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Sinn Féin councillor climbs City Hall with Catalonia flag at Dublin demo

Councillor Chris Andrews told TheJournal.ie that it was a “spur of the moment” thing.

Updated 7.06pm

SINN FÉIN COUNCILLOR Chris Andrews climbed atop Dublin’s city hall this afternoon, and held aloft a Catalonian flag, during a demonstration after yesterday’s independence referendum in the Spanish region.

He told TheJournal.ie that he did it as a gesture of solidarity with the Catalonian people.

“It was a spur of the moment thing,” he said. “We’d flown the Palestinian flag before so I thought it would be a good thing.”

The vote yesterday saw riot police move in on polling stations in Barcelona and other towns and cities in the Catalan region to stop people from voting, in some cases baton-charging and firing rubber bullets to disperse crowds.

More than 800 people received medical attention as a result of the crackdown, according to regional authorities.

The rally took place before tonight’s Dublin City Council meeting. Speaking to TheJournal.ie by phone from that meeting, Andrews said that he was shocked by the actions of police in Catalonia yesterday.

“Oh god it was brutal,” the former Fianna Fáil TD said. “I thought things like that were a thing of the past.”

Sinn Féin’s Mary Lou McDonald was one of those attending the protest, and tweeted this picture from the scene.

Gerry Adams welcomed the result of the referendum and said the voice of the Catalan people “must be respected by the Spanish government and the international community”.

Sinn Féin has also criticised the European Commission for its stance on the issue, with TD Sean Crowe saying that they “released an appalling and out of touch statement” on yesterday’s events.

Earlier today, Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said that Ireland wouldn’t recognise the result of yesterday’s referendum, but also criticised violence witnessed over the weekend in Catalonia.

The Taoiseach told reporters in Dublin today that it was particularly concerning to see such scenes take place in a European city. He said he didn’t believe violence provides solutions, adding that it only leads to “radicalisation”.

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    Mute Fluich Go Craicean
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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:18 PM

    So SF want a United Ireland but a divided Spain.

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    Mute AR Devine
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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:17 PM

    @Fluich Go Craicean: Just like they want a partioned Britain but a united Ireland. Never big fans of consistency

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    Mute Mary Ryan
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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:29 PM

    @Fluich Go Craicean: They want Madrid to honour the wishes of the majority of Catalans but don’t want London to honour the wishes of the majority of Northern Irish…

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    Mute Brendan Walsh
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    Oct 2nd 2017, 9:15 PM

    @Fluich Go Craicean: Yes the Catalan situation is hardly any different to the then economically wealthier Protestant Ulstermen wanting Independence from Ireland and the creation of the Northern Ireland Statelet.

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    Mute Talleyrand Frye
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    Oct 2nd 2017, 9:59 PM

    @AR Devine: I think only those people who have an axe to grind see some kind of inconsistency. Sinn Fein supported the right of Scotland and Catalonia to democratically decide their fate. They also want a border poll in Northern Ireland. In calling for people to be allowed to vote on what state they want to be a part of, they seem to be pretty consistent.

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    Mute Fred Jetson
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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:40 PM

    I stand with Madrid and the unity of the Spanish nation against this illegal act by violent agitators.

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    Mute Richard Doherty
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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:45 PM

    @Fred Jetson: so your a facist lover against opressed nations shame on you

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    Mute Brian Ó Dálaigh
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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:45 PM

    @Fred Jetson: The only ones violent were the authorities from the same group you support. Also, I think you’re mixing up nation and sovereign state. Spain is a sovereign state comprising several nations.

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    Mute Fred Jetson
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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:47 PM

    @Fred Jetson:

    Catalonia has flourished as part of Spain. That’s why it’s the richest part of the country. The leftists and their illegal actions have no leg to stand on here.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:48 PM

    @Richard Doherty: Facists/racists everywhere! Scary times indeed.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:50 PM

    @Fred Jetson: you stand with the usual trolls & pro right wing ar$eholes that populate this forum. No problem with women being beaten by cops is about your level Freddy.

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    Mute Brian Ó Dálaigh
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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:54 PM

    @Fred Jetson: Catalonia has flourished despite being a part of Spain. I corrected that for you, Fred.

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    Mute Brian O'Loughlin
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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:01 PM

    So Sinn Fein stand in solidarity with the people of Catalonia but were/ are happy to ignore the will of the people of Northern Ireland to remain part of UK for years ?

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:02 PM

    @Fred Jetson: not even using your real name, get lost.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:05 PM

    @Richard Doherty: Honest question, how is catalonia oppressed?

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:11 PM

    @Brian O’Loughlin: Look up ‘Kaufman’s rules of ethnic nationalism’ and Jorry’s inconsistencies will suddenly make a whole lot more sense.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:14 PM

    @Brian Ó Dálaigh: Oh give over! That’s the whole bloody joke of the term ‘nation’ – it’s so incredibly fluid and subjective that whoever uses it can change the rules whenever they damn well please. It’s a farce.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:21 PM

    @Setrakian: eh equality! you are ok with men being beaten by the cops?

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:34 PM

    @Brian O’Loughlin: the will of the people of Northern Ireland? And what about the will of the Irish people not to have their country divided in two to suit a people who willingly set themselves apart from their fellow Irishmen as a minority? “Northern Ireland ” is and forever will be illegal!

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:38 PM

    @Fred Jetson: maybe you should get a job…….

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    Mute Brian Ó Dálaigh
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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:41 PM

    @Harry Whitehead: If you knew anything about the situation in Catalonia you would know that the definition of nation lies at the heart of this issue. Previously, the Catalans were granted the status of nation under the sovereignty of the Spanish state. In the last few years this was stripped from them. So, no, there’s no joke here about its definition, especially when it culminates in elderly people being beaten by state police and girls being dragged out of buildings by their hair.

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    Mute Joe Harbison
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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:54 PM

    @Brian Ó Dálaigh: Support the partition of Spain, oppose the partition of Ireland. Violent Spanish police are bad, violent Venezuelan police are good. I wish SF would make up their minds.

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    Mute Brian Ó Dálaigh
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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:13 PM

    @Joe Harbison: I’m no supporter of Sinn Fein, let me tell you. Some good social policies, but also a lot which make no sense, hypocrisy on most fronts and a foreign policy I do not agree with under any stretch of the imagination. I also do not agree with the corrupt government of Venezuela or their brutal police force. I do, however, agree with self-determination. That means that I believe the Catalans should have the right to hold a referendum and, if they so choose, to either remain part of Spain or become independent. If Northern Ireland were also to hold a referendum and they voted to remain in the UK, I would also support that too.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 8:03 PM

    @Brian Ó Dálaigh: The whole concept is a joke, as is everyone’s insistence on pretending it’s about ‘self-determination’, or ‘nationhood’. It’s not. It’s about unemployment/inequality/economic uncertainty. In other words, a CLASS issue.

    Do you think it’s a coincidence that all of these populist secessionist movements – Brexit, Scotland, Belgium, Catalonia etc. – have suddenly mushroomed in support in the years following the global recession?

    Puigdemont, Sturgeon, Farage etc all have the same thing in common – they ask you to believe that you have less in common with ‘foreigners’ on your level than you do with the wealthy incompetent f*uckers who run your government. Remember, it’s all about the flags!

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 8:20 PM

    @Brian Ó Dálaigh: when?

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 8:42 PM

    @Brian O’Loughlin: “Northern Ireland” was created against the will of the Irish people.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 8:59 PM

    @Fred Jetson:
    SF supporting the Rich Catalonia against the Poor rump of Spain
    FG supporting the Poor rump of Spain against the Rich Catalonia

    Well who would have thought ???

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 9:35 PM

    @Fred Jetson: you don’t get out much, do you Fred?

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 9:38 PM

    @Setrakian: so would agreed with the Unionist population in the 6 county state in North east Ireland to be in Independent from the rest of Ireland like the catalonia population in North east SPAIN …

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 9:43 PM

    @Fred Jetson: go and f&&king live their so

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 9:43 PM

    @Sean McManamon: that would be 28th June 2010 when the Constitutional Court, under pressure from the PP, declared the use of “Catalonia as a nation” in Catalonia’s statute of autonomy as illegal, along with forcefully removing many (about 14, I think) of the regions powers.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 9:53 PM

    @Brian O’Loughlin: i am shock by SF support for separatists in catalonia in North east spain for the break up of spain whats the difference between north east Ireland (6 county state) by unionists who want to be separated from the rest of Ireland (North Belfast Nationalist )

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:47 PM

    @Evan Ruess: SF are funny…..

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:59 PM

    Nice one Mary Lou – could you not concentrate on sorting out the odd problem in our little country first

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:44 PM

    Will there be space for a Catalan flag beside the Palestinian flag?

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:51 PM

    @Mark Scott: I here that old South Africans want their old flag back after trying toxic socialism.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:03 PM

    @Danny foley: as for apartheid what next bring back orange apartheid gerrymandering in the north

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:40 PM

    @dangermouse: I’d settle for some punctuation.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:30 PM

    @muchly least: sadly in a world of anonymous opinion that’s a reason for comment.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:43 PM

    Poor Mary is holding her print-out of the flag the wrong way.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:44 PM

    @Honeybadger197:

    LOL!

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:52 PM

    @Fred Jetson: Printaprotest.com

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:11 PM

    @Honeybadger197: She went missing for the Repeal the 8th march too…

    Still in a strop after being schooled by Dr V.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:17 PM

    @Diarmuid: lol.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:29 PM

    @Honeybadger197: isn’t the flying of a flag upside down the sign of distress, I’m here all week if you boys need more schooling.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:56 PM

    The FG boys had my comment removed for pointing out that they are not so vocal on the Regina Doherty illegal allowance story on the journal earlier today. SAD

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    Mute Honeybadger197
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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:03 PM

    @Mr Phil Officer: lol. That’s why all the other Catalan flags were being displayed normally. Good effort but stay in school. We’ll put it down to carelessness on her behalf. :)

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:10 PM

    Sorry Shinners, you don’t own nationalism.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:24 PM

    @Diarmuid: that’s what I was thinking – SF ruining Catalonia for the rest of us.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:25 PM

    @Diarmuid: Spoken in the tongue of Facism. SF support the right to self determination. Only facists oppose this. Do you oppose the right to self determination Diarmuid?

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:52 PM

    @Cal Mooney: except if you’re a unionist.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 8:22 PM

    @Cal Mooney: SF are hypocrites

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 10:05 PM

    @Cal Mooney: would Sinn Fein support if the pale reformed and looked to be separtists. The country piggy backs on the wealth created in dublin.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:18 PM

    SF jump on yet another bandwagon.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:29 PM

    @Tony Stack: Funny you say that. SF were the only party supporting the right to self determination for the Catalonian people until yesterday, now all the Political parties have jumped on board. Go figure.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:48 PM

    @Cal Mooney: funny how Sinn Fein don’t support the right to self determination for the people of Gibraltar to remain British . They want to see Spain and UK split up but Ireland united .

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 8:38 PM

    @Cal Mooney: all i am saying is how could anyone take them seriously, you never know what they will get up to next. Not exactly fit for office now are they, thankfully so, I say. I support the Catalan’s by the way.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 9:16 PM

    @Cal Mooney: Cal, will they support the Unionists if they want areas of the North for themselves?

    They really do hypocrisy better than anyone else.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:48 PM

    @Evan Ruess: blueshirts are fine with facism until it becomes too overt.

    Cracking protestors heads open is fine, trying to commit genocide is something to be “strongly condemned” in Leo’s hyper PR driven personality.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:45 PM

    “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable” – JFK

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:17 PM

    90% yes vote from a turnout of 42% cannot be seen as a proven majority.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 8:43 PM

    @Bryan Kelly: Well Bryan, it didn’t take you long to get personal and insulting. I guess if I lift the lid on a sewer, I should expect a smell.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 11:37 PM

    @Shea Fitzgerald: Referenda are decided by those who turn out to vote. That’s how they work. Even without the threat of violence you are never going to get a 100% turnout. Brexit turnout percentage was 72%. How the 28% may have voted or why they abstained doesn’t matter in the final result.

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    Oct 3rd 2017, 1:08 AM

    @Sean: That much is true. But it is a flawed system because while it suggests that it is the will of the majority of the people, it is actually just the will of the people who voted. It then begs the question if major decisions like independence and Brexit should be made by referendum if the turnout is less than a critical percentage of the population, especially if the difference is small, as it was with Brexit. 17,410,742 British people voted to leave Europe but Great Britain (including Wales, Scotland and N. Ireland has a population of 65,640,000. That’s not the majority of the people. I would love to hear a statistician’s take on this.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:43 PM

    on way to GPO. 6:30 Solidarity with Catalonia

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:48 PM

    @Kain Phoenix: G’wan so.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:49 PM

    @Kain Phoenix: Watch out for low flying spaceships….

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:16 PM

    The people of Catalonia would laugh at the rag-tag group of Looney Lefties claiming to speak for them.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:17 PM

    @Stephen Foster: lol
    It’s happening lad ;)

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:18 PM

    @Danny foley: I’ll wear a helmet lol

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:07 PM

    Leo must be remembering The Blueshirt O’Duffy and his merry band who depared under the swastika. Even Franco couldn’t get rid of them fast enough. Well done to the man who flew the flag.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:51 PM

    @Donal Desmond: Cllr Chris Andrews flying the flag on the roof

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:44 PM

    @Donal Desmond: Yeah and we also remember Sean Russel and Frank Ryan who sided with the Nazis — Well done boys!!

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 9:51 PM

    @John Mc Donagh: Frank Ryan fought on the Republican side during the Spanish civil war. How he eventually got to Germany is story in it self. Russell, s hatred of the British certainly led him to make questionable decisions. Unlike O’Duffy who spent his time in Spain getting drunk. The only action the Blueshirts were involved in trunes in to a fiasco… they opened fire on their own side . Ryan and Russell were men who dedicated their lives for the Irish Republic.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 10:16 PM

    @Donal Desmond:——–And then joined up with the Nazis!

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    Oct 3rd 2017, 1:42 AM

    @John Mc Donagh: Frank Ryan never did .He hated fascist principles. Sean Russell well I cannot speak for him. Old Dev signed the book of condolences in the German embassy on the death of Hitler. Yet you condem Ryan and Russell. You fail to mention the Blueshirts who supported the fascist regime of Franco. Air brushed by their descendants.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:11 PM

    imagine stating “I stand with Madrid and the unity of the Spanish nation against this illegal act by violent agitators”. That’s straight of Trumps textbook, I saw violence from the police , not protesters. I suppose you might have had a party when the our founding fathers were executed after the illegal civil war.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:50 PM

    @Evan Ruess: Using your logic, can we assume that Mary Lou supports the extrajudicial killing of 8,000+ people in Catalonia by Anarchists and Socialists during the Summer & Autumn of 1936? Once a supporter of Socialist Militants, always a supporter etc….?

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:29 PM

    Spur of the moment with all those reprinted banners and posters ? More Shinner spin

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:33 PM

    @Stephen Kearon: Hi Stephen, how is FF getting on in relation to meeting with the SDLP and FF swearing an oath of allegiance to the British queen? FG will be jealous, they have bent the knee for decades but never got to swear allegiance.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:52 PM

    SF supporting independent which will mean less Government spend doe the poorer regions of Spain………

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 8:18 PM

    @Paul: On the other hand, an independent Catalonia would still be a fellow member of the EU. And voluntarily so. It seems to me that any aid Spain needs for development might be forthcoming with their support, if Spain can only keep things civil. They honestly don’t seem to be thinking very far ahead when they endorse seizing voters by the hair and flinging them against the furniture. It’s an odd way to demonstrate any reasonable point.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 11:44 PM

    @Fiona Fitzgerald: Juncker reiterated today that in the event of Catalonia becoming independent, something polls show is opposed by the majority in Catalonia, they would NOT be members of the EU and, just like Scotland were it to become independent of the UK, would have to reapply and go to the back of the queue for membership.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:25 PM

    It’s not our problem. We should be worrying about a hard border with Northern Ireland and the abortion issue and not something we have no control over.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:52 PM

    @Eoin Mulhern: The Shinnies should be working to restore powersharing in the north .They would protest at anything absolutely anything just for media coverage.What happened in Spain is criminal just like the shinnies stance on northern Ireland

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:44 PM

    @owen kirwan: What the Guardia Civil did was criminal. They assaulted and injured hundreds of people who were just out expressing their opinion. The vote meant absolutely nothing in the eyes of Spanish law. Serious error of judgement by the Spanish government.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:54 PM

    @owen kirwan: DUP refusal to honour a language act that they already agreed to a decade ago is holding up the assembly, why are they holding up proceedings, it’s not as if their going to upset their base because they already agreed to implement the act, to be brutally honest their taking the p1ss.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:02 PM

    SF are supporting he breakup of Spain while supporting union of Ireland. What a bunch of hypocrites!

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:46 PM

    @newbie: Why? Because it’s the truth?

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:23 PM

    @Roy Dowling: because they are supporting the right to self determination. No one is arguing against the right to self determination in the North except the facists.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:30 PM

    @Roy Dowling: It’s simply fraperoom rubbish.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:40 PM

    @Dave Doyle: *Special thanks to Dave, coming live from our LLA office in Bulgaria* :)

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:14 PM

    the Guardia Civil were brutes but a simplistic narrative is emerging in the Irish/UK media that the nationalists make up majority of people in Catalunya & are being oppressed by the Spanish & deprived of their rights. The reality is much more complex & opinion polls show slight majority of Catalans dont want independence. Catalunya has Home Rule similiar to Scotland. Large swathes of Catalans have a parent or grandparent or ancestors from other parts of Spain. Spain, is comprised of smaller distinct nations like the nations of these islands whose histories, cultures and ancestry are all intertwined.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/speaking-up-isnt-so-easy-for-catalans-who-also-feel-spanish/2017/09/29/db8d8f54-a510-11e7-b573-8ec86cdfe1ed_story.html?utm_term=.772ae257a70a

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:46 PM

    @AR Devine: Then the simple thing to do was to let the referendum go ahead

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 11:47 PM

    @JimmyMc: The courts ruled it unconstitutional, a government cannot ignore the rule of law.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:18 PM

    @Evan Ruess: never took you seriously “Evan/Johnny/Emmet………”. Also, I’m not a blueshirt. I just saw him say what he said.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:56 PM

    Populist BS by the Shinners.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:01 PM

    @Evan Ruess: you are so full of sh!t it’s scary. He condemned the violence and pointed out that the result is not legally binding because it was an unconstitutional ballot. But yeah, go ahead and twist it any which way that suits your narrative.

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    Mute Brian Wilde
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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:13 PM

    The last time Sinn Fein hijacked a civil rights movement it took 30 years to stop them killing the innocent . Butt out of Catalunya and stick to bullying your membership !

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:46 PM

    @TonyF: How ironic that’s exactly what the British army said at the time of Bloddy Sunday “They were all terrorists or their proxies.”…You have exactly the same mentality about innocent people as they had….

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:46 PM

    @TonyF: Mostly innocent Catholics who didn’t comply with their thuggery!

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 8:05 PM

    @TonyF: What percentage does the 380+ catholic civilians murdered by the IRA represent? You seem to know your stuff.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 8:08 PM

    @TonyF: The majority killed by the I.R.A. were Catholics who upset the thuggish warlords in the Catholic areas and paid with their lives often suffering the most barbaric and inhuman tortures beforehand.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 10:20 PM

    @TonyF: Another anglophobic fanatic!

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:40 PM

    @Evan Ruess: you left out the word unconstitutional a bunch of times there darling. Did he or did he not condemn the actions of Spanish police in Catalunya yesterday?

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:36 PM

    The fraperoom are out in force tonight. Afraid to openly back Leo and his support of the Spanish government, as he crys a crocodile tear at the brutality of the police.
    SF have come out solidly in support of the Catalans, as have most people. And the fraperoom are in turmoil.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:50 PM

    These left wing loons think their dreams have finally come true after all these years of reading up and basing whole personas on the International Brigades, now they may get a chance to actually join one, Abraham Lincoln Brigade mark two or maybe Tupac Shakur Brigade, for diversity, free abortion and human rights you know.
    Tiernan and Orla are picking out their combat fatigues and shaping their berets right now for the struggle against fascism or whatever.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:25 PM

    Results of a referendum neither free nor fair is okay when the result suits? Was that not a problem over the years in NI? Disgraceful behaviour by the Catalan government and even worse by a long shout by the Spanish. SF news a little more maturity than jumping on the bandwagon.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 5:55 PM

    @Evan Ruess: let’s completely ignore that he condemned the violence and blamed Madrid for it. None of the “on many sides” bullsh!t

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 8:10 PM

    Chris Andrews he shouldn’t allow his colleagues to tweet him. Might open a load of issues for SF and their ability to use tweets to skew all sorts of facts…. Although a man of his advanced years pulling a stunt like that.. And Mannix sat with his feet out the window. Ever since we got all posh and changed the Corpo to the DCC the intellect at City Hall has gone down the Poddle….. God bless them…

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    Mute .
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    Oct 2nd 2017, 8:32 PM

    F@@king Chancer

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:06 PM

    @Evan Ruess: Leo should piss off and live there

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    Mute lavbeer
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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:27 PM

    Was Eoin O’Brian there in an official capacity as a monitor or just a supporter?

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:47 PM

    @lavbeer: seemingly at the invitation of the Catalan government, according to himself.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:56 PM

    @lavbeer: looking at his twitter I assume just a supporter

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 10:57 PM

    @lavbeer: e

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 10:59 PM

    @lavbeer: eoin o broin, martina Anderson, Lynn Boylan and Trevor o Clochartaigh were there as international monitors.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 11:06 PM

    @Michael Doyle: He certainly didn’t come across as neutral but mind you with the carry on that was happening on the street that would be hard.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 11:09 PM

    @Michael Doyle: anyone neutral couldn’t recognise that as a valid poll. Hard to see what the next steps will be.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:21 PM

    Now there is a bunch of tossers!

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    Mute Martin Laird
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    Oct 2nd 2017, 9:59 PM

    LEO WHAT IF IT WAS IRELAND LOOKING FOR IT’S INDEPENDENCE i support Catalonia and so should you

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:49 PM

    Cllr Chris Andrews on the roof

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:25 PM

    @Susan Gregg Farrell: ahh ffs he climbed up the stairs- thought it was a daredevil scaling the building. Half wit. Is he insured to be up there? I bet now

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:23 PM

    The only losers here are the people of Spain. Both Puigdemont and have acted appallingly – one for flogging nationalist snake oil, the other for using a mallet to swat a fly.

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:23 PM

    @Harry Whitehead: *Puigdemont and Rajoy

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    Mute Margaret Mcgarry
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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:51 PM

    Bring the flag over to Barcelona and protest there big bloody deal

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 9:12 PM

    good work I like it

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 9:46 PM

    @Evan Ruess: so you left words out to suit your narrative. Red herring or not (it isn’t, the vote was unconstitutional) you still changed what was actually said to suit your point

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 6:39 PM

    @Evan Ruess: and he had Egyptian blood in his veins Evan

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 10:42 PM

    Typical shinner and their love of flags, should’ve thrown him off the roof. Illegitimate vote, badly handled by Spanish authorities on the one hand but pretending it has mass support like this is idiotic. What is it with sf and causes, when they won’t even govern the 6 counties themselves.

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    Mute Larry Fitzwell
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    Oct 2nd 2017, 9:18 PM

    Idiots thought it would be the popular thing to do today. Sadly they are even becoming inept at populist politics.

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    Oct 3rd 2017, 7:32 AM

    Jeez they’re all at it, another attention grabbing stunt from a member of Sinn Fein, although this does beat Mary Lou’s latest theatrics in the Dail. Next, Pearse Doherty to rattle off the twelve times tables without any mistakes. That’ll be the most daring stunt of all

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    Oct 2nd 2017, 7:04 PM

    Anyone know where to get the Facebook filter.

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    Oct 3rd 2017, 12:50 AM

    It matters because the vote had no legal basis. If someone was inclined to vote no, why would they participate in a “referendum” which wasn’t legally recognised in the first instance???

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    Oct 3rd 2017, 12:17 AM

    That sf councillor seems to have more illegence for a section of Spain than he does for his own homeless ethnic Irish people here in Ireland (EU BRUSSELS) go on councillor campaign for YOUR own homeless people here ! Can you do that??

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    Mute Willie Kavanagh
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    Oct 3rd 2017, 2:25 AM

    So Gerry wants respect for the democratic rights of the Catalans.
    Hypocrite.
    Seeing

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    Oct 3rd 2017, 2:29 AM

    @Willie Kavanagh:
    Sorry forgot to finish
    Gerry A supports the dictator Maduro in Venezuela where democracy no longer exists and even sent his minions
    to observe the illegal elections, all paid for by the Venezuelan Govt. Of course being good little lap dogs they said the elections were fair and free and we all know that was not the case.
    So it’s rank hypocrisy to hear him say that the democratic rights of the Catalans be respected.

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    Oct 3rd 2017, 12:48 AM

    What a muppet

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    Oct 3rd 2017, 3:43 PM

    Well I guess it’s OK for every one else to climb these buildings now when a sh!ty fein councilor can do it we all can do it right?

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