Advertisement

We need your help now

Support from readers like you keeps The Journal open.

You are visiting us because we have something you value. Independent, unbiased news that tells the truth. Advertising revenue goes some way to support our mission, but this year it has not been enough.

If you've seen value in our reporting, please contribute what you can, so we can continue to produce accurate and meaningful journalism. For everyone who needs it.

Martin says government surprised by scale of anger levelled against them this week

Martin said Fine Gael faced backlash from the people over homelessness comments.

Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin. Sam Boal Sam Boal

FIANNA FÁÍL LEADER Micheál Martin has said the Government was taken off guard with the level of anger levelled against them over their stance on homelessness this week.

Addressing his party members at their annual presidential dinner, he said:

I think they were surprised by the scale of the anger at their effort this week to recast the homelessness situation as really not that bad.  And have no doubt – it was a strategy not a mistake.
The Taoiseach and others worked to put out the idea that as long as things are worse somewhere else we shouldn’t be so negative.

“They got their response in the swift and overwhelming reaction of everyone,” he added.

The government has been forced into repeated explanations, clarifications and comments on what their assessment is of the housing crisis in Ireland.

This was brought on after the Taoiseach was asked to comment on why Ireland’s rate of homelessness was at an all time high, and he answered by calling Ireland’s rate of homelessness low “compared with our peers”.

But when that claim was examined by TheJournal.ie‘s FactCheck team it found that that claim was “unproven”, it is very difficult to compare figures in any meaningful way across different nations.

One of Ireland’s most experienced homeless campaigners, Father Peter McVerry, said that he was “furious” over the Taoiseach’s comments.

But what’s better than that is that we don’t think that’s good enough and we want to continue to reduce homelessness in the years ahead.

“The government should be aware that the time for spin is long over. There must be urgent and sustained delivery. Put aside the staged photos and focus. If they put half as much effort into building houses as they put into launching documents we wouldn’t be caught in the middle of such an unprecedented crisis,” said Martin.

While Martin’s speech coincided with Gerry Adams’ speech at the Sinn Féin Ard Fheis this evening, he again ruled out the possibility of going into government with Sinn Fein – even if Adams is not at the helm.

“The party is much more than the person and the party remains as unreformed and as unsuitable for government as ever.

“I take no satisfaction in saying that, 20 years after the ceasefire, Sinn Fein is unacceptable for us as a government party. As our members reaffirmed at the Ard Fheis, for Fianna Fáil they are not and will not be a possible partner,” he said.

Read: ‘There’s nothing normal about living by the side of the road with your children’

Read: FactCheck: Does Ireland really have a low rate of homelessness by international standards?>

Readers like you are keeping these stories free for everyone...
A mix of advertising and supporting contributions helps keep paywalls away from valuable information like this article. Over 5,000 readers like you have already stepped up and support us with a monthly payment or a once-off donation.

Close
82 Comments
This is YOUR comments community. Stay civil, stay constructive, stay on topic. Please familiarise yourself with our comments policy here before taking part.
Leave a Comment
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Jarlath Murphy
    Favourite Jarlath Murphy
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 8:10 PM

    Still, did you see Leo’s novelty socks?

    They have houses on them!

    That’s their policy position all stitched up!

    Socks appeal and 5 millions for the Ministry of Spin!

    424
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Christy Nolan
    Favourite Christy Nolan
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 8:21 PM

    @Jarlath Murphy:
    Leo’s socks are waiting to pounce
    Q Brinster

    97
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Dot Com
    Favourite Dot Com
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 8:52 PM

    @Jarlath Murphy: Does he not get he’s part of the problem propping up FG

    257
    See 6 more replies ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Colette Kearns
    Favourite Colette Kearns
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 10:58 PM

    @Jarlath Murphy: It really dose say something when the spin doctor earns multiple amounts more that L.V. It’s bloody ridiculous & we all just sit back & take this s**t!

    60
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Colette Kearns
    Favourite Colette Kearns
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 10:59 PM

    @Colette Kearns: does

    4
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Socky Varadkar
    Favourite Socky Varadkar
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 11:40 PM

    @Jarlath Murphy: Least I can afford the best of socks.

    14
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Matthew O'Kane
    Favourite Matthew O'Kane
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 12:06 AM

    @Jarlath Murphy: and marty is helping leo to be up to his neck in his socks ff is keeping fg in power the service and supply agreement, ff come out and wacks lyrical about fg tweedle dee and tweedle dumb

    33
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Matthew O'Kane
    Favourite Matthew O'Kane
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 12:07 AM

    @Matthew O’Kane: how do you do we’re shaking hands

    3
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Liam Treacy
    Favourite Liam Treacy
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 9:03 AM

    @Dot Com: if there was an election they’d get at least 10 extra seats and FF the same. Thankfully the whiners are on the run….

    1
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Franklin Roosevelt
    Favourite Franklin Roosevelt
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 8:16 PM

    Remember that time our national debt spiked by 300% under Fianna Fail?

    Remember how homelessness has spiked by 278% since that fateful bank guarantee?

    I wonder if there’s a correlation there…

    394
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Brian Madden
    Favourite Brian Madden
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 8:46 PM

    @Franklin Roosevelt: Mr Martin and FF are propping up this government.

    235
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Mairtín
    Favourite Mairtín
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 8:59 PM

    @Franklin Roosevelt: need a one man show.

    18
    See 2 more replies ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Patabake Kennedy
    Favourite Patabake Kennedy
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 9:58 PM

    @Brian Madden: Yes Brian, and as we all know, in the future, that friend that has been propped up may be of some assistance, in the future.

    13
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Randal McNally
    Favourite Randal McNally
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 10:11 AM

    @Franklin Roosevelt: YES you a correct, but it was, and still is Fine Gael and Michael Noonan, that have made sure that The odinary people of Ireland have paid and are still ipaying for the greed, and downright incompetence, and fraudulent behavour of the the sleezy lieing bankers.

    15
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Dean Anderson
    Favourite Dean Anderson
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 8:08 PM

    well done to Me hole for all his work in government in wiping out poverty… Bertie, Cowen & Me hole —where would Ireland be today only for them

    276
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute MK76
    Favourite MK76
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 8:08 PM

    Well if Micheal says it must be true….must be awful to feel irrelevant. Even the weather outstaged him and his band of not so merry men.

    132
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Eugene Comaskey
    Favourite Eugene Comaskey
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 11:59 AM

    @MK76: what are ya talking about? Haven’t FF shaped the last TWO Budgets, sure the Government can’t do anything without sanction from FF, were have Ya been for last 2 years?

    11
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Gerry Ryan deG
    Favourite Gerry Ryan deG
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 8:58 PM

    If FF won’t consider SF to be a suitable partner in Govt then they’ll have to rely on FG to return their favour.
    Whichever of them gets the most seats will look to the other for propping up.
    The ‘Republic’ is about the people sharing the resources of the State not the politicians sharing out the goodies of ‘Office’.

    94
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute John Scott
    Favourite John Scott
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 10:05 PM

    @Gerry Ryan deG: that’s what it’s all about the boys an girls an what friends can get something out of the finance pocket . Really that’s what it’s all about. Look at the so called independents, Donnelly need we say more

    41
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Kerry Blake
    Favourite Kerry Blake
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 8:16 PM

    Martin an out of touch man giving out about another out of touch man and his party. Only in Ireland are we “served” by such fools…….

    205
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Dermot Lane
    Favourite Dermot Lane
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 8:20 PM

    @Kerry Blake: I’m not so sure about that. Most countries are run by incompetent eejits. The Brits are as bad as us. Paradoxically there is something about those that seek political power that makes them unsuitable to hold political power.

    122
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Tim Brennan
    Favourite Tim Brennan
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 8:32 PM

    @Dermot Lane: Its utter madness to get uptight about politicians of all descriptions as none refuse the large pot of money from which they enrich themselves.

    64
    See 1 more reply ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Niall O Neill
    Favourite Niall O Neill
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 9:30 PM

    @Dermot Lane: Canvassing should disqualify….

    11
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute John Scott
    Favourite John Scott
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 9:14 PM

    Did man not sit around the table with Bert, Brian an that gang that broke the country an it’s people..

    75
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Dave O Keeffe
    Favourite Dave O Keeffe
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 8:05 PM

    Aided and abetted by himself and his shower of thugs

    225
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Christy Nolan
    Favourite Christy Nolan
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 8:17 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe:
    Mickey Martin should “shut his gob and grow up”

    112
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Niall Binéad
    Favourite Niall Binéad
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 8:27 PM

    Good ole Mr. Martin shying away from any blame on the homelessness crisis! You and your party are a treacherous bunch, the electorate needs to wake up and vote you out of any possibility of forming any government! SHAME ON FINE GAEL & SHAME ON FIANNA FÁIL.
    Sinn Féin Abú!

    149
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Tim Brennan
    Favourite Tim Brennan
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 8:34 PM

    @Niall Binéad: exactly how many people did they make homeless in Northern Ireland.

    17
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Niall Binéad
    Favourite Niall Binéad
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 10:33 PM

    @Tim Brennan: I give up Tim….. tell me!

    25
    See 2 more replies ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Ronan Sexton
    Favourite Ronan Sexton
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 7:23 AM

    @Tim Brennan: yeah Tim, how many? To the nearest 50 will do. And a brief explanation as to how. Cheers.

    15
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Liam Treacy
    Favourite Liam Treacy
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 9:11 AM

    @Niall Binéad: SF scare most sane people. FF and FG will get at least +20 seats in the next election. Put €20 on with Paddy Power. Racing certainty.

    3
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute John Dman
    Favourite John Dman
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 8:16 PM

    Martin is a two headed snake!

    131
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Michael J Foley
    Favourite Michael J Foley
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 1:09 AM

    €5 million to pay for spin doctors per year for Leo. 16 social housing units built last year for Dublin. I am not a left wing do gooder nor am I involved with any political party. However this situation is far from all right and totally unacceptable. Unless there is a marked improvement for all to see I will cast my vote to put them out of Government.I hope the Irish people will do the same. Genuine people and especially children of our country must be looked after. I know there are some who are not so genuine but that is no excuse not to help the majority of homeless. We Irish are better then that and let’s make a stat by eliminating this Government if they do not perform in a meaningful way.

    38
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Daithí Uí Ciarmhaic
    Favourite Daithí Uí Ciarmhaic
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 9:16 PM

    Man who sat at cabinet level whilst the seeds for the current crisis were sown lambasts government over fruits of said seeds reaching fruition. The funny part is it’s all a charade FG wouldn’t be able to govern without FF

    56
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Elizabeth Gregory
    Favourite Elizabeth Gregory
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 10:13 PM

    @Daithí Uí Ciarmhaic: indeed @Daithi Ui Ciarmhaic. We have a coalition. A unification of the obscene and the dishonest. As an electorate, we need to ensure they never, ever get the chance to shaft us again.

    47
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Denis McClean
    Favourite Denis McClean
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 1:15 AM

    @Elizabeth Gregory: If they were in a coalition they could claim some kind of joint and therefore democratic mandate but they are not. They have a confidence and supply arrangement which means that we have a government and an opposition, both without mandate.

    16
    See 1 more reply ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Liam Treacy
    Favourite Liam Treacy
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 9:14 AM

    @Elizabeth Gregory: Liz it is nothing to the shafting youd get from SF and AAA and the other lunatic left. If we had an election the middle ground would hack up.

    1
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Real Y. Duale
    Favourite Real Y. Duale
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 10:26 PM

    The time for spin is long over

    30
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Melissa O'Callaghan
    Favourite Melissa O'Callaghan
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 8:23 PM

    That is because you are so out of touch with reality.

    38
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Adrian
    Favourite Adrian
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 9:25 PM

    There’s no need for martin to say it, he’s giddy that FG effed up big time on this. We all know Leo’s and the govs attitude to the homeless crisis is disgraceful.

    38
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Patabake Kennedy
    Favourite Patabake Kennedy
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 10:15 PM

    Coincidence or not, whilst Jerry Adams was making his speech, this fella should have been thinking about how to get one over on Leo and his ilk in order to try and bring some type of normal life to the people of this land that so badly needs genuine leadership. NOW.

    25
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute William Bryan
    Favourite William Bryan
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 10:23 PM

    Martin supports and props up FG

    35
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute @mdmak33
    Favourite @mdmak33
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 8:49 PM

    The anger was just as much at ff mr martin,you are only fooling yourself, and others to keep leadership of ft . you’re weakness is killing the party.

    43
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Socky Varadkar
    Favourite Socky Varadkar
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 11:43 PM

    No crisis whatsoever, compared our levels with India, Nigeria, south Africa and lads we ain’t to bad now rents are affordable. No homeless crisis accept it #sockyknowsbest

    22
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Brian O Reilly
    Favourite Brian O Reilly
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 4:37 AM

    Leo is not getting his investment back with his spin team,

    17
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute hallelujah
    Favourite hallelujah
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 11:49 PM

    Fianna Fáil are just puppets of Fine Gael.

    26
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Denis McClean
    Favourite Denis McClean
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 1:09 AM

    By ruling out a coalition or a supply and confidence arrangement with SF, Michael Martin is telling the Irish Electorate that they will have FF/FG or FFG forever. Intelligent democrats will see that for what it is and burn his A$$. Not very clever.

    19
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute nick mullen
    Favourite nick mullen
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 11:45 PM

    As far as leo is concerned the homeless people sleeping by the canal are nasty bunch of people? Maybe their not from Castleknock!

    23
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Jack O'neill
    Favourite Jack O'neill
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 11:14 PM

    Mehole is the image of Mr Burns from The Simpsons and has his characteristics.What a sneaky looking snake with his false outrage just pull the plug you snake.

    30
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Mary Mc Carthy
    Favourite Mary Mc Carthy
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 10:02 PM

    Show out of touch they are with the ‘real people’

    19
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Andre le Flohic
    Favourite Andre le Flohic
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 8:30 PM
    9
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Randal McNally
    Favourite Randal McNally
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 10:16 AM

    A Fianna Fáil, Green busted economy, followed by a Fine Gael, Labour busted society. Kenny, Noonan, and now Viradker ‘s mantra continues

    9
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Brendan Farrell
    Favourite Brendan Farrell
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 9:22 AM

    So, in short Michéal Martin confirms he’ll prop up a minority FG government for another 5year term

    8
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Chris Turner
    Favourite Chris Turner
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 1:05 AM

    They really do think we are all stupid mr Martin coming out against The government but yet his party is propping them up

    I smell an election soon

    23
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Unitedpeople
    Favourite Unitedpeople
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 6:49 AM

    This being the case – then why the hell is FF continuing to prop the other national wasters up? Laughable!

    15
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Willy Malone
    Favourite Willy Malone
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 5:44 AM

    Yup , Mehole… The people will just continuing with FF or FG … Near century now. .. You told em….

    13
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Ryo Nakamura
    Favourite Ryo Nakamura
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 9:17 AM

    More they spin more they start to sound incompetent…

    10
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Dave Walsh
    Favourite Dave Walsh
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 8:25 AM

    To have a home…a roof over your head,a place for you to cook.Feel safe when you and your family sleep.History has though us if its given without being earned that privilege can be abused and a sense of entitlement is installed.The welfare state continues..We need to plan.Yes have a placement program based on merit…so those who wish to get a home have earned it…reform if there’s a drug or a drink problem …A willingness to get employment and not just get the dole…bring our people away from the drug dealers and leeches in our society.

    6
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Father Hody Commody
    Favourite Father Hody Commody
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 9:20 AM

    @Dave Walsh: Very simplistic there Dave – ‘bring our people away from the drug dealers and leeches in our society‘. How is that going to be done?. Great to make pronouncements but more difficult to elaborate.

    10
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Dave Walsh
    Favourite Dave Walsh
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 12:45 PM

    @Father Hody Commody: there is no silver bullet in my line of work I deal with damaged people every day…and their children.my suggestion is merely a point of view.Simplistic yes..

    1
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Donal Desmond
    Favourite Donal Desmond
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 12:56 PM

    Stand open to correction… but does not Michael Martin’s party keep Leo and his cohorts in power.? In case it escapes Martin’s attention, was it not under the tenure of a F.F.government in which Martin was a minister that facilitated the gangesterism of the banks and developers who brought this country to it’s knees. Michael Martain stated he knew and was not told about the financial crash that was coming down the line. That makes him a fool or a liar. He is both
    .

    6
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute James Mc Loughlin
    Favourite James Mc Loughlin
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 1:39 PM

    And still Fianna Fail are sitting on the wall

    3
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Mary Byrne
    Favourite Mary Byrne
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 10:35 AM

    ruined our country exiled our children.but dont worry mister martin plenty of clowns in this country will vote for you, and your cronies

    10
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Derek Poutch
    Favourite Derek Poutch
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 10:08 PM

    Ff make me sick propping up fg while at the same time trying to score points against them. Do they think people are stupid? They have not got the balls because they know people have kopped on to their shit.
    .

    41
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Paul O Riordan
    Favourite Paul O Riordan
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 10:11 PM

    Hypocritical bunch of crooks ff fg and Labour the same of sf aaaa and independance. Self serving the whole rotten lot

    19
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Eileen O'Sullivan
    Favourite Eileen O'Sullivan
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 1:58 PM

    Don’t forget FF are agreeing to all FG minority government policies. Kill the second seat transfers. Leave FF and FG off your ballot entirely.

    3
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Martin Murphy
    Favourite Martin Murphy
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 2:31 PM

    Fine Gael show once again that they are a billion light years away from the wishes of the people. They are an arrogant ignorant shower of extreme right wing facists

    5
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Stephen Maher
    Favourite Stephen Maher
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 9:00 PM

    FG are a bunch of idiots.

    45
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute winston smith
    Favourite winston smith
    Report
    Nov 18th 2017, 10:05 PM

    What a fantastic contribution.

    9
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Stephen Maher
    Favourite Stephen Maher
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 1:32 PM

    @winston smith:

    Thanks.

    3
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Eric Davies
    Favourite Eric Davies
    Report
    Nov 20th 2017, 10:44 PM

    well me-hole as bachman turner overdrive said “YOU AINT SEEN NOTHING YET ” !

    1
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Lovely Man
    Favourite Lovely Man
    Report
    Nov 21st 2017, 1:51 PM

    The greatest election asset Sinn Fein has is the goms in FFG.

    1
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Ian Kavanagh
    Favourite Ian Kavanagh
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 11:22 AM

    Yes .. let’s ignore everything that FG do and blame FF for EVERYTHING

    1
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute John French
    Favourite John French
    Report
    Nov 19th 2017, 8:48 PM

    Wow, your arrogance is unreal. Leo is taking you to school boy.!!!!

    1
Submit a report
Please help us understand how this comment violates our community guidelines.
Thank you for the feedback
Your feedback has been sent to our team for review.

Leave a commentcancel

 
JournalTv
Video Player is loading.
Current Time 0:00
Duration 0:00
Loaded: 0%
Stream Type LIVE
Remaining Time 0:00
 
1x
    • descriptions off, selected
    • captions and subtitles off, selected
      News in 60 seconds