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Warning for borrowers in arrears: Don't let fear get in the way of saving your home

Experts say anxiety and a lack of information provided to people struggling with debt can lead them to making decisions that will worsen their situation.

THERE ARE 76,422 home mortgage accounts in arrears in Ireland.

Though these numbers are falling slightly every quarter, the number of people in arrears for more than a year is still over 41,000 and the average amounts for those in arrears over two years has risen from €66,000 to €74,000 in the Central Bank’s most recent review.

Experts say the lack of information and support provided to customers in financial difficulty can cause stress and worry that leads to a reluctance to engage in the process at all. By failing to take action early, mortgage holders can make their situations significantly worse and experts are encouraging anyone having trouble paying their debts to seek help.

‘Appealing in the dark’

Paul Joyce, an analyst at the Free Legal Advice Centre (Flac), said the Central Bank’s code of conduct on mortgage arrears has helped put in place a better system for dealing with defaulting, as it requires the lender to make contact with the borrow within a month of arrears occurring and engage in the resolution process.

As part of this process, a standard financial statement is sent to the borrower to fill out to assess whether alternative arrangements can be put in place. The code requires the bank to carry out an assessment of the full circumstances of the borrower, including personal circumstances, previous repayment history and unsecured debts like Credit Union loans.

This is where the difficulty can begin, Joyce said, as some people do not understand the importance of filling out this statement. Even when they do, the bank is only obliged to carry out an assessment, it is not obliged to offer a new arrangement.

“Assessments have not been as thorough as perhaps the code intends,” Joyce said. “Certainly in our experience, with those five criteria, I have seen correspondence from lenders saying ‘we’ve decided not to offer you an arrangement based on an assessment of your full circumstance under the following five headings’ – and nothing more, no other information.”

“Now, you have the right to appeal, but when asked for evidence of how they documented each of the alternative arrangements and how they considered them in light of those criteria, there is little information forthcoming – you’re appealing it in the dark.”

Appeal figures suggest few people choose to take that route anyway. Joyce said some customers may just assume their lender has properly assessed the situation and given them a fair response, others simply don’t know what to do next or begin to lose hope.

‘Topping up bills’

Further along in the process, issues arise if a borrower fails to meet the terms of the arrangement they made with the bank. According to the Central Bank, at the end of March this year, 87% of restructured primary home accounts were deemed to be meeting the terms of their arrangement – that means 13% were not.

The Central Bank said this inability to meet the terms of the arrangement “implies that the restructure agreement put in place may not have been suitable”.

Joyce said he has seen people exited from their arrangement because they did not meet a deadline by just a couple of days. “Suddenly you’re out of the process completely,” he said.

“Maybe for the lender, it’s a mathematical world where, if offered x, you deliver x, but you’ve grocery bills, utility bills and peaks and troughs occur, like a child getting sick and you’ve to go to a GP.

Because you just can’t deliver at that particular time, you’re out of the mortgage arrears resolution process (Marp). It seems to be the rules were drafted by people who don’t have financial problems, they see life as having logic and certainty all the time. When you go to the post office, you see people in working class areas – they don’t pay bills in full, they say ‘take 20 off that and 10 off that’ and keep their bills topped up. Most borrowers are genuine and don’t necessarily understand they can’t do that.

Joyce said there are a lot of misconceptions about people who default on their debts.

“There is an assumption that people who have lots of financial difficulties are pretty relaxed about it – that’s not our experience with it. When you get a letter among other letters, it can be hard to be able to isolate the significance of it. For people who are over-indebted, it’s constant stress and pressure.”

That may have caused a number of people to hide away in the hope that things would go away, which they generally don’t.

Arrears support units in banks can sometimes present a barrier for anxious customer too. “I’ve spoken to people who could never talk to the same person twice in the unit, so Kevin might seem reasonably nice on the phone and next time you call you look for Kevin, but he’s not available and you have to start all over again with someone else. There is a sense for a lot of people that the staff are programmed to operate in a certain way.”

Joyce said some people would be more likely to come forward if they were dealing face-to-face with people they already knew in their local branch.

And while most people will react quickly when they get a civil bill for possession in their door, others will panic, he said, and think “head in the sand.”

‘Two sides to every story’

Byron Jenkins, who runs The Hub Ireland, a free service offering support to anyone with mortgage issues, urges anyone facing court action from their lender to show their face in the courtroom.

“Effectively the rules say that if you don’t turn up on three occasions then a possession order can be put in place. This is classed as “on consent” and can not be appealed at a later date,” he said.

“If you turn up and put in an appearance and an affidavit the registrar cannot put a possession order in the house, it becomes a contested case and the registrar becomes the gatekeeper: she has to make sure the paperwork is in order before you go to the judge’s list.”

He advised borrowers to remember there are “two sides to every story and you get a chance to put your side of the story across”.

“Turning up allows you to tell the court what the bank has not done to help your situation. Did they offer you a different product, reduced payment or moratorium? If you defend your case and show the bank did not follow the Mabs (Money Advice and Budgeting Service) process, the registrar is quite within her powers to make an order in favour of the defendants.”

Joyce reminded borrowers that if they are brought to court, they can get an adjournment to go to a personal insolvency practitioner.

This can be done through the government’s Abhaile scheme, which has been in operation for a year. It also offers free financial and legal advice for people who are struggling. Over 4,000 households in mortgage arrears have received support from this service in the last 12 months.

Though this scheme has been a welcome support, Joyce said the Central Bank figures demonstrate a need for a more substantial intervention from the government. He suggested a mortgage rescheduling tribunal to hear appeals from borrowers who are unhappy with the outcome of the resolution process. It would have the power to impose its own decision on the parties, including write-down where appropriate.

But he said the most important thing for borrowers experiencing financial difficulties right now to remember is that “it’s never too late”.

If you’re having trouble paying your mortgage, you can contact the Money Advice and Budgeting Service (Mabs) on 0761 07 2000 or through its website.

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    Oct 6th 2013, 6:34 PM

    Just the mention of a debate gives poor Enda nightmares. Go for it.

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    Oct 6th 2013, 6:29 PM

    ‘Reform Alliance’ Ironic in that they are the most conservative ‘party’ in the Dail.

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    Oct 6th 2013, 7:35 PM

    It’s only hot air nothing will happen

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    Oct 6th 2013, 6:42 PM

    Is this the start of a New Political Party…I think we will have to watch this space…the time maybe right.

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    Oct 6th 2013, 6:49 PM

    Mmm, yes. The time for a right wing, reactionary, religious fundamentalist party. Just what Ireland needs at the moment.

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    Oct 6th 2013, 6:56 PM

    Fiona, in any political party you have various different views but they are all whipped together for party reasons,,imagine if we had a political party that was open and honest and let each member express their own views while still representing the general will of the people…..open and transparent with no hidden agendas or Spin . No FG, no FF just people representing people.

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    Oct 6th 2013, 6:59 PM

    What you describe there are called independents Shane. We already have quite a few.

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    Oct 6th 2013, 7:03 PM

    Why join a political party in the first place if you refuse to follow their policies? The whip system ensures that business is actually attended to, don’t like it then leave and run as an independent. These people want to have their cake and eat it too.

    You want rampant gombeen politics, populism and nothing ever getting done and decided on because the individuals TDs are too terrified to defy their voter base? Than yeah, no whip system is good.

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    Oct 6th 2013, 7:06 PM

    Could you imagine a government of independents? On second thoughs I’d rather not.

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    Oct 6th 2013, 7:18 PM

    Our choices..FG they have done the nation proud so far…FF they did the nation proud in the past…SF I won’t even comment.We need to move away from the gombeen civil war politics that we have ,move people away from voting for political parties because their father and grandfather voted for. Ppl like Shane Ross and Stephen Donnelly are lost in a Dail the works the way it is…because they have no say even if they had the most wonderful idea in the world it’s just not going to happen!

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    Oct 6th 2013, 7:23 PM

    Fianna Fail did the nation proud Shane? Well not in my lifetime. They’ve bankrupted the country three times since I was born and I’m not even fifty yet. I will never vote for Fianna Fail. Populist morons.

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    Oct 6th 2013, 7:27 PM

    Reg…I think you missed the sarcasm in that …I wouldn’t quench one of them if they were on fire…and that’s being polite..

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    Oct 6th 2013, 7:28 PM

    Good to hear Shane!

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    Oct 6th 2013, 8:54 PM

    Economically for a free market but with a strong social conscious.

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    The national doctors strike not that important to the Reform group so!!!…..

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    Oct 6th 2013, 7:11 PM

    Lucinda must be delighted that her husband has a good chance of keeping his job after the next election. Not sure about her chances though!

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    Oct 6th 2013, 6:50 PM

    The wicked witch isn’t gone
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    Oct 6th 2013, 6:52 PM

    Can we have a Debate about Abortion while were at it ?

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    Oct 6th 2013, 9:24 PM

    That and the gay rights! It’s amazing how they keep ignoring the questions we’ve been asking for decades!

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    Oct 6th 2013, 6:58 PM

    Won’t be long before they REFORM back into FG

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    Oct 6th 2013, 7:08 PM

    Not for most of them now. They’ve burnt their bridges I think.

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    Oct 6th 2013, 6:54 PM

    New political grouping, Shiite, anything to protect the Blueshirts.

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    Oct 6th 2013, 8:51 PM

    Reform alliance , how about reject alliance . Nobody cares what ye want or say.

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    Oct 6th 2013, 7:29 PM

    Ffs… Didn’t we just spend enough time on this with a referendum. Move on people. There’s plenty of other crap in this country that needs attention….
    Politicians really get my goat!

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    Oct 6th 2013, 8:48 PM

    No to an entirely directly elected Seanád. If you do the same former GAA stars, FF rejects and the ilk will be put in. It should be a series of panels such as education, nominated and elected by Teaching Council, NCCA etc… Business Leaders voted in by IBEC, that small businesses thing, Arts and culture panel etc… this would take time to tease out, but would better lend it self to our upper house.

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    Oct 6th 2013, 9:01 PM

    No to any more representation of the teaching profession. It’s enough our mini-cabinet is 75% defunct teacher.

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    Oct 6th 2013, 9:22 PM

    I’d disagree with the idea of giving anyone a vote on the basis of their associations or what they work as. I also think it’s a cryin’ shame that in this day and age we still have to debate whether or not one man – one vote is the right system.

    I would say a directly elected house, with longer terms, but smaller overall size. The yanks do this with their senate on the basis that it lends itself to less of a partisan fight and a more of a thoughtful debate. That’s the way a second house should be.

    (Or maybe even make it a house composed solely of independents? They are pretty much useless in the dáil as it stands, and it’d be a good balance to party politics, unless I’m missing the stupid part of the idea!)

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    Oct 6th 2013, 8:44 PM

    Reform ? Membership of a political party should exempt Seanad membership. That’s a good start. If that’s too far reaching – then membership of Dail for 3 previous administrations.

    We need Dail reform and accountability at many levels including politicians and CS.

    Seanad has no power – either before or after the vote. I voted to get rid as it had little impact.

    Time to dissolve Dail & Seanad and start again.

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    Oct 6th 2013, 9:26 PM

    I’d give Lucinda one :) I’m no snob !

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    Oct 6th 2013, 7:25 PM

    Hey Loose-Cinders, back a horse that might win and forget about the current no. 1 hit single “we want reform of the Seanad” as it will be gone by next month and some other populist folly with be ‘idea du jour’

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    Oct 6th 2013, 9:14 PM

    If we got this, power of recall to both houses and the ability to call in referenda with 75,000 signatures whenever we like, we’d have (dare I say it?) a pretty good system on our hands.

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