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Poll: Should the waiting time for a divorce be reduced?

A referendum on the waiting time is likely to be held next year.

IT IS LOOKING likely that a referendum on divorce will be held next year.

Divorce was made legal in Ireland in 1996 following a referendum in 1995.

Currently, a couple must have lived apart for four years out of the preceding five before they can initiate divorce proceedings.

However, the government has accepted Fine Gael’s Josepha Madigan’s proposals to reduce the waiting time to two years.

Divorce rates dropped during the recession but are on the rise again as the country sees an economic boost. Reducing the waiting time will have the effect of making it easier to get a divorce.

But do you think two years is too short a time?

Today we’re asking: Should the waiting time for a divorce be reduced from four years to two?


Poll Results:

Yes (10434)
No (1543)
Don't know (322)

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    Mute Paul Furey
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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:45 AM

    Once every thing is settled and sorted and signed off, that should be it.

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    Mute Chris Kirk
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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:53 AM

    @Paul Furey: Better to tell the kids first..

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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:56 AM

    @Chris Kirk: why do you think that is not covered in my original comment?

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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:57 AM

    @Chris Kirk: ‘kids, your mother and I have agreed that this is all your fault’

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    Mute Gillian Weir Scully
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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:03 AM

    @Paul Furey: Better make marriage harder? Have a renewal contract after each year?

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    Mute Dermot Lane
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    Sep 15th 2017, 10:08 AM

    @Gillian Weir Scully: trial run for a year, if it’s not working out, couples walk away without all the legal costs

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    Mute Chris Kirk
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    Sep 15th 2017, 10:33 AM

    @Paul Furey: Because it is clear that when there is no property involved there is little else apart from children which requires attention from the courts.

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    Sep 16th 2017, 1:52 AM

    @Gillian Weir Scully: yea, and a yearly licence fee of €160, which will increase by €10 with every budget.

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    Mute Fiona Fitzgerald
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    Sep 16th 2017, 4:09 PM

    @Dermot Lane: Seems fair. That’s what we had in Brehon times, a year-and-a-day.

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    Mute Weldoninhio
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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:45 AM

    Why even two years?? If you want a divorce, you should be able to get it as quickly as you want.

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    Mute Old Gabby Johnson
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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:48 AM

    @Weldoninhio: We should do away with the whole thing – marriages are like dogs – not just for christmas. I think couples should be tethered divorce is wrong – i mean did Jesus ever get divorced or have an abortion well of course he didn’t – so there’s your answer.

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    Mute Ricky Spanish
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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:50 AM

    @Weldoninhio: Definitely should remove any reference to a time period from the constitution. I still don’t understand why we Irish people insist on putting every little detail into our constitution

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    Mute Chris Kirk
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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:55 AM

    @Weldoninhio: That may be alright when there is no property to dispose of or children involved…

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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:00 AM

    @Chris Kirk: Dispose of the children?

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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:01 AM

    @Old Gabby Johnson: No but Jesus rode a hooker

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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:05 AM

    @Ricky Spanish:
    Your right about a time period not being necessary in the constitution.
    As regards putting every little thing into the constitution, I reckon its because we have so very little trust in politicians.
    Looks like this referendum could pass easily enough but the whole issue of how much detail to put into the constitution is where the abortion referendum could win or lose.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:05 AM

    @Ricky Spanish: To deter sham marriages mostly . This is a real concern.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:33 AM

    @Old Gabby Johnson: OMG do you want to say that Jesus was a woman who had a child out of wedlocks?

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    Sep 15th 2017, 10:48 AM

    @Old Gabby Johnson: Jesus never scored a late goal against England to get us to qualify for the World Cup either. What’s your point? The Catholic Church doesn’t like divorce anyway so why should we go by their rules here.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 12:18 PM

    @Fake Avast: very few people feel that way about abortion

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    Sep 15th 2017, 12:55 PM

    @phil:
    You need to be careful there Phil, and so too should the Journal.ie As far as I know our Laws on Blasphemy are still in operation

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    Sep 15th 2017, 1:27 PM

    @Weldoninhio: actually no. There should be say 12months. Think of it this way. How many people have arguments and fights but then resolve them and move on together. If you can get divorced tooooooo soon then you’re kinda screwed that way too. Whereas, if you haven’t resolved something with a 12 month period then it’s time to get divorced

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    Sep 15th 2017, 2:20 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: So you’re saying some people feel happy about divorce ?

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    Sep 15th 2017, 2:32 PM

    @Fake Avast: How ill considered. Are you seriously proposing third trimester abortion or are you just trolling?

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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:46 AM

    Child custody needs to be sorted as well. 50/50 it’s not fair for one parent to get custody while the other has to support them.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:50 AM

    @prop joe: there have been cases where one parent has demonstrated unsuitability for the parenting role and may be harmful to the welfare of the children.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:57 AM

    @prop joe: But it never goes 50/50 even when the husband has to settle all debts and agree to maintenance for the kids…..

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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:08 AM

    @Chris Kirk: well fathers should pay child support for their children. That’s a given. Remember your bad experience in this area isn’t everyone else’s. Most people are just happy to have it all coming to an end. Making sure the kids have a secure roof over their heads are fed clothed and see both parents is an ongoing process even after divorce at least until the kids come of age.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:23 AM

    @prop joe: it’s all well and good if the other parent wants to step up but not all of them want to step up, I offered my kids father 50/50 custody, he turns up every 6/7 weeks, to bring the kids down to his mother’s for the afternoon.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:27 AM

    @Fiona deFreyne: for every case like that there’s probably five others where decent parents are have been denied rights and proper access to there children for one reason or another.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:27 AM

    @prop joe: Custody is usually 50/50 with primary residence often with one parent. More and more parents are opting for joint residency with children spending half a week with each parent. Raising children is a huge job and commitment and most parents are happy to share residency as it shares childcare costs gives each parent a weekend off and nights out and a bit more freedom. Often one parent has childcare costs no nights out and has to do all the organising of the child’s life school and hobbies. A joint arrangement is better. Often though one parent doesn’t want joint residency and is happy for access arrangements. Younger generations at much happier with joint residency though and this is better for the kids and stops one parent bearing a disproportionate amount of the burden of raising the children.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:34 AM

    @David Carino: For every parent denied access there are five others who don’t bother to show up to see their kids or even make scheduled payments for their child’s upkeep.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:50 AM

    @prop joe: child custody already has to be agreed before a divorce is granted. And there is no room for “It’s not fair”. The child/children’s interests are all that matters…

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    Sep 15th 2017, 10:16 AM

    @Catherine Sims: in today’s world yes in the last 50 or so years ??? No !
    But I wonder how many of them Fathers actually know their fathers? cause some women use it as a money making machine . Big fancy houses and a bucket load of cash every month for their 5 and six kids that will never know who there Father is

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    Sep 15th 2017, 10:36 AM

    @David Carino: wow what a load of absolute nosense!!! Where are these fancy houses and bucket loads of cash that you speak of ?? You are talking utter nonsense. It’s much more likely the fathers walked away and were never held to account financially emotionally or any other way. You are clearly bitter spouting nonsense with no basis in fact. Even today when fathers legally have to acknowledge their offspring there are still very poor measures in place to make these dead beat dads pay up to support their children. There are actually very many men with 6 or more children with different women who even if they are chased for payment will only pay 7 euro at most out of their dole. They will never work because they know they would have to pay proper maintence. These dads think it’s ok to not turn up to see their kids or they just walk away for good. That’s the reality here .

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    Sep 15th 2017, 1:17 PM

    @Catherine Sims: shared residency should be law. There should be no grounds that one parent gets the house and kids in the marital residence. It’s easy for one parent to poison their kids against the other parent when they have them.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 1:35 PM

    @prop joe: Seems like a lot of men on here are more worried about getting the house than the kids. Shared residency can’t be law because it’s very often the case that one parent does not want the kids on that basis and are more than happy with just access. This is mostly fathers but there are some mothers too. If there is a house and mostly there isn’t a house as an asset these days. The mother doesn’t get to keep it. They get to live in it and when the children are of age it’s usually sold and the profits decided according to how much each person has paid into it. It’s just a way of giving a child some consistency in a changing time. Most parents today are happy with shared arrangements as both would like the burden of parenting shared not just financially but every other way too.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 1:46 PM

    @prop joe: You really that we should have a law about this? Do you not think that, maybe, just maybe, each family is different? Or that 2 adults whose relationship has broken down should be ‘forced’ to live together? Isn’t that just punishing everybody? Did it ever occur to you that a separated or divorced person might want to start a new relationship? Or that most parents are actually good, decent people, who wouldn’t ‘poison their kids against the other parent’? If you do, it says a lot about your attitude to separated people. If you’re against divorce, don’t get one, but don’t assume that everyone who does is wrong or that you have all the answers…

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    Sep 15th 2017, 5:04 PM

    @EvieXVI: both parents should have equal access to their kids. That means two separate residences , not one having to support the other.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 6:27 PM

    @prop joe:
    You’re delusional … and i would say bitter and twisted. I’m all for children having unlimited access to both parents but kids need stability and their needs should come above your own – NO MATTER WHAT! This selfish ‘entitled’ attitude is wrong.
    Most fathers happily live up to their responsibilities and see clearly what needs to be done – hence an ultimately amicable practical set-up. Therefore, i’m far from painting all separated fathers with the one brush. Kids are not a business transaction. Both parents are responsible for the home, food, heating, clothing and education of those children – their happiness, protection and security too. This means, as agreed when starting out having a family, supporting each other as parents to achieve those basic needs for their children.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 6:27 PM

    @prop joe:
    Cont…
    Each parent supplying a house/apartment off their own bat and then providing the whole costs of said property is a dream /delusion. There are couples with children who are homeless and unable to do that at the moment. Whoever lives in the home as primary carer has to make as much sacrifice as the other parent even if different, and is not paid to look after the children as well as work to financially support their half of things.
    Both parents are responsible for supplying A stable family home for their children until they are out in the world themselves.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 7:51 PM

    @David Carino: Well said David, and parental alienation is still not being recognised.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:00 PM

    @Catherine Sims: No need to personalise it Catherine, we were perfectly happy together once……then there was the mother in law!!

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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:08 PM

    @Catherine Sims: That may be your experience, not everyone elses unfortunately.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 10:32 PM

    @prop joe: You’re the one who said ‘shared residency should be law’!!

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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:48 AM

    Why even a 2 year wait?

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    Sep 15th 2017, 11:00 AM

    @Colin Morris: I know a couple who got married but then the husband returned back to his raging alcoholic ways after he was kidnapped by the wife’s estranged father. They broke up because of his alcoholism and the husband had a one night stand with the local shopkeeper. They got divorce papers completed but as the husbands alcoholism spiralled out of control he needed a liver transplant. He generally turned himself around and the wife realised she couldn’t live without him. They ended up not divorcing because they had to wait a specific amount of time. Anyhow, Phil and Sharon are living happily ever after despite the fact that she still has a thing for his brother.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 11:16 AM

    @Derek Goulding: did the brother get a look in when the husband was off the scene? Just wondering. Would make a good tv show

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    Sep 15th 2017, 11:32 AM

    @Gordon Jono Power: eastenders? Phil and sharon?

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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:48 AM

    The four year delay is simply to punish people for their marriage failing. It’s cruel and unnecessary.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:15 PM

    @DaisyChainsaw: You are right, in the old days bigamy was far easier.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:52 AM

    2 years is still too long. That 2 years in a toxic relationship will still be hell.

    Without kids (custody issues) it should take a maximum of 6 months, minimum 3 months. With kids (due to custody issues) a maximum of a year, minimum of 6 months.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 10:43 AM

    @Lily: nobody has to stay in a toxic- or any! – relationship for a minute longer than they want. There is no waiting period for ending a relationship, moving out, starting a new relationship, ect …

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    Sep 15th 2017, 12:38 PM

    @EvieXVI:

    But you are still tied to them. Regardless where they go. They need that piece of paper for many reasons.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 1:52 PM

    @Lily: I don’t see the point of waiting 4 years for a divorce, I agree with you on that. But you can be legally separated within 12 months. In reality, the only difference between a legal separation and a divorce is that a person can’t remarry until a divorce is granted; my point is that no-one is being forced to stay in a relationship.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:13 PM

    @EvieXVI: Only a fool remarries straight after a divorce…..

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    Sep 15th 2017, 10:34 PM

    @Chris Kirk: Nice, compassionate, thought…

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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:47 AM

    Hopefully i will never have to worry about it i love my wife she is amazing.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:58 AM

    @Mac Dara Powell: Thats great, but it takes two to tango so watch out…

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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:10 AM

    @Mac Dara Powell:

    That’s lovely. I’m with my husband 20 years. Have no plans to divorce, but I see others in broken relationships and that 4 years is way too long. They should be able to cut ties and walk away cleanly at 6 months. 1 girl I know is a year in to separation after her husband cheated on her and walked out. He has been so difficult and wouldn’t engage a solicitor.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:22 AM

    @Mac Dara Powell: hopefully she thinks you are too…..who knows what the future holds!

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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:28 AM

    Why get married at all..

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    Sep 15th 2017, 11:18 AM

    @OCallaghan TP: exactly and keep your lad in your pants. No kids for a stress free life

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    Sep 15th 2017, 2:24 PM

    @Gordon Jono Power: Sure it is better to get adult qualified citizens from abroad like many advanced countries do. It could save us billions on childcare and education. Also getting rid of old citizens with health problems is good option – send them on retirement to Spain or Portugal!

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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:14 AM

    The waiting time is not something that needs to be in the constitution. It’s more suited to legislation that can better deal with nuance and exceptions.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 2:28 PM

    @Derek Walsh: It is not suited modern times when people change work or place where they live every few years, so they change environment and people they live with. It is privilege of the few to born, live a die at the same place with same people around.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:47 AM

    Where there are kids involved and no violence there should be a substantial delay. Divorce really messes up young kids. Where kids are grown up or don’t exist it’s people’s own business really

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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:50 AM

    @techman: not always. My parents separated when I was very young and divorced after the referendum. Even if there’s no violence kids can tell when parents aren’t happy, divorce doesn’t always mess them up. Often times its for the best.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:55 AM

    @techman:

    No violence? A relationship can still be toxic without violence and moving on sooner rather than later is better for everyone concerned, even the kids.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:59 AM

    @tismeself: majority of the time it does, jaysus

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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:01 AM

    @techman: So you think that you are an angel, just watch what lies the lawyers throw at you when it comes to making the separation claim.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:04 AM

    @techman: A delay in the actual legal process of a divorce does not actually mean people will stay together longer. People still seperate and it just means they are in a state of legal bickering for longer !! Once people have separated and made the decision to divorce it’s better this is done sooner rather than later. Kids will have to adjust to the a new situation regardless and their parents are still apart . Divorce is just the legal mechanism to release people from a defunct relationship.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:08 AM

    @techman: very often having kids in a household that is not united can be far more toxic.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:26 AM

    @techman: it’s better to be in a house that people are not walking on egg shells, I was rared in my grandparents house and they two of them should never been allowed to get hitched to one another, it screws up people being in such a environment.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 10:26 AM

    @techman: divorce isn’t what messes up kids. It’s the breakdown of their parent’s relationship when not dealt with properly. When a relationship does break down, usually one or other parent moves out quickly. Surely it’s better for any child than living with 2 people who hate eachother? It makes no difference to the child whether parents actually divorce.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:26 PM

    @Catherine Sims: The legal bickering usually ends when the lawyers bills are presented to their clients. Then you realise what separation and divorce really is, because sharp legal aid lawyers really don’t care what harm they cause in order to get the best deal for their client.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:57 AM

    Roll on 2018 referendum … 2 years is absolutely appropriate … there’s a lot to sort out in that time and gives time for heads to settle especially where children and families are concerned.
    4 years is way too long, unnecessary and ridiculous.

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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:18 AM

    In Spain, if you are living there for more than 6 months you can file for divorce there. If it’s an amicable split, then from start to finish (seperation to divorce) takes roughly a month barring any problems. If there are, 6 months would be the longest you would be waiting. It is quite a shock to the system if the other party is not expecting it as by the time you start to process what’s going on, it’s over. In saying that, it’s far too long in Ireland.

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    Mute andy marsh
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    Sep 15th 2017, 2:29 PM

    It takes 3 months to get into a marriage so should only take 3 months to get out of it.

    People dont divorce on spur of the moment decision. Its not a decision that should be in other peoples hands. Once every thing is ironed out then it should be granted after that

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    Mute Hoggle
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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:16 AM

    Okay, so you just asked 2 questions at the end- is two years too short? ( I clicked No) then straight after it, should we reduce it from 4 to 2 (Yes!). Don’t put 2 conflicting questions at the end Cormac! It will mess up your poll

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    Mute Thomas Maher
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    Sep 15th 2017, 10:24 AM

    It needs to be reduced by around 3 and a half years. Max 4 months. If both parties are agreed on division of assets. If not 6 months when judge has to assign assets.

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    Mute Ben Moore
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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:47 AM

    Didn’t divorce rates sky rocket during the recession?

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    Mute P.J. Nolan
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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:21 AM

    @Ben Moore:
    Separation levels did but due often to property issues people couldn’t afford to divorce

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    Mute Thunder Snowman
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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:23 AM

    @Ben Moore: No, they dropped actually, mostly because couples couldn’t afford to divorce or separate. Divorce is rising again though, with the increase in property prices.

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    Mute Ciaran105
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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:04 AM

    Woman in caption has ring on right hand ? Staying in any toxic relationship for 1 second longer than you have to is not right for everyone concerned. Both will say the “other half” is the lunatic , carry your own baggage , let others carry theirs and turn the corner.

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    Mute Barry O Rourke
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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:53 AM

    The same length of time it would take to smother the person with a pillow

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    Mute Allison Smith
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    Sep 15th 2017, 12:45 PM

    What a backward country, divorce only legal for ,20 years now a referendum to reduce the waiting time. 2 years is still too long.

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    Mute Chris Kirk
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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:33 PM

    @Allison Smith: Twenty years ago divorce in another country wasn’t recognised in Ireland and if you were remarried you would be a bigamist and your children of second marriage were classed illegitimate. Thats how backward this country is.

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    Mute Keith McDonagh
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    Sep 15th 2017, 11:41 AM

    Why don’t they just scrap the waiting time altogether & get it done right when they want it?

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    Mute Carlin Ite
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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:14 AM

    Should be online like motor tax. Or better yet give cohabiting couples exactly the same rights as married couples and perhaps in time people would stop engaging in such silly old money rituals.

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    Mute lavbeer
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    Sep 15th 2017, 10:25 AM

    The legal eagles will be delighted.

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    Mute Patrick Kearns
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    Sep 15th 2017, 2:53 PM
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    Mute Eugene Comaskey
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    Sep 15th 2017, 11:38 AM

    I think one should be able to get the whole thing done by Email or an auld phone all.

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    Mute Ken Glasheen
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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:50 AM

    It should take a long to get out of a marriage as it took to to get into one. Why should wiser and more mature people be delayed on one but not on the other?

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    Mute Irish Bob
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    Sep 15th 2017, 3:32 PM

    More important is sorting out Fathers rights, there is no equality in the courts regarding that. But that wont cause any outrage

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    Mute Dean
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    Sep 15th 2017, 11:27 AM

    No. Divorce should be made illegal as per the bible

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    Mute P.J. Nolan
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    Sep 15th 2017, 12:08 PM

    @Dean:
    They are not biting today.
    Must try harder.

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    Mute Garreth Byrne
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    Sep 15th 2017, 4:16 PM

    @P.J. Nolan: He failed to quote the exact chapter and verse. The Bible generally has a capital letter when the title of the book is referenced.

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    Mute Brian O Reilly
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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:59 AM

    Yes it should be reduced ,I would say a month or so,I mean you’ve got give it a shot.

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    Mute Ciarán FitzGerald
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    Sep 15th 2017, 10:08 AM

    Wrong hand in the photo??? It’s the left hand for the ring ? lol

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    Mute Matthew O'Kane
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    Sep 15th 2017, 10:14 AM

    should be immediate no waiting time if someone asks it must be bad

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    Mute Irish Bob
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    Sep 15th 2017, 3:30 PM

    Ah sure why not, let everyone do what they want when they want.

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    Mute Louise Hannigan
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    Sep 15th 2017, 11:23 PM

    Whoever said No here obviously is either old school or has never been thru it. Some ppl get shorter in jail…4yrs is over the top. If its over, its over. Why prolong it & put both your lives on hold & worse still make it harder of there’s kids involved. It’s nobody elses business but your own if ppl want a divorce, it needed to be changed a long time ago.

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    Mute Paul Mc Manus
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    Sep 15th 2017, 1:28 PM

    There should be say 12months. Think of it this way. How many people have arguments and fights but then resolve them and move on together. If you can get divorced tooooooo soon then you’re kinda screwed that way too. Whereas, if you haven’t resolved something within a 12 month period then it’s time to get divorced. Shimples

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    Mute Patrick Kearns
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    Sep 15th 2017, 2:37 PM

    @Paul Mc Manus: Why bother, just let them get married again if that’s what they want. It’ll boost the economy and who doesn’t like a good party!?

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    Mute Garreth Byrne
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    Sep 15th 2017, 4:11 PM

    The waiting time for couples under 21 getting married should be extended. People should look before they leap. Mills & Boon novels, like cigarette packets, should carry statutory warnings. Even if readers and puffers continue to ignore the warnings.

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    Mute David Cullen
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    Sep 15th 2017, 1:39 PM

    what’s wrong with one year ??

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    Mute andy marsh
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    Sep 15th 2017, 2:33 PM

    @David Cullen: its too long

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    Mute Seán Ó Nuadhan
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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:48 AM

    they shouold make it possible to do it quickly but a lot more expensive so to still give families a Chance to try work it out

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    Mute Ben Moore
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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:53 AM

    @Seán Ó Nuadhan: What a ridiculous idea. What if someone wants a divorce to escape domestic abuse, then adding even further financial barriers to that?

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    Mute Dell
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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:54 AM

    @Seán Ó Nuadhan: are you kidding? As it is solicitors make far too much money on the back of what is an absolutely awful experience for the couple involved even in the most amicable of circumstances. Why punish people for knowing with clarity that they do not want to stay married and want to move on with their lives sooner rather than later?

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    Mute Paul Furey
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    Sep 15th 2017, 8:54 AM

    @Seán Ó Nuadhan: I would imagine for most that divorce is the last thing and all sorts of mediation and talking is done. Of course there are those where no amount of talking or trying to sort out will ever help..

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    Mute Ciaran105
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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:10 AM

    @Seán Ó Nuadhan: A 2 tiered divorce system ! ! not a fan of money giving an entitlement over need or domestic circumstances. Equal in the eyes of the law .

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    Mute Gus Sheridan
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    Sep 15th 2017, 9:25 AM

    @Dell: solicitors are the vultures in divorce cases, often making a bad situation a lot worse.

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    Mute EvieXVI
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    Sep 15th 2017, 10:49 AM

    @Seán Ó Nuadhan: What a stupid comment. If 2 adults want to separate, they can. As it is, because of the 4 year wait for divorce, many couples have to go to court before then to sort out child maintenance and care/finances/propetry. And then it’s all looked at again when they divorce. All of this costs money. If the waiting time for divorce was reduced, it might reduce the amount of money that couples waste on legal fees.

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    Mute andy marsh
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    Sep 15th 2017, 2:27 PM

    It should take the same time to get out of a marriage as it took to get into it. 3 months!!!

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    Mute Andrew Halpin
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    Sep 15th 2017, 11:24 PM

    The should legislate for marriage in a court. They should have the same criteria for divorce as getting married. Apply to get married after demonstrating that you( the couple) have lived together for four years. Then you should go through years and years of court appearances and pointless swearing of useless affidavits before possibly getting married. The presiding master of ceremonies should have no experience of the consequences of any interim decision made or whether you actually get married at all. Hopefully couples will realise the folly of their ways and avoid getting married at all.
    P.S. I’m being sarcastic

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    Mute Anthony Halpin
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    Sep 15th 2017, 11:05 AM

    I wonder if FG will illegally try to sway the vote like they did in the first place back in 1997? Isn’t ‘Democracy’ wonderful … or if you’re a blueshirt, the bits that you like!

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    Mute TheoWolfe
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    Sep 15th 2017, 5:01 PM

    Since the abolition of marriage referendum, does it really matter?

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    Mute Ron North
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    Sep 15th 2017, 5:28 PM

    @TheoWolfe: I’m impressed that you can comment from the 1950′s, who’s your ISP.

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    Mute Brían Ó Cionnaith
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    Sep 16th 2017, 4:50 AM

    Time for an update but 8 must come first

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    Mute Bren Oconnell
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    Sep 15th 2017, 7:55 PM

    The government have taken advise from a family law solicitor. Of course she wants it reduced , more money for her.

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    Mute Sallins Man
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    Sep 16th 2017, 9:03 AM

    Only women should get married

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    Mute Aoife Morris
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    Sep 15th 2017, 10:59 AM

    I truly believe it should be reduced. I’m 2 years waiting and another 2 to wait.

    We tried to save our marriage and couldn’t.

    It ended up being a toxic environment with both of us being miserable

    i want to finalise the end Of The marriage but am stuck waiting.

    there’s no chance of reconciliation. why should i have to wait!???

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