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One killed and 19 injured after vehicle hits counter-demonstrators at white supremacist rally in Virginia

There were violent altercations today in the small city as demonstrators and counter-demonstrators clashed.

Updated at 7.09pm

ONE PERSON HAS been killed and 19 injured after a vehicle plowed through a group of counter-protesters today following a white nationalist demonstration in the small city of Charlottesville in the US state of Virginia.

The Charlottesville City‏ Twitter account confirmed that one person had died in the incident.

City mayor Mike Signer said he was “heartbroken” at the loss of life.

“I am heartbroken that a life has been lost here. I urge all people of good will–go home,” the mayor tweeted.

Earlier, police broke up the demonstration after a number of violent altercations took place.

Missiles were thrown and crowds clashed at various points throughout the day.

Thousands of white nationalists, including supporters of the Ku Klux Klan white supremacist group, and anti-fascist activists were expected to turn out in Charlottesville, a sleepy town planning to remove a statue of General Robert E. Lee, who led Confederate forces in the US Civil War.

Footage emerged earlier of militias arriving in the city, and scuffles breaking out between protesters and counter-demonstrators.

(If you can’t watch the video click here)

US president Donald Trump tweeted that that people must unite and condemn “all that hate stands for”.

“We ALL must be united & condemn all that hate stands for. There is no place for this kind of violence in America. Lets come together as one!” The president said.

Violence 

There were a number of instances of violence in the city this afternoon, with police dispersing the crowd following clashes.

Footage shot by NBC News producer Craig Stanley shows groups of armed men in camouflage descending on the town.

Other footage shows people clashing in the town, with violence breaking out among protesters and counter-demonstrators.

(If you can’t view the video click here)

Last night, a large group of torch-bearing white nationalists marched through the University of Virginia campus.

There were reports of violence breaking out between them and counter-demonstrators.

The National Guard was put on alert because of the risk of violence during the “Unite the Right” rally, which is due to kick off at 12 noon local time (5pm Irish time).

United States: The 'Unite the Right' rally in Charlottesville White supremacists take part a the night before the 'Unite the Right' rally in Charlottesville. AP / Zach D Roberts/NurPhoto AP / Zach D Roberts/NurPhoto / Zach D Roberts/NurPhoto

Warning to stay away

Last night, Virginia’s governor urged people to stay away from the planned rally.

“I want to urge my fellow Virginians who may consider joining either in support or opposition to the planned rally to make alternative plans,” Governor Terry McAuliffe said in a statement.

McAuliffe, a Democrat, said many of the people at the rally will “express viewpoints many people, including me, find abhorrent. As long as that expression is peaceful, that is their right.”

He said he had given security forces instructions to act quickly and decisively if violence breaks out.

Units of the Virginia National Guard will be placed on stand-by, he added.

On 8 July a few dozen Ku Klux Klan marchers gathered in Charlottesville to protest plans to remove the statue of Lee. But they were outnumbered by hundreds of jeering counter protesters.

This time the extreme right hopes to have a stronger showing thanks to the presence of various leaders of the “alt-right” movement that has been emboldened by Donald Trump’s ascent to the White House.

With © AFP 2017

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    Aug 12th 2017, 4:42 PM

    Somebody needs to sit the white supremacist illiterati down explain to them that racism is merely ignorance of the fact that we are all of African lineage. In effect, racism is redundant as there is only one actual race, and it is known as the human race.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 4:55 PM

    @Frank Cooney:
    The one that says “our victory will be the laughter of our children”? Explain the far right message there?

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:01 PM

    @Stephen Coveney: Ignore ‘frank’ Stephen, it’s one of the half dozen or so accounts that pounces on my posts to try to turn the thread into a mud slinging match about the troubles/6 counties and so on.

    Probably doesn’t realise that in the scenario he mentions Bobby Sands was one of the community persecuted by Ireland’s own version of far right supremacists. Silly boy.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:09 PM

    @Frank Cooney: ? bobby sands has nothing to do with your point/argument,bit of respect sir!

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:10 PM

    @The Risen: agree

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:26 PM

    @Frank Cooney: what figure did he say should be erased? You were the one that brought up the entire idea of erasing people just to have a go.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:26 PM

    @The Risen: do you’ve any response to the legitimate points being put to you or is your default position just to attack anyone who even dares put questions to you?

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:36 PM

    @Frank Cooney:
    What are you on about? the commentator was on about “right wing”, you injected something about bobby sands, i stated that his messages really wasnt right wing.
    Fair play for running off with your own argument.

    But to address your alt right bull$hit, yes if someone is arguing for discrimination id say dont let them speak (ive interjected discrimination here because as usual you state vague useless sentences that are open ended)

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:36 PM

    @Frank Cooney: Just because your KKK buddies are rioting doesn’t mean you get to deflect, we’re still waiting for you to condemn this racist violence.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:37 PM

    @Frank Cooney:
    “I was having a go at the idea of erasing history to fit some narrative”

    Exactly what Poland are doing but you think that is something different. History and what statues come with it are not necessarily positive!!

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:43 PM

    @Frank Cooney:
    “If you have ever seen my posts ”
    hahaha ive never seen an idiot actually point out he’s an idiot. You have a fake account, you will move onto another fake account in the next few months so no, we cant see a history of your posts.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:53 PM

    @Frank Cooney: Catholic isn’t a race, it’s just a poor life choice. Now are you going to condemn this white supremacist violence or not?

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:03 PM

    @Frank Cooney: We’ve never had a debate Frank, you’ve just always been wrong.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:05 PM

    @Frank Cooney:
    sorry if im coming across aggressive but im trying to understand that
    1.you dont want a societal narrative erasing history?
    2. im saying that there is a time when his is justified.
    3. it doesnt matter if black, white asian people want to keep something. Society moves forwards and tries to correct issues that need addresses.
    Am i getting that right from you? You have to clearly line out the point your making

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:08 PM

    @Frank Cooney:
    “We had our own civil war here”
    i think thats a unrelated issue as the two factions here were not fighting about something that has progressed to be a human right. in other words, statues of Micheal Collins is a lot different than someone who promoted a regime that endorsed slavery

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:16 PM

    @Frank Cooney: that’s his passive aggressive natural response. He doesn’t reply when he is wrong. And he is always wrong. He only replies with an insult. Or he will report your comment as he is also a snowflake.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:30 PM

    @Hurt Stoogie: It appears that the term “Godwinsism” may need to be expanded.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:51 PM

    @Frank Cooney: mea culpa,got it wrong,but still what happened in 81 is Rae to a lot of my generation

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:52 PM

    @Frank Cooney: what a pointless comment.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:53 PM

    @Frank Cooney: considering there were no Black’ ppl in Ireland them not surprised

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    Aug 12th 2017, 7:06 PM

    @Frank Cooney: nice return,take up the ould tennis.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 7:09 PM

    @Frank Cooney:
    1. no one is re-writing history! certain statues are being removed. History is still there but glorying him is not.
    2. “2) There is a time when it is justified , for example if it was imposed on the local population by an invader , i.e statues of Hitler , Stalin or Lenin .”

    THATS your opinion. A broader group of people have decided that this statue should be removed. thats it. decision made..or are you just complaining because a decision went against you (and still havent heard a good reason why)

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    Aug 12th 2017, 7:28 PM

    @Frank Cooney: you really do go off on a tangent. Your whole Saturday consumed bitching with people you’ll never meet. Madness

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    Aug 12th 2017, 7:37 PM

    @The Risen: Pity then that you support the Provisional IRA, a sectarian death squad which murdered people based on their religion.

    Hypocrisy much, Shinnerbot?

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    Aug 12th 2017, 8:06 PM

    @Diarmuid: never knew they targeted British soldiers because of their religion?

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    Aug 12th 2017, 8:49 PM

    @Diarmuid: I’ll start by saying I deplore the targeting of civilians for political gain and follow it up by saying that people in the north weren’t targeted because of their faith, it was a way to differentiate but it wasn’t the reason. I’ll finish by saying there is never a good reason to kill someone.

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    Aug 13th 2017, 11:03 AM

    @John003: What about the children of the millions killed by the British? All you loyalists conveniently forget that little detail.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 4:41 PM

    Something like was inevitable with Trump in the White House.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:25 PM

    @Peter Higgins: sort of how the election of Barack Obama legitimized black supremacist groups like Black Lives Matter.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:30 PM

    @Chris M.: You folks still trying to compare BLM to the KKK, nazis and white supremacist militias armed with assault rifles?

    Wow…just wow!

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:32 PM

    @Bryan Kelly: BLM believe black lives are more important than All Lives, the very definition of racial supremacisim.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:38 PM

    @Chris M.: *supremacy. Trump supporters and their awful grammar.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:38 PM

    @Chris M.: Keep telling yourself that. Coz they sure don’t say it. Let’s see if we can figure out who does say one group of lives are more important than others…oh yeah, that’d be the KKK, nazis and white supremacist militias that this article is about but you can’t write a single line to condemn coz you got such a hard on for violent, racist white groups. Have BLM lynched any white people? No. Have they formed heavily armed militias? No. Just admit you hate black people and love white supremacists.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:43 PM

    @Atheos Euripides: *awfull grammor

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    @Liam flag: Covfefe bigly!

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:59 PM

    @Atheos Euripides: Them’s fightin’ words son.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:12 PM

    @Chris M.:
    you seem to have issues chris. stop reading infowars and try to get out more.

    ” sort of how the election of Barack Obama legitimized black supremacist groups like Black Lives Matter”
    PLEASE explain your reasoning behind this? And if its just “well he’s black too” you might as well get your new account ready…

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:52 PM

    @Chris M.: troll.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 7:00 PM

    @Chris M.: ” BLM believe black lives are more important than All Lives, the very definition of racial supremacisim.”

    I would love to see your source in which they state that Chris .Have you got a credible one that I could have a sconce at ? Good lad..

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    Aug 12th 2017, 7:38 PM

    Our resident Al-Right Trumpian fanboys must be reeeeal angry about all this.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 7:43 PM

    @Bryan Kelly: i know who will kill more people this year

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    Aug 12th 2017, 7:53 PM

    @Bryan Kelly: they shot a number of police officers in Dallas.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 9:01 PM

    @Alan Moore: did they? Or did the police say afterwards that they weren’t a part of BLM? He was a member of AADL though.

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    Aug 13th 2017, 12:34 PM

    @Peter Higgins: logically it was far more likely with HRC in The White House. Doesn’t take much to figure it out.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 4:44 PM

    Removing statues can be dangerous. Robert E Lee is a Confederate hero. Possibly more care could have been taken before this decision was made. This has echoes to me of the “Glasnevin Wall” controversary.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 4:56 PM

    @hallelujah:
    Why is it dangerous to remove structures that stand for something the country does not believe in. Poland are removing memorials of the oppressive Soviet regime. Is that wrong?

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:28 PM

    @hallelujah: destroying historical monuments is the essence of Orwells 1984.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:30 PM

    @Frank Cooney:
    my main point you seemed to miss. Why celebrate a regime that suppported something that has been shown to be disgraceful

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:32 PM

    @Chris M.: And a 1984 reference. This is what happens when all your info comes from Breitbart and Stormfront, you’re all so predictable. Care to elaborate on your literary comparison? MLA format will be required.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:25 PM

    @Stephen Coveney: Robert Lee was a United States General that sided with the losing side in a Civil War this is fact not fiction. There are statues too of that genocidal maniac General Grant and yet another butcher of civilians Gen Sherman. Removing Lee’s statue won’t heal anything nor did burying the US Military on Robert Lee’s land in Arlington diminish the mans place in history. As usual in history the only heroes seem to be on the winning side or so goes the populist narrative. Those who study history know this mans place in it.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:37 PM

    @Austin Rock:
    with all you rambling you still missed the point. Di Lee fight on the side of people who wanted slavery? Cause the rest of your comment is just nonsense

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    Aug 12th 2017, 7:21 PM

    @Frank Cooney:
    WHO cares!!! all of it was wrong!! what is your point? you seem to want to have this “well that crowd were just as bad”…..i’ll sy this slowly cause you’re not getting it. I dont like people who fought for the idea that its ok to own people..

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    Aug 12th 2017, 7:30 PM

    @Chris M.: Ugh. Why does everyone feel they need to misrepresent Orwell all the time, as if it were their job?

    Orwell fought on the republican/communist side of the Spanish civil war against fascists, he was hardly going to be sympathetic to the generals fighting to keep slavery alive in the USA.

    Especially seeing as in 1984, the novel you so glibly refer to, The Party shoved “freedom is slavery” down the throats of the populace. Orwell hated Stalinist Russia because of the slavery it inflicted on its people. Do you think he would have stood up for a monument of a general fighting for the human slave industry?

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    Aug 12th 2017, 7:45 PM

    @hallelujah: Lee didn’t join the confederates because he was a white supremacist, he did so because he was believer of the of the self determination of individual states within the union. To him his loyalty lay with Viginia first and the Union second.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 10:52 PM

    @Darren Tully: “Give me liberty or death” said Robert E Lee. At the time he owned 36 slaves. That’s an oxymoron all. Take his statue down and break it into really small pieces.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 4:41 PM

    A white supremacist march? How is that even allowed? Undoubtedly all the facists will claim its freedom of speech.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 4:59 PM

    @Coner Willis: Agreed, but where did this term “white nationalist” come from? Whites are a nation?

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:03 PM

    @Cat Agatha: Nationalist seems to be another way of saying anti-immigrant these days.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:10 PM

    @Coner Willis: not true,and glad you said”seems”

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:12 PM

    @Coner Willis: That’s a nativist. White nationalism in this context i guess is about building a nation of white people within the United States. Separation of races, segregation again, maybe even attempts at repatriation. A nice cheery bunch of people so!

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:16 PM

    @billy Dorney: Do enlighten me.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:23 PM

    @Coner Willis: they’re all immigrants or descendants of immigrants

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:29 PM

    @Coner Willis: just because it differs from your opinion doesn’t mean they cant express their views. Abhorrent as they may be.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 11:44 PM

    @Coner Willis: totally?!! Shouldn’t it be down as incitement to hatred/ open racism. I’m surprised too this can still happen. Free speech gone mad

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    Aug 12th 2017, 4:49 PM

    Love to see Americans going to war with one another instead of traveling overseas.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:33 PM

    @Dave Hogan: This is what happens when the Alt-Right racists get into power, America is finished.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:06 PM

    @Atheos Euripides: Jared Kushner is so alt right. Big nazi head on him.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 4:54 PM

    Hey “alt right” lads on here, your mates called they said “hold my beer”.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 7:27 PM

    @Deborah Behan: It looks like the white supremacists have plowed a vehicle into a group of protestors, looks like the Alt-Right are learning some tricks from their fellow Ultra Nationalists in ISIS.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 7:28 PM

    @Deborah Behan: breaking news;
    Car plows into dozens of protesters at far-right rally, extremely serious injuries –RT correspondent https://www.rt.com/usa/399430-car-plows-through-protesters-virginia/

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    Aug 12th 2017, 7:38 PM

    @Atheos Euripides: Nazi terrorists back again.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 7:42 PM

    @DaisyChainsaw: Indeed, disgusting seeing the resident Alt-Right Neo-Nazi trolls defending these racists.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 8:24 PM

    @Atheos Euripides: They suffer from some mental disorder so not their fault. Pity you were not as equal or aggressive in your condemnation of the similar Nice, German and London atrocities. Hypocrite much. So no cred as you are just another gobshyte.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 9:05 PM

    @gregory: slight correction, the car plowed into counter protestors

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    Aug 12th 2017, 10:33 PM

    @neilo: That’s what u hobbits do all the time… Whataboutery…. This is about consistency and your hypocracy.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 11:34 PM

    @Warthog: How do you know I wasn’t? You’re just bitter because the animals you support are finally being shown up for the murdering racists they are.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 9:48 PM

    Race relations improved in the 80,s 90,s and 00,s. It was under Obama that they got worse. His wife Michelle never missed an opportunity to make her race an issue.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 10:19 PM

    @neilo: Compared to the 50,s 60,s and 70,s race relations improved in the next 3 decades. The worst race riots in American history where perpetrated by the Irish against African Americans you filthy ignoramus.

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    Aug 13th 2017, 1:56 AM

    @Joe Caulfield: perpetrated by the Irish. Can you explain?

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    Aug 13th 2017, 4:37 AM

    @Joe Caulfield: 80′s, 90′s and 00′s. Race riots, mandatory minimum sentencing, three strikes, 36 African American churchs burned down in 1995, the LA riots had twice the number of deaths as the Irish riot you’re referring to, there was the Miami riot, attempted voter ID laws

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    Aug 12th 2017, 4:47 PM

    Imagine if they were Muslims..

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    Aug 12th 2017, 4:57 PM

    @Lad:
    ok i am?

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:14 PM

    @Stephen Coveney: you’re alright. You’re a white man.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 9:27 PM

    @Lad: How about I imagine they are vegetarians, what’s your point? Do you have one?

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    Aug 12th 2017, 10:07 PM

    @Deborah Behan: Let me guess – you’re a woman, so you are oppressed?

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    Aug 12th 2017, 4:44 PM

    Steve Bannon with the biggest KKK hard on watching this.

    And Trump thinks he’s a great guy!!

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:12 PM

    The journal.ie sometimes drains me!

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:00 PM

    Misleading headline, it is an Alt right rally.they are not all white supremacists. In any case, the women’s march was glorified.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:18 PM

    @Bairéid Rísteard: easy to see where you stand.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:24 PM

    @Bairéid Rísteard: Alt-Right, White Supremacist, Neo-Nazi. These terms aren’t interchangeable, they are the same.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:56 PM

    @Deborah Behan: Is that supposed to be an insult? you sound like a typical self righteous, ‘tolerant’ leftist loon. Just some wisdom for you…In life, people will not always have the same opinion as you.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:59 PM

    @Atheos Euripides: Wrong, just shows how ignorant people can be. Do some actual research, and not what the biased msm tells you.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 7:08 PM

    @Bairéid Rísteard: I’ve done plenty of research and I get my news from a wide range of sources. You get it wrong once again.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 7:27 PM

    @Bairéid Rísteard: They were heiling all over the place with their “made in China” tiki torches (proper torches were too dangerous for the pwecious wittle snowflakes.). MAGAhead beta cucks angry with the world because they can’t get the shift due to being braindead racists. If they don’t get to put their rancid sperm in a white woman’s vajayjay they’re afraid their race will die off. The sooner the better, say I.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 8:39 PM

    @Atheos Euripides: Also, can equally be applied to that racist, bigoted, hateful and misogynist ideology that you love, Islam and who helped the Nazis in their final solution and who continue to this day to exhort their followers to murder Jews, apostates and non- believers (you). So GS like you and your lefty non democratic and not so liberal masters certainly have no moral conscience when it comes to those you support. In othet words “The End Justifies The Means”! You dare take the High Moral ground wrt these idiots in the USA, becsuse what you refuse to see is that you have been blinded by your own misguided righteous and that in reality you and kind are just the same as them!

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    Aug 12th 2017, 11:22 PM

    @neilo: You don’t get it do you. It’s not about the story that I am on about. It is the inconsistency of commentators on here and in the media when commentating on 2 similar events. One commited by Muslims the other committed by “White Supremacist” to me both are equally abhorrent and indefensible. Neither ate justifiable. But to the likes of the poster whom I was interacting with (and others) that is not the case. So, my point to spell it out for you is not about the STORY but about the Hypocracy of the poster and as a result anything he/she /they have to say has no credibility. Oh, Keep on reading the gibberings of those bloggers who nicely dovetail into your view of the world.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 11:50 PM

    @Bairéid Rísteard: wasn’t it actually a gathering of all members of the far right to say for once and for all that they have the same beliefs?

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    Aug 13th 2017, 12:10 AM

    @Warthog: You said yesterday that you recently converted to Islam.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:06 PM

    Looks like a lot of fat white middle-aged men armed up to their teeth! Although I’m sure I saw a Mexican in amongst them! You know what those sneaky Mexicans can be like. America is literally going down the toilet in front of the whole planet. It’s the end of an era for all to see. God no longer blesses America…

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:18 PM

    @Polly Dolan: Many people have said that in the last 100 years….All the Soviet union leaders for instance …Most of the African dictators like Mugabe ….Still many times more people want to get into the US than out of it….

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:16 PM

    @John003: are you supporting this?

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:40 PM

    @Polly Dolan:
    God no longer blesses America…

    really? you think Geo politics and global economics is left to a magic man?

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    Aug 12th 2017, 10:32 PM

    @Stephen Coveney: Sarcasm is “a sharp, bitter, or cutting expression or remark; a bitter gibe or taunt”

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:25 PM

    Trump should sort out his own problems at home first before he ruffles anyone else’s feathers .

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    Aug 12th 2017, 7:35 PM

    A dose of Ctrl-Alt-Right-Delete needed here. This is horrendous carry on. As for 45s statement? It’s not enough, his silence speaks volumes in my opinion.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 9:04 PM

    @Barbara Edwards: He doesn’t want to alienate his core racists.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 11:58 PM

    This is a joke, isn’t it? Gay can march whenever they want, protestants can march wherever they want, black can march also…. Seems everyone is in marching these days. I do not have any issue with that.
    I say let everyone march whoever wants to. The only problem with these marches arises only when someone is determined to stop any other group from “marching”. As far as I can see it was not white pot-bellied dudes creating the fuss but opposite side who attacked them.
    If you are so triggered with someone marching just march the other way instead of throwing stones.

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    Aug 13th 2017, 12:18 AM

    @Pat Patovic: Except your homophobic and racist buddies drove a car into a crowd of people, didn’t they?

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    Aug 13th 2017, 1:00 AM

    @Pat Patovic: Fascism should be fought at every turn, are our collective memories so short?

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    Aug 13th 2017, 2:07 AM

    @Atheos Euripides: Dude, calm down. First, I do not care who is marching as the whole idea of marching is pathetic no matter who does it. Secondly, many deranged individuals drove cars to many different groups of people. Sadly it happens all the time as people are simply stupid.

    My buddies? Sorry to disappoint you but I do not have buddies in US and I do have herd mentality like you – identify with some group and attack the other. That may be your modus operandi as you clearly demonstrate it time and again here.

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    Aug 13th 2017, 2:15 AM

    @ED: Correct, just not this way. They would be better fought if there would be nobody there watching them, heckling them or videoing them. If they would “march” through empty streets they would soon go back home or to nearest pub. In this case, however, they were eagerly awaited and met with their exact match. Alt right and alt left – there is no difference whatsoever. Stupid is as stupid does.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:44 PM

    Up went Nelson in the middle of the night..

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    Aug 12th 2017, 8:42 PM

    @DeFonz: and what did we get in exchange? The f@cking spire……

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    Aug 12th 2017, 9:31 PM

    @Kerry Blake: The spire is fantastic.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 10:30 PM

    @Ron North: No it’s not, apparently it is self cleaning has anyone told the spire that?

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    Aug 12th 2017, 11:59 PM

    @Kerry Blake: The Spire is actually Ireland’s nuclear missile, to be used in emergencies. Didn’t you know?

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    Aug 12th 2017, 9:26 PM

    This situation was down to bad Policing decisions. Under the US constitution freedom of speech and the right to demonstrate are sacrosanct. But neither side should have never been allowed anywhere near each other. And that is where bad Policing decisions come in. And if the local police felt they did not have enough personnel to cover both demonstrations they should have requested assistance from the State Police and if also required the National Guard. With sufficient numbers both sides could have corralled far enough away from each other yet still exercise their right to protest their particular views.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 10:33 PM

    @Mick Jordan: No, it was down to nazi filthbags.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 11:07 PM

    @DaisyChainsaw: Sorry but that is a lazy answer. As vile as their message is, it is their right to express it. Just as it is the right of the extreme left to express theirs. By attempting to prevent them speaking you become no better than them. It becomes different sides of the same coin One lets them have their say and one counters them not with bile and hatred trying shout the loudest, but with a rational and logical counter argument. Those who truly believe on either side will never be turned. But the majority of society will reject both.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 11:47 PM

    @Mick Jordan: They don’t have a right to run people over. The police can’t be everywhere

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    Aug 13th 2017, 12:06 AM

    @Mick Jordan: Who or what are the “extreme left” and what are their views that you are equating to the level of Nazism, white supremacy and racism of the rally organisers and participants. What would your rational and logical argument be to the white supremacists? I would think that the counter demonstration is coming from a place of emotion since the rally’s theme is basically lets kill everyone who isn’t white and Christian. I wouldn’t bargain on a logical conversation with these people since they have resorted to terrorism against the counter protesters and have plowed a car into them!

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    Aug 13th 2017, 2:38 AM

    @David McDermott: If the other demonstration was allowed nowhere near then nether side would have gotten so physically involved. Hence my original comment that it was a poor policing call.

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    Aug 13th 2017, 7:46 AM

    @Mick Jordan: “By attempting to prevent them speaking you become no better than them”…

    Nonsense, this notion of unrestricted free speech is a purely American value. Stopping people from uttering hate speech is not an evil on the same level as hate speech, racism, or Nazism, most countries believe its actually a positive thing.

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    Aug 13th 2017, 12:30 PM

    @David McDermott: David I don’t think that’s Micks point. There is no logical argument that can be put to neo nazis,you’re correct in that, but in the US they have a right to voice their horrible message. Police should have made this possible while keeping them corralled away from the other side. Even if the other side are the good guys in America freedom of speech is allowed in all its guises even when that speech is horrible. All people need to be protected. Who knows when those neo nazis mature a bit they may come to realise what idiots they actually are.

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    Aug 13th 2017, 1:53 PM

    @Ron North: It “is purely American value”. And where pray tell do you think this demonstration was taking place? In Stephens Green perhaps? Like it or loathe it, under the US Constitution they have the right to say what ever they please.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 10:02 PM

    Had an idea this fella would start a civil war, but I did not think that General Lee would still be involved. Scary times folks.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:42 PM

    Personally I would like to see the “Glasnevin Wall” moved to the British war cemetary or War memorial gardens. But this will probably not happen. So I hope Glasnevin authorities put 24 hour security in place.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:43 PM

    So tonight is the “night they tore ole Dixie down”..?

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:39 PM

    I have always thought that the statue of Nelson, on Nelson’s pillar in Dublin should have been removed by the city council or the Lemass government. Same way the city of New Orlean’s took away a confederate statue. If they did’nt want to do this- they should have put better security on it. Garret Fitzgerald removed a statue of Queen Victoria from Leinster house in the 80′s.
    Regarding the US, I think more consultation is needed before any more statues are taken down. Example a competition to decide what to do with them.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 11:45 PM

    @hallelujah: Or not removed at all

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    Aug 12th 2017, 9:23 PM

    Welcome to the war of identity politics. Insert the one of the following, Men, The Patriarchy, Black People, White people, Christian, Jew, Muslim, Left, Right, Fascist, Anti -fascist. Pick the group you hate, join your faction become an ideologue. Deny science, live with cognitive bias and cognitive dissonances. Meet on the streets.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 9:34 PM

    @John Mc Grath: Mime artists.

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    Aug 13th 2017, 12:12 AM

    @John Mc Grath: You consistently make the most sense out of all these commenters. You’re fućkìng woke man.

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    Aug 13th 2017, 3:04 AM

    @John Mc Grath: The thing I hate the most about identity politics is that reduces people’s individuality and makes arbitrary & superficial characteristics the most defining thing about an individual & then pits these groups against each other. Identity politics is the antithesis of liberal individualism.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 11:10 PM

    This is Trump’s legacy to the USA, making America disunited again

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    Aug 13th 2017, 12:03 AM

    @Gus Sheridan: BS, it has nothing to do with him. Racial tension in USA is a never-ending story escalating more and more over the time and he just inherited it. It seems you suffer from some trump-o-phobia.

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    Aug 13th 2017, 12:23 AM

    @Pat Patovic: When the KKK march without their hoods and can wear their MAGA hats instead, knowing they can be identified and not care, that’s because of Trump and his racist ways which have been documented for decades.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 6:44 PM

    I’ve been out enjoying the sunshine today. Please tell me it’s not all over and I’ve missed the pond life fighting.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 5:10 PM

    Can’t wait for the youtube videos

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    Aug 12th 2017, 7:02 PM

    @Pat1979: Anything ‘controversial’ is being censored now on youtube. Basically, any pointing out of facts, or criticism of leftist/ marxist ideology.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 7:30 PM

    @Bairéid Rísteard: Removing racist comments isn’t censorship, also it appears your tinfoil hat has slid off a little bit, be careful that the military industrial complex and the Marxists don’t find out your thoughts!

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    Aug 12th 2017, 9:21 PM

    @Atheos Euripides: Depends on your definition of racism doesn’t it.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 8:33 PM

    Reading the headline, I thought there was something happening in Cavan.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 8:44 PM

    @Brian Horton: nah, it’s just Trumps america flexing what they call muscle…..

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    Aug 12th 2017, 4:58 PM

    The ol hardware had a run on the garden lights, 2 fer 1

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    Aug 12th 2017, 10:04 PM

    The fascist ‘anti-fascists’ are incapable of leaving well alone. They have really stirred up the hornet’s nest now. The two groups fighting today are both sides of the same coin. They deserve one another.

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    Aug 13th 2017, 12:58 AM

    @neilo: you two deserve each other..

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    Aug 12th 2017, 9:07 PM

    KKK thugs vs BLM and Antifa thugs, they all deserve each other.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 9:04 PM

    Trumps America

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    Aug 12th 2017, 11:02 PM

    White supremacism is just another ludicrous form of identity politics. KKK are a vile organization. A lot of those Anti Fa groups are also extremists in that they use violence against anyone even classical liberals & moderate conservatives who also oppose white supremacists.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 11:37 PM

    @AR Devine: I’m a classic right wing Neo snowflake and a moderate alt liberal and I am still trying to figure out what a tracker mortgage is.

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    Aug 13th 2017, 3:05 AM

    @Frank Andnumsey: How’s Frank?

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    Aug 12th 2017, 11:23 PM

    Hicks

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    Aug 12th 2017, 10:28 PM

    America is descending into chaos as a society, yet they are involved in debilitating conflicts such as Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. Venezuela is on the radar, Ukraine and Crimea not so much, and at the same time North Korea has successfully positioned itself as a shaker. Everyone knows China stays quiet while they watch NK poke the USA and Russia are only too willing to exploit any weakness in their perceived sphere of influence. How can the Americans also threaten Iran at this point? I suppose because Iran has called for the destruction of Israel. Any wonder Israel is a nuclear armed country when it’s surrounded by enemies who want to see it and her people wiped away.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 11:33 PM

    @Jamie McCormack: By your logic then Palestinians needed a nuke. To protect their ancient lands. I don’t think Iran having a nuke is a bad idea, the bad idea is the Israelis and Americans attacking Iran- and provoking a Russian response.

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    Aug 13th 2017, 12:35 AM

    I think by my logic we should all be friends and there should be no fighting. War cripples us in too many ways.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 11:54 PM

    I simply can’t understand any type of supremacy ideology!
    Genetically we are all a mix of other ethnicities – We all have Chinese and African DNA- totally stupid and anyone that believes in this type of thing is just showing off their ignorance!

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    Aug 12th 2017, 11:05 PM

    I have to laugh at the “militias” little boys playing soldier. If Trumplethinskin goes to war these nazi cowards would crap their tightie whities at the thought of being drafted and having to really fight for their country and their way of life.

    Maybe they could plead bone spurs…

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    Aug 13th 2017, 12:53 AM

    @DaisyChainsaw: There will be no discrimination if the draft is enacted, nazi cowards, antifa s(um, women, even transgenders.

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    Aug 12th 2017, 10:53 PM

    #virginia

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