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Mother of 11-year-old who took her own life set up suicide support group

Milly Tuomey posted on Instagram to hundreds of friends of her intention to die on a certain date.

THE MOTHER OF Milly Tuomey (11) set up a suicide support group to help others and prevent future loss of life in the wake of her daughter’s death.

Fiona Tuomey founded the Healing Untold Grief Group (HUGG) with a number of specific aims.

Dublin Coroner’s Court heard that on 3 November 2015 Milly posted on Instagram to hundreds of friends of her intention to die on a certain date.

The Tuomey family said their daughter’s post to Instagram that she had chosen the day she would die came like a ‘bolt out of the blue.’

“Milly was extremely vivacious, loud, chatty and fun. She had a super relationship with her sister. When she entered a room you knew about it, she was that kind of girl,” Mrs Tuomey said.

The family, from Dublin 6 had recently moved back to Ireland from Switzerland and Milly had settled in well.

“She was very happy at school and loved it, She had new best friends, there was no bullying, she was not left out,” the child’s mother said.

Fiona Tuomey set up the HUGG support group to help others bereaved by suicide.

“The aim was to bring people together who have lost others to suicide. To provide peer support so people don’t feel so alone,” Mrs Tuomey said, speaking at the inquest into her daughter’s death earlier this week.

“It is also a point of information and a suicide authority to ring-fence services and prevent gaps, to prevent others going through what we have gone through,” she said.

Warning signs

The family did everything in their power to help Milly after they became aware of her Instagram post on 3 November 2015.

“We spoke with her and with her school and we took her to her GP.” The family said that they felt that it should be obligatory for all Irish GPs to be “specifically trained in identifying the recognised red flags associated with suicidal risk”.

The Tuomey family had lived in Switzerland for five years and Milly was a fluent speaker of German and Swiss German. She loved figure skating and had entered competitions. She loved to play the piano.

When Milly left her parents, sister and grandfather watching a film in the living room to go upstairs, saying she was ‘bored’ on 1 January 2016, she said she was going to play the piano.

Earlier, her parents had spoken to her about her refusal to eat lunch and the importance of her health. Milly had previously spoken of her unhappiness with her appearance.

Annoyed

On the night of 1 January, she was on Instagram and her parents told her she was not to leave the living room with her iPad. She’d been ‘annoyed by this’. She was found moments later in a critical condition upstairs and rushed to hospital where she died on 4 January.

Suicide in this age group is rare but becoming more frequent, according to Prof Ella Arensman, Director of Research at the National Suicide Research Foundation.

She warned that younger children are now choosing ‘more highly lethal’ methods of self harm than previously. It is not known yet if this is connected to exposure to social media, Dr Arensen said.

“We see more young people where the time window of self harm moving onto highly lethal methods (or adult type methods) seems to be much shorter. We are concerned about exposures that are difficult for us to control,” Dr Arensman said.

Healing Untold Grief support group can be found here.

If you need to talk, contact:

  • Samaritans 116 123 or email jo@samaritans.org
  • Aware 1800 80 48 48 (depression, anxiety)
  • Pieta House 1800 247 247 or email mary@pieta.ie (suicide, self-harm)
  • Teen-Line Ireland 1800 833 634 (for ages 13 to 19)
  • Childline 1800 66 66 66 (for under 18s)

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    Mute Martin
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    Sep 27th 2017, 10:41 PM

    I dread to think how much money has been wasted by “Dublin City Council and its Consultants” and all the other things that money could have been used for..

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    Mute Morizy
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    Sep 28th 2017, 1:18 AM

    @Liam flag: couldn’t agree more.

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    Mute Andrew Corrigan
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    Sep 28th 2017, 1:25 AM

    @Morizy: thats cause there in the way of your car as apposed to on a segregated cycleway,muppet goverment want every buying petrol same with trains theres feck all a them,da country could be sewn up with train and bike but theres feck all tax in that

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    Mute Dave Ringer
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    Sep 28th 2017, 6:30 PM

    @Andrew Corrigan: nope. No idea what that means

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    Mute Paul Culligan
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    Sep 27th 2017, 10:40 PM

    Make a start by training the cyclists, and the deaths will drop automatically.

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    Mute Fiona deFreyne
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    Sep 27th 2017, 10:51 PM

    @Paul Culligan: how are responsible cyclists protected from negligent vehicle drivers?

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    Mute Gavin Cronin
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    Sep 27th 2017, 10:52 PM

    @Paul Culligan: you can’t train someone to not be knocked off a bicycle when they’re in heavy vehicle traffic. The infrastructure at the moment just makes cyclists even more vulnerable.

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    Mute Katie Daly
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    Sep 27th 2017, 10:53 PM

    @Paul Culligan: It’s all well and good blaming a cyclist when the drivers got a tonne or two of metal protecting them. (I’m not a cyclist, simply because I don’t want to be killed in the road.) I’m generally very patient when waiting to overtake safely and then theres an a**ehole up my backside trying to overtake me & the cyclist. And then there’s the lovely f**kers that cycle three abreast on a road. If we could all just be a bit nicer to each other….

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    Mute Steve Mac
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    Sep 27th 2017, 10:53 PM

    @Paul Culligan: how exactly does training a cyclist protect them from an arsehole in a car who refuses to pass at a safe distance?

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    Mute B9xiRspG
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    Sep 27th 2017, 11:16 PM

    @Fiona deFreyne: what about negligent cyclists that wave in and out of moving traffic?

    Skip through red lights as if they don’t apply to them.

    Drive on foot paths forcing people off.

    It’s not an one sided issue, cyclist and motorists are both too blame

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    Mute Gulliver Foyle
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    Sep 27th 2017, 11:21 PM

    @B9xiRspG: maybe, just maybe, having a completely segregated cycle path would eliminate every single one of your issues for the minority. As a cyclist, I don’t want to be killed getting from a to b. As a driver, I don’t want to kill a cyclists who has to do what you say above to stay safe. It’s not mutually exclusive – just give cyclists a separate lane, and stop them from being on roads when one is provided.

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    Mute Dave Murray
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    Sep 27th 2017, 11:43 PM

    @Steve Mac: What about the arsehole cyclist?

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    Mute Living The Laws
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    Sep 27th 2017, 11:59 PM

    @Fiona deFreyne: see, the thing is. Cyclists would be much better off encroaching on pedestrian spaces instead of being squeezed into a space where they will come out worst in any collision.

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    Mute Nathan Cahill
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    Sep 28th 2017, 12:05 AM

    @Paul Culligan: You are an idiot!

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    Mute Fiona deFreyne
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    Sep 28th 2017, 12:11 AM

    A cyclist can be and will often be killed by the negligence of the driver of multi ton metal objects. The driver of the potentially killing vehicle should have a higher duty of care.

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    Mute dodofrey
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    Sep 28th 2017, 12:25 AM

    @Paul Culligan: Put your phone down Paul and indicate when you turn

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    Mute Melissa O'Callaghan
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    Sep 28th 2017, 6:41 AM

    @Paul Culligan: maybe as it’s so dangerous to travel by bike that only the most adventurous cycles use the non seggregated roads in heavy traffic. They are by personality more impulsive so it isn’t their mode of transport that defines them but their aversion to risk.

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    Mute Fluich Go Craicean
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    Sep 28th 2017, 7:00 AM

    @B9xiRspG: ask yourself why they weave.
    1. There’s no cycle path for them.
    2. Some drivers are inconsiderate and are to close to the kerb that they don’t allow them room.
    3. Cars are 6 foot wide, 15 ft long, contain 1 person , block the road and move very slow

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    Mute dodofrey
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    Sep 28th 2017, 7:25 AM

    @Fluich Go Craicean: Take Orwell Park in Rathgar/Milltown for example. Every morning in busy traffic it suddenly becomes a two lane road despite there only being room for one car wide. I saw cars yesterday mount the the kerb and fly down the footpath. There is literally no room for anything. Whilst I don’t cycle on the footpath I’ve no choice but to weave (not wave) around the cars.

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    Mute Fred Coloe
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    Sep 28th 2017, 10:27 AM

    @Fiona deFreyne: where would I find/see a responsible cyclist??? It’s a miracle there aren’t cyclists killed or seriously injured every hour in Dublin. I seem a cyclist hit a pedestrian yesterday….did he stop…did he f**k. Will it be reported…NO. No investment without responsible law abiding behaviour first.

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    Mute Aidan Molyneux
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    Sep 28th 2017, 10:35 AM

    @Fiona deFreyne: the number of gobs417es that are out there with NO HELMET. NO VIS AND NO LIGHTS. The next time your out count them . And I’m on both sides of the fence

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    Mute Kal Ipers
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    Sep 28th 2017, 12:20 PM

    @Aidan Molyneux: Helmet is little protection and not a requirement. Hi vis are also not mandatory and if drivers need cyclists to wear hi vis it is because they aren’t looking properly. Lights are mandatory and cyclists should be prosecuted for it.
    You aren’t on the fence if you see the obligations are on cyclists when it is drivers killing people and the accident reports are generally put down to the driver not the cyclist.

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    Mute Aidan Molyneux
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    Sep 28th 2017, 12:59 PM

    @Kal Ipers: well if im driving i Must wear my seatbelt to protect myself. A helmet as you say is little protection . But one slight tip could make the difference of life or death.they should be compulsory If you dont wear a seat belt the first thing to hit the windsreen is your head. A high viz costs a fiver how much is a life. On a dark road it gives both a better chance no matter how good a driver

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    Mute Kal Ipers
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    Sep 28th 2017, 1:28 PM

    @Aidan Molyneux: It has been proven a helmet in a car would be better for drivers than a cyclist. Makes more sense to make it mandatory for people in cars than cyclists. If you want helmets and hi vis mandatory you want to back up the safety improvements.
    Where as they already know as fact that driving at speed is more dangerous. What you are saying is it is worth imposing changes to cyclists with minor improvements is better than dealing with real world actual issues such as speeding which basically allowed with minor punishments.

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    Mute Gary Kearney
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    Sep 28th 2017, 7:56 PM

    @Fiona deFreyne: The problem is a hell of a lot of them are not. Sit on Binns Bridge and watch them. You may be your friends may be but a hell of a lot are not.

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    Sep 28th 2017, 7:58 PM

    @Kal Ipers: Helmets are very important protection from Traumatic Brain Injury.

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    Mute Mark Walsh
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    Sep 27th 2017, 10:54 PM

    If you drive a car/bus/truck/motorcycle on the road you have to do a Theroy test ‘ 12 lessons with a qualified instructor and undergo a driving test …only then will you be allowed unaccompanied on the public roads with a N plate to inform other drivers you are a novice
    Cyclist are road users and therefore should undergo some sort of training and licensing and the road traffic laws should apply with penalties as with the rest of us

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    Sep 27th 2017, 11:06 PM

    @Mark Walsh: maybe have a tandem so that a qualified cyclist could be with all the kids cycling to school…ffs…i drive and see knobs on bikes and in cars except it the person on the bike who will generally get hurt…relax and give them space..we will still be behind that car when we pass them…

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    Mute Fluich Go Craicean
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    Sep 27th 2017, 11:17 PM

    @Mark Walsh: cars weigh 1.5 tonnes are 6 foot wide , solid metal , travel in excess of 100kmh and kill people daily.

    What’s your point?

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    Sep 28th 2017, 12:42 AM

    @Mark Walsh: Well then that test is obviously ineffective at teaching people the basics when it comes to driving. Cars who don’t indicate, cars who do not look when turning, the use of mobile phones, cars who park on double yellows and on footpaths….
    If it makes you happier I will willingly do a cyclist theory test, you are also free to come watch and inspect my cycling. Once you’ve seen I cycle safely and carefully will I still be blamed for all issues regarding the road?
    Moan all you want but it took me 15 minutes to get to work today, I saw cars stuck in miles long tailbacks. Those tailbacks due to a bit of rain and drivers driving like idiots in it.

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    Mute Mark Walsh
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    Sep 28th 2017, 4:17 AM

    @Dan:
    My point Dan is that some cyclists have a blatant disregard for the rules of the road and don’t seem to see red traffic lights’ trucks turning left which may have blind spots and can’t see a cyclist who may be traveling at 20-30klm an hour and don’t see the danger and expect drivers to see them
    My point is education for cyclists too
    Obviously you don’t have much if you missed the point ☝️

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    Sep 28th 2017, 4:19 AM

    @Fluich Go Craicean:
    I refer to my answer below

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    Mute Larissa Caroline Nikolaus
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    Sep 28th 2017, 6:14 AM

    @Mark Walsh: You’re as much an idiot as Paul Culligan

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    Sep 28th 2017, 7:51 AM

    @Mark Walsh: Dart delayed on northbound and southbound routes after truck hits bridge http://jrnl.ie/3615927

    Maybe this guy is lacking in education also? Or is it still the cyclist fault?

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    Sep 28th 2017, 8:45 AM

    @Mark Walsh: I’ll risk the opinion that 80% of those cyclists have the driving licence so they should be very much aware of the rules on road.

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    Sep 28th 2017, 11:29 AM

    @astjan:
    Can you back up that assumption with verifiable data

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    Sep 27th 2017, 10:40 PM

    Disgraceful decision. Corruption is rife amongst some of these councillors.

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    Sep 27th 2017, 11:43 PM

    @Millsdm: eh , it wasn’t the Councillors -it was rejected by the NTA

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    Sep 28th 2017, 12:09 AM

    @Millsdm: Yeah, they are definitely in the pockets of SIMI and the oil companies.

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    Sep 28th 2017, 5:26 AM

    @Dave Hammond: I find anyone who has the arrogance to start their point with “eh” generally has no idea what they on about. To be fair this article is far from accurate. NTA has technically suspended this not rejected it, but ultimately it will likely mean the same thing. The NTA have come to this decision this morning due to huge pressure from certain councillors referring to the route as anti motorist etc .The meeting was available to view online.

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    Sep 28th 2017, 7:02 AM

    @Dave Hammond: it was the councillors fault , they had the money they couldn’t decide which option to use so after a couple of years the NTA pulled the money

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    Sep 28th 2017, 7:59 PM

    @Millsdm: Oh dear you and 206 people never read the article but assumed as usual

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    Sep 27th 2017, 10:42 PM

    The cycle lane should have followed the Luas Line. Would have been much safer..

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    Sep 27th 2017, 11:15 PM

    @The Viking: true true

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    Mute Austin hickey
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    Sep 27th 2017, 11:27 PM

    @Austin hickey: 20 mil on a cycle lane and people dying on our streets xxxx me

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    Sep 27th 2017, 11:42 PM

    @The Viking:

    How unsafe is it now?

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    Mute Steve B
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    Sep 27th 2017, 11:57 PM

    @Austin hickey: …and €500,000,000 today on a motorway in Galway to a town of less than 10,000 people. 20,000 cyclists would have used this every day, taking cars off the roads

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    Sep 28th 2017, 8:08 AM

    @Austin hickey: how much did the new motorway in the West cost? The relativly puny amount of money spent on cycling infrastructure saves lives and not just from traffic collisions, several studies have shown that cyclists live longer and are healthier than the general population, the benefits of cycling are even greater than walking or running. Saving potentially millions for our health services..

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    Sep 28th 2017, 11:30 AM

    @Austin hickey:

    Totally agree with you Austin

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    Mute Gary Kearney
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    Sep 28th 2017, 8:00 PM

    @The Viking: The Luas line is a cycle lane most days,

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    Mute Glen Hanratty
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    Sep 27th 2017, 10:43 PM

    Of course more bikes go down the Quays at rush hour because all the cars are stuck and going no where. Why don’t they use the route the luas takes and run a bike lane beside that.

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    Mute Fluich Go Craicean
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    Sep 28th 2017, 7:03 AM

    @Glen Hanratty: there’s not enough space, a two lane cycle track needs a minimum of 3m.

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    Mute Fiona deFreyne
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    Sep 27th 2017, 10:44 PM

    Cyclist safety and convenience is a very low priority. Other priorities march ahead.

    Cycling the quays is ultra dangerous.

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    Mute Nick Allen
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    Sep 27th 2017, 11:43 PM

    @Fiona deFreyne:

    How many are killed or injured each day cycling the quays?

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    Mute Living The Laws
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    Sep 28th 2017, 12:00 AM

    @Fiona deFreyne: its low priority for the roads authorities.

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    Sep 28th 2017, 12:13 AM

    @Nick Allen: not every day but some days and this year so far there has been more than twice the number of cyclist deaths in Ireland as for all of last year.

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    Sep 28th 2017, 12:55 AM

    @Fiona deFreyne:

    In Ireland is not the question, you are specifically talking about the quays

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    Sep 28th 2017, 8:15 AM

    @Fiona deFreyne: it’s already higher than last year Fiona but it’s not double

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    Mute Shawn O'Ceallaghan
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    Sep 27th 2017, 10:46 PM

    Cyclist deaths have dropped nearly 75% in the last 16 years. How many have died on the quays. Would be nice to see why NTA withdrew funding. I’d expect speed limit at 30km plus bus lanes are sufficient. Making the road smaller is hardly helpful.

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    Mute Fiona deFreyne
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    Sep 27th 2017, 10:52 PM

    @Shawn O’Ceallaghan: a few have died on the quays.

    More than twice the number of cyclists have died so far this year compared to all the cyclist deaths of last year.

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    Sep 27th 2017, 11:18 PM

    @Fiona deFreyne: that would imply 18 people have died ytd for 2017. Thats not true. As of June, 4 of the 11 people who have died in Dublin. Of that none along that route. 1 however was close on patrick street. Worthwhile noting in 1990, 46 people died while cycling.

    Just a thought but could this 20 million be used elsewhere for the benefit of making the roads safer.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/the-10-cyclists-killed-on-our-roads-to-date-this-year-1.3128356%3fmode=amp

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    Sep 27th 2017, 11:23 PM

    @Shawn O’Ceallaghan: a councillor wouldn’t get out of bed for €20m, never mind out in place a national plan!

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    Sep 27th 2017, 11:59 PM

    Delighted. Can they please spend that money on an outer m50 for people who work on Dublin and live in Kildare, Meath and Louth?

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    Mute Fluich Go Craicean
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    Sep 28th 2017, 7:04 AM

    @byrne3g: it’s build less then 1meter of road

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    Sep 28th 2017, 10:45 AM

    @byrne3g: Will this outer Ringroad be tolled? Maybe we should hike up the cost of “Motor Tax” to pay for it? after all, if it’s a “Motorway”, those freeloading, red light jumping, pavement cycling, cyclists won’t be able to use it. OR, maybe they could spend taxpayers money on better public transport, which would benefit ALL taxpayers? just a thought..

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    Sep 27th 2017, 11:01 PM

    Build it and put a toll on it make it illegal to cycle on the road so they have to use it and pay for it them self’s!

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    Sep 27th 2017, 11:51 PM

    @Paddy: they’re tax payers in the majority Paddy and likely car owners also in a lot of cases. Should we charge pedestrians for building footpaths? It’s a scandalous decision after years of sinking money into it. Build the bloody lane, keep cyclists safe, destress motorists by keeping both apart, encourage fitness and save lives. Lot’s of boxes checked but these backward clowns would probably rather spend the 20m on magic beans. Idiots!

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    Sep 28th 2017, 8:20 AM

    @Paddy: are you deluded enough to think that what you pay in motor tax covers the costs of building roads etc? Motoring is massively subsidised by the taxpayer, taxpayers who may never have even owned a car.

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    Mute Alan Kelly
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    Sep 28th 2017, 10:17 AM

    @Paddy: “Please, do yourself a favour: Realise it’s irrational (bicycles do far more good than harm) and then get over it.”

    http://irishcycle.com/2017/07/02/6-problems-with-cyclists-should-have-to-pay-road-tax/

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    Mute Fiona Fallon
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    Sep 28th 2017, 12:05 AM

    Could we not extend the board walks by the Liffey and use them as cycle lanes…wouldn’t interfer with traffic at all.

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    Mute Kal Ipers
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    Sep 28th 2017, 9:30 AM

    @Fiona Fallon: Have you looked at the boardwalk? It is isn’t continuous because of the bridges. It would also be extremely unsafe for weather and assaults

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    Mute iMoan Brutal
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    Sep 27th 2017, 10:52 PM

    More people travel down the quays by bike than by car during rush hour…well duh if its closed to cars..

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    Mute Kevin Farrell
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    Sep 27th 2017, 11:14 PM

    @iMoan Brutal: Since when are the quays closed to cars????

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    Mute Gavin Cronin
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    Sep 27th 2017, 11:19 PM

    @Kevin Farrell: it’s not closed to cars. The issue is about physical space and speeds of the quays.

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    Mute Nick Allen
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    Sep 27th 2017, 11:46 PM

    @iMoan Brutal:

    Would it be too much to ask for some evidence to support your argument or are u just making it up

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    Mute Randal McNally
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    Sep 28th 2017, 1:37 AM

    They need to make cyclists traceable and responsible for their dreadful road behaviour first.

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    Mute Tbagsmac
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    Sep 28th 2017, 7:50 AM

    Don’t understand the objection people have to funding a cycle lane. It will be safer and less stressful for all road users. Car use needs to be reduced in the city and this may encourage more cycling. Terrible backwards decision by NTA to withdraw funding

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    Mute Gary Kearney
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    Sep 28th 2017, 8:06 PM

    @Tbagsmac: Why is that because where there are cycle ways they re ignored just like traffic light and trucks turning left. Some people on bikes think they own the world.

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    Mute Gary Kearney
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    Sep 28th 2017, 8:13 PM

    @Tbagsmac: I can think of 20 million seeing as you dont pay anything into the NTA

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    Mute Morizy
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    Sep 28th 2017, 1:17 AM

    Good they don’t deserve it absolute shocking waste of money.

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    Mute Living The Laws
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    Sep 28th 2017, 12:03 AM

    we need wider footpaths to accommodate cyclists on major thoroughfares.

    and, if there is no room then stop squeezing them into non-existence space on the roads.

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    Mute Kal Ipers
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    Sep 28th 2017, 7:21 AM

    @Living The Laws: anywhere the cycle lanes are on paths they have pedestrians walk in them making them dangerous to use and you have to travel slower.

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    Sep 28th 2017, 8:04 PM

    @Living The Laws: Why bother they use the paths anyway.

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    Mute Stu MacDuff
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    Sep 27th 2017, 11:00 PM

    Complete bullshit. I’m a cyclist and a motorcyclist. Everyday I conspire not to get knocked off my bike. That’s because I’m trained and licensed. All road users should require to be trained and licensed.

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    Mute Martin Sinnott
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    Sep 28th 2017, 6:07 AM

    They should spend some money on footpaths around the city. Make them more wheelchair friendly. Billions are spent on roads for cars and cyclists.

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    Mute Gary Kearney
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    Sep 28th 2017, 8:03 PM

    @Martin Sinnott: That was the idea behind #makewayday to make access across the country better for disabled people. Cyclists only think of themselves blocking paths, using paths and pedestrian crossings. Always playing the poor mouth as well.

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    Mute Gary Kearney
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    Sep 28th 2017, 8:05 PM

    @Martin Sinnott: Footpath get the idea, cyclists are the guests there not the other way around.

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    Mute john murphy
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    Sep 28th 2017, 7:32 AM

    Delighted, great decision just need Keegan to be removed from his position in the council and hopefully we can get some more common sense applied to traffic planning in Dublin. How he’s got away with blatantly over prioritising the interest of cyclists is incredible.

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    Mute Dermot Lane
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    Sep 28th 2017, 8:50 AM

    @john murphy: cycling is being prioritised in every forward looking city in the world, with great success.Dublin can’t handle any more cars and so alternatives need to be put in place, like cycling infrastructure and prioritising public transport.

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    Mute Gary Kearney
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    Sep 28th 2017, 8:12 PM

    @Dermot Lane: Dublin has given loads to cyclists at no cost to them. About time you paid for all of this. They took the foot path in the Phoenix Park and turned it into a cycle path and made pedestrians walk on an unlit path under trees. People have been mugged there.
    If you want to get to you car you cross the cycle path and get abuse from cyclists. What was a pleasant walk is now dangerous s both paths are used by cyclists and when they have to go back on the road they don’t.

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    Mute Stevie Doran
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    Sep 27th 2017, 10:59 PM

    Jokeshop

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    Mute JMac
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    Sep 28th 2017, 1:14 AM

    Lights R4 Bikes 2.

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    Mute Tony Hannon
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    Sep 28th 2017, 3:57 PM

    My heart goes out to Mamils everywhere

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    Mute Martin Murphy
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    Sep 28th 2017, 8:44 AM

    We never hear of more investment when motorists deaths are up only the introduction of yet more fines.

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    Mute Dermot Lane
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    Sep 28th 2017, 8:53 AM

    @Martin Murphy: there’s massive investment being made into motor infrastructure; did you not see the cost of the new motorway that just opened? Anyway motorist deaths have been decreasing steadily over the past decade. Proper cycling infrastructure would benefit all road users not just cyclists.

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    Mute M3murf™ Rob
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    Sep 28th 2017, 7:46 AM

    I Wonder how many people 20million would take off our streets in time for winter.

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    Mute Sean @114
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    Sep 28th 2017, 8:56 AM

    @M3murf™ Rob: don’t know but would certainly save cyclists’ lives, prevent collisions, prevent injuries, prevent insurance payouts, de-stress motorists on the quays, encourage more commuters to use bikes, encourage more active lifestyle….. An absolute no brainer in terms of the spend and a shocking decision from the NTA.

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    Sep 28th 2017, 8:41 AM

    Segregated cycle ways don’t work as it gives away the rights of way of the cyclist to vehicles and you loose the flow of traffic. However a cycle lane on the ‘hard shoulder’ of the road works very well delimitated by dash dot markings and cycling symbols. The threat of vehicles accidentally encroaching on the lane still exists but it’s much more usable than segregation. Segregation is a mess at junctions and if they aren’t going to be used by the faster cyclists what’s the point. I’ve seen all different methods of cycle way in France and the segregated ones were the most confusing and annoying for breaking the flow of peddling.

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