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Forensics officers at the scene where Mawere's body was discovered Niall Carson/PA Wire/Press Association Images

Junior minister to meet family of murdered student in Malawi

Joe Costello will meet the family of Rudo Mawere, whose body was found in a luggage bag in an alleyway.

JUNIOR MINISTER JOE Costello will meet the family of murdered student Rudo Mawere during an aid trip to her home country of Malawi.

Costello said he wanted to pay his condolences to loved ones of the 26-year-old, whose body was found in a luggage bag on a street in north Dublin city.

A post-mortem found that she had died from asphyxiation before her remains were stuffed into the bag and taken to the alleyway in Cabra.

“Rudo’s untimely and tragic death shocked and saddened us all,” said Costello, the Minister of State for Trade and Development who is also a TD for north inner-city Dublin.

I wanted to take time during my visit in Malawi to personally convey that sympathy and support to the Mawere family.

The chief suspect in the murder investigation was found dead several days later in Kent, England. He is thought to have taken his own life.

During the trip Costello will also view the results of Ireland’s aid programme to the country, and meet with local politicians and NGO leaders. Ireland is expected to provide €10.5million in aid to the impoverished African country this year.

The junior minister said aid efforts were focusing on research to develop more robust crops, and training to support smallholder farmers.

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    Mute Sean Murnin
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    May 26th 2018, 8:37 AM

    Thank you England and the NHS for your care and compassion towards Irish women. We’ll take it from here.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:39 AM

    @Sean Murnin: ah not quite to be fair, do you not think people are making the journey today? Very disappointing.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:47 AM

    @Free comment ratings: Unfortunately women will still have to make the journey today. My heart breaks for them and the women who suffered unnecessarily because of the 8th. At least my daughter will have a choice when she grows up.

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    Mute El Diego
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    May 26th 2018, 9:20 AM

    @Sean Murnin: yes the NHS which terminates 190,000 lives a year and through 15,500 into hospital furnaces until they were caught. It’s a model system.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:51 AM

    @El Diego: Better than throwing them in septic tanks!

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    May 26th 2018, 9:53 AM

    @El Diego: can you reference that please? Or is it our religion fuelled anger not being able to still control women that has you saying this

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    May 26th 2018, 10:01 AM
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    May 26th 2018, 10:13 AM

    @Sean Murnin: eventually..until new legislation comes in women will still be travelling to the UK

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    May 26th 2018, 10:18 AM

    @helen walsh: I know. See my second comment.

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    May 26th 2018, 10:21 AM

    @El Diego: ah give it up the people have spoken. Your scare tactics don’t work and didn’t work get over it

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    May 26th 2018, 10:44 AM

    @El Diego: Stick your head in the sand and pretend it’s not happening. That tactic seems to have worked well for the no side over the last 35 years.

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    May 26th 2018, 12:19 PM

    @Sean Murnin: is it?

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    May 26th 2018, 12:21 PM

    @Darren Norris: Darren, Darren, are you still there? Look, stick your head in the sand and pretend that baby parts were not used to heat 27 NHS hospitals in the UK. Did you say religious? What’s that got to do with it? RTE exit poll, 74% declared themselves as RCC. Nice try though.

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    May 26th 2018, 12:39 PM

    @Free comment ratings: It’s a 20 minute flight for 20 quid.They’re not exactly hiking the pyrenees.

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    May 26th 2018, 12:39 PM

    @Sean Murnin: brilliant… just brilliant

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    May 26th 2018, 12:39 PM

    @Sean Murnin: brilliant… just brilliant

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    May 26th 2018, 12:48 PM

    @Shy Tall Knight: I know. But he said we’ll take it from here..hardly when people are making that journey today. We will take it over at some point but at the moment.

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    May 26th 2018, 1:02 PM

    @Free comment ratings: pedantic
    pɪˈdantɪk/Submit
    adjective
    excessively concerned with minor details or rules; overscrupulous.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:09 AM

    Little by little the Church is loosing control over the state. Next up getting rid of their influence on education. Again Iona and their ilk will protest, again the people will have their say.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:13 AM

    @Toon Army: totally agree no need for religion in schools

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    May 26th 2018, 8:14 AM

    @Toon Army: *Losing-don’t be in such a hurry to get rid of any influence on education just yet.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:36 AM

    @Cassie Lyons: Religion and education are like water and oil, they just don’t mix.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:52 AM

    @Cassie Lyons: religion is the denial of fact so that faith can be preserved, it has no place in the classroom.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:25 AM

    @Toon Army: whoever is counting that tally in Carlow is marking in blocks of 6 instead of 5. That will have to be redone

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    May 26th 2018, 9:31 AM

    @Toon Army: Iona need a new cause now u r spot on it will be keep religion in schools

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    May 26th 2018, 9:32 AM

    @Cassie Lyons: a lot of us are superstitious scary fairy tales have no place in education

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    May 26th 2018, 9:37 AM

    @Toon Army: this was an abortion debate. It!’s said that the angry atheists have seen this as a church issue. Go down and throw rocks at the pensioners hobbling into mass to satisfy your bigotry and let the adults debate the rights and wrongs of our new abortion regime.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:39 AM

    @Toon Army: Didn’t you even understand the question you were asked to vote on?……Little by little the public is losing control over the state.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:42 AM

    @Markonline: I wasn’t aware a royal decree was issued yesterday? Oh wait, McQuaid died years ago!

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    May 26th 2018, 9:44 AM

    @Toon Army: By adults you mean let the politicians, right? although clearly, they should end up with similar to what was proposed at this stage/ but not necessarily the exact same.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:49 AM

    @Shane McGettrick: You and many others by the looks of it.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:49 AM

    @El Diego: You’re on the wrong side of history Diego but there’s still plenty of room, come join us!

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    May 26th 2018, 10:03 AM

    @Toon Army: Teacher here. Wholeheartedly agree. The sooner the better.

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    May 26th 2018, 10:28 AM

    @Toon Army: euthanasia is the next one.

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    May 26th 2018, 11:15 AM

    @Toon Army: The turn out was very strong overall showing real engagement in the process. However, I have seen so many comments and heard so many people refer to the church regarding this vote. If people really have used this as a vote against the church then it really is a sad day, not for women, but for everyone.

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    May 26th 2018, 11:33 AM

    @Nick Drake: According to the exit polls the main reason people voted yes was based on the shocking personal stories of the lives of women who were affected by this draconian amendment. An amendment that yes, had the full backing of the Church. It’s a sad day when, even after the people have clearly spoken, the no side will continue to deflect, speculate and ignore the facts.

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    May 26th 2018, 11:57 AM

    @Johnny Leddin: I’ll be seeing you in the confessional tomorrow Johnny boy!

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    May 26th 2018, 12:23 PM

    @Toon Army: 74% who voted declared themselves as RCC. How does that stand with your religious bigotry?

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    May 26th 2018, 12:26 PM

    @El Diego: I think we’ve seen the reality behind hose figured today.

    Hopefully we’ll see the end of the RCCs influence in schools next and then, truly, finally they’re finished as a political force here.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:18 AM

    This was a woman’s health and rights issue. Polling stations were full of mothers and daughters going together to vote and it was great to see the men in this country out to support thier wives , daughters , sisters and mother’s whom have been denied the right to medical care .

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    May 26th 2018, 10:06 AM

    @Darren moore: Indeed, that’s what it was advertised as, but not what you voted for.

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    May 26th 2018, 10:44 AM

    @Markonline I’m sure Darren knows wfat he voted for. You on the other hand are probably a little clueless about what you voted against.

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    May 26th 2018, 11:09 AM

    @Markonline: incorrect . One side tried to advertise this as an abortion ref . Anyway I respect everyone’s beliefs and it appears the majority have the belief woman in this country are more than capable of choosing their own healthcare decisions . I also respect those that put there opinion out in public but not so sure about anonymous people online spouting all sorts ……

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    May 26th 2018, 12:02 PM

    @Markonline: indeed. But they are as blind as the blind can be.

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    May 26th 2018, 1:12 PM

    @Dell: It was a very simple question that was put to the public, yet you still can’t quite grasp it. Why couldn’t we enshrine the right to have an abortion into the constitution?….no no that would have been too complex for you to vote for so now you don’t have to bother your little head about it and let others decide for you instead….maybe it is for the best after all if this is the level of foresight in this country.

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    May 26th 2018, 1:26 PM

    @Darren moore: But that is not what was achieved….I agree that each situation is unique and can only be decided fairly by the individuals involved, but that is not what happened is it? Instead, the country has voted to let the government of the day decide the “law for the regulation of termination of pregnancy”….Hitler couldn’t have worded it better.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:14 PM

    @mark online talking to people the way you are now doing in a condescending, self righteous manner and not truly listening is exactly why you and others made this a landslide victory.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:09 AM

    This is a big blow for “the gammon heads” stuck in the 1950s Ireland. The more the Healy Rae , Mattie , Ronan Mullen etc appeared on TV the more they convinced the population to vote yes.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:19 AM

    @Jimmy jones: can you not just win with style and grace and not polarize the other side?

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    May 26th 2018, 8:21 AM

    @Fergus Sheahan:
    He’s right.
    I don’t think such a marginal Yes vote would have been possible without the condescending behavior, question dodging and offensive replies from the likes of Maria Steen, Peadar Toibin, Mattie Mc Grath and Ronan Mullen. Intellectual suicide on national television.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:24 AM

    @Jimmy jones: the no side has been lying through their teeth again and again so where was their style and grace then? Don’t get me wrong, no need to open champagne bottles if the yes wins but some of the stuff the no side has said… they don’t have my respect – will respect them in the result of the referendum but note they don’t deserve much of this respect imo

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    May 26th 2018, 8:42 AM

    @Toki Wartooth: just cause you believe they behaved badly doesn’t give licence for you to do so, we all live in the same country and have to get along…rise above it, there are bad winners as well as bad losers

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    May 26th 2018, 8:54 AM

    @Fergus Sheehan : I didn’t win anything .

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    May 26th 2018, 9:04 AM

    @Jimmy jones: and you never will!

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    May 26th 2018, 9:15 AM

    @Tweed Cap: you clearly didn’t watch the CB debate. Steen and Dr Monaghan were clearly the most well informed and capable debaters of the campaign, across the TV debates anyway.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:17 AM

    @Toki Wartooth: horrendous. Seeking to marginalise a huge swathe of the population. God help the next generation if the mini socialists get into power.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:33 AM

    @Jimmy jones: they just couldn’t see the damage they done to there own cause

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    May 26th 2018, 9:33 AM

    @Jimmy jones: they lied, lied and lied…you think misguiding electorate is OK? Fair enough then…. and note also I don’t plan to celebrate anything, I have more respect than the one displayed by some of the no voters

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    May 26th 2018, 9:39 AM

    @El Diego: and you clearly still have your head up your ass

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    May 26th 2018, 9:40 AM

    @Jimmy jones: you don’t have to insult people on the no side, their views are just as valid .

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    May 26th 2018, 9:42 AM

    @El Diego:
    Two out of every three people in Ireland disagree with you. So do I.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:44 AM

    @Jimmy jones: hahaha! The socialists are coming, beware! Relax Armando, all will be just fine

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    May 26th 2018, 9:46 AM

    @Fergus Sheahan: well said Fergus, humble in victory is a noble thing and people should look now to move forward together and not further wedge a divide with some caustic jibes like gammon.

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    May 26th 2018, 10:02 AM

    @El Diego: I remember watching that debate the no campaigners did “win” it, but lets be clear they didn’t win because they had the better argument. They won it with brute force. The no campaigners in the audience on the night acted disgracefully and all steen did was shout.
    Monaghan showed about as much empathy towards crisis pregnancies as snake does for a mouse.
    But saying that the referendum is over (nearly). It might be good idea for some people that are bitter with the result (I’m hoping a minority of no campaigners) should probably stay away from social media for few days and try not saying inflammatory comments if unable to do so, does no one any favors except make yourself look like a fool

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    May 26th 2018, 10:22 AM

    @Fergus Sheahan: nope they need to be held accountable for there lies intolerance and poisonous hatred

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    May 26th 2018, 10:45 AM

    @Celtic_Horizon: it’s great that yes won but nobody can deny that some people on both sides acted horribly. Hopefully people accept winning gracefully , not that there are any winners really, without having to go and tear down the other side. We won, time for the fighting to end.

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    May 26th 2018, 10:59 AM

    @El Diego: steen ha ha came across like Katie Hopkins she was a disaster

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    May 26th 2018, 11:03 AM

    @Mickey Fennessy: it was passed democratically now lets look forward, in what way would a witch hunt be in anyway beneficial other that to serve your selfrigheousness?, that poisonous hatred when both ways

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    May 26th 2018, 12:24 PM

    @thatsnotme: that makes two of us so.

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    May 26th 2018, 12:28 PM

    @Celtic_Horizon: you used the word “win” not me. I certainly am not bitter. I’m not a religious bigot and I am in favour of abortion for hard cases just not on demand. My conscience is clear. It’s the sad Yes triumphalists and angry atheists (equivalent of bible bashers) who need to stay off social media.

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    May 26th 2018, 5:32 PM

    @Jimmy jones: I’d respect them more than the cowardly politicians who changed their mind once the tide changed.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:12 AM

    Ireland has shown it’s not being dictated to by the Catholic Church any longer after the marriage equality vote and now what looks like a resounding yes (judging by the exit polls).
    I’m savouring my coffee this morning with no bitter aftertaste.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:19 AM

    @Keith Synnott: good man. Put a bit if sugar in it for the lost lives over the next few years. You do realise that this was a vote on abortion and not the Pope’s popularity. The angry atheists seem confused this morning.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:32 AM

    @el Diego You are the only one who seems angry and I came across a few of you over the past few weeks and none were atheists.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:35 AM

    @El Diego: incorrect. Where does it state abortion on the 8th amendment? I’m quite aware it will mean a new law will be put on front of the dail to be passed on abortion but at the moment, the 8th is about the rights of the unborn.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:52 AM

    @El Diego: cop yourself on, no-one is demanding anybody have an abortion but it’s about bloody time that the choice for women is there, if they need one they can have one in their own country, if they don’t want one, don’t have one, no-one is being forced, it’s called CHOICE !!!!!!!!

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    May 26th 2018, 10:24 AM

    @El Diego: this might come as a shock to you but Irish women were having abortions before the vote…

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    May 26th 2018, 10:53 AM

    @El Diego: I’m neither an atheist or angry but you keep labelling and pigeon holing people sure, it’ll do wonders for you . I’m actually very happy today and anyone that respects a woman’s right to determine her own future will be too.

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    May 26th 2018, 12:00 PM

    @Keith Synnott: wow! Enjoying your coffee celebrating the mass murder of thousands of babies. Awesome.

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    May 26th 2018, 12:30 PM

    @Daniel O’Hara: did you not read the proposed legislation? You should have read it before you voted to remove the protection of right to life to our unborn.

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    May 26th 2018, 12:32 PM

    @monika it was this kind of hyperbolic claptrap that made so many yes voters not engage with the love boats. You may have had some chance of changing people’s minds if you were a little less inclined to be so judgmental and plain old nasty to deal with.

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    May 26th 2018, 12:33 PM

    @Keith Synnott: unfortunately for you Keith you sought to make a religious point out of what was a moral debate. Just so you know, 74% of those who voted yesterday declared themselves as RC yesterday. You should thank the members of the RC Church because they delivered the Yes result.

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    May 26th 2018, 1:13 PM

    @El Diego: The church have been preaching how good Catholics must vote no from the pulpit leading up to this so my point is very valid and not unfortunate.

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    May 26th 2018, 1:33 PM

    @El Diego: 74% being RC just proves my
    point that they ignored the churches opinion. Thanks for that.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:30 AM

    May I also add that I’m delighted Ireland resisted the onslaught of foreign interference in our democratic process.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:04 AM

    Ohhh yes!

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    May 26th 2018, 8:11 AM

    @shellakybooky: zzzzzz

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    May 26th 2018, 8:11 AM

    @shellakybooky: what legislation replaces it?

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    May 26th 2018, 8:16 AM

    @FPL Thommo: says the fantasy football lover.zzzzzzzzzzzz

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    May 26th 2018, 8:25 AM

    Mullen, Iona, Steen and the rest have been consigned to the wrong side of history.
    The vote is a massive mandate for change, the fence sitters in the Dail need to realise that a sea change has occurred.

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    May 26th 2018, 10:01 AM

    @DJ François: It makes me wonder how Ronán Mullen keeps getting elected to the Seanad. How transparent is that process? Is the counting done in public?

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    May 26th 2018, 11:32 AM

    @DJ François:
    The same way Ivana Batchick gets into Seanad Eireann.

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    May 26th 2018, 11:42 AM

    @Jack McGready: But it would seem her views are in tune with the majority, so graduates electing her makes absolute sense. Graduates electing Mullen seems to make no sense.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:35 AM

    The women of Ireland wake to a new dawn. There’s more that needs to be done. I hope this victory gives them the strength, courage and determination to continue the fight for the issues women feel are necessary to improve their lives.

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    May 26th 2018, 12:47 PM

    @Dave Doyle: contraceptives of all kinds should be readily available for all.

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    May 26th 2018, 1:37 PM

    @Dave Doyle: Couples you mean. Hopefully consent will need to be given by the Father to murder the unborn.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:23 AM

    Without a doubt a yes vote… I feel it appropriate to divulge I voted no as I comment to be open and honest.

    Lets truly hope the resultant legislation does indeed address the true crisis situations as passionately presented correctly by the yes side and stops short of abortion on demand as feared by the no side and which is also not what was advocated by the yes side as presented.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:54 AM

    @Ken Maycock: look at all the other European countries…life goes on, kids are born and loved…you live in a better country today, I really hope you see it like this during the coming months.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:24 AM

    @Ken Maycock: it is abortion on demand Ken. That’s what was voted for yesterday. Other countries are trying to restrict their abortion laws we’re introducing liberal abortion on demand allegedly for the “hard cases”. Not the solution.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:31 AM

    @Toki Wartooth: if it abortion is only used for those true crisis situations, as I rightly believe it should be then I agree 100%

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    May 26th 2018, 9:34 AM

    @El Diego: We can but hope the legislation that is ultimately ratified and passed through the dail in coming months stops short of abortion on demand as feared by NO side, myself included, and denied by the YES side. Either way, the sooner the terms YES side and NO side vanish the better…. compassion was unfortunately lost in some aspects of this debate. Compassion needs to be brought back amd put inwaveringly at the forefront of every discussion about this topic.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:36 AM

    @Ken Maycock: Once on-demand abortion is in, it will take another generation to restrict it to hard cases only. Damn this stupid government for making the choice a simple yes or no.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:46 AM

    @Ken Maycock: stop lying mate…enough is enough…

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    May 26th 2018, 9:49 AM

    @Martin Flood: i hope you’re wrong but I share your fear. If the draft legislation presented as the alternative was narrower and focused on the true crisis situations then the referendum would have passed with a near as makes no difference 100% agreement.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:58 AM

    @Toki Wartooth: Trolls up early today. What I have is said is 100% the truth of what I feel and believe. Lets keep this discussion respectful and compassionate, lets remember whats going to happen as a result. Happy to engage in discussion….. consider anything else ignored

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    May 26th 2018, 10:46 AM

    @El Diego: grrr

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    May 26th 2018, 11:11 AM

    @Ken Maycock: it’s as if the no side thinks without a restriction in place the country will descend to into chaos and every women will thoughtlessly have a abortions for fun.

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    May 26th 2018, 12:28 PM

    @Seth Cheffetz: They’re you’re words not mine. You can be sure, with abortion on demand, there will be abortions for reasons that would go against our own moral beliefs regardless of where you ait in this discussion. I absolutely appreciate that decision is likely the most difficult that’ll be taken in that ladies life and I 100% empathise and wouldnt wish anyone to be in that situation.

    I agree with choice in crisis situations as very well presented by the YES position, incest/rape/fatal abnormaility etc. I dont agree with choice carte blanche… and Im sure thats where we disagree.

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    May 26th 2018, 12:36 PM

    @Ken Maycock: well said and I agree. Unfortunately the government have likely missed their chance to legislate for those hard cases. I hope that the majority in the Dail push on that Head 7 but given that FG worded that through Noone I don’t see that happening.

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    May 26th 2018, 1:16 PM

    @Ken Maycock: still clinging on to hope you can repress the rights of women for a situation that will never impact your life ever?

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    May 26th 2018, 2:03 PM

    @Seth Cheffetz: actually he makes some valid points unlike yourself.

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    May 26th 2018, 2:12 PM

    @Seth Cheffetz: If you want to make an informed point rather than an attempted slight on my character knowing nothing about me Im happy to engage

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    May 26th 2018, 8:26 AM

    Thank f#kc it’s all over. Look like the right decision is made. Now onto living our lives in a progressive country.

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    May 26th 2018, 10:32 AM

    @Mark H: Yea killing unborn babies is so progressive.

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    May 26th 2018, 12:42 PM

    @Steve1234: boil yer head.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:35 AM

    Fantastic result but it’s not something to celebrate, laugh or cheer about. It will not be a happy experience for any women to have an abortion here or elsewhere

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    May 26th 2018, 8:41 AM

    @Deborah O’Lorcain: It’s absolutely something to celebrate – Ireland has given women autonomy over their own bodies. And while ‘happy’ may not be the right word regarding abortion, for many it will be a blessed relief. I respect that.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:42 AM

    @Deborah O’Lorcain: I will celebrate.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:45 AM

    @Deborah O’Lorcain: Exactly, it’s not something you celebrate or start cheering about, you can be happy about it, but jumping up, clapping and cheering about it in public is not appropriate for this one, some serious morons out there in fairness

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    May 26th 2018, 8:54 AM

    @Negan Lucille: I bet when the result is officially announced their will be people jumping up and down celebrating. I for one will not be calling the morons.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:01 AM

    @Deborah O’Lorcain: I agree with you! It’s a bittersweet victory. Yes finally many women will be able to get help that they truly need but let’s not forgot that it’s also the loss of a life. I cannot celebrate that.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:01 AM

    @Free comment ratings: That’s coz you are also one

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    May 26th 2018, 9:17 AM

    @Deborah O’Lorcain: I am celebrating for pregnant women who will now have the right to informed consent to medical procedures undergone whilst pregnant – a right denied by the 8th.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:23 AM

    @Deborah O’Lorcain: Exactly. Too many people treating this as some kind of competition. Not appropriate to celebrate in the streets for this one. Sure its great that women have a choice now but lets not forget that children will also die because of this. But I’m sure the repeal jumper hipster brigade will be out in force anyways for the party

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    May 26th 2018, 9:31 AM

    @Ciarān: well said Ciaran 100%. Ignorance is bliss. I sincerely hope that we don’t turn around in 3/4 years time like UK/US and think, how do we control this? A life is lost with every procedure. That’s some cross to bear. The hipsters will realise this when they reach the age of parenthood.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:46 AM

    @Ciarān: “repeal jumper hipster brigade” how wrong can you be? 1000s of doctors and midwives and others that work with women day in day out and actually know what the 8th means came out for yes. It’s not some fashion, it’s real peoples lives.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:51 AM

    @Deborah O’Lorcain: Its a pragmatic decision but we still haven’t adressed why so many woman have crisis pregnancys. This isnt winning its just dealing with the realities. Well done for showing a little bit of class which has sadly been missing from the debate.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:57 AM

    @Ciarān: agree..It’s really saddening how far removed these people are from the reality of the trauma of abortion, to be celebrating like they are is really upsetting for those who have had abortions, it’s truly a tragic, awful experience to go through that I wouldn’t wish on any woman. It seems to be about ‘winning’ for a lot of them and a reaction to the past and the reign of the church rather than a realistic look at what abortion is. If euthanasia was brought in (which I fully support because it’s that person’s choosing and their own body NOBODY else’s involved) I doubt there’d be people drinking and partying. Very weird.

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    May 26th 2018, 11:28 AM

    @Ciarān: I just saw someone post a photo on Instagram saying ‘we are the champions’ which proved to me that some people really did just see it as a competition and it’s really disappointing to see.

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    May 26th 2018, 11:39 AM

    @sam harms alternatively they have been taking massive amounts of abuse for months while working towards achieving a goal for women to have control and a say in their own reproductive health and they are celebrating same. I see nothing wrong with people celebrating this at all. No one is celebrating abortion and if you think they are, you really got this whole thing completely wrong.

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    May 26th 2018, 11:55 AM

    @Dell: people can celebrate respectfully without saying stuff like we are the champions. There’s no need to gloat or rub it in the face of people who voted no.

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    May 26th 2018, 12:14 PM

    @sam harms they must be awfully fragile if that Is too much for them. Why the hell should they not express happiness anyway they want? For crying out loud do people want to control that now too?

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    May 26th 2018, 12:17 PM

    @Christina Melia: you are sickening, women body over the life of a human being. Some values you have.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:02 AM

    Hard to believe it, really. A few months ago I would never have thought that Ireland was ready to vote in such an emphatic manner to legalise abortion. This is pending legislation of course, but with such a likely clear majority yes vote, it surely can’t be stopped now. Well done to our politicians, this was always going to be a gamble once it was not just about the hard cases, but the gamble paid off. Not a time to gloat, as a strong yes supporter I always fully understood the position and arguments of the no side, despite disagreeing. I think we all have friends and family members on the opposite side, and I genuinely feel for them now. But we had to do this in my mind, it was no longer an option for things to continue in the way they were.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:08 AM

    @Adrian: very well said.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:31 AM

    Ireland has come out of the dark age where the Church ruled every fact of life. No more will it hold such a sway in Irish life, the Pope is coming to a different nation and for those who will go see him it’s their choice s free choice like the women in Ireland who will no longer have to travel to Britain for an abortion.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:32 AM

    @Mick12: you do realise that this was an abortion referendum and not a vote on who goes to mass, yes. Atheist Ireland are out in force.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:51 AM

    @Mick12: I think you are a logical person so follow the logic. Ireland was a tremendously influenced country by the Catholic Church, hence the 8th amendment. The church is losing support everywhere because we live in the 21st century now – and because they have been involved in too many scandals also, with children included!!! – hence the 8th amendment has been voted and it is gone. I am all about religion but not when it dictates critical functions within a society. Now you can say I am an atheist socialist murderer of babies if that makes you feel OK diegito

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    May 26th 2018, 10:14 AM

    @Mick12: Just because something is modern does not make it progressive !

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    May 26th 2018, 11:49 AM

    @Mick12: True but nothing is ever that straightforward. Dark clouds from the east gather above us.

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    May 26th 2018, 12:14 PM

    @Toki Wartooth: mr so smart in your own view, murdering children has NOTHING TO DO WITH religion or any church; but it has everything to do with ethics, morals and compassion, which are (clearly not in this nation) the very essence of humanity. You are so obsessed with the Catholic Church agenda that you all yes voters didn’t mind to condemn innocent ones to death. You condemn the Catholic Church for raping children, yet you voted to kill children yourself, so how are you any different, how are any better??? Shame on you all!

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    May 26th 2018, 12:29 PM

    @monika shame on you for equating the life and health of a woman to that of a foetus. See how this works.. We could be going over and back with the dishing out of shame but that is and was always pointless. It may make you feel better but it will change nothing for anyone else.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:06 AM

    Abortion preys on the poor, it’s sad to say but the most vulnerable in our society will use this new arrangement the most. What an awful day for this nation.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:07 AM

    @Rambon: lolz

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    May 26th 2018, 8:09 AM

    @Rambon: ehh stop talking rubbish now

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    May 26th 2018, 8:14 AM

    @DrRexButts: They sure have spoken and I will respect the result. But if you think I am sad and delusional you are sorely mistaken.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:29 AM

    @Rambon: sadness will pass. You live in a better country today, hopefully you will realise about this in the future when you see that people keep on having babies and loving them. To think that women will abort just for the craic is a bit of s stretch and even if a minority do it think about the greater good this will bring for other cases.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:37 AM

    @Rambon: 69% disagrees with you.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:14 AM

    @Rambon: young socially disadvantaged mothers are at high risk of suicide. Access to early abortion services could have saved these women’s lives: https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/suicide-on-the-rise-among-mothers-in-poorer-dublin-areas-1.3502336%3fmode=amp

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    May 26th 2018, 9:25 AM

    @Bat Daly: so 1 in 3 agree with him. That’s a very significant number.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:37 AM

    @ el Diego it’s significant only in that it means that it is a significant minority. If the exit polls are right, we are now living in an ireland that doesn’t allow the likes of you to dictate over women in crisis situations anymore. Long live this Republic.

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    May 26th 2018, 10:11 AM

    @Rambon: go back to sleep will ya

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    May 26th 2018, 10:32 AM

    @Ciara Dowling: What has that got to do with abortion? Research has shown that women with suicidal tendencies are actually less likely to go through with suicide if the pregnancy is carried to full term than if the baby is aborted.

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    May 26th 2018, 10:55 AM

    @Rambon: really is that why you see women on social welfare with 4 or 5 kids yet working women who desperately want a family but cant afford to are waiting until they financially settled and can support a child.

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    May 26th 2018, 12:36 PM

    @Rambon: Just delete your new Twitter account and crawl back under the rock from wence you came.

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    May 26th 2018, 12:42 PM

    @Dell: I don’t dictate to anyone Dell. We’ll leave to to Leo (imprison women or Vote Yes) and Mary Lou (Vote Yes or be disciplined). I’ve always been a repeal person, for hard cases, as you would know if you ever read my posts. I’m not in favour of abortion on demand. I just hope you and the other Yes voters are happy with Head 7 in 3 years time as this is what you have voted for.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:25 PM

    @el Diego You don’t get to decide which are “hard cases” and which aren’t.. You don’t get to decide who can and can’t have an abortion based on what you believe are good enough reasons… That is what I voted for and I’ll always I’ll be glad that the likes of you will never have a say over my body autonomy or my sisters, daughters, nieces or friends. I voted so that someone who uses the phrase abortion on demand when talking about someones personal situations and choices doesn’t have any kind of influence or say in whatever they do. I’ll never regret that.

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    May 26th 2018, 8:50 AM

    It would be great if the new legislation be called ‘Savita’s Law’ as a tribute to her and her family.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:54 AM

    @C_O’S: No. Im sure she was much more than a victim of bad law and medical negligence . Let her family and friends remember her for who she was. I hope this might bring a little comfort to her husband.

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    May 26th 2018, 11:33 AM

    @seanmccann: Her family are actually OK with calling it after her

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    May 26th 2018, 9:00 AM

    I genuinely had started to believe it wasn’t going to happen despite the positive feedback we were getting when we were leafleting and canvassing. We were in the city and we were told that it was far more promising than down the country. Well done rural Ireland. I Haven’t been on here, been out canvassing but have been checking in. Well done Francis, the risen, evie and all those who dealt with the lies and hyperbole on here. Oh and Tom Burke, wherever you are, I took your advise and got off my fat behind, thanks Tom, people like you made this happen.

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    May 26th 2018, 10:35 AM

    Good morning,Dell :) We had two Yes votes from my household.They were for my daughters,sisters,cousins and every other woman that wanted to have that 8th amendment removed from our Constitution…No need to thank me for annoying those people on here :)

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    May 26th 2018, 10:50 AM

    @Dell: morning. 3 votes in my house and 5 from the legion of women from next door also. It’s great to see that those who stuck their necks out at the beginning and took loads of abuse in the Dail and on the streets had their hard work and perceverance pay off.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:29 AM

    So happy and relieved this morning that compassion, courage and respect for the decision making of women in distress, has won the day decisively at long last.Respect to the leadership of Simon Harris, Micheal Martin and Mary Lou McDonald during the campaign.My first campaign in this country was lobbying to get rid of corporal punishment of children in our schools, this result is similar in many ways, for a kinder ,more inclusive Ireland.

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    May 26th 2018, 10:06 AM

    I voted yes, but I am ashamed of some of the behaviour of the yes voters using this as a new opportunity to mock and jeer ordinary decent religious people, I believe that extreme Liberalism is very dangerous and can be used as a vehicle to destroy our very unique irish values,

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    May 26th 2018, 10:40 AM

    @Porter Mechanic: yes, much better behaviour by the ordinary decent religious people shouting murderers at us a few weeks ago.

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    May 26th 2018, 10:49 AM

    @Porter Mechanic: I voted yes reluctantly because I don’t agree with unrestricted abortion but i know people who voted no and none of them were for religious reasons. More often than not it was the yes side bringing up religion rather than the no.

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    May 26th 2018, 10:54 AM

    @sam harms every pro life group I met were entrenched in religion. I’m not sure why people who voted no are even attempting to deny that.

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    May 26th 2018, 11:00 AM

    @Dell: not everyone in the country is represented by groups who were canvassing. I voted yes but never once engaged with anyone about it because I wanted to make up my own mind. The people I know who voted no didn’t engage with those groups either and are the least religious people I know.

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    May 26th 2018, 11:16 AM

    @samharms they were the minority within the minority then

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    May 26th 2018, 9:18 AM

    ‘and yes I said yes I will Yes’

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    May 26th 2018, 9:26 AM

    I voted yes but still remain opposed to abortion in general. If as the no campaign suggested that there is a better way now more than ever they will have the opportunity to show people what that is. They now can offer women a choice while we as a nation need no longer pretend that abortion doesn’t happen. Time to heal the rifts and for all concerned to work to make women’s health the best in the world.

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    Mute Mickey Fennessy
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    May 26th 2018, 9:36 AM

    Lies lies lies from the no side caught up with them they fought a desperate campaign

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    May 26th 2018, 8:39 AM

    Is iontach an lá é do chearta sibhialta!

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    May 26th 2018, 11:04 AM

    it’s a heart warming day to be an Irish woman. I worked as a student midwife when Savita Halapanaver tragically lost her life and it never left me. I don’t think it ever will. thank you Ireland for doing the right thing I’m helping future generations of women make their choice. #forsavita

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    May 26th 2018, 11:04 AM

    @becca laste: *in helping

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    Mute Albert Brennerman
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    May 26th 2018, 11:35 AM

    Voted No. Am No holy man here last time I was in church was a wedding. The only rights up to 12 weeks a perfectly healthy child has now is dependent on its mother.

    Maybe its the spectrum of society I see, but I don’t trust people. There will be the FFA and the victims of rapes, the woman who makes this choice once in her life through a mistake, the ones I can agree with.

    Then there’ll be those that revisit this repeatedly, those couples that choose not to have a child with a slight disability and those who’ll choose to terminate due to the lifestyle choices a pregnancy brings.

    This will be borne out in the statistics which I think will be delayed by design.

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    May 26th 2018, 1:48 PM

    @Albert Brennerman: if someone’s decides to have an abortion due to life style choices how is that any of your business? Morals are personal and you have no right to impose yours on anyone else. If someone feels like they can’t have a baby for reason such as they cannot face life as a single parent, financial reasons or it will trap them in a bad relationship then that’s their decision to make. Not yours

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    Mute Steve1234
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    May 26th 2018, 10:35 AM

    Shameful day for Ireland. Future generations will condemn this referendum the same way we condemn Magdalene Laundries and so on.

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    Mute Alex Kane
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    May 26th 2018, 10:57 AM

    But why didn’t God save the babies?

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    May 26th 2018, 10:30 AM

    History in the making, we are finally becoming a true secular Republic.

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    May 26th 2018, 11:36 AM

    I now worry about the mess that’s going to be created when the gov try and legislate for this, lets be honest good legislation seems to be rare in this country recently more a case of seen to be doing something rather than addressing difficult core problems.
    I wait to be surprised.

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    May 26th 2018, 12:01 PM

    If the yes campaign could get rid of the church next they wont even be made feel bad about murder. Thou shalt not kill.

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    May 26th 2018, 9:28 PM

    @Robert Deane: have a good look at your bible Robert. Full of killing, smite and all sorts of violence. You are a bunch of hypocrites the lot of you.

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    May 26th 2018, 12:12 PM

    Why do the left have such a hard on for abortion? Even as an atheist I think it’s a pretty disgusting and immoral act that devalues human life. It’s disturbing we’re at the point that society considers women being able to scrape a fetus out of their womb a fundamental right so they can go out and indulge in consequence free casual sex as much as they want. Whatever happened to personal responsibility?

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    May 26th 2018, 12:24 PM

    @A Curious Mind: ah yeah..those brazen hussies.

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    May 26th 2018, 2:50 PM

    @A Curious Mind: You should change your name to a sick mind.

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    Mute Jack McGready
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    May 26th 2018, 11:33 AM

    When will the final results be announced?
    The tension is unbearable, this could go either way.

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    May 26th 2018, 10:18 AM

    What happens between now and legislation? Women still having to travel to the UK?
    We need information about this.

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    May 26th 2018, 11:53 AM

    @helen walsh: nothing changes until legislation is passed. Hopefully it will happen by the end of this year, but it will be slow.

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    Mute Anthony Gallagher
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    May 26th 2018, 11:29 AM

    we are fortunate to live in a democracy ,the decision has been an emphatic yes ,the will of the people must be respected .i will always have my reservations but i am glad the result is beyond any doubt .

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    May 26th 2018, 11:13 AM

    It would be interesting to see the male/female split on both sides of the vote

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    May 26th 2018, 11:37 AM

    @John Strahan: its on the rte exitpoll a few percent lower for men voting yes.

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    Mute Keith O'Reilly
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    May 26th 2018, 1:11 PM

    So proud of the country today! The scaremongering and hysterical ranting about hypotheticals didn’t work on us!

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    May 26th 2018, 12:34 PM

    I’m at the count center in Roscommon. It’s going 58%Yes. RTE had their main media here with Catriona Perry reporting. They were expecting Roscommon to go No as the only constituency to vote against Equality. But now It is more likely to be Donegal or Longford that could possibly go No, where the vote is much closer.

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    May 26th 2018, 1:13 PM

    Unfortunately I think many on the No side will not let legislation progress easily. The majority have spoken but they don’t care about that.

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    Mute Keith McDonagh
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    May 26th 2018, 12:57 PM

    Now maybe we can focus on whatever the next big issue might be & get it sorted, hopefully quicker than this took.

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    Mute Shala
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    May 26th 2018, 2:32 PM

    What sort of a plank do you have to be to go to the polling booth and spoil your vote? Why bother!

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    May 26th 2018, 6:27 PM

    Now can we address the housing and rental debacle

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    Mute Bill ORourke
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    May 26th 2018, 11:43 AM

    Okay, so now it’s one-all. When do we get the decider???

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    Mute James Davis
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    May 26th 2018, 1:09 PM

    I voted yes and as such am pleased at the outcome. But to be honest I felt this referendum brought out a petty and at times nasty side in a lot of people. The reductive, childish attitude of people discussing it really reminded me of arguing in the primary school yard. If you were voting yes that meant you were a godless lefty who delights in the killing of babies, if you were voting no you’re were a compasionless religious zealot (who probably thinks that recent scandals in the church were no problem at all). Never any acknowledgement that for many people it wasn’t a black and white issue. It’s so easy to assume you’re right and righteous and those with an opinion different to yours are wrong and evil. But it’s never that simple and if we lose the ability to truly debate and empathize then more and more division is sadly inevitable

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    May 26th 2018, 11:49 AM

    Let’s have accurate reporting by The Journal. Constituency names don’t equate to Counties e.g. parts of South Donegal are in the Sligo/Leitrim constituency and tallies are saying they have voted in favour of repeal!

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