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'It's been two months, it's just not on': Customers say Ryanair still owes money after cancellations

Ryanair customers told TheJournal.ie that, despite numerous contacts with customer services, they have not yet received compensation.

TWO MONTHS ON since Ryanair cancelled flights for hundreds of thousands of customers, some customers say they are still waiting to receive the compensation that they are owed.

In September, Ryanair CEO Michael O’Leary confirmed that thousands of flights would be cancelled and cited rostering issues as the cause.

At a press conference on Monday 18 September, he said that all customers would be offered full refunds, and would be informed of the steps they need to take to claim compensation.

Some customers, however, say they have not received their money back despite having to make alternative arrangements at their own expense, and have not received compensation despite it being a requirement by law.

In a statement to TheJournal.ie, however, Ryanair said that there were no delays and that all customers had been re-accommodated or refunded, and that valid compensation claims were being processed.

“An extortionate amount”

Michael Teehan was due to fly from Dublin to Biarritz on Thursday 21 September. He was to be best man at a friend’s wedding.

On the Friday before his flight, he was informed by Ryanair that his flight was cancelled. Very quickly, he had to make alternative arrangements.

Teehan had tried to ring customer service and the live chat function on the Ryanair website but was unable to get through so went and booked alternative flights.

He told TheJournal.ie: “It was an extortionate amount to pay so close to the wedding. But we had to pay it.”

He booked a flight from Dublin to London Stansted, at an extra cost of €161.98, and then from Stansted to Biarritz, for which he was charged €58. Because of the times of the new flights, he also had to book an extra night’s stay in Biarritz.

“I’m a reasonable man,” Teehan said. “But it’s gone on long enough at this stage. Between the compensation I’m owed, and the amount of extra money I had to pay to get to the wedding, I’m around €900 out of pocket.”

He said he has made numerous attempts to contact Ryanair to get his compensation, but keeps getting told different things.

A full two months’ later, Teehan still has not received compensation. He contacted Ryanair’s online chat function again on Friday 3 November, and was told he’d have an answer to his claim by the end of the next week.

On Thursday 9 November, he talked again to the online chat support and said an attempt had been made to pay compensation to the card he’d used to book the original flights, but this had failed because his card had expired.

“But that couldn’t be the case,” Teehan said. “The card I used is still in date well past this year. And they were able to refund the original cost of the flight to that same card.”

And then, contacting Ryanair’s customer care team again on Monday, he was told that his claim is in fact still being processed.

“I don’t blame the staff but it’s like I’m going around in circles at this stage,” he said. “I’m a contractor and lost a day’s work from having to book new flights too, but it’s not about that. I just want what I’m owed.”

“No one is holding them to account”

Tom* (not his real name) had a flight booked from Edinburgh to Stansted in September.

He was told a week before his flight that it had been cancelled.

“So I put in a refund and compensation claim,” he said. “They emailed me to say that they accepted the claim, and I got a letter at the end of September to confirm I would be paid the compensation in five to seven days.”

But Tom has still not received his compensation.

“I’ve called, I’ve emailed, I’ve sent all sorts of messages but they just haven’t responded,” he said. “I had some other flights that weren’t eligible for compensation that I’ve received a refund for, but nothing.

They just have not paid. Customer care refuse to entertain any question about compensation. They say to email. Those emails go unanswered now.

Tom even detailed an instance where he booked an alternate flight with EasyJet for the original dates, but was not given the cost of that flight by Ryanair.

“You have to work so hard to get something,” he said.

I’ve been around the block. I’ve never come across a company the size of Ryanair who wouldn’t give what I’m entitled to get. And no one is holding them to account.

“Out of pocket”

Andy* (not his real name) had booked a flight from London Stansted to Edinburgh for a time in January 2018.

He’d booked it in August and was told at the end of September that his flight was cancelled.

Since it’s so far in the future, he’s not entitled to compensation, as this only applies for cancellations with less than two weeks’ notice. He is however, entitled to alternative travel arrangements or a refund.

“They told us we could book a train, so we did,” Andy said. “So that’s what we did. We went and booked the train, but we haven’t been reimbursed for it yet.”

He booked that on 16 October, and submitted his claim for reimbursement to Ryanair.

“But I didn’t hear anything,” he said. “I called them up after a week and a half, and then emailed on 31 October.”

Andy spoke to someone in customer care again on 11 November, well after the three weeks he was told he’d have to wait to get his money back.

“The person told me you have to wait seven working days, but I brought it up on the 31st I said back to her,” he said.

‘We can only go from the most recent time you followed up’, she said. This is despite me putting in several queries before. It beggars belief.

He said he wished he’d just opted for a refund at this stage, as the whole process has been frustrating.

“I’d fly with them again because they’re so cheap to fly with,” he added. “But everytime I try to call, I’d just get passed around and no one would really speak to me about it. I just have to wait again now.”

What you’re entitled to

In the event that Ryanair cancelled your flight during that wave of mass cancellations, passengers were entitled by law to one of three options:

  • An alternative flight at the earliest opportunity.
  • An alternative flight at a later date of your choice (subject to availability).
  • A full refund.

If your agreed rerouted flight leaves later than the original, you must be offered ‘care and assistance’ free of charge. This means reasonable meals and refreshments in relation to the waiting time and hotel accommodation in cases where an overnight stay becomes necessary.

It also includes transport between the airport and the hotel as well as the cost of two phonecalls, emails or faxes.

If you have been given less than two weeks’ notice of the cancellation, you may be entitled to compensation.

The distance of your flight determines the compensation due.

  • 1,500km or less the amount payable is €250.
  • 1,500km – 3,500km and all EU flights over 3,500km the amount payable is €400.

If Ryanair can prove the cancellation was caused by an ‘extraordinary circumstance’ which could not have been avoided, even if all reasonable measures were taken, it does not have to pay compensation.

In the last week alone, however, dozens of people have taken to Twitter to ask Ryanair why they haven’t received their compensation over eight weeks since the cancellations.

Between 9 November and 13 November, for example, there are 21 results when you use the search terms “Ryanair” and “compensation” on Twitter.

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“Which sounds like a lot”

At the press conference confirming the cancellations, O’Leary said the airline was struggling with flight punctuality and that it was taking these steps to ensure that the majority of its flights ran to schedule.

He said: “Because of our size and scale, it affects a large number of passengers.

I am sorry on behalf of Ryanair. We clearly messed up in our rostering department.

O’Leary did provide assurances that people would receive what they’re owed.

Speaking at the Web Summit in Lisbon last week, however, Ryanair’s marketing boss Kenny Jacobs said it was the media who made the flight cancellations “sound like a big, big deal”.

“We ended up having to cancel 700,000 passengers’ flights, which sounds like a lot,” he said.

Fortunately, not a huge amount of people were stuck. What we ended up doing was cancelling flights far into the future. These weren’t that heavily booked.

For people like Teehan who were placed in a tough spot by the cancellations, however, it did feel like a big deal.

“The flight cancellations meant that I couldn’t do some of the things I wanted to do over for the wedding,” he said. “And here I am now still fighting to get [the compensation]. It’s just round in circles.”

In some cases, Ryanair has actually apologised in some tweets to customers.

In response to a request for comment from TheJournal.ie, Jacobs however said that there was “no delay” in paying compensation.

He said: “All affected customers have been re-accommodated/refunded and all valid compensation claims are being processed. We deal with each claim on a case-by-case basis and process all valid claims within 28 days of receipt.”

Another statement received this evening from Ryanair added: “As previously advised, all valid claims are processed within 28 days and the vast majority of customers whose flights were impacted by our September cancellations with valid compensation claims have had their claims processed. Our customer service team have been in regular contact with Mr Teehan, who has been advised that his claim will be processed in the coming days.”

Read: ‘I’m sorry… it’s my mess. I have to clean it up’: Michael O’Leary apologises for cancelled Ryanair flights

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    Mute Mindfulirish
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    May 12th 2016, 5:29 PM

    Parents are responsible for obesity not teachers.

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    Mute john Appleseed
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    May 12th 2016, 5:32 PM

    But education helps if parents are inept

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    Mute Peter Fechter
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    May 12th 2016, 5:35 PM

    Mind….precisely.

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    Mute twit
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    May 12th 2016, 6:42 PM

    About f**kin time! Physical education is needed throughout life!

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    Mute Joanne O'Brien
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    May 14th 2016, 9:14 AM

    There is so much time spend studying and food is a great comfort especially for teens who are not naturally sporty. This is brilliant and it will motivate teens on their health and they will study better too.

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    Mute Dj
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    May 12th 2016, 5:37 PM

    Schools need better facilities too for activities. The basketball / tennis court in my secondary was like something left behind in Chernobyl.

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    Mute aboutallthethings
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    May 13th 2016, 11:31 AM

    Agreed, and it needs to start from a young age, no point in not teaching health living from an early age and then expect teenagers to just suddenly take it up. Also the parents need to take the lead here, healthy living should start at home where possible.

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    Mute Joanna
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    May 12th 2016, 5:35 PM

    This is a good step. Make exercise as important as brushing your teeth and quality of health will improve in this country.

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    Mute Brinster
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    May 12th 2016, 5:52 PM

    Great to see this – exercise is often crucial for mental health.

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    Mute Josephine Sweeney
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    May 12th 2016, 7:56 PM

    I would have aced my leaving if I’d got points for PE

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    Mute andrew
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    May 12th 2016, 8:46 PM

    But why make it an LC subject?. Physical health is hugely important. Children should be doing PT anyway

    If it becomes a subject then you get a stutation like you have in America where the colleges are clogged with idiots who are there because they are there trying to improve their ‘throwing a ball around the place skills’.

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    Mute Sandra Molloy
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    May 12th 2016, 11:56 PM

    How would pe not be a more relevant option than irish or history? Skills for life versus the ability to read a poem ‘tri gaeilge’…it’s a no brainer

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    Mute UndieGrundy
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    May 12th 2016, 5:30 PM

    Should have happened 25 years ago. Enough of this sedentary nonsense in schools. Also, we need to make sure that any schools with a “no running in the schoolyard” policy are taken on and defeated. Scandalous that happens. If it’s insurance,fight it.

    This is good news for many boys in particular who spend their time playing sports at every available opportunity, and often to the detriment of their academic work.

    Wise move all round.

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    Mute john Appleseed
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    May 12th 2016, 5:31 PM

    And two senior schools in clontarf, Dublin have recently sold off their sports facilities to developers.

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    Mute James Delaney
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    May 12th 2016, 6:36 PM

    @john appleseed – Can u provide further details – I find this hard to believe …. Then again €€€€ – I wonder who sanctioned these sales.

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    May 12th 2016, 10:37 PM

    Often wondered where Clontarf was, thanks for the heads-up John.

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    Mute Dave O Keeffe
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    May 12th 2016, 5:32 PM

    In the same year they ban running in the yard.

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    Mute Brinster
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    May 12th 2016, 5:57 PM

    Who banned running in the playground?

    When?

    Link?

    Is it not individual schools who decide?

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    Mute Not_Rod_Ten©
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    May 12th 2016, 7:08 PM

    Insurance companies banned it

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    May 12th 2016, 7:26 PM

    @ Not Rod

    Insurance companies don’t get to ban anything. They might make an activity more expensive to insure but they can’t ban it.

    Dave’s original comment seemed to imply that someone/The Gov banned running in the school yard.

    I hadn’t hear this so asked for confirmation.

    Again – can anyone provide a link where someone/the Gov banned running in the schoolyard this year or was the original comment simply made up?

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    May 12th 2016, 7:31 PM

    Effectively banned if you want then.

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    Mute Sorcha Ní Shúilleabháin
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    May 12th 2016, 8:58 PM

    I’ve worked in dozens of schools and have never come across a school that bans running in the playground.

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    Mute dave muller
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    May 12th 2016, 10:30 PM

    Brinster, This did happen especially in Primary schools all over the country about 4 years ago. It was a knee jerk reaction to threats of legal action any kid falling in the yard. However, most that got to court , were thrown out. Insurance companies settled out of court at the beginning as it cost too much to go to court. However, after Judges copped on to the scammers the companies started challenging these freeloaders and the no running signs started coming down.

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    May 13th 2016, 9:46 AM

    @ Dave

    So no one banned anything then?

    Kinda my original point.

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    May 13th 2016, 6:27 PM

    Sorry Brinster, individual schools did ban running in yards and some schools have left the signs up although they do not apply the ban rather they ignore the running.

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    Mute Gavin.
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    May 12th 2016, 5:45 PM

    What about those “rare” teenagers who are not into sport? Not disagreeing that obesity is a problem and should be addressed but this isn’t a one size fits all matter there are going to be some young people who won’t be into this at all and it seems unfair that it is going to become an integral part of their grading like it or lump it for want of a better phrase.

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    May 12th 2016, 6:01 PM

    I remember at secondary school I had to do P.E. and I didn’t want to do it but had to, I hated it and me cycling about a total of 5 miles a day to go to school and then to arrive home wasn’t put into consideration, is that not crazy? I doubt the same children are the same now as they were in the 90s???

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    May 12th 2016, 6:04 PM

    @ Gavin

    Physical Education can be examined in various ways. It isn’t going to be a race with the first place getting an A1 etc.

    The key to passing will be knowledge, rather than prowess.

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    May 12th 2016, 6:09 PM

    Some kids are good at music and some are good at sport should they not be treated the same come exam time?

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    May 12th 2016, 6:16 PM

    I was no good at music but good at sport, there was no PE on the leaving for me… I think it deserves the recognition on the leaving especially when sports courses are so widely available in colleges. Nobody will miss out on college over PE as their other subjects will compensate, but it might help ensure some make it into college

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    May 12th 2016, 6:22 PM

    @ Brinster
    I’m not saying that the first to win the race gets an A1 etc what I am saying or probably should have said was that not everyone excels at sports infact some people are bloody awful at anything sport related which is fine they’re good at other things. I just feel if it becomes part of the CAO/Leaving Cert coupled with the fact it may be mandatory due to the importance of why it is being introduced to the curriculum, that it is just going to unfair for some while perfectly fine for the majority.

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    May 12th 2016, 6:24 PM

    Gavin, some kids are bad at math. That’s why we have honors and ordinary level exams.

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    Mute Anne Marie Devlin
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    May 12th 2016, 6:24 PM

    @Fergus. There is JC and LC music already. Those who are into music and art are catered for. My daughter who is musical got to sing for her leaving cert, but my son who is into sports is not given a similar opportunity. He used to complain in primary school about how they would all get into trouble for not practising the tin whistle at home or not knowing their notes, but no one ever got shouted at for not practising their penalty kicks or not being able to hand pass. PE is not taken at all seriously in any sector of our education system. So, if you mean, it’s time to stop the discrimination, I totally agree.

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    May 12th 2016, 6:36 PM

    @ Gavin

    Think you are worrying unnecessarily – the article states “as a full optional subject.”

    Kids who like the subject and have an aptitude for it will study it, those who don’t probably won’t.

    Same as all other optional subjects.

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    Mute James Delaney
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    May 12th 2016, 6:41 PM

    And some students are not interested in or have a flair for Irish, English etc. So the 1 size fits all rule does not apply there either. Its about time PE / Sport was recognised.

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    May 12th 2016, 7:06 PM

    I agree Gavin. And then they will all head off to the nearest deli for a feed of sausage rolls and chicken fillet rolls at lunchtime. Education on nutrition is as important as PE.

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    May 12th 2016, 7:22 PM

    Might as well say what about those teenagers that aren’t into Maths…

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    Mute Sorcha Ní Shúilleabháin
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    May 12th 2016, 9:00 PM

    It’s stated in the article that it would be an optional subject. I doubt it will make much difference..if it’s optional then it will be the kids who are already fit, active and into sports that choose it.

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    May 12th 2016, 9:02 PM

    Could be said for any subject

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    May 12th 2016, 9:33 PM

    I agree. Could children not get credit for individual sport achievements, being into canoeing or swimming maybe? They would still be fit without having extra equipment bought by schools.

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    May 12th 2016, 6:59 PM

    Not everything needs to be about the leaving cert – maybe just do exercise because it good for you.

    A healthy eating subject next?

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    May 12th 2016, 6:45 PM

    I’m doing the leaving this year and I don’t have a PE class as all as those who do higher maths have extra maths class instead. It definitely needs more emphasis as it can be difficult to find time anyway for exercise.

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    Mute Margaret Ann Kehoe
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    May 12th 2016, 6:34 PM

    Yet the department of education plan on making pe an optional 6 week course with the introduction of the new junior cert talk about shooting yourself in the foot!!

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    May 12th 2016, 7:48 PM

    The list should be expanded…how about compulsory classes on 1. Etiquette…having manners, respect
    2. Meditation and Wellbeing with anti-stress 3. How to Study more Successfully…prepare yourself, distractions to avoid 4. Confidence building including group activities to help with shyness…many children don’t get great examples of these activities at home and yet they are all important to creating a well balanced and happier young person. Too much emphasis is placed on memorising and understanding largely abstract subjects which don’t add to the personality or ability of the children.

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    May 12th 2016, 9:12 PM

    Winston – on your point 1, etiquette and manners, what the hell are parents for if they cant teach their own kids that.

    Study skills, confidence building, mindfulness are already done in schools through various programmes.

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    May 12th 2016, 9:38 PM

    Maybe parents don’t need manners to become parents? And it must be a lot easier to go to a school where people are not insulting each others parents, I’d say.

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    May 12th 2016, 9:47 PM

    Aaron, many people lack basic manners such as eating with their mouths open, sneezing out, using their mobiles in inappropriate places such as canteens, littering(including teachers)…these are things which were never said to them that only those close to them would be in a position to do so. The most important CLASS that should be given…an hour each week is how to study…many children simply don’t know how to and get lost, lose interest get stressed. If you can’t study efficiently you are losing straight away in school. These should be separate classes which could replace the too general CSPE, Religion or even reduce the number of subjects to accommodate them. it’s no wonder so many people are depressed and sometimes suicidal and bullied.

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    Mute Michael Sands
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    May 12th 2016, 5:54 PM

    What bull, would teaching children about what food is and what goes into it be better. All this will do is the mentally lazy children choose it like those who take art over science? Is EDUCATION not the key?
    Another thing is people buy rubbish premade meals anyway because it is cheaper and easier to prepare, should parents not be taught how to cook as well as about nutrition?

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    May 12th 2016, 6:22 PM

    Nothing mentally lazy about art if you do it for the Leaving =P

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    Mute Sorcha Ní Shúilleabháin
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    May 12th 2016, 9:05 PM

    This kind of education is already in place for children, it’s the parents that need educating.

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    May 12th 2016, 10:54 PM

    I am using my time at school as potatoe painting / printing versus biology is no contest

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    May 12th 2016, 8:16 PM

    Great idea but where is the money going to come from to provide adequate pe facilities, changing and shower rooms? I know, they can cut back on the supports for children with disabilities even further. That should help all the fatties whose parents stuff them with take aways and crap!

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    May 12th 2016, 6:09 PM

    Will kids be medically screened ?? Cardiomyopathy is a hidden killer

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    Mute Michael Sands
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    May 12th 2016, 10:54 PM

    Then sue the school later?

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    May 12th 2016, 5:30 PM

    Only a lifetime after the french school system.

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    May 13th 2016, 7:33 AM

    Introducing PE as a LC subject is a great idea but introducing it as a means of combatting obesity is a joke.
    Being optional, only students who are interested in sport & health will do the subject- those at risk of obesity will not- thereby completing missing the target audience! If PE becomes a subject at LC level, it will no longer be compulsory for all students, so the little exercise they get in a weekly double class will be scrapped. Time tabling & lack of resources will not allow both. Well done Dept of Ed, another harebrained idea!

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    May 12th 2016, 9:53 PM

    Your diet is what makes you fat, exercise makes you fitter, not thinner.

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    May 12th 2016, 10:07 PM

    They go hand in hand. Exercise can/should make you thinner though. Exercise burns calories. A calorie deficit = weight loss. Anyway, one without the other is a bit pointless. You can be thin, but still have an unhealthy body/heart.

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    May 12th 2016, 5:49 PM

    The teachers won’t agree to it

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    May 12th 2016, 7:33 PM

    Im a PE teacher and i would absolutely love to have the opportunity to teach the subject I’m most passionate about to leaving cert level.

    The only drawback is that we have no indoor facilities in our school, so i hope the government are willing to accompany their new curriculum with an equally new gym and sports lab/ classroom!

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    Mute Pete
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    May 12th 2016, 8:59 PM

    Your a PE teacher that doesn’t teach? Something wrong here already

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    Mute icaniwont
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    May 12th 2016, 8:54 PM

    Great idea if implemented correctly and adequate resources & facilities are provided. But it should start in the Junior Cycle and It should incorporate both physical/mental health and nutrition. The pessimist in me thinks it will be half thrown together tho (thats if it gets off the ground at all!)

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    Mute Liam Byrne
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    May 12th 2016, 9:43 PM

    Physical, mental and nutritional education should come together in one subject. Scrap home economics at leaving certain level.

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    Mute Eamonn Burke
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    May 12th 2016, 10:03 PM

    This is a great idea. As long as it’s taught to as high a level as other subjects, it can teach kids about PROPER nutrition, exercise science as well as probably boosting our sports teams quality. It can teach kids the skills to use for the rest of their life. In some ways it’s more valuable than half the subjects they’re already doing!
    If this is done properly, it can make a very significant impact on obesity (child and adult) within a decade or two.

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    Mute Leah Murphy
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    May 12th 2016, 7:26 PM

    Exercise has all kinds of benefits, but weight loss isn’t one of them. A campaign to drastically reduce the number of fizzy drinks and sugary foods kids have every week would have greater impact on obesity. That said, it’s great to see physical activity being taken seriously at last. Active kids do better academically and have better mental health overall, so thumbs up for this initiative.

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    Mute Charlie M Lewis
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    May 12th 2016, 6:36 PM

    PE is currently compulsary, how is making it an optional subject going to improve things? Anyone with dyspraxia or anything else that impairs their physical abilities, co-ordination skills etc now have a subject option immediately ruled out. Educate the parents on nutrition, increase minimum wages to make fresh food more accessible, reduce prices to make it more affordable and shorten the working day by 30-60 mins so that all excuses for lack of knowledge, funds and time are stomped out. Over feeding your children to the extent of damaging their health is and should be treated as child abuse.

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    Mute t
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    May 12th 2016, 6:45 PM

    Make all gym dodgers stand up in class! One burns 30% more calories when standing.

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    Mute dave muller
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    May 12th 2016, 10:06 PM

    Great!!!!!!! So making it a subject with the resultant paperwork is going to help????? Absolute rubbish. The timetable will not facilitate more than a double class once a week and and with time to change and get from / to class will result in less than 45mins per week. It would need that per day not per week and the number of properly qualified PE teachers would need to be dramatically increased. Local school of 600 has 1 PE teacher.
    The Department of Ed would throw a wobbly if they thought they had to actually provide a programme that would make the slightest difference to the health of the students

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    Mute David Evans
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    May 12th 2016, 6:26 PM

    What sort out CAO choices will want a minimum of a B2 in PE?

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    Mute Daffy the Bear
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    May 12th 2016, 7:40 PM

    Onwards with the campaign of dumbing down of third level entry requirements… why can’t PE just be mandatory in schools until leaving cert level without being included as an exam subject and contributing to CAO points??

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    Mute Cian O Donoghue
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    May 13th 2016, 7:41 AM

    Well David, I can think of a few courses that might…. Physiotherapy, nutrition, sports science, teaching courses,

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    Mute Susan Cox
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    May 12th 2016, 11:38 PM

    Most schools have neither the resources nor the facilities…..unless they are in the Palestinian.

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    May 12th 2016, 11:43 PM

    Pale…..not Palestine. ..stupid predictive text and inattention.

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    Mute postman pat
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    May 13th 2016, 8:49 AM

    full optional subject how will that help anything sure the fat ones just won’t take it

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    Mute Daffy the Bear
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    May 12th 2016, 7:37 PM

    “If it is done properly.. ” What are the chances?

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    Mute Joe
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    May 12th 2016, 10:51 PM

    The nanny state writ large…………..

    Did anyone ever believe that schooling was about education?

    I know it is in dispute but if Mark Twain didn’t say whoever did was bang on….

    “I have never let my schooling interfere with my education.”

    Kick against the prigs.

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    May 26th 2016, 9:22 AM
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    May 13th 2016, 6:54 PM

    This article further exemplifies what’s wrong with Ireland’s 2nd level educational system. PE is a bs subject, taught by inept teachers and should not be compulsory in schools. What would be far more pragmatic in terms of tackling obesity would be to make nutrition a compulsory subject. A healthy diet is far more important to promoting health than exercise alone.

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    May 26th 2016, 9:22 AM

    I have solution for Irish Population, natural and 28 days can change lives!! http://www.slenderiiz.com/mazur

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    May 13th 2016, 8:04 AM

    I think that would put a lot of kids under pressure and a good few at a disadvantage for example people who are over weight would have to loose that weight and I get that that’s the idea but I feel the students student be forced into it by the government also people with disabilities or even just an injury like a broken leg might miss out aswell

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    Mute Micheal S. O' Ceilleachair
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    May 12th 2016, 9:45 PM

    About time too! It’s a disgrace that PE has not been recognized as a subject in its own right.

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    Mute Robert Heffernan
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    May 12th 2016, 9:20 PM

    Absolute rubbish

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    Mute Margo Jackson
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    May 12th 2016, 9:01 PM

    At last a government making sense

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    Mute Alan Noonan
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    May 12th 2016, 11:15 PM

    About time…

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