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THE GOVERNMENT HAS announced the name of the new national children’s hospital being built in Dublin.
Once it’s opened the hospital will be called Phoenix Children’s Health.
The name was announced today by An Taoiseach Leo Varadkar and Health minister Simon Harris at an event turning the sod on two new health projects.
Construction begun on the new children’s hospital earlier this year. It will be located at the St James’s Hospital campus on the outskirts of Dublin city centre.
The project is projected to cost over €1 billion in full and is due to be completed in 2021.
When it is completed it will incorporate the staff and operations of Our Lady’s Children’s Hospital Crumlin, Temple Street Children’s University Hospital and Tallaght Hospital.
It was announced in August that the hospital will be fully secular.
The government came in for criticism yesterday after it was revealed by the Sunday Times that the board of the new hospital were challenging three fire safety conditions contained in its planning permission.
Speaking today, Harris said having a name for the new hospital made the project “even more real and meaningful”.
In a statement, the Department of Health said that the name “symbolises the birth of new opportunities”.
“The Phoenix is a mythological symbol of renewal, community regeneration, vision, hope and inspiration,” the statement reads.
It is a fitting and apt name for a service which will have a profound impact on the lives of children and their families in Ireland for generations to come.
Both Varadkar and Harris turned the sod on two new healthcare projects today.
A new children’s hospital outpatient centre at Connolly Hospital and the redevelopment of the National Rehabilitation Hospital in Dun Laoghaire into a 120-bed facility.
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@GizmoIrl: Stupid name for a hospital. What about The Royal Dublin children’s hospital?????
@Danny foley: What about, The Leo Varadkar hospital for very small people???
@Danny foley: Why would the word Royal be inserted into an Irish modern building?
@Joseph Bloggs: It’s catchy and fun? Give something for the papers to write about.
@Danny foley: Or for children of people who get up early in the morning
@Danny foley: why royal, we don’t have royalty in Ireland so why name is Royal Children’s Hospital why not just The National Children’s Hospital NCH for short.
@GizmoIrl: Due to open 2021.. Fully staffed by 2031.
@Danny foley: This is Ireland not Britain. Royal what ???????
@Danny foley:
It’s not Royal and it’s a National hospital, not a Dublin one.
The National Children’s Hospital would have done fine
@Brendan Mason: Whats wrong with “National Childrens Hospital” Neutral name. Suits everyone.
@Tom Harpur: “why royal, we don’t have royalty in Ireland so why name is Royal Children’s Hospital why not just The National Children’s Hospital NCH for short.”
The National Concert Hall don’t have a medical department.
@GizmoIrl: Put it in the Park.
@Danny foley:
Nice bit of sh*t stirring there Danny.
@Danny foley: there’s no need for royal or saint to be in the name of the new hospital…
@Danny foley: that’s funny Danny. What about the Most Holy Royal Saint Majesty Bankers Hospital for the Offspring of Plebs. Get in all past oppressors in one go.
@Danny foley: the royal? No thanks
@Danny foley: perfect but why royal?
It should be called
‘This is a HUGE mistake’
Or
Wrong location’
@moneymaid: hope they build a car park first as parking for staff should be the first priority. Its disgraceful that frontline nursing staff have to come in earlier just so they get a parking place.
The nuns will be gutted that there isn’t an auld St. preceding the name of the hospital.
@Paul Quirke: At least it’s still named after something make believe, so the nuns have that.
7 comments. All negative. Typical.
@Aidan Mitchell: the name is brilliant, it’s fantastic that this project has started, it is wonderful and amazing that it will be completed in 2021 and the politicians have done an amazing job on this, as has everyone else involved. Then Irish health service is wonderful and all is rosy in the garden. The Irish Health service is in great condition and we have the best politicians and health administrators in the world.
I smoked some Varadkar this morning.
@Aidan Mitchell: In fairness, my negative comment was about the atrocious grammar used by the journalist and not the issues of abysmal planning and massive cost overruns.
@Martin Flood: Martin, you get a free pass.
@Fiona deFreyne: nobody mentioned any of that, but it’s clear you opened this article with your big negative hat on ready to give it both barrels despite what the article might say.
Typically just use every article to vent your anger at everything that is wrong with everyone and everything.
Some day, maybe, we might start to appreciate something and maybe look on the brightside. It’s amazing what can be done with a positive outlook and giving things the chance to succeed rather than counting the time until it fails and then say I told you so. This country thrives on being bloody miserable. Or maybe it’s just 95% of journal Contributers. (fact check my 95%. It could be 96.)
@Aidan Mitchell: you failed to address my first comment in time.
When we start describing poorly conceived and poorly executed projects as positive and adopt positive outlooks on negative aspects, that is just la la land.
Here is the deal. You stop being so negative and whiney about critical comments and just content yourself with your positive comments. Stop being so highly negative and judgmental. Just adopt the positive outlook that you profess to have.
@Aidan Mitchell: this country couldn’t even get building a children’s hospital right, something no one could be against. It really is a reflection on the state of this country.
@Aidan Mitchell: Ironically your comment is a tad on the negative side too.
What a place to build it, why does everything have to be in a built up area, Croker, the Aviva and now this, these planners !!!
@Slim Browne: have you ever been to Twickeneham?
@Ruairi Fahy: no I havent, im not concerned about Twickenham, if ur gonna tell me its in a built up area then thats up to them, it doesmt have to be like for like, just an odd time these planners shud think outside the box, its going to be chaos when its up and running.
Build the Hospital. They probably spent a million quid on a ‘Panel’ to come up with the name. Countless millions spent and not one Brick Laid.
@Rory Toner: There will be no bricks laid, its a concrete frame with stone rainscreen.
What’s wrong with calling it the National Children’s Hospital . Simple and clear. Does Phoenix mean it’s proximity to the Phoenix Park or to the mythical bird rising from the ashes.
@Aine O Connor: Tallaght is already called that
@Platypus Parcel:
Is it I thought that this new hospital was to be the Hospital for the whole of Ireland.
@Platypus Parcel:
I never heard anyone refer to Tallaght Hospital as the National Childrens Hospital .
@Aine O Connor:
When Tallaght hospital was first built it was known as the “Adelaide and Meath Hospital incorporating the National Children’s Hospital”, as these were the three hospitals which amalgamated to that site. It has only recently changed its name to Tallaght hospital.
@Aine O Connor: The National Children’s Hospital at Tallaght is comprised of a children’s emergency department, children’s x-ray, children’s outpatient’s department, children’s operating theatre and the following ward areas:
@Christine Hanway: When you google Children’s Hospitals Dublin it is referred to as The National Children’s Hospital.
@Aine O Connor: in Harcourt Street it was called National Children’s hospital but since its in Tallaght it automatically gets called Tallaght but the actual name is NCH
I’m sure during some conversation in the future someone will say “I’m heading up to St. Phoenix’s”
I think it’s easier to get to the other hospitals….
@Ian Bevan:
Surely that depends where you are coming from?
What are the three fire safety conditions which are being challenged? Have they real fire safety implications?
@Fiona deFreyne: sprinkler system i think ,they reckon it does not need one,bit of irony here as the Phoenix rose from the ashes
@Fiona deFreyne: Sprinkler system and automatically descending fire curtains that would segment a fire from spreading across large open areas. It will be a huge issue if they give the hospital an exemption considering other similar buildings e.g large nursing homes have been forced to put them in at astronomical expense.
“Construction begun…”?
@Martin Flood: No Martin. Not a brick laid and mill
@Martin Flood: “Construction began” or using the past participle, “construction has begun”. “Begun” should not be used without the past participle but it is a very long time since I attended school and so I may be overly old fashioned about this.
@Fiona deFreyne: In the tracker mortgage story apparently the committee “tore the heads off the Central Bank”. We’re not far off “d witness seen it happen dat nite”.
I wonder of the significance of “Phoenix” occurred to those who adopted the name.
@Fiona deFreyne:
Hopefully it won’t burn down :/
@Lily: chuckle. You got it!
The hospital should be named the “all seeing eye of Horus”.
Sounds like the name of a first aid tent in a Harry Potter Theme Park…..
@Scally Mc Waggle: Sounds like a brothel.
It sounds like the name of a private clinic ! but I like it.
@Catherine Mc: I thought it sounded like a private clinic too. A bit American sounding. Probably make it easier to sell off in the future to some investment fund.
Good name seeing as how they’re trying to cut corners on fire regs
@Kevin Slater:
I don’t think you understand the fire regulations
Due to be completed in 2021 does not mean that it will actually be completed by 2021.
The appeal against the 3 fire safety conditions may add significantly to the time line.
@Fiona deFreyne:
‘The appeal against the 3 fire safety conditions may add significantly to the time line.’
What are u basing that on?
@Nick Allen: on the planning process which may delay the advance of construction.
@Fiona deFreyne:
There was always going to appeals to the application. It would be remiss not to review and appeal some of the decisions. Timings for appeals will have been considered in the overall delivery date. There is nothing to suggest that this could result in ‘significant delays’. Building a 1BN euro hospital is going to have its ups and downs an they just need to be managed.
@Nick Allen: so can you point me to the critical path timeline on this showing the time allowed for Planning appeals? How much time has been allocated the planning appeals delays?
@Fiona deFreyne:
Love the attempted use of buzz words. But if you understood what you were saying you would realise that time allowed for something would not appear on a critical path, that is only for milestones! Just like you I do not have a copy of the plan so therefore neither of us has ANY BASIS to suggest a significant delay. That is just conjecture on your part. If you know anything about project planning you would agree that there will be time build into the plans for this.
Rialto Childrens Hospital
1. Its near Rialto Luas Stop
2. Rialto gives geographical context to visitors who do not know the location
What was wrong with The National Paediatric Hospital?
at least by calling if Phoenix children’s health it’ll never get confused with the Phoenix park hospital. no danger of anyone taking a wrong turn on their way to the place ..
@Dean Anderson: There’s no such place. You’re thinking of St Mary’s Hospital.
Sounds like the name of the first aid tent in a Harry Potter Theme Park…..
Rolls right off the tongue. Phoenix Children’s Health Hospital
If it ends up with no sprinkler system, they can name it The Grenfell Children’s Hospital…
So they want to build a hospital and have “Phoenix” in the name AND they want to remove certain fire safety equipment from it.
@Alan Macken: Probaby more accessible too!
I’m sure during some conversation in the future someone will say “I’m heading up to St. Phoenix’s”
It should be called “it’s a miracle this ever got built” hospital.
Who came up with a stupid name like that…
@Thomas Meaney: Garry Adams and Mary lou.
@Thomas Meaney:
I would hazard a guess that it is called after the Phoenix Park which is located about 1 Km away. The park in the English language named ‘Phoenix Park’ comes from the Irish ‘fionn uisce’ meaning ‘clear water’ which I assume is referring to the river which the park is on the banks of.
@Nick Allen: jaysus Nick I’ve just been educated. Back in my non city Tipperary box for me. Could they not have come up with an Irish name for it though. Even “the Fionn Uisce” hospital would have been a tad better. Shortened to “the Fionn Hospital”
I dunno. Just throwing it out there.
@Thomas Meaney:
I agree, the name doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue. I suspect most people will just call it the Children’s hospital or still call it James’ Hospital.
Somebody’s been watching too much Fair City
More appropriate to call it “Turkey” Children’s Health
Phoenix mythical beast being reborn after incendiary death.
Don’t think our pediatric colleagues are that good yet.
And now they will definitely need the full sprinkler system installed to prevent headlines like “Phoenix hospital goes up in flames”
@Julie Wine: The hospital is going to rise like a phoenix.
Doesn’t a Phoenix rise from the ashes? God forbi in light of their wanting to cut corners on Fire Regs this is never brought to bear.. Stupid name for a Hospital…
@Lydia McLoughlin: **forbid**
Who comes up with this sh $t? At least finish it off; Phoenix children’s health care facility???
Wow it has a name…..so has the cork events centre!
For small minded people don’t you think danny
Is it near the Phoenix Park? If it’s not then I think it’s a silly name.
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