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How College Green could look if it were pedestrianised. Dublin City Council

Dublin traffic restrictions to remain in place until New Year as College Green development plans stall

The council said it will hear more public submissions over a three week period.

DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL has confirmed that it will continue hearing from the public as the prospect of opening a completely pedestrianised College Green area hit a stumbling block.

The extended consultation follows the submission of further information requested by An Bord Pleanála regarding the effects of the proposed development on the environment and the impact it would have on city traffic.

The public process will start on 16 November for a three-week period.

Dublin City Council is proposing to develop College Green as a pedestrian priority civic space. It is intended that it will be an “attractive tree-lined, granite paved 7,300 square metre space will facilitate major public gatherings and processional events through the city”, according to the council.

DCC said that it will have the capacity to accommodate up to 15,000 people and will be fully equipped with the infrastructure required to stage large public events.

But the council said that existing traffic arrangements in College Green will remain in place until the New Year. It said this will help facilitate Operation Open City which aims to keep public transport moving during the run up to Christmas.

The existing restriction on taxis using lower Grafton Street in a northbound direction will remain in place.

An Bord Pleanála specifically stated that it required more details about the “wider implications” of these plans to ban motor vehicles from the busy road and the effect this would have on traffic in the city as a whole.

This information was supplied by DCC, and An Bord Pleanála has now ruled that interested parties need to be allowed time to review the ”significant additional data”.

The council will be required to advertise the extra information and take on board further submissions from the public.

Transport bodies such as Dublin Bus and the National Transport Authority (NTA) objected to the plan. Local business owners also said they were concerned that the plans could impact trade.

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    Mute Philip Farrelly
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    Jun 16th 2013, 5:13 PM

    Bit of a silly idea really, shipping will be a thing of the past soon with 3 D printers, I bought one recently, would anyone like me to print them another one?

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    Mute Chief PP In TeePee
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    Jun 16th 2013, 5:31 PM

    Yeah I’ll have one. Cheers

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    Mute Aindriú de Domhain
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    Jun 16th 2013, 5:50 PM

    ‘Opposing it is unpatriotic’?

    Haven’t we had governments that have used that phrase before?

    Seems like a mad idea / publicity stunt

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    Mute Uncle Mort
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    Jun 16th 2013, 5:08 PM

    The Chinese bubble is about to burst, that should put an end to this idea.

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    Mute Jason Bourne
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    Jun 16th 2013, 5:11 PM

    Nah its not. They own most of America’s debt and also have massive export market. They can go to the wall several times before failing.

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    Mute Declan Noonan
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    Jun 16th 2013, 5:53 PM

    Jason, where is Chinas largest export market? The USA, you might want to do a rethink with your comment.

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    Mute Johnny Reynolds
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    Jun 16th 2013, 6:01 PM

    Declan, look at anything you buy and think where was it made. Hell, look at the clothes you’re wearing, providing you’re clothed, they were most certainly made in china. Sure the label might say another country but that country only put a button or such on the garment to be able to say that. The label was printed and sewn on in china even lol

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    Mute Jason Bourne
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    Jun 16th 2013, 6:17 PM

    Dont need to Declan. Emerging economies and existing ones worldwide will easily fill the gap the Americans ‘may’ create.

    May want to rethink yours tbh.

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    Mute Uncle Mort
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    Jun 16th 2013, 6:28 PM

    Sound familiar? ” State-run enterprises controlled most of the money flow, pouring borrowed cash into housing construction and other speculative investments. In 2011, spending on plant, machinery, buildings, and infrastructure made up an amazing forty-eight percent of China’s GDP.”

    How long can China continue to keep the lid on wages? The extraordinary rate of growth in the Chinese economy has concealed the smoke and mirrors aspect of their economy and the massive uncontrolled lending and borrowing which powered the growth. The USA looks likely to devalue the dollar soon and that will surely knock a hole in the value of the American bonds held by China { They don’t hold most of the bonds BTW, Saudi and Russian holdings exceed the Chinese ] Looks like fun on the way, not new canals.

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    Mute John O'Neill
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    Jun 16th 2013, 7:26 PM

    Jobs for the buoys…

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    Mute Maurice O'Connor
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    Jun 16th 2013, 5:22 PM

    Why not ? Build it they will come, competition is good right?

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    Mute Declan Noonan
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    Jun 16th 2013, 5:51 PM

    Maurice, economically unfeasible, did you not read the article?

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    Mute Bobby Murray
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    Jun 16th 2013, 5:27 PM

    Bondholders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are building it with the billions that was extorted from the Irish tax payer. It is refreshing to see our hard earned money being put to good use Mr. Kenny and Mr. Gilmore!

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    Mute Chief PP In TeePee
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    Jun 16th 2013, 5:31 PM

    Normal

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    Jun 16th 2013, 6:34 PM

    Is that one of the most ill-researched and poorly conceived comments of all time on the journal? I think so.

    Is there any mention of European investment in this article?

    Do you seriously think the Chinese are so in need of cash that they’re in some way reliant on the piddling debt of Ireland?

    I’d pity the Chinese if they were relying on us to pay off our debt as they’d be waiting a long time for all the people grumbling about burning bondholders to pay their mortgages.

    These two things are wholly unrelated but if the Chinese had leant our banks money I’d say they were entitled to it back. It wouldn’t be their fault that every tool in the country thought building houses was the easy alternative to an education and hard work and borrowed beyond their means.

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    Mute Julian Dowling
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    Jun 16th 2013, 7:08 PM

    Are you serious?

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    Mute Bobby Murray
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    Jun 16th 2013, 7:20 PM

    @Gerard my comment was primarily put out in jest. Neither you are I can state who are the Bondholders that are receiving billions of our taxes.
    Given that, the first port of call after the property bubble burst, where representation was made on behalf of the Irish government to increase trade (we were told) was China and they in turn paid a visit to Ireland? Gerard it is a pity we didn’t have experts like you to warn us of the property collapse all you academics kept that information to yourselves. I bet if you had been told in 2007 that Europe’s Economy and the USA were going to collapse you would have stated, ” I’ll researched and poorly conceived comments.” If we didn’t have wannabe Economists like you, we would all be in a better place now!
    Name the bondholders Gerard before you criticise, then you can uphold your criticism? Because even if I am wrong you can not prove that, thus remain the unmasked bondholders!

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    Mute Bobby Murray
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    Jun 16th 2013, 7:36 PM

    Gerard ” every tool in the country” were advised by the FF cartel to invest in the property ladder and don’ t get left behind. Why are you angry at the people and why did you state that if China ( and you do not know) was one of the unmasked bondholders, that they would deserve their money back? We all didn’t party, most invested for retirement and in their future and their families future and lost everything. The bondholders invested out of greed and lost, but our CRIMINALS in government FF-FG-L are paying them back out of our taxes and when our taxes were not enough they taxed us more and our homes!

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    Mute Gerard McAuliffe
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    Jun 16th 2013, 9:39 PM

    “Advised?” Could you not have used common sense?

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    Jun 16th 2013, 6:55 PM

    Sounds like an excellent idea would create a huge boost for Nicaragua after all the wars and suffering it has endured

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    Mute Eoin Byrne
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    Jun 16th 2013, 11:34 PM

    There are two main reasons this is a bad idea:
    1) the massive Panama Canal expansion project that is nearing completion, massively increasing the size of ships that can transit the canal (and thus massively increasing the annual freight-tonne throughput of the canal, again using optimistic forecasts); and
    2) the fact that shipments from china to both the east coast of the USA and Europe will be a lot shorter for most of the year if global warming continues and the north west passage becomes more navigable (at least in summer time).

    Given that shipment times on this canal will be longer than Panama, the fact it is slightly further north won’t help that much in terms of time saving. They’d need to charge lower fees than Panama to make it worthwhile and with the infrastructure in place, Panama could cut prices in the morning without massive difficulty (albeit it would cause some given the cost of the lock expansion project) as the only competitor they’ve had to date is Cape Horn. Basically, it seems like at best an ill-advised plan and at worst a mad one.

    I’m also not sure $40bn is enough or close to it.

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    Jun 16th 2013, 6:29 PM

    Im packing the bags when id it starting

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    Mute Ben Mad-Dog Moore
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    Jun 16th 2013, 5:45 PM

    Why does the heading say 30 billion but then the article itself says an estimated 40 billion? Bit of major difference.

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    Mute Paul Clancy
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    Jun 16th 2013, 5:54 PM

    Two different currencies.

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    Mute Uncle Mort
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    Jun 16th 2013, 5:55 PM

    € $

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    Mute Grant Masterson
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    Jun 16th 2013, 5:50 PM

    Dollars and euros.

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