road in Portmarnock was served with a closure order on 19 May.

The kitchen is operated by Flanreil Food Services Ltd, which is the company that has been served with the closure order.

That outbreak led one of the country’s top health officials, Dr Kevin Kelleher, to warn people to take extra food safety precautions in the wake of the spread of the illness.

Seven closure orders have been detailed by the FSAI today, together with one prohibition order. The seven businesses are:

  • Maid of Erin pub, Tipperary town
  • O’Dwyers pub, Portmarnock, Co Dublin
  • Tasty Bite takeaway, Manorcunningham, Co Donegal
  • Tropica, Bray, Co Wicklow (order lifted one week after being served)
  • Food production area in Londis, Sandyford, Dublin 18 (order lifted the following day)
  • Yo & More, Swords, Co Dublin
  • Zam Zam Kebab House, Sligo (order lifted the following day)

The sole prohibition order, which sees a business ordered not to sell a particular item or items of produce, was served on Dublin sushi outlet Kokoro at its Liffey Street branch.

That order related to bags of salmon mayonnaise, smoked salmon, salmon teriyaki, raw chicken, and raw beef being removed from sale.

Closure orders by the FSAI can be served under Irish (the FSAI act 1998) or European legislation.

The authority issues notice of closure orders served on a monthly basis, albeit without details of why the order was served.

62 such orders were served on restaurants and takeaways across the country in 2016.

Read: 11 workers taken to hospital after ‘uncontrolled release’ in Poolbeg incinerator

Read: Thai and Chinese restaurants among food outlets served with closure orders last month

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    Mute tomthumb
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    Jan 21st 2015, 12:48 PM

    How ironic they are discussing climate change and all the delegates are arriving by private plane.. You couldn’t make this s**t up..

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    Mute Eel Knack Mole
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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:06 PM

    Well they were hardly going to walk.

    Seriously though I think it should be possible for most people to attend ‘online’ in the future through video links. There would be some issues for keeping it open to the public and media, but if you could get over that it would make a lot of sense. I’m sure Bill Gates could sort it.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:13 PM

    Yes, they are going to talk about setting up a company / quango called Irish Air. This is of course to help us to improve the quality of the air that we breath which is no longer fit for human consumption due to lack of investment from previous governments.

    Irish Air will take a lot of money to set up and the government will of course be willing to pay a premium for consultants and advisers / cronies and unfortunately it is the people who will foot the bill.

    The government promise that Irish Air will never be privatized / sold to Dennis O’Brien so there will be no need to even have an expensive referendum on the matter which saves time and money.

    Irish Air will eventually deliver a quality of air which we can all be proud of and will make us, not only the best small country in the world in which to do business but the envy of the entire western world.

    So anyone who does not agree with Irish air is simply an ignorant irresponsible left wing terrorist with an expensive phone and a sinister fringe. They also by default support Sinn Fein who are mass murdering rapists and will wreck the economy if you vote for them. :-)

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:21 PM

    Sshhh dont be giving them any ideas petyr

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    Mute Norman Hunter
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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:29 PM

    It’s been done lads,Greens got there first.Carbon Tax.

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    Mute D H
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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:47 PM

    Peytr and everyone will be metered with a locked on wearable device so those using more air will pay more. Its only fair

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    Mute Dermot Ryan
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    Jan 21st 2015, 2:04 PM

    I hear a bust firm has won the contract with a price that only a consultant would believe … but more say it’s all hot air at the moment

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    Jan 21st 2015, 2:07 PM

    Actually,Enda’s heading over on the Hello Kitty tricycle Angela got him for Christmas,I think he left yesterday,bless his cotton socks. ‘Ich kommen Mutti! Ich kommen!’ *peddles furiously*

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    Jan 21st 2015, 3:21 PM

    The top two most popular categories in the jet list are “Private Owner” and “Swiss” .
    What does correlation mean ?

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    Jan 21st 2015, 3:21 PM

    Where would be the fun in that, Mole?

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    Jan 21st 2015, 6:48 PM

    Brilliant!!!!!!!!

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    Jan 21st 2015, 6:55 PM

    You know i really wish I could laugh about this. This just shows Kenny has no infinity or patriotism for Ireland its get what you can while you can.
    I hope with time he will realise what he did to the Country and when he bowed to Europe bites him in the ass, sooner rather than later

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    Jan 21st 2015, 7:01 PM

    Every time Enda meets Peter Sutherland he walks away with a stain on his tie.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 7:03 PM

    Hahahah brilliant! Very funny, but sadly this could come true

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    Jan 21st 2015, 11:22 PM

    If Prince Andrew is there, the fun might be in the underage orgy, ok a very bad joke.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 12:57 PM

    The movers and shakers part of the 1% who own 50% of the earth’s resources….

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    Mute Dermot Ryan
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    Jan 21st 2015, 2:05 PM

    Politics is a numbers game – they play it until they get the numbers wrong. The numbers are beginning to look fierce wrong .

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    Jan 21st 2015, 6:57 PM

    @Dermot, i don’t always agree with you but i hope you are right this time

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    Jan 21st 2015, 7:13 PM

    Kenny won’t be concerned with numbers it will be the I.O.U.s Denis gave him for all the government contracts and loan right downs he got. More a question of how fat will my brown envelope be?

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    Mute Kane Abel
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    Jan 21st 2015, 7:32 PM

    Oh good, we’re sending the Fr. Dougal of politics to Davos, seriously Kenny has lived idly off the midguided confusion of the Mayo electorate for so long the last of his brain cells expired around 2005…..

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    Jan 21st 2015, 7:35 PM

    This week and last week will go down in history as hugely significant weeks before the 2015 crash.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 7:47 PM

    So right Kane, the idiot out to amuse the Nations

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    Jan 21st 2015, 7:58 PM

    @Kerry, it’s actually 95% of the wealth they own

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    Jan 21st 2015, 8:28 PM

    In 100 years they will look back on the current financial system in the same way we look back on feudal Europe.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 12:49 PM

    Ha ha the rich talking about fighting corruption. Climate change with their private jets. The poor and disadvantaged while paying 40 euro just for a whisky
    Hypocrisy at the highest level. Every year they sit and discuss and every year the rich get richer and the poor poorer.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 12:46 PM

    Enda and Denis together no surprise there.

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    Mute Eel Knack Mole
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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:10 PM

    I think the headline writer may have been having a bit of fun there! Everyone here loves a good Denis O’Brien conspiracy. Where’s Frank when you need him? He would probably go into meltdown if he read this.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:17 PM

    So there’s no connection between FG and Denis so?

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    Jan 21st 2015, 3:22 PM

    “Je suis Sparticus !”

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:06 PM

    This is a conference for the wealthiest people in the world to meet with the worlds leaders and politicans to discuss and conspire together how they might come up with new and novel ways of getting the worlds people to continue contributing to their vulgar displays of ostentatious wealth. Ideas like charging for water, carbon taxes, climate change, etc.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:45 PM

    I remember Lord Rothschild in an interview saying that if we can tax two or maybe three of mother natures elements then we effectively become God of course they are taxing on the false pretense that humans are to blame for global warming not so humans are polluting the oceans earth and sky global warming is an event that has happened from dawn of time.. What I laughable is that the chief polluters are now in charge of the clean up whilst they still make profit from destroying and of course they will blame the little people as they sell us their goods that pollute and will also charge for the non clean up operation that wont happen but you will still pay for.. And pay well

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    Jan 21st 2015, 2:24 PM

    B-Egan. Dont worry, there will be plenty new ideas emerge from the Davos ‘hole in the wall’ gang. We can expect our governments to float ideas like charging a fee if you want to have a child. Another good one will be to use mobile phone technology to track our every movement so that eventually we pay a charge everytime we enter a city, already happening in some juristictions. A charge based on everything we buy rather than diapose of, monitered by the little micro chips already developed by Gilette and in use in many parts of the world. There is indeed a conserted race on for things like our air water and sunshine to be taxed for the primary benefit of the few.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 5:20 PM

    Depopulation by pricing the gentiles out of existence Jack. Economic Darwinism 101 but the game is rigged so maybe the survival of the fittest is muted by survival of the most corrupt. #HungerGames

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    Jan 21st 2015, 9:57 PM

    Who owns the patents for guillotines and baskets?

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    Jan 21st 2015, 10:22 PM

    if only a big s*** could fall from the sky and wipe them all out. perfect spot, just where we have them all. good riddance, lets start again. the more pr***in around they’re doing the more likelihood they will fall at some stage, though not all at the same time unfortunately.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:01 PM

    One world order

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    Jan 21st 2015, 2:40 PM

    Enda is for the high jump if he can’t explain away his poor poll showings – The Elite like to be popular and they know the real figures !

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    Jan 21st 2015, 3:50 PM

    so he will go to this. but not to a conference dealing with national debt

    sums it all up really

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    Jan 21st 2015, 7:04 PM

    Enda is going there to talk about his five point plan for squeezing more tax out of the plebs……

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    Jan 21st 2015, 7:51 PM

    @ Chris. That’s why IW must not win. Im just wondering what is enough for Denis O Brien. What a s@&€ b;:

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    Jan 21st 2015, 7:51 PM

    Journal why did you not submit my comment.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 7:52 PM

    Is D O B your boss

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 8:25 AM

    We heard you the first time Von. The answer is no.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 12:47 PM

    Millionaires and politicians…brown envelopes and kick backs more like.

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    Mute Bondage Informer
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    Jan 21st 2015, 12:54 PM

    The problem is you won’t fight back.
    You won’t challenge their corruption and manipulation of your decision makers.
    You depend on their corporations for your basic existence.
    You are sedated by their media saturation devices.
    Your opinions are moulded by their news companies so you support their war crime conquests.
    Your mind resists the brutal reality that you are their livestock.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:24 PM

    Very well put bondage and very true.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:49 PM

    Time is always on the side of the oppressed – all empires fall at their zenith !

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    Jan 21st 2015, 2:04 PM

    We are out there. Community and environmental groups. Volunteers raising awareness, taking action, trying to get the arms of state to take action, bringing cases to the high court, European court, UN. check out http://www.windawareireland.com

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    Jan 21st 2015, 12:45 PM

    Disgusting.

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    Mute Scrap Croke Park1
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    Jan 21st 2015, 12:51 PM

    What will douchebag Kenny come out with this year?

    “Paddy loves to party”

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    Jan 21st 2015, 12:56 PM

    I heard he doesn’t want any debt relief for our country,carried by various news outlets yesterday.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:01 PM

    I suspect he’s bricking it that a left wing party in Greece will get a debt write down, while 4 years on, all he has to show for his obsequious prostration before his EU masters is a head ruffle

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:19 PM

    Ah be fair he got a ‘Seismic shift’ whatever that is.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:50 PM

    More like a vaseline free seismic a$$ reaming

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    Jan 21st 2015, 12:57 PM

    Political leaders, billionaires and celebrities. What is Enda’s place there?

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:19 PM

    Illusions of grandeur brings Enda there I would suspect. The government jet will look like a mark 1 Escort beside the billionaires toys.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:45 PM

    Tea boy McGuyver..

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:59 PM

    If they can kickstart it .

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    Jan 21st 2015, 12:45 PM

    The venture capitalists and their political vassels meet to decide the fate of the world. Greed before profit before people!

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    Jan 21st 2015, 2:29 PM

    Green greed…

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    Jan 21st 2015, 2:42 PM

    By that I mean the very same venture capitalists are using the guise of environmentalism to push their so called “green” products and projects on us for maximum profit. Perfect case in point..the wind industry. Developer led policy enacted by cronies in government. Billions invested by taxpayer and paid out in subsidies and curtailment payments etc to developers. Net result..negligible net cut in CO2 emissions and fuel import savings. We now have the 3rd highest electricity price in Europe. Green greed…

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    Jan 21st 2015, 12:50 PM

    As a Irish country we should be ashamed of ourselves to let them lavish themselves on our expenses and taxes . It’s a disgrace .

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    Jan 21st 2015, 12:44 PM

    I wanna get in on this kinda scene and action. How do I go about corrupting myself? !

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    Jan 21st 2015, 12:46 PM

    Honesty is the best policy and these guys have not got it , corruption at its highest that’s why I and many others will not pay

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    Jan 21st 2015, 2:50 PM

    Eugene, killing children for oil would probably get you on the invitation list. After that get the imf in to take over everything you and your family own. And if you know anyone who has gold devise a plot to steal it, thats your ticket straight to the vip tent

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    Jan 21st 2015, 12:58 PM

    A global internationalists ‘Galway Tent’. Well we know the impact for our democracy when last business and politics sat in cosy collusion.
    An elected leader turning up to let business bend their ear should be turfed out of office.

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    Mute Dave Fingleton
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    Jan 21st 2015, 2:10 PM

    The “ff tent at the galway races” is alive and well and is thriving on a totally bananas government energy policy.
    Corruption and cronyism at its finest..irish style….http://www.windawareireland.com/grid-25-social-network-groupthink/

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    Jan 21st 2015, 12:54 PM

    Dennis O Brien runs Ireland

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    Jan 21st 2015, 10:30 PM

    he may run out of it next year. its become more and more clear cowen slobbered his way all over the debts we received, now in topaz along with the gang, couldn’t get anymore corrupt. where do they get these failures? does it matter, its not an honest job, they need crooks to run crooked establishments it seems.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:15 PM

    David Cameron UK PM is not attending Davos this year. He thinks mingling with the superrich and powerful will not go down well with the electorate in May. I see Dame Enda has no illusions about his own importance and the need for him to attend Davos. A lovely social club to go to…

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:24 PM

    He probably wet his kaks when he got the invite.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:10 PM

    Davos is where a collection of double crossing Leaders of nations plot & scheme against their own people to further enhance the greed and power of high financiers & big corporations who are also there to make sure they do. Nothing absolutely nothing will come of it for everyday folk only a pat on the back and a keep it up tah very much suckers.

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    Mute Paudi Onail
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    Jan 21st 2015, 10:23 PM

    pretty much sums it up, they’ve made us hate them more. not a good thing to be doing. theres millions of us.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 12:43 PM

    Off on a jolly!

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    Jan 21st 2015, 8:26 PM

    What’s Tax Fugitive Bilderberger Strokeman O’Brien doing there?
    Doing a bit of shady dealings in the shadows as per usual?

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    Mute Drew
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    Jan 21st 2015, 12:45 PM

    And thanks to the Swiss Franc being unpegged every euro, dollar or pound they spend will be have an added 30% more to what was already the most expensive country to visit in the world….

    We really should offer up Dublin as the venue for the next billionaire conference.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:12 PM

    and yet we will still have the sheep voting for the creep (kenny) again next election. Talking austerity yet him and our, name only, President go on their world tours and enjoy lavish lifestyles. Charlie Haughey at least had brains …. Kerry is only a muppet ….. a dangerously stupid muppet!

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:13 PM

    Kenny not Kerry …… I would not insult the people of Kerry …

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:30 PM

    I wonder will enda and his buddy denis share a jet. I can only assume that by attending this event the likes of DOB will become twice as rich frrom their wheeling and dealing. Why else would they pay to attend. We shouldnt be so naieve to believe that those in attendance want to help us in anyway but rather wish to further enslave us.

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    Mute simon shewster
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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:09 PM

    Davos = how can we even further consolide wealth with more ease

    Imagine rupert murdoch taking obama to davos.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 12:56 PM

    Mincemeat brained puppet

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    Mute Dermot Mc Loughlin
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    Jan 21st 2015, 2:12 PM

    “Thanks enda for refusing to seek a debt write down for your country and for your beleaguered citizens”

    “Ahhhh no problem lads, just make sure there’s no cameras about for my annual hair ruffle, paddy doesn’t like to see what sort of gobsh!te they have representing them”

    “Representing them?….haha, nice one enda”

    “Lol”

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    Jan 21st 2015, 2:10 PM

    Rotten to the core.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:47 PM

    Birds of a feather, including vultures, flock together… The trick is to see through the plumage .

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    Jan 21st 2015, 2:17 PM

    Corporation lobbying at its best.Those people care nothing for us all they are is profiteers money on the brain

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    Jan 21st 2015, 2:42 PM

    No good ever comes out of this for the 99.999% of the people living on this planet. Neo liberal aganda to privatize everything.I hope Enda tells them that their plans to get their hands on our water has back fired.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 10:26 PM

    heh he won’t be going next year, and thats for f****ing sure. he’s just biding his time and so are IW. they might as well put it to our head, we ain’t paying it. many will but many more won’t. it will be more than those without tv licence and will cost them lots more to grab it.

    Here’s my money IW, come and get it but you’re going to have to fight for it, very very hard.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 2:09 PM

    What a joke all the Starving and Homeless in this World they should all be ashamed of themselves they should be made give a Charity a Donation Annually

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    Jan 21st 2015, 3:06 PM

    What is it all about? Let me see……..a damn fine luxury long week-end for all concerned. A chance for big business movers and shakers to lobby and influence shitty little politicians (to the detriment of their electorates), a chance for big business movers and shakers to head off any possibility of reforms which might impinge on their profits, oh and a chance for the same shitty politicians to net-work and set up lucrative job opportunities, non-executive directorships, seats on boards etc., etc., for the future. Got to keep the wolf from the door somehow.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 4:08 PM

    Yeah,travel across the world at the peoples expense,and afraid to cross the road to chat to Vincent Brown, oh sure its just ordinary people in the audience, can’t lick their arses as most of them can’t afford to buy toilet roll.

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    Mute Stephen Fagan
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    Jan 21st 2015, 4:20 PM

    Politics serves money and profit. That’s it. We need a massive change. Let’s not let these people represent us any more.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 6:55 PM

    If ever a giant sink hole was needed..

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    Jan 21st 2015, 6:30 PM

    It’s about Agenda 21 and the enslavement of the majority of the world’s population. Enda Kenny doesn’t care about you or your family…..

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    Jan 21st 2015, 6:43 PM

    Nothing enslaves people like debt?

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    Mute Paul O Mahony
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    Jan 21st 2015, 4:38 PM

    This is a lovely chance for the owners of our countries to tell the people that get voted into power in our “democracies” what they will be doing for their real bosses in the next year. How long more are we going to have to put up with this sham system run by liars and thieves ?

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    Jan 21st 2015, 7:07 PM

    Hope Denis and his PA/Taoiseach have a great time.

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    Mute Michael Sands
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    Jan 21st 2015, 6:42 PM

    Making the 1% even richer?

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    Jan 21st 2015, 2:05 PM

    45 years a waffle boot camp!

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    Jan 21st 2015, 5:51 PM

    To anyone who’s taken the time and interest to comment here. Please research the Bilderberg Society. Will give an insight into how democracy is being circumvented.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 6:52 PM

    Is the Irish contingency taking OUR private jet? To the best of my knowledge ( and I could be wrong) CS are supposed to travel on the cheapest transport possible. Just an observation .

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    Jan 21st 2015, 8:47 PM

    Are you awake fgaelers? Are you awake Ireland? How much is it going to cost us? Hope this fake gets his pink slip as soon as and o Brien routed out like the rat he is.proof o brien has alterior motives when trying to attack Gerry and sf

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    Jan 21st 2015, 7:25 PM

    First item on the agenda, how do we bridge the gap between rich and mega rich.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 1:52 PM

    Good to see Enda representing the Irish people with distinction. The forum provides a valuable opportunity to attract more foreign investment to Ireland. Its essential for our Taoiseach to be present.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 2:41 PM

    He he he he

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    Jan 21st 2015, 3:37 PM

    Masterful satire, kudos.

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    Mute Tom
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    Jan 21st 2015, 5:15 PM

    How dare you not blame Enda Kenny /Angela Merkel/the Brits/the prods/the Jews/the Blacks or the Catholic Church for your place in society.

    It’s almost as if you don’t know thejournal.ie etiquette.

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    Mute Dermot Mc Loughlin
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    Jan 21st 2015, 6:35 PM

    Who do you blame Tom?
    Fianna fail?

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    Jan 21st 2015, 7:20 PM

    Individuals are responsible for their own place in the world. Circumstance and bad luck and temporary. Personally I have no one to blame as I have very little to be upset about. I made it my mission to get a better job and was determined to do so, while others were crying about employment prospects.

    I think (I could be wrong) that we engaged about this about 2 years ago. I suggested that we should check in in a couple of years. I’ve since changed jobs and got promoted.

    You were in scaffolding, right? What are you doing now?

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    Jan 21st 2015, 8:42 PM

    Still scaffolding Tom, I done a jobbridge a while ago when scaffolding wasn’t going to good, computer sales, maintenance and repairs…I was hoping to get into IT but done my nine months, got thanked, let go and now back annoying foreman for the start.
    Renewed the ticket and safe pass this week.
    Promotion eh?
    Nice one.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 2:55 PM

    I hope they all make it back safe and sound

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    Mute Tom
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    Jan 21st 2015, 6:43 PM

    Interesting point Hanz but where you see it most is places which nominally put people first like Cuba. Cuba is a nice place…but on one level it’s a grade A shit hole.
    By contrast European countries and even the USA are doing a balancing act between incentivised liberal economic policies and base levels to support the lowest in society. When You Tell An American that you get 1680 eurs (2000 usd) a year for having kids, most don’t believe you. Some ask how can there be poverty and some see it as an inevitable consequence.
    Avoid the internet as you’ll get idiots who think of liberal economics in comic book terms. All is not bad with capitalism and this can be seen by the general influx of people to the USA.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 9:55 PM

    The love between Enda Kenny and DenisO’Brien is a pure love, a decent love, not based on money, power or favour.

    It is an altruistic love born out of integrity, principle and love of their fellow humanity.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 11:00 PM

    Thanks Anthony I needed a good laugh before heading to bed!

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    Jan 21st 2015, 5:42 PM

    Join FG or FF!

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    Mute Mark O'Hagan
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    Jan 22nd 2015, 12:57 AM

    Enda will be touting for foreign investment to come to Ireland and Denis O’Brien will probably be letting people know how to become non-resident for tax purposes.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 5:01 PM

    This will really piss a lot of people off but sometimes the truth does that.
    1. The number of people living in absolute poverty worldwide effectively halved from 2 billion to 1 billion between 1990 and 2014
    2. 99.9% of people living in western Europe have better sanitation and health care available than the top 0.01% had 100 years previously.
    3. The cost of foreign travel is approximately 1% of its cost only 50 years ago when measured in terms of % of average earnings.
    4. If you do not have internet access, you are officially classed as poor by the ESRI irrespective of your wealth. Many older (conventionally wealthy) people are officially poor.
    5. Bill Gates has contributed more to AIDS research than every country in Africa combined. ..and multiplied by 10.
    6. Tuberculosis has been eradicated in virtually every western country.
    7. Average Life expectancy has gone up over 20 years in the 80 years.
    8. Only half of Irish homes had indoor plumbing in 1956.

    All these horrible things have happened during capitalism.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 5:58 PM

    Fair enough on the facts. Some pretty interesting ones there. But capitalism still puts money ahead of all other factors. Why can’t our attitude be faced towards human interaction and dealing with the quality of life. The world can be run in a beneficial way where we are not destroying the planet through exploitation of natural resources that big businesses make money off. Countries invade countries for oil under guises that they are solidifying the peace, and it’s all in the name of money, and shipping it to the top. Why does someone deserve this amount of money? The idea of ‘ I earned this money myself ‘ cannot be used in an argument. Money is there throughout generations for a successful family and THESE are the people who are saying capitalism work. Try it out at the bottom where you are born into an environment where your attitude is moulded from a young age to take the wrong path in life, and tell them that capitalism works.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 6:54 PM

    “Why does someone deserve this amount of money?” is an interesting question and one for philosophers greater than myself.
    However what you should ask is “What kinds of countries or societies produce the greatest wealth across the greatest number of its inhabitants?” That is the reason why people row in home made rafts from Cuba, which is a shite hole to the USA.
    As regards being born at the bottom, while I wasn’t born at the bottom, I was definitely born into what is euphemistically called “modest circumstances.” The reality is that everybody in Ireland from a council house to a mansion has tremendous opportunity. I feel sorry for the kids of negative people who make them feel like that haven’t a hope or those who pay too much attention to SF and the likes who try to convince them that some socialist utopia exists.

    That’s why socialists hate thelikes of me…precise because I don’t come from privilege.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 9:22 PM

    Tom the world is going backwards now. No health care unless you can pay for it. Wages stagnant since the 70′s. No real unions anymore to represent workers. Hope you enjoy your free market fairy tale and FOX news cheerleaders, fact is the USA and Capitalism are in decay people are waking up.
    Inequality has caused revolution throughout history There has not been such a large gap in earnings or in the distribution of wealth since the great depression.
    I have no doubt things will improve despite capitalism not because of it.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 10:59 PM

    Hi Tom want to add on the suicide rates and there increases?

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    Jan 21st 2015, 9:06 PM

    David Icke’s Lizards, all in one place. Lol

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    Jan 21st 2015, 11:20 PM

    If you want a conspiracy theory, then look no further that Christine Lagarde and her broach as it looks like 666, she wore one like it the last time she was here to. She is a character… lol.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 1:18 AM

    One small country for sale to the highest bidders .

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 10:26 AM

    Kenny in the pic the moment he stabbed every Irish person in the back and hing us out to dry. I for one will never forget this or forgive it. Traitor to the core.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 12:03 AM

    Its called BILDERBERG

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    Jan 21st 2015, 11:15 PM

    What do they mean Prince Andrew at Davos in 2008, he is there now busy hosting, hosting what is on everyone’s thoughts now, lol.

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