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Confusion reigns over ‘ownership’ of Lough Foyle

Ministers say it is unclear whether the Republic of Ireland or the United Kingdom owns the seabed and waterline of Lough Foyle, situated on the Donegal-Derry border.

THE OWNERSHIP OF the seabed and waterline at Lough Foyle on the Derry-Donegal border has been questioned – with confusion about whether the area falls under the jurisdiction of the Irish Republic or the United Kingdom.

Donegal County Council has signalled its intent to buy a part of the waters at Lough Foyle in order to construct a waste water treatment plant there. However, the UK Crown Estate has also claimed propriety ownership of the sea floor of Lough Foyle to the high water mark on the Donegal side of the lough,  according to Deputy Pádraig Mac Loughlainn.

Mac Loughlainn asked the Minister for Justice and Equality, Alan Shatter, and the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine, Simon Coveney, on the status of negotiations with the Crown Estate regarding ownership of the area.

Following reports that gardaí on the County Donegal side of Lough Foyle had been instructed to take no action below the high water level of the lough – as they ‘have no jurisdiction’ there – Shatter said the question of the proprietary ownership of the sea floor of Lough Foyle was still being reviewed.

Meanwhile, Deputy Coveney said that the issue was “complex and involve(s) a number of stakeholders”. He added that while the general issue of the State’s maritime boundaries was a matter for the Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade, both Departments would continue to work closely together “to progress the matter of aquaculture licensing in respect of Lough Foyle”.

A group representing local residents, Community For a Clean Estuary, has opposed the establishment of a waste management plant at the site for more than 20 years, according to Inishowen Community Radio.

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    Mute Patrick Collins
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    Apr 20th 2018, 11:23 PM

    Rest in peace a wonderful woman and an amazing sister to JoJo

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    Mute Nek nedyah
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    Apr 20th 2018, 11:24 PM

    Someone knows something about this case , murderers talk , whether you are a friend or partner , someone will have spoken about it .
    If you think you are protecting someone , you’re not .
    You only perpetuate grief .

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    Mute Nick Allen
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    Apr 20th 2018, 11:52 PM

    @Nek nedyah:

    I don’t think you have to look much further than Larry Murphy. Just don’t have the evidence to prosecute.

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    Apr 21st 2018, 12:00 AM

    @Nick Allen: I agree with you 100%

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    Mute Nek nedyah
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    Apr 21st 2018, 12:09 AM

    @Nick Allen: I don’t know much about this story , I’ll look into it .
    But there seems to be a consensus that “someone” is responsible .

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    Apr 21st 2018, 12:18 AM

    @Nek nedyah:

    He is a convicted rapist and was proven to be in the area at the time. Have a google about him, also Rte had a program on him and his link to the 3 girls that went missing in the area which gave a very convincing argument.

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    Mute Paul P O'Sullivan
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    Apr 21st 2018, 12:30 AM

    @Nick Allen: It is more than being a convicted rapist, it was the manner of it. He abducted a woman, brought her to a forest, raped her and attempted to murder her. Local hunters or farmers inturrupted by chance and he ran. Went home, had sex with his wife as if nothing happened and waited for the Gards as he had been recognised.

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    Apr 21st 2018, 12:35 AM

    @Paul P O’Sullivan:

    Absolutely, it’s a surprise he was not convicted. He got out of jail about 3 years ago and was followed by the Gardai our to Malahide where he went for a walk on the beach and i believe he went to Amsterdam after that

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    Apr 21st 2018, 6:47 AM

    @Nick Allen: yeh agreed…. Its all to coincidental….

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    Apr 21st 2018, 9:07 AM

    @Nick Allen: I remember watching a documentary on Tv called “Ireland’s missing women”. They said on it the years that Larry Murphy was in prison any woman that went missing was found alive. It’s was the years before he was caught that women went missing and never found.

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    Apr 21st 2018, 1:23 PM

    @Nick Allen: They know but he covered his tracks too well the odds are shes in Dublin mountains buried where he was caught killing his Carlow victim.Moone was right on his stomping ground in the 90,s

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    Mute MyBrokenKnees
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    Apr 20th 2018, 11:18 PM

    May she finally be at Rest now such a brave woman.

    RIP.

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    Mute Padraic McHugh
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    Apr 20th 2018, 11:32 PM

    A real pity she didn’t find the truth before she passed away herself.She lived her life looking for it.R.I.P

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    Apr 20th 2018, 11:19 PM

    Well done. Sleep well.

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    Apr 20th 2018, 11:52 PM

    Please god Jo Jo’s memory will not be forgotten and that the cold case team will find the person or persons who done this. Surely someone out there knows something no matter how small. May Mary rest in peace. Sad.

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    Mute Jimmy Ryan Rises
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    Apr 20th 2018, 11:49 PM

    The family believed that the killer was protected due to strong political connections. Similar to the Mary Boyle case in Donegal where they are almost certain they know who the killer is.

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    Mute Nek nedyah
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    Apr 21st 2018, 12:03 AM

    @Jimmy Ryan Rises: This is the problem in Ireland , it’s not religion , it’s the bully culture .
    Perhaps we need another civil war .

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    Apr 21st 2018, 12:27 AM

    @Nek nedyah: A woman has died and you feel it is appropriate to use her sad story to advocate for a “civil war”. I am rarely shocked by the dangerous stupidity and hate filled bile on display on this site but you sir take the proverbial biscuit.

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    Apr 21st 2018, 12:35 AM

    @Larry Doyle: Maybe it would suit you better to look into who knew what about this case…

    Anyway, RIP the poor woman, her life must have been hell.

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    Mute Sean Leonard
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    Apr 21st 2018, 6:55 AM

    @Jimmy Ryan Rises: yes and the same as Bernadette Connolly in Sligo whose anniversary was this week, while her body was found in 1970….. The Guards were told to drop persuing the case as the chief suspect was a member of the local religious community….. Sadly all the witnesses and their suspects are now dead, but no closure to the family.

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    Apr 20th 2018, 11:28 PM

    Poor lady,very sad,rest in peace

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    Mute George McCarthy
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    Apr 20th 2018, 11:36 PM

    So so sad. How can the person responsible sleep at night???

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    Mute Olive whyte
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    Apr 21st 2018, 12:02 AM

    Who knows where anyone goes when they pass away, can only hope she’s reunited with her sister and justice will be done some day. RIP

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    Apr 21st 2018, 12:47 AM

    RIP. She knows now what happened and hopefully the two of them are together.

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    Apr 21st 2018, 1:21 AM

    So sorry to hear this news, may she rest in peace.

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    Apr 21st 2018, 1:58 AM

    Very sad that she never got closure after so many many years of searching for the truth. RIP

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    Apr 21st 2018, 7:05 AM

    Hope she’s finally reunited with her sister. RIP

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    Apr 21st 2018, 8:13 AM

    @Bobby Byrne: how could she be reunited with Jo Jo?

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    Apr 21st 2018, 11:22 AM

    @Bobby Byrne: I hope they are

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    Apr 21st 2018, 8:33 AM

    RIP to a remarkable woman, very sad that she never got closure for her sisters disappearance.

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    Mute John Lardner
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    Apr 21st 2018, 7:10 AM

    Very sad news.

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    Apr 21st 2018, 6:50 AM

    I Hope the Angel’s or whoever is out there give you rest Mary…. I’d say the stress and worry of Jo Jo been missing all these years finally killed her…

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    Apr 21st 2018, 10:01 AM

    May she rest in peace. And perhaps get the answers she sought for so long.

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    Mute Emma
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    Apr 21st 2018, 4:51 PM

    A fantastic woman who never stopped searching for answers. One of the bravest women of our time to carry that suffering. May she rest in peace.

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    Apr 21st 2018, 8:30 AM

    I hope she’s with her in hevan

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    Apr 21st 2018, 10:34 AM

    The poor woman. Never found answers but dedicated her whole life to doing so.
    May she rest in peace.

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    Apr 23rd 2018, 6:01 AM

    Rest In Peace Mary Phelan . You did your best . JoJo would be very proud of what you did for her . God Bless .

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    Mute Sandra Creevey
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    Apr 21st 2018, 9:22 AM

    Is it not Dollard?

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    Apr 21st 2018, 12:14 PM

    @Sandra Creevey: no, it’s Dullard.

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    Apr 21st 2018, 1:55 PM

    @Sandra Creevey: Is it not Creevy?

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    Apr 22nd 2018, 9:26 AM

    Its amazing that since mr murphys release, no one has picked him up for a “chat” in a secluded area so as to gain some clarity on his movements at that time. A method used frequently in the north by a certain group back in the day.

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    Apr 22nd 2018, 5:22 AM

    This poor soul died after giving 20 years of her life trying to find her sister. She never gave up hope. She is a true inspiration of self sacrific,her life shatterered to pieces after jo jos disappearance. I’m not overly religious but I hope to god she finds the peace she so rightly deserves after so long campaigning and finds her beloved jo jo

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    Apr 23rd 2018, 6:30 PM

    Poor soul after giving 20 years of her live looking for her beloved jo jo.hope she finds the peace she so rightly deserves

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    Mute Deirdre Murphy
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    Apr 21st 2018, 12:23 AM

    Yes so so sad for Mary. RIP
    We know who you are there in moone. May you NEVER Rest In Peace.

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    Apr 22nd 2018, 5:38 AM

    This poor soul died after giving 20 years of her life tirelessly campaging for her beloveved sisters disappearance.she is a True inspiration for everyone. I hope to god she finds the peace she so rightly deserves and finds her jo jo

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