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Ian West

Here's what the minimum price for booze will be under new alcohol rules

A 500 ml can of Dutch Gold will cost €1.58.

NEW ALCOHOL LAWS will mean there is a minimum price placed on some of drinkers’ favourite beverages.

After a long hiatus, the Seanad debated the controversial Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015 for over eight hours yesterday.

There are a number of areas the proposed legislation addresses. The bill will set out minimum pricing – prices beneath which alcohol cannot be sold. It’s believed the minimum unit pricing will effectively ban low-cost sales of alcoholic products.

Health Minister Simon Harris was at pains to emphasis, however, that the majority of alcohol products sold in an off-licence will not be impacted at all by the proposed application of minimum unit pricing of 10 cent per gram of alcohol.

So what are the minimum costs under the new rules?

  • A 500 ml can of Guinness — €1.66
  • 750 ml bottle of Jacob’s Creek classic Chardonnay — €7.52
  • 700 ml bottle of Gordon’s dry gin — €20.71
  • 700 ml bottle of Smirnoff Ice — €20.71
  • 700 ml bottle of Jameson whiskey — €22.09.
  • 500 ml can of Dutch Gold –  €1.58. (As of May this year, it was retailing at €1.13)

“We need to debunk the accusation that we are trying to increase the price of a pint and that the Minister will put up the price of the gin and tonic of the man or woman on the street. Let us debunk that myth as well because we have a lot of myths but not many facts in some of the arguments put forward by industry,” said Harris.

In pubs the proposed minimum unit pricing of 10 cent per gram of alcohol will mean the following:

Heineken will have a minimum unit price of €2.25

A pint of Budweiser will have a minimum unit price of €1.80

A pint of Bulmer’s will have a minimum unit price of €2.02.

A measure of Jameson whiskey will have a minimum unit price of €1.12

A measure of Huzzar vodka will have a minimum unit price of €1.05

“This is about targeting the cheapest drinks which have high alcohol content and, in the session we just had, we all noted it is about ensuring that we are having a particular impact on our younger citizens and the next generation of citizens and decision makers in this country,” explained the minister.

However, the introduction of minimum pricing will be delayed until the Northern Ireland Executive and Assembly are back in operation

Harris said he would implement it “at an appropriate time” as there were concerns that  jobs could be lost in border areas due to people crossing the border to buy cheaper drink.

Northern Ireland is set to introduce similar measures.

The introduction of labelling on alcohol products is also included, which will result in clear warnings about the danger alcohol poses to our health.

Yesterday, the minister accepted an amendment by Labour’s Ged Nash that all alcohol products will have labels warning of their links to cancer.

“There is absolutely a causal link between alcohol and cancer, there is also a causal link between alcohol and many other diseases,” said the minister, adding that between 2001 and 2010, one in ten breast cancer cases were attributable to alcohol.

“It is a very real risk, and it is estimated that alcohol related cancers will more than double for females and increase by 81% for males up to 2020,” he said.

The bill will also make it illegal to market or advertise alcohol in a manner that is appealing to children or that makes it look glamorous.

This will include restrictions on broadcast marketing and advertising, cinema advertising, outdoor advertising, print media and the regulation of sponsorship by alcohol companies.

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    Mute Nick Allen
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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:43 PM

    Heineken will have a minimum unit price of €2.25
    A pint of Budweiser will have a minimum unit price of €1.80
    A pint of Bulmer’s will have a minimum unit price of €2.02.
    A measure of Jameson whiskey will have a minimum unit price of €1.12
    A measure of Huzzar vodka will have a minimum unit price of €1.05

    I would be very happy if these were the prices in a pub

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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:54 PM

    Roughly half of your pub price is vat and excise… without the other costs..

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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:57 PM

    ..and unit cost…

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:04 PM

    @Nick Allen: They generally are the prices around Dublin pubs (excluding city centre) when you calculate the multiples of units per drink…. eg 2 units in a Heineken or 2.5 units in a Budweiser!!!

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:11 PM

    @Nick Allen: I’d be happy if they rolled out free GP care for all with the proceeds.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:36 PM

    @Don Juan: Absolute shite, €1.49 of your 5e pint is taxes and excise.

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    Mute Andy K
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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:50 PM

    @Paul Linehan: But the prices above are the prices they can be sold at, not the cost per unit of alcohol. If it were per unit of alcohol, and you charge more for one company than another, that would break multiple laws, both nationally and internationally.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 5:10 PM

    @Nick Allen: but ask yourself. Who profits….

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    Nov 9th 2017, 5:20 PM

    @Ro Brett: I added unit cost in next comment. Pint cost including duty is about €2.05 Plus 23% vat makes it about €2.47. So go sh!te that.

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    Mute Melanie Crabbe
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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:48 PM

    So when you work all week and have very very little left and you decide to have a drink at home that’s now being dictated as well. I fully accept and understand the issues both social and health related but seriously.. It really should be a personal choice not forced so that you can’t afford any luxury except the luxury of being taxed to bits.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:16 PM

    @Melanie Crabbe: If you’ve been working all week and still can’t afford a €1.66 can of Guinness then you probably need to take a close look at where your money is going.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:28 PM

    @Rochelle: probably tax, bills and rent.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:33 PM

    @Rochelle: It is less about ability but rather being forced and being nannied. Plus can I just say for many that €1.60 is a lot not just for alcohol but for anything and some do not have the luxury of simple reconsideration of employment options. So yes, the extra 40 cent per drink may seem little to some but quite substantial to others.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:35 PM

    @Melanie Crabbe: employment or budgeting because wages get soaked up by bills, rent and commuting to work, keeping a car on the road, child’s, food etc..

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    Nov 9th 2017, 6:04 PM

    @Rochelle: where can u get a can of guinness fir 1.66?? Ive not seen that in 20 years ish.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 6:16 PM

    @Rochelle: You’re missing the point.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 6:37 PM

    @Melanie Crabbe: Well, the smokers have been hit hard twice within 12 months and there was no outcry. I don’t drink, but after a long day of hard work I do like to relax with a fag or two. The pack price went up from 9.20 to 9.60 and now 10.30.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 7:40 PM

    @Babs Ruch: They keep pushing the price of cigarettes up but everyone buys then abroad anyway. Education and banning of sponsorship had been far more effective than price increase.

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    Nov 10th 2017, 11:31 AM

    @Mondo: 12 cans for $19 in Tesco.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:41 PM

    How typically Irish, the many suffer because of the few.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:07 PM

    @Arnold Lane: 2 euro for a bottle of wine in Barcelona, 12 euro for a bottle of Jameson, 4 euro for a bottle of vodka and strangely the streets aren’t full of drunks. It’s almost as if social attitudes towards alcohol are a huge factor in alcohol abuse, and maybe the price doesn’t have an awful lot to do with it. Who would know though I’m sure this government know what they’re talking about.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:08 PM

    @Arnold Lane:
    I’ll be heading up to Newry for the Chrimbo beer stock so. Slab of beer £12.00.
    See ya later Irish exchequer!

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:14 PM

    @Arnold Lane: What’s Irish about that? Most of the world is the same. We legislate for the few. Most people who use drugs aren’t unemployed junkies, but we legislate for the minority that are. Most people wouldn’t shoot people, but we legislate for the few who would. Most people wouldn’t sleep with underage people, but we legislate for the few who would. That’s not Irish. That’s common sense.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:48 PM

    @Tweed Cap: any slab of beer for £12 isn’t worth drinking, comrade. Choose quality over quantity. Nothing worse than drinking a load of crap cans on Christmas day and ending up with only a headache

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    Nov 9th 2017, 5:16 PM

    @R: This government know what they are talking about? That will be a first.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:44 PM

    The nanny state is alive and well

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    Nov 9th 2017, 5:16 PM

    @Michael Dowd: If people dont like it here then they can always go and live somewhere else

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    Nov 9th 2017, 5:19 PM

    @andrew: What’s your suggestion & will you chip in ?

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    Nov 9th 2017, 6:41 PM

    @Joe Bloggs: Sure they don’t pay their bill anyway!

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    Nov 10th 2017, 6:53 AM

    @andrew: silly comment

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    Nov 10th 2017, 1:02 PM

    @Joe Bloggs: Unusually, this is not about raising taxes. The price increase goes to the brewer. Great news for the mid-range market (Heineken, Budweiser, Carlsberg, Guinness, Bulmer’s etc.) as it effectively wipes out all their cheaper competition. Expect an attack on craft breweries next, to take care of the other end of the market.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:48 PM

    Read FG’s 2011 manifesto to understand why this has absolutely nothing to do with the publics health and is all about helping publicans force customer out of their homes and back through pub doors

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:02 PM

    @Ian McNally: given the state of mental health in the country that is an insightful move. Far better in the pub having the chats than sitting at home chain drinking Dutch gold by oneself.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:05 PM

    @Ian McNally: It is more to help small retailers not having to compete with supermarkets

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:06 PM

    @alphanautica: I agree the state of mental health is an issue but disagree entirely the pub is the answer, that’s some serious backwards thinking. If they were really concerned about mental health they would increase the excise and use the increased tax take to better fund mental health but the vintners wouln’t like that now would they?

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:14 PM

    @Kal Ipers: You are delusional if you think that’s what is happening

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    Nov 9th 2017, 5:00 PM

    @Ian McNally: That is precisely what is happening. That is why the EU told them that can’t do it already. The separation in the stores further helps the pubs with off sales as it eliminates competition from the small shops

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    Nov 9th 2017, 6:36 PM

    @alphanautica: who do I ask for a lift, I live in the middle of nowhere

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    Nov 9th 2017, 6:43 PM

    I have it, load up on spuds, brew my own, offer a delivery service, catch up on the chats, make a profit, thanks FG!!

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    Nov 9th 2017, 8:59 PM

    @Kal Ipers: no the eu said MUP shouldnt be implemented if there are other options like tax and excise available, they mentioned nothing about stores segregation you do not know anything about this issue evidently

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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:58 PM

    Do the Government really think this will stop excessive drinking, I’m not so sure.
    Ferry operators and Northern Irish retailers will be delighted.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:44 PM

    This won’t be popular and rightly so

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    Nov 9th 2017, 5:12 PM

    @Ronan McDermott: because it enriches off licences and supermarkets

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:07 PM

    HOW ARE THEY GETTING THIS PAST THE EU!They were already told they can’t do it by them as it is anti-competative and protectionary

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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:57 PM

    Home Brewers of Ireland Unite!
    Your crafty beer is free of nanny state interference.
    There are no minimum prices, no time restrictions on display or sale, no age limits.

    And yet, how may alcoholics make home brew?

    Bizarre aint it?

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    Nov 9th 2017, 6:20 PM

    @Clancy: they would not have the patience or be able to invest in some equipment

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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:52 PM

    Smirnoff Ice over 20 euro ha ha, wait until you see the 99.9 % rise in black market sales on FB

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    Nov 9th 2017, 7:13 PM

    @Gavin R: It’s a typo, it should just read ‘Smirnoff’.

    Smirnoff Ice 700ml currently retails at around €6.50.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:02 PM

    Newry is gonna be hit big style…….all on board

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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:39 PM

    This is such a pathetic initiative, as if it will benefit anyone apart from Revenue!

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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:42 PM

    @Stephen: so it benefits everyone is what you are saying?

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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:44 PM

    @frank sullivan: I wish they’d just be honest and admit it’s an extra tax-gain measure instead of dressing it up as a health concern

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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:47 PM

    @Stephen:
    and also add the extra cost of traveling by train to that very shortly, so what did we get in the budget ?

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:03 PM

    @Stephen: It benefits every seller at the cost to the consumer

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:33 PM

    @Stephen: its not even an extra tax gain measure, that would make far more sense

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    Nov 10th 2017, 1:04 PM

    @Stephen: It doesn’t benefit Revenue. It benefits Diageo.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:56 PM

    Taxing the poor as usual

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:31 PM

    CLOSE THE DAIL BAR!!!!

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:47 PM

    Looks like a lot of cars going north for Christmas.. Well done FG …

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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:59 PM

    I don’t drink but I think this is pathetic and will do nothing to solve mental problems in this country. It’s a stealth tax which will only inflict more poverty on the poor.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:37 PM

    I`m confused, this legislation makes the display of alcohol products in supermarkets
    and shops less conspicuous to discourage impulse buying etc, puts the prices up as well, who will this benefit? the publicans who have been lobbying for this for years.
    Meanwhile alcohol advertising and sports sponsorship by the drinks industry remains unaffected.The drinks industry targets young people cynically associating their products with sporting and cultural icons, and it has been shown to work.
    So it`s ok for sporting and music stars to promote drink, and stadiums and leagues to be named after beers , billboards tv online advertisng etc, but it`s not ok for your local centra to place a can of beer behind the till, in case someone might be tempted to purchase?.Go figure

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:07 PM

    Why don’t we just Mug our tourists at the airport , turn them around or send them on to Spain where they can spend a week in the sun for the price of a night out in Dublin.. BONKERS……….

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:59 PM

    @Dáithí Ó Raghallaigh: We cant mug them at the airport there will be nothing for the theifs on O’Connell Street and Temple Bar to day then

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    Nov 9th 2017, 6:21 PM

    @Dáithí Ó Raghallaigh: tourists don’t drink Dutch Gold or Tesco vodka

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:09 PM

    Here to debunk the myth that they are trying to raise the price of a pint. Course not this is all about increasing the price of off sales against pub prices. What a shollow sham of a health initiative.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:57 PM

    Just another tax plain and simple. How the F is this going to help curb binge drinking?

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    Nov 9th 2017, 6:07 PM

    @Ciaran Fairley: it

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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:48 PM

    20 quid for a 700ml bottle of smirnoff ice, that can’t be right.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:50 PM

    @Let free speech live: It’s gotta be just Smirnoff

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:00 PM

    @Stephen Cleary: That is what I thought it should be but then I said no way would there be a mistake on the journal, they are too diligent.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 5:02 PM

    That’s grand, jack the price up as much as you like, I’ll just nip over the border for my weekend gargle! The Irish economy will be the loser of my and everyone else’s tax revenue…

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:17 PM

    I’ll be buying a new home brew kit so – I’ll end up drinking more !

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:06 PM

    Great news for the border towns in the North and another idiot move from Dublin. Half price drink in Newry and Derry all revenue going to HMRC and zero regard for Irish jobs in ROI. Will not make any difference to those that drink dangerously, will push them to harder cheaper things like Opiates to top up the drink. Nanny state will never work for the Irish.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:56 PM

    This country really is gone to the dog’s! Can’t even enjoy a drink at the weekend without getting paying more than every other country in Europe. Making a really expensive country to visit even dearer. Good job dummies.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:54 PM

    @mic d: yet people like you will vote for fine fail or the IMF party no problem..

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    Nov 9th 2017, 5:18 PM

    Some people damage their health by overeating and eating the wrong foods. Are we going to see restrictions on the display of salt, sugar and cooking fats?

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    Nov 9th 2017, 5:41 PM

    This so-called public health bill is all about destroying the publicans competition and trying to force the customers back into the pub. Totally illegal under EU law.

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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:50 PM

    It’s ridiculous we pay more than any nation in euro zone it’s an education problem .face facts

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:53 PM

    @Brian grennan: na it’s the fact ireland is a depressing kip

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    Nov 9th 2017, 5:43 PM

    Meanwhile bar bills written off in the Dail for unpaid tabs, Good old Ireland, dare I mention the Apple tax scandal, 13 billion unclaimed tax

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    Nov 9th 2017, 5:58 PM

    Newry here we come

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    Nov 9th 2017, 6:45 PM

    This bill will not make people reduce their alcohol intake, but it may take food away from the table

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    Mute Charles Coughlan
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    Nov 9th 2017, 7:18 PM

    The myth here is that the Government is imposing this stealth tax for health reasons, it is purely to generate extra revenue and to yield to the all powerful publican lobby…..

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    Mute Remy
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    Nov 9th 2017, 5:23 PM

    Watch the price of units go up year on year.

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    Mute Tony Stack
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    Nov 9th 2017, 6:23 PM

    @Remy: its not a tax

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    Mute Minom Pnom
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    Nov 9th 2017, 6:40 PM

    @Tony Stack: push the price of alcohol up = more VAT as a result.

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    Mute Noel Kelly
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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:33 PM

    I’m sick of this country .Go into the shop buy your over priced cans carry them out bundled up in your arms as they will charge me for a bag.sick of it. I need a drink .

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    Mute Mimi Muth
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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:36 PM

    Alcohol is a luxury and should be priced accordingly.

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    Mute Tom Phelan
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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:38 PM

    @Mimi Muth: why?

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    Mute The Bob
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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:39 PM

    @Mimi Muth: We already have the highest priced alcohol in the whole EU. Its not like it is cheap at the moment.

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    Mute Paul P O'Sullivan
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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:40 PM

    @Mimi Muth: Shut up

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    Mute Ben Coughlan
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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:45 PM

    @The Bob: nope, nowhere near the highest, look at Sweden.

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    Mute Asha
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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:53 PM

    @Mimi Muth: so is a Freddo bar but god be damned i’ll never pay over 40c for it

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    Mute ed w
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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:06 PM

    @Ben Coughlan: not in the eu

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    Mute kehe
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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:27 PM

    @ed w: Sweden joined the EU in 1995. It’s not a EURO currency member though. Do you mean Norway which isn’t in the EU?

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:32 PM

    @Ben Coughlan: Well I read on eurostat that we are the highest. Then I did a search and another source said that Sweden was the highest and we were a close second. Either way we are very expensive.

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    Mute Martin Ryan
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    Nov 9th 2017, 6:17 PM

    @Tom Phelan: Nothing about Maximum pricing in pubs where patrons are ripped off with ridiculous prices .

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    Mute William Nolan
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    Nov 9th 2017, 7:31 PM

    @Mimi Muth: Toilet rolls and sanitary towels are not a luxury but you pay top rate of vat on them

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    Mute lavbeer
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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:48 PM

    So if the Seanad can hold this up till the new year – they can finally do the a service to the people.

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    Mute Philip O'Dowd
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    Nov 9th 2017, 7:32 PM

    More revenue collection, nothing to do with health or preventing people from excessive drinking!

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    Mute EC P Ford
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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:21 PM

    Bootleggers charter

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    Mute tom McCormack
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    Nov 9th 2017, 5:21 PM

    Home brew is the only solution.

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    Mute Leitrim303
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    Nov 9th 2017, 5:41 PM

    @tom McCormack: ya I make my own from barley yeast and hops. costs me around 20 euro for 40 pnts od home brewed IPA

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    Mute The Debater
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    Nov 9th 2017, 5:56 PM

    @Leitrim303: thats why Leitrim is lovely!!

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    Mute Frank Conroy
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    Nov 9th 2017, 8:09 PM

    Just back from Stuttgart, half litre bottle of premium beer and glass of white wine in bar cost me
    6 euro, what would that cost in Dublin city centre.? That’s what I call cheap.
    Beer and wine in supermarkets even cheaper, hit the working man again – no subsidised bars for us!.
    Publican’s prayers answered.
    Maybe increase the price of petrol, it might cut out speeding on Irish roads.

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    Mute EC P Ford
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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:21 PM

    Bootleggers charter

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    Nov 9th 2017, 8:32 PM

    Over the brexit border i will go and then when it runs out i will be become teetotal until i can afford to go again when we dont have to pay the highest taxes for fuel ⛽️ or anything else living in this robbing country . The rich get richer ie bono and his mates and us poor working class work our butts off to keep this god forsaken country in taxes . Rant over for today .

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    Mute Neil Brady
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    Nov 9th 2017, 7:24 PM

    Jesus I hate this Country more and more every day

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    Mute Paul Maher
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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:55 PM

    Great public health initiative. Any reduction in alcohol consumption is to be welcomed especially amongst the young . Alcohol misuse is wrecking families and communities. The next step should be to ban off sales in city centre convenience stores to curb street drinking.

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    Mute Ken Pepper
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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:57 PM

    @Paul Maher: convenience shops

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    Nov 10th 2017, 4:10 PM

    @Paul Maher: Spot the American

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    Mute Kieran Murphy
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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:59 PM

    If you want to tackle excessive drinking send recovered alcoholics into schools to tell their story. Put ads on tv that show how alcohol can phuck up people’s lives if it’s not treated carefully. This measure may have good intentions but it will do absolutely FA to address the problem. An extra euro for booze – nobody is that skint

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    Mute Anthony Whelan
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    Nov 9th 2017, 10:50 PM

    So all this does is encourage young people to switch to bottles of Jameson and Huzzar instead of six packs etc as it works out cheaper. And do these clowns realise there are working couples who can’t afford to drink in the pub and there only respite is to be able to afford some cheap cans on a Saturday night

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    Nov 9th 2017, 5:11 PM

    I wonder how many who say they will shop over the border were complaining about Leo wearing the Poppy?

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    Mute wrinkly
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    Nov 9th 2017, 6:20 PM

    Absolute rubbish, I agree our alcohol laws need to be restructured but maybe removing booze from every sweet shop (spar,centra,etc) would be a start, or alcohol/drug awareness thought in schools from a young age, not minimum price bu11s h1t. This is just going to increase the imports from NI/UK.

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    Mute Michael Walsh
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    Nov 10th 2017, 1:11 AM

    Minimum pricing is illegal in the Euro
    What planet are these muppets on?

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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:03 PM

    I can’t find a link , there were an advert on telly a while back the advert was “this is … he only had the odd drink” it showed him at different occasions having just the one. This was the most successful advert it worked so well sales in its short time decreased and people stopped drinking.

    It all about an illusion these ideas are ways to drag it out as long as possible they can make figs out of it if not good let’s try another idea.

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    Mute David Lacey
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    Nov 9th 2017, 7:32 PM

    4.50 min for a pint. Wonder how many pubs this would impact.

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    Mute Anthony Gallagher
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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:46 PM

    alcohol related health problems are costing us all a fortune ,alcohol sales have fallen in recent years and i hope it continues. this legislation does not go far enough ,its a luxury item and you dont have to drink ,try a good coffee shop instead .

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    Mute sean o'dhubhghaill
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    Nov 9th 2017, 6:29 PM

    We Irish DO have a problem with Alcohol.

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    Mute Frank Conroy
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    Nov 10th 2017, 12:31 PM

    @sean o’dhubhghaill:
    I agree, we can’t afford to buy it.

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    Mute Martin Murphy
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    Nov 9th 2017, 6:19 PM

    And what will happen with alcohol fee drinks

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    Mute Derek Walsh
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    Nov 10th 2017, 12:57 PM

    This is great news for Diageo and Irish Distillers. They can for the most part keep their products at the same price and pay no more tax, but their cheaper competition will have been all but eliminated.

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    Mute Andrew Doyle
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    Nov 9th 2017, 10:53 PM

    If they want to tackle the drink problem take it out of the shops and supermarkets. It should only be in the pubs and off-licences. You can’t even get a loaf of bread without seeing alcohol stacked roof high it’s crazy.

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    Mute frank sullivan
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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:37 PM

    long overdue, if idiots want to drink themselves to death they should be taxed accordingly

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    Mute The Bob
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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:39 PM

    @frank sullivan: they already are.

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    Mute frank sullivan
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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:42 PM

    @Ser Barristan Selmy: it appears not :)

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    Mute Ian McNally
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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:47 PM

    @frank sullivan: Firstly they already are taxed heavily, secondly this is not a tax, thirdly this has nothing to do with health and is about FG paying off a 2011 promise to publicans to try force people back in their doors

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    Mute Grumpyoldtroll
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    Nov 9th 2017, 3:51 PM

    @frank sullivan: no what you’re saying is if idiots want to drink themselves to death we should ALL be taxed accordingly. Another idiot.

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    Mute Rob Cahill
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    Nov 10th 2017, 4:13 PM

    @Ser Barristan Selmy: I currently pay €13 for an 8 pack of Heineken. With this sham it will go up by €5. It’s not just the skangers that will be affected.

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    Mute jackamy
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    Nov 9th 2017, 4:00 PM

    What the f##k??? Jaysus, thank God my winter fuel allowance came through!!!!

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    Mute Henry
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    Nov 10th 2017, 6:46 AM

    pisses me off. We vote for a president. But we do not get to vote on that horrible prostitution law that’s makes it less safe. The minimum price of booze will not effect the rich only those on low wage. That joke of a billto have over 18 allowed gamble in the tote. Why would a 17year old go grey hound, or horse racing if they can’t have a bet. The interest in these sports will decrease. We could have had a vote on all three of these issues on the 8th amendment referendum day. Even fags more than $10 what a joke the black markets booming. We could have gotten to vote on all of these 8 the amendment day. I do not trust the government nanny fingers on bailout. We did not get to vote on the bail out. Vote on important issues like these it’s called freedom we don’t need a nanny

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    Mute Fearghal O Regan
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    Nov 9th 2017, 8:01 PM

    €20.71 for 700ml bottle of smirnoff ice is mad. Youl’d get a bottle of smirnoff vodka for that price. Im all for minimum pricing to deter underage drinking but thats taking the p#%s

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    Mute Aidan Costelloe
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    Nov 9th 2017, 5:08 PM

    I will have to give up the Smirnoff Ice ifs going to be over 20 bucks for a 700ml bottle haha

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    Mute Colm O'Sullivan
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    Nov 9th 2017, 7:15 PM

    @Aidan Costelloe: it’s a typo. They mean ‘Smirnoff’.

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    Mute Psyarron
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    Nov 9th 2017, 8:47 PM

    @Colm O’Sullivan: Thanks for clearing that up.

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    Mute Tim Brennan
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    Nov 10th 2017, 6:58 PM

    The pubs will be full of blueshirt rich kids and the problems drink cause will still happen. Just another way way if robbing you

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    Mute Misanthrope
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    Nov 10th 2017, 12:09 AM

    An extra $1.32 for a four pack of prazy. No bother.

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    Mute Bobby Daly
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    Nov 15th 2017, 8:36 PM

    Why not just increase it for alcoholics. Same with the sugar tax, only tax fat people!

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    Mute Colm O'Sullivan
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    Nov 9th 2017, 7:11 PM

    Smirnoff Ice €20.71 should just read ‘Smirnoff’.

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    Mute Psyarron
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    Nov 9th 2017, 8:49 PM

    @Colm O’Sullivan: Thanks again for clearing that up I was mad confused

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    Nov 13th 2018, 5:25 PM

    Government charging 23% vat on life saving equipment bought by communities, like defibrillators. Public health bill ME ARSE

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