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Mass shooting at Tennessee church leaves one woman dead and seven others injured

Police say the gunman has been captured.

POLICE IN TENNESSEE have said they’ve captured a gunman who opened fire at Nashville church, killing a woman and wounding seven other victims.

Nashville fire department told the Tennessean newspaper that the injured were taken to hospital but that the nature of their injuries was unknown.

Metropolitan Nashville Police Department said the incident happened at the Burnette Chapel of the Church of Christ.

The woman who was killed was fatally shot in the church’s car park.

The gunman was wounded during his arrest and is being detained in hospital.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 7:37 PM

    FFS this madness will never end

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    Sep 24th 2017, 7:41 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: sorry, thoughts are with the victims and their families.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 7:42 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Has all the hallmarks of another Dylann Roof.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 7:44 PM

    @Atheos Euripides: I’ll hold my tongue until there’s actual news

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    Sep 24th 2017, 7:45 PM

    @Atheos Euripides: Sounds more like a domestic but don’t let that stop you stirring up racial tensions.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 7:52 PM

    @Brian Ward: police know who he is and are unaware at this time of any relationship between him and the congregation. He also wore a mask. Domestics tend to be more personal and attackers usual want the victim to know

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:02 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: I agree with you Dave but I’m just wildly speculating like Atheos without any knowledge of the actual events except I’m not trying to use the tragedy for my own agenda. The shooter wore a clown mask according to police dispatch http://heavy.com/news/2017/09/burnette-chapel-antioch-tennessee-church-shooting-photos-videos-victims/ .

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:08 PM

    @Brian Ward: your comment below makes your non-agenda a lie

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:08 PM

    @Brian Ward: also police have since said it was more of a ski mask

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:14 PM

    @Atheos Euripides: care to disprove any of it? Or are you just here to fight anybody that says anything that may slightly make you look bad?

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:17 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: What’s my agenda? Some nutter walks into a church and shoots it up so people start wildly speculating as to his motive. Initial reports reports suggested one woman killed and 6 injured so it sounded like a domestic. If people want to jump to conclusions and assign a political agenda to it that’s fine by me I just don’t think that it is very helpful in the current climate.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:20 PM

    @Brian Ward: says you after your rant about the death toll might have been higher if the anti-gun lobby had their way. That’s an agenda.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:24 PM

    Hmmm, seems there’s two Atheos profiles

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:25 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Where am I wrong in stating that the death toll could have been higher if there wasn’t a licensed gun owner on site that helped stop further carnage?

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:29 PM

    @Brian Ward: because the anti-gun people are usually OK with responsible gun ownership. They would like to stop nutters (the attacker) having guns. Why do you purposely overlook that the attacker would have found it harder to get a gun if the anti-gun lobby had some success while the responsible gun owner would in all likelihood still have had a gun

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:36 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Why do you over look the fact that I have no problem with stricter gun laws and that the anti-gun lobby want to ban all guns? The hint in in the “anti” part of anti-gun. BTW buying an illegal firearm in the States or in Ireland is child’s play thanks to the darknet. €750 for a Walther PPK plus 20 rounds of ammo, pay in bitcoin and shipped in pieces to avoid detection.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:43 PM

    @Brian Ward: show me a child that can get a gun on the dark web then. Sorry, but you’re just rambling, nobody wants all guns gone. Majority of the anti-gun movement want exactly what you want.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:54 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: I’m rambling and you are on about children getting guns on the darknet? Who said anything about children getting guns? Where am I wrong in stating that you can buy a gun easily on the darknet? In fact you still haven’t answered my previous question about the death toll being higher if there wasn’t a licensed gun holder on site. If you can’t show me where I am wrong on either statement just let me know I won’t mind.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:59 PM

    @Brian Ward: you said it was child’s play. You brought it up kid. You’re now backtracking about the responsible gun owner. You initially said a lot more than the death toll would have been higher if he wasn’t there. In fact you even walked right up to the line of saying the anti-gun lobby would have blood on their hands if they had their way. But you failed to acknowledge that they want to make it harder for the criminal, not the responsible gun owner.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 9:45 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe:

    Then why is it that gun laws inevitably punish legal firearm owners while criminals in every land seem to have no issue with getting guns?

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    Sep 24th 2017, 9:49 PM

    @Thought for Food: how would training and background checks before gun ownership punish responsible gun owners?

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    Sep 24th 2017, 9:53 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe:

    It makes it more difficult for them to buy guns while doing nothing to prevent illegal gun ownership.

    If you want to tackle illegal gun owners, as you say, then why not propose something that would go after illegal rather than legal guns?

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    Sep 24th 2017, 10:02 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe:

    I also feel compelled to point out that buying any firearm from a licenced FFL requires a background check. An FFL is required for anything other than a transfer of ownership between close family.

    A training course is also mandatory if you want a concealed carry permit.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 10:11 PM

    @Thought for Food: why do you lie? No background checks required for transfer of ownership in any case, which is how private sales are done, just like cars.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 10:13 PM

    @Thought for Food: so background checks and training only make it more difficult for responsible gun owners? Why do you constantly deliberately misrepresent the truth?

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    Sep 25th 2017, 6:18 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe:

    How do they make it difficult for illegal gun owners?

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    Sep 25th 2017, 7:43 AM

    @Thought for Food: every illegal gun was once a legal gun with an irresponsible owner

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    Sep 25th 2017, 8:01 AM

    @Thought for Food: also, why haven’t you acknowledged your lies? Its getting really tiring pointing out your infinite flow of bullsh!t only to have you change direction once confronted.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 8:24 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: ” you said it was child’s play. You brought it up kid ” If you don’t understand the meaning of the phrase then you clearly don’t understand the English language. That explains a lot about your inability to answer my questions or point out whether my 2 questions were incorrect or not.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 8:40 AM

    @Brian Ward: so it doesn’t mean a task easily accomplished by a child? Brian, this is not the first issue over the last two days that you’ve been entirely disingenuous about. All illegal guns were once legally bought, yes or no?

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    Sep 25th 2017, 9:57 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe:

    What lies? It’s obvious that you don’t know how purchasing a gun in the US works.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 7:50 PM

    The irony is that the shooter apparently shot himself after being confronted by a church goer who had a permit to carry his own gun. If the anti-gun lobby had their way the church goer would have been unarmed and the death toll could have been way higher.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 7:54 PM

    @Brian Ward: when has anyone said responsible gun ownership was a problem?

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    Sep 24th 2017, 7:57 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Wait a while and you’ll see the usual suspects calling for the banning of all guns in the wake of this shooting. Responsible gun ownership isn’t the problem in the US it’s their attitude of shoot first ask questions later is the problem.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 7:59 PM

    @Brian Ward: I think you’ll find most just want full background checks and training for gun ownership.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:02 PM

    @Brian Ward: Well if they both had NO guns the death toll would’ve been way lower

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:05 PM

    @Meekus: Yes because someone who wants to go on a rampage would never think of buying a gun illegally.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:07 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: I’m all for background checks and more restrictions on how guns change hands in the same way that we do in Ireland.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:12 PM

    @Brian Ward: congratulations, you’re anti-gun. At least according to the NRA. Care to go back to not having an agenda now?

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:13 PM

    @Brian Ward: If there was an issue on your street with people leaving their vicious dogs off their leashes. The dogs were attacking you and your neighbours. Would your advise be for everyone on your street to get themselves a viscous dog?

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:15 PM

    @Brian Ward: “Yes because someone who wants to go on a rampage would never think of buying a gun illegally.”

    In the USA they don’t have to buy the gun or assault rifle illegally part of the problem I would have thought…..

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:19 PM

    @Meekus: No I’d tell them to get a gun!

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:21 PM

    @Brian Ward: Kids as well?

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:22 PM

    @Kerry Blake: The problem is the mindset of Americans when it comes to gun ownership. Switzerland has a very high level of gun ownership yet mass shootings are extremely rare over there. There are approx 150,000 licensed firearms in Ireland yet we have never had a mass shooting. The problem isn’t the guns it’s the people that are using them.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:23 PM

    @Meekus: Now you are just being silly.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:29 PM

    @Brian Ward: G’man

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:30 PM

    @Brian Ward: in Switzerland the low rate is due to military training and here most firearms are owned by farmers and hunters who have to renew a permit annually

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:31 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: actually I’m not sure it’s annually but it does need to be renewed along with a letter of proof from a farmer that you have permission to use it on their property.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:35 PM

    @Brian Ward: So shooter sees someone else with a gun and shots himself rather than aiming at the other guy. Interesting to see if that is true.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:37 PM

    @lavbeer: that’s what the other guy with the gun said but it wasn’t clear if he would have done that anyway. The mask suggests he was planning on getting away.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:47 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: “in Switzerland the low rate is due to military training” really? In case you haven’t noticed there is a large percentage of the US population who have either served in the National Guard or the full time military so that argument goes out the window. A better one would be that the Swiss train their troops and reserves to a much better degree. Anecdotal evidence from Afghanistan and Iraq is that British and coalition troops hated serving alongside the Americans because they shot the shite out of everything that moved when they had a contact. the Brits on the other hand tended to be much more professional.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:49 PM

    @Brian Ward: Would have thought the problem in America is they allow every random idiot access to killing weapons…..

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:50 PM

    @Brian Ward: you done? Switzerland has mandatory military conscription. At the end of which you can buy your service weapon. That’s the training.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:53 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: NBC are now saying that the shooter was a 26 yo African American. A church usher tackled him and he shot himself accidentally and then the usher got his gun from his car.

    Gun ownership is ridiculous. Do licensed gun owner carry them in their cars? I don’t know but I suspect this is not allowed.

    Don’t blame Trump !!’n

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:53 PM

    @Atheos Euripides: aww, still piggybacking on other people’s profiles? Poor little lamb

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    Sep 24th 2017, 9:02 PM

    @lavbeer: it depends on the license, you can usually get a license to do so. There are open and concealed carry permits in various states with varying degrees of training involved in getting those licenses

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    Sep 24th 2017, 9:06 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: madness isn’t it. No way any citizen should be permitted to carry a gun in public when they want.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 9:13 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: It’s just Liam fag, he has about 20 troll accounts on here, you can tie them together by their illiteracy and poor grammar.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 9:16 PM

    @lavbeer: I’m all for responsible, trained gun owners.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 9:18 PM

    @Atheos Euripides: it’s pretty pathetic really.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 9:23 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Dude needs to get a job, a girl and move out of Mummy’s basement!

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:19 PM

    @Brian Ward:
    “If the anti-gun lobby had their way the church goer would have been unarmed”

    That’s not what they want. You just asserted that’s their goal, and then argued against yourself.

    They want proper background checks. Stop making up stuff and then arguing against something you just made up.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 9:59 AM

    @Brian Ward: we are just tripping up over gun massacres here aren’t we?

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    Sep 24th 2017, 7:49 PM

    GunMan. What a surprise.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:26 PM

    @Veronica: Sometimes I when I read your comments I find myself getting turned on in a sadomasochistic kind of way, this is one of those times.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 9:31 PM

    @Veronica: Using a tragedy to push your bogus narrative and ideology. What a surprise.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 9:55 PM

    @Veronica:

    Young black man according to the New York Times. Will be interesting to see how your oppression olympics ideology handles this one.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 10:10 PM

    @Veronica: Stay classy, “Miss”.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 9:40 AM

    @Thought for Food: Pandemic of male violence. Males of all ethnicities have a violence problem. So what?

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:12 PM

    What could be the reason for this madness , apparently all the churchgoers are in their 60′s . Terrible madness .

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    Sep 24th 2017, 9:55 PM

    @Paddy Hayden:

    The perpetrator was a young black man with no connections to the church. It looks like a racially motivated attack or potential terrorism.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 10:10 PM

    @Thought for Food: Well that’s the last we’ll hear about this story so .

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    Sep 24th 2017, 10:36 PM

    @Paddy Hayden: When they mentioned the name of the county he came from , it was almost like a code , so a quick look at the wikipedia page tells you this .”Since the turn of the 21st century, it has been the destination of numerous immigrants, who have settled in the area, including many from Somalia and Kurds from Iraq.” This guy is from Sudan .

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    Sep 24th 2017, 10:53 PM

    @Paddy Hayden: he is a former parishioner, still a proud Christian according to his social media and has been in America since 1996. Please stop the false narratives.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:13 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: What’s the false narrative ?

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:29 PM

    @Paddy Hayden: you mentioning Muslims for no good reason.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:37 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Are you on drugs or something , are you mixing up your threads in an attempt to say something ? I suggest you read all the comments and sober up .

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:39 PM

    @Paddy Hayden: you said at 8:13 that you would be so quick to dismiss a Muslim as the perp, why? Based on what?

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:52 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: You’re pushing it here Dave .

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:54 PM

    @Paddy Hayden: was it not exactly what you said? Your reply to a comment saying Trump was more concerned with Muslims than mass shootings and you reply that you wouldn’t be so quick to rule Muslims out.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:58 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: you also said you looked forward to her response once the identity was revealed given her comment about Trump being more concerned with Muslims than gun control. Seems like you already had a faith chosen for the perpetrator

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:31 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: You’re pushing $hit uphill Dave , but I’ll play along for anyone watching this . Anyone who is interested in Daves confused ramblings , go to the thread below .

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:38 AM

    The one started by @Kerry Blake .

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:40 AM

    @Paddy Hayden: you’ve stopped replying on the other thread, are you really saying Trump has no problem with Muslims? Wasn’t that his whole schtick for the campaign?

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    Sep 25th 2017, 1:20 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Banning people from coming in from countries where the veracity of the information pertaining to the person presenting themselves at the border could not be proven , is not a Muslim ban .
    This guy was a U.S resident from Sudan , a country on the banned list .

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    Sep 25th 2017, 4:55 AM

    @Paddy Hayden: A country that was ‘previously’ on the banned list.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 7:48 AM

    @Paddy Hayden: he came in in 1996 as a 5 year old Christian, exactly the type of person Trump has said need not worry about the ban. Plus, he was in 21 years before the planned “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the country” – DJT on the campaign trail.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 8:23 AM

    @Paddy Hayden: Sudan is not on the banned list anymore. Funny that after a Sudanese-American non-Muslim attacks Americans the country gets removed from the Muslim ban.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 9:42 AM

    He murdered a woman. This was probably because he hates women, not because he’s black or whatever.

    Anyone want to guess how many women in the world are murdered by men every single day? And yet you complain about how it’s probably “racial”? Open your eyes.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 9:59 PM

    @Veronica:

    You really are a special kind of hateful person.

    He attacked a congregation of elderly white people. The congregation was mixed gender but only one race. It was racially, not gender motivated.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:28 PM

    Mass shooting.
    Reads like mass shooting i.e. A lots people dead. Anybody dead or injured is terrible , the headlines are becoming like the Sun.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:45 PM

    @Philip Kelly: mass murder would be a lot of people dead. Mass shooting means a lot of people shot. 7 is a lot, 8 including the perpetrator.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:12 PM

    Trump is worried about Muslims while this is going on in his own country? What a fool……

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:13 PM

    @Kerry Blake: I wouldn’t speak too soon on that subject .

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:17 PM

    @Paddy Hayden: Why are you cowering in fear expecting Muslims to attack you once you step outside of your door?

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:33 PM

    @Atheos Euripides: hello fake Atheos

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    Sep 24th 2017, 9:10 PM

    @Kerry Blake: He’s actually worried about muslims coming into his country who cannot be background checked .
    And no , I don’t fear walking outside my door because of muslims , nor do I ever want to .

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    Sep 24th 2017, 10:31 PM

    @Kerry Blake: It will be interesting to see your response when the identity of the shooter is revealed , with your comment on banning muslims .

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    Sep 24th 2017, 10:44 PM

    @Kerry Blake: His name is Emanuel kidega samson , he’s from Sudan , one of the countries on the banned list .
    Not all Sudanese are muslim , the head of state has an ICC arrest warrant out on him .

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    Sep 24th 2017, 10:47 PM

    @Paddy Hayden: described by police as an African-American

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    Sep 24th 2017, 10:54 PM
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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:02 PM

    @Paddy Hayden: so a Christian, American citizen that has been there since 1996.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:16 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: I said , not all Sudanese are muslim . In fact when the proposed ban was announced , it was also mentioned that the ban wasn’t a muslim ban , because the countries also had other religious populations .

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:21 PM

    @Paddy Hayden: but you did also bring Muslims into the conversation. Also, didn’t Trump promise Christians from those countries safe passage?

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:30 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: You have a very one eyed way of following a thread , so go back to the top and see who brought up the muslim word .

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:34 PM

    @Paddy Hayden: your 8:13pm comments to seeks to introduce the idea that the attacker may have been Muslim

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:43 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Now you’re really stretching the boundaries , my 8.13 comment in it’s entirety : (I wouldn’t speak too soon on that subject .)

    Which was in reply to Kerry Blakes comment :(Trump is worried about Muslims while this is going on in his own country? What a fool……)
    So once again , what are you on about ?

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:44 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Stay on this thread , you are confusing yourself .

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:46 PM

    @Paddy Hayden: Kerry Blake pointing out that Trump is more worried about Muslims than gun crime and you reply saying you wouldn’t be so quick to rule out Muslims. What were you basing that on?

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:57 PM

    @Paddy Hayden: “ít will be interesting to see your response when the identity of the shooter os revealed, with your comment on banning Muslims.” in reply to her comment about Trump being more concerned with banning Muslims than gun control

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:59 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Talk about reading between the lines . So in your opinion was Kerry talking about the so called ‘muslim ban’ , or just muslims in general .
    I would say it’s safe to assume he was on about the ban , but as I said on the thread, the ban is about the countries not having proper ways to keep records , and Sudan is on that list , and this guy is from Sudan .

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:05 AM

    @Paddy Hayden: Are you going to withdraw your 11.21 pm comment , saying I brought the muslim issue up ? or are you just going to blag your way on .

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:06 AM

    @Paddy Hayden: what about your second reply to Kerry? The one where you said you look forward to their response to the identity of the killer due to their comment about Trump’s concern with Muslims?

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:06 AM

    @Paddy Hayden: Obviously that one’s meant for you Dave .

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:10 AM

    @Paddy Hayden: really? All I had said was “hello fake Atheos” how exactly was your comment (marked as a reply to Kerry) about a Muslim ban a reply to my comment about the fake Atheos? Also, you were the first to mention the ban. You’re welcome x

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:10 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Do you only ask questions , answer my comment from 11.59 pm , did you think her comment was about the ‘Muslim ban’ or all muslims in general .
    Answer that , and the garbage you’re coming out with might become clearer .

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:11 AM

    @Paddy Hayden: well, since she didn’t mention the ban i can only assume it was about Trump’s general issues with Muslims.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:14 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: WTF are you on about now , you must be pissed .
    Get some sleep , you’re normally better than this , you’re embarrassing yourself now .

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:16 AM

    @Paddy Hayden: show me where Kerry mentioned the ban. If it’s not there then it’s not there. If it’s not mentioned then it’s not mentioned. You did mention it specifically though.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:16 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: And what are these issues Trump allegedly has with muslims in general , seeing as everyone gave him stick for going to Saudi Arabia .

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:19 AM

    @Paddy Hayden: ask the Khan family

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:37 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Remind me again what was about , was it anything to do with a travel ban on certain countries ?
    And seeing as this is your reference , where is the evidence of Trumps dislike of all muslims in this feud .

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:42 AM

    @Paddy Hayden: “the Muslims hate us” remember how he attacked Ms Khan for not speaking? Blaming Islam for not allowing her? Their son died for America.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 1:02 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Your name on here should be Philoctetes , you can sure as hell draw a long bow . How you can come up with the Khan angle having nothing to do with the ban is unbelievable .
    I’m still waiting for you to acknowledge that I didn’t bring the muslim word into the thread . The first time I mentioned it was in a direct response to her stupid comment specifically asking me if I was ”cowering in fear of muslims” .

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    Sep 25th 2017, 7:55 AM

    @Paddy Hayden: you’re an idiot hiding behind a fake name because you don’t have any balls. You deliberately sought to link Muslims with the attack, and as far as I can see you were the only one to do that. Kerry brought up Muslims to point out that while Trump is focused on Muslims most terror attacks in America are carried out by American educated Christians.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 8:07 AM

    @Paddy Hayden: you even contradict yourself “he’s actually worried about Muslims coming into the country without proper background checks” (up as far as country is an exact quote, the rest is paraphrased) if you didn’t think it was about Muslims wouldn’t you have said people instead?

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    Sep 25th 2017, 8:19 AM

    @Kerry Blake: No, ya see that’s Trump’s purpose; distract from the domestic issues whilst he interferes with other countries. It’s been his M.O. since he started.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 9:17 PM
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    Sep 24th 2017, 9:23 PM

    @Vrana: and the victims ?

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    Sep 24th 2017, 9:28 PM

    @Joe Caulfield: right now, all I know is they were people. I won’t rule out a racist motive. The man had no ties to the church.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 9:32 PM

    @Joe Caulfield:

    The victims that I’m aware of thus far are elderly whites.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 9:39 PM

    @Atheos Euripides: Of course you have now that we know the perpetrator was black and the victims white.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 9:50 PM

    @Joe Caulfield: that’s a fake Atheos.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 10:12 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Aren’t they all .

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    Sep 24th 2017, 10:14 PM

    @Paddy Hayden: aren’t you a fake Paddy Hayden?

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    Sep 24th 2017, 10:51 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: I’m Paddy Hayden and so is my wife

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    Sep 24th 2017, 10:57 PM

    @lavbeer: #ismisepaddyhayden

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:03 PM

    @lavbeer: lol

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:22 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: correction to my earlier post, he was a former parishioner that hadn’t attended for quite a while.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:25 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Wrong thread Dave .

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:35 PM

    @Paddy Hayden: scroll up, I replied to someone on this thread saying he had no tie to the church, police are now saying he is a former parishioner

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:42 PM

    The murderer is an immigrant from Sudan. How interesting.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:44 PM

    @Vrana: a Christian who has been in America since the age of 5. Very interesting indeed.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:09 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe:

    A Sudanese Christian who has been in the US since the age of five.
    Whoever allowed that creature’s family into the US has blood on their hands.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:13 AM

    @Vrana: it’ll be interesting to see of he had a record and how he got a gun. But yes, it should be possible to tell what five year olds will do when they grow up. I’m leaning towards it being roid rage at this stage. But I’m not ruling out racism by any means. It’s possible.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:26 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe:

    It’s already possible to tell that importing people from the worst societies on Earth is a bad idea, no need to make guesses about five year olds.

    Given that he appears to have a black lives matter type bee in his bonnet, the racist angle is a strong possibility.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:44 AM

    @Vrana: does he? Where did you get that from? I’m not doubting you at all I’d just like to read it.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 7:52 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: They usually have it put away in their ‘right’ buttocks.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 3:26 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe:

    Here you go, chief:
    http://gotnews.com/breaking-antioch-shooter-black-power-radical-posted-youre-likely-killed-white-man/

    The chap has interests in black power (heh) and Black Panther lies, has expressed support for Robert Mugabe, has liked and shared various bits of Muslim guff, has spread African victimhood nonsense and so on.

    Given that all the people he killed or tried to kill were white and his semi-literate gibbering on Facebook, the racist attack version of events looks likely.

    I notice there has been no update to this article now that we know that the murderer is not white.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 4:32 PM

    @Vrana : excellent source you found there lad..hahahaha

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    Sep 25th 2017, 4:42 PM

    @Maryland Lady:

    Thanks.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 5:52 PM

    @Vrana: white supremacists are your source? https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/gotnews/

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    Sep 25th 2017, 5:58 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe:

    No, the murderer’s Facebook is my source.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 10:01 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe:

    The New York Times were also reporting it.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:15 PM

    God and guns.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 6:25 AM

    @Fiona deFreyne:

    Actually Fiona, you can try to blame guns for this but it looks like your ideology is directly responsible.

    A browse of the perpetrators social media accounts shows that he bought into some giant conspiracy that white people were oppressing blacks in both the US and Africa. He celebrated the confiscation of white property in Zimbabwe among other things which were anti-white.

    He bought into the left’s racial rubbish and he went out and tried to kill innocent white people.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 8:26 AM

    @Thought for Food: source? Some other person brought that up hours ago but also didn’t provide a source. I’m curious, also as it’s you it’s obviously not to be believed until shown clearly. You have got a habit of lying therefore your information must be verified to be trusted.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 10:02 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe:

    Read the New York Times article about the attack.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 10:54 PM

    Would a gun have been involved?

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:02 PM

    @Fiona deFreyne: Yes obviously as it was a shooting . This guy apparently .
    http://heavy.com/news/2017/09/emanuel-kidega-samson-burnette-chapel-antioch-tennessee-church-shooter-gunman/

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:06 PM

    @Paddy Hayden: a former parishioner

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:23 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: When was he last in the congregation , according to the link I posted , police said he has no known link to the church .
    So what are you trying to say ? It was a racial attack or that he had a beef with some of the octogenarians he shot .

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:31 PM

    @Paddy Hayden: I have no idea what the motive was. He was a parishioner but had not attended recently according to police. I’m not trying to say anything other than what police statements are saying. You on the other hand have managed to bring Muslims into a situation involving only Christians

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:34 PM

    @Fiona deFreyne: not catholic death Tony – nothing for you on this one

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:44 PM

    @Fiona deFreyne:

    Yes, a gun used by a Sudanese immigrant was involved.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:47 PM

    @Vrana: a Christian immigrant no less

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:49 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: I think an apology is in order Dave , you’re a good commentor normally , but you’ve jumped the gun here .

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:52 PM

    @Paddy Hayden: jumped the gun is a a poor taste choice of words but go on, what are you accusing me of?

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:41 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Saying I brought up the word muslim on another thread , which you still haven’t acknowledged is a blatant lie .

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:43 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: I see how your Trolling works , you jump threads , throw out a lie , and then disappear from that thread .

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:46 AM

    @Paddy Hayden: Nope, still here. We’re you not the first to mention Muslim as a potential faith if the attacker? And even go as far as to say that you’d look forward to the response when the perp was identified from someone that should Trump should focus on guns era there than Muslims?

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    Sep 25th 2017, 1:13 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: No I didn’t , and you know that . Now if you can point out that I was the first one to bring it up and say that the faith of the perp would be a muslim , I’ll admit that you are right and that I’m wrong accusing you of lying .

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    Sep 25th 2017, 8:00 AM

    @Paddy Hayden: you said you wouldn’t be so fast to rule out Muslims and then said you look forward to hearing from Kerry once the attacker is identified when she asked why you cower in your home afraid of Muslims. Seems pretty straightforward what you were up to.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 11:15 PM

    Gun crime.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 6:25 AM

    @Fiona deFreyne:

    Hate crime.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 8:28 AM

    @Thought for Food: he’s a former parishioner. If you’ve got a source I’d be interested to see it but since I’ve caught you lying several times on articles here I won’t take a single word you say as truth until you prove it. That’s your fault. You lie so often that people now won’t believe you when you may well be telling the truth.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 9:43 AM

    @Thought for Food: Indeed. Femicide.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 10:11 PM

    Now it’s the Chapel of Rest ,for some of them.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 6:56 AM

    Shooter must be white – no mention of terrorism!

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    Sep 25th 2017, 8:25 AM

    @Eithne Brew: No, the New York Times have identified the man in question and he is a black Sudanese immigrant that moved to the states in 1990.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 12:22 PM

    @Liv: wrong, he came in 1996 as a Christian immigrant.

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    Sep 25th 2017, 1:24 AM

    I never going to Mass again if that is what is going to happen.

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    Sep 24th 2017, 8:41 PM

    Kill Bill

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