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DUP leader Arlene Foster NurPhoto via PA Images

DUP 'pleased' with Brexit deal but says 'more work needs to be done' on border issue

A deal to avoid a hard border has been reached between the UK and EU.

NORTHERN IRELAND’S DUP party pulled the rug on the first Brexit deal put on the table on Monday, but today the party’s leader has said she is “pleased” with the new deal.

A deal to avoid a hard border was initially expected to be announced on Monday afternoon.

The UK was expected to concede that there will be no “regulatory divergence” on the island of Ireland in relation to the single market and customs union. However, the DUP said it wouldn’t accept Northern Ireland having a different deal to the rest of the UK.

A breakthrough came following a tense week of negotiations as DUP leader Arlene Foster engaged in all-night talks with the UK and EU before British Prime Minister Theresa May headed for Brussels to meet EU chiefs to formally agree on the arrangement.

Foster told Sky News this morning that, following her talks with May, “there is no red line down the Irish Sea and clear confirmation that the entirety of the UK is leaving the European Union, the single market and the customs union”.

However, Foster was also firm in outlining that the DUP believe more work still needs to be done to improve the paper.

She said more focus is needed on the areas of potential future alignment with Ireland and how that could be achieved without staying in the single market and customs union.

“We do however welcome the assurance given by the Prime Minister and Brexit Secretary in Parliament that any alignment will be done on a UK wide basis, ensuring that there would be no barriers to trade between Northern Ireland and our most important market in the rest of the UK,” Foster said in a statement.
https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/939045797353504769

Foster raised concerns that the paper could have “pre-judged” the outcome of the ongoing debate within the UK in relation to the nature of any regulatory alignment with the EU that may be required post-Brexit.

“We cautioned the Prime Minister about proceeding with this agreement in its present form given the issues which still need to be resolved and the views expressed to be by many of her own party colleagues,” Foster said.

“However, it was ultimately a matter for the Prime Minister to decided how she chose to proceed.

We will play a full part with the government in the second stage of the negotiations on a comprehensive trade deal. Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed and how we vote on the final deal will depend on its contents.
Along with like-minded colleagues across the House of Commons, we will ensure that there is no backsliding on the promises made about the integrity of the Union. We will also work to ensure that the United Kingdom as a whole exits the European Union in a way that is of the greatest benefit to our prosperity and freedom.

Nigel Dodds, deputy leader of the DUP, called it a positive day for the Union.

“Fundamentals in all of this… Northern Ireland will not be separated in anyway from the rest of the UK after Brexit. Unfettered across the UK market. No borders in the Irish Sea. Positive day for the Union. Now to the next stage and getting the best UK/EU trade deal,” Dodds said on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/NigelDoddsDUP/status/939053486532161536

It seems that there are contrasting interpretations of today’s deal coming from Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.

In her statement this morning, Foster said that “as a consequence” of the engagement between the government and the DUP, the new text now provides clear commitments to a number of issues.

One of the issues being “there will be no so-called ‘special status’ for Northern Ireland as demanded by Sinn Féin”.

However, in a speech this morning Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said there will be “a special relationship” for Northern Ireland to ensure no barriers to trade in the absence of a trade agreement.

Despite causing a major hiccup to negotiations earlier this week, Foster said today that the DUP’s “guiding principle” throughout the crunch talks has been to “act in the national interest to ensure the constitutional and economic integrity of the United Kingdom is not compromised as we leave the European Union”.

“The Democratic Unionist Party has always been clear that the Union that matters most to Northern Ireland is that of the Union of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.”

Read: Liveblog: Varadkar hails ‘cast iron’ deal as agreement made for no hard border after Brexit

More: This is what the Brexit deal means for Ireland and Northern Ireland

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    Mute Play Against Par
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:29 AM

    We should switch it to HAMMER TIME

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    Mute Sinead Fox
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:37 AM

    But what about Chiko time?

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    Mute Shane Walsh
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:58 AM

    But what about Sexy time?

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    Mute Antonov Merinov
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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:03 AM

    I am all for it.
    But will the UK follow?
    If not it will leave the UK in the middle with a different time. Not very practical.

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    Mute Robbie Callaghan
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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:15 AM

    What about peanut butter jelly time!

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    Mute Truth Patrol
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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:39 AM

    You can’t go wrong with Miller time :)

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    Mute Tony Hartigan
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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:42 AM

    Jeeèeeez what about West Cork Time ?.

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    Mute Jane Travers
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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:47 AM

    Will we drop Daylight Savings Time? I’m fecking sick of moving clocks forwards and back.

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    Mute Mary Cullinane
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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:52 AM

    Antonov that is the UKs problem to deal with.

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    Mute Gary Rowe
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    Jul 26th 2014, 12:43 PM

    We don’t have ‘Summer’ time, in the summer we are on Irish Standard Time. It’s during the winter that we change to GMT!

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    Mute Emily Elephant
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    Jul 26th 2014, 1:23 PM

    That’s right. Ireland is on Central European Time, except when Central Europe isn’t.

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    Mute Paul Maguire
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    Jul 26th 2014, 2:15 PM

    What about all the time

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    Mute Liz (10) (^_^)
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    Jul 26th 2014, 2:47 PM

    Am with you there Jane.

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    Mute Irving Chubbie
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    Jul 26th 2014, 4:48 PM

    We should also switch to metres and centimetres like what they have in Europe. The Irish would all be taller then.

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    Mute John B. Reid
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    Jul 26th 2014, 4:48 PM

    The UK is an entirely different country, let them do their own thing. Ireland must do what is best for the health of its own people.

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    Mute John B. Reid
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    Jul 26th 2014, 4:50 PM

    @John B. Reid My comment above was in reply to Antonov Merinov.

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    Mute Steve Tracey
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    Jul 26th 2014, 4:50 PM

    The UK tried this some years ago but reverted to the present system. Cant remember the exact reason but I seem to recall something about it was more awkward up in Scotland

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    Mute Steve Tracey
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    Jul 26th 2014, 4:51 PM

    Steve
    The above comment was an answer to Antonov

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    Mute John Galt
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    Jul 26th 2014, 6:12 PM

    OH FFS!!! not this stupidity again!!!!!!
    This was already TRIED back in the 1970s and it didnt work very well,as I remember going to primary school in the pitch black Winter nights of 08:30.It didnt get light till about 10 AM,and most if not everyone was out of whack completely for the months that they tried it.
    But dont take my word for it ,go and look up what happened in Portugal for three years that this was tried.Production fell off,school attendance was manky,more accidents due to people falling asleep etc.But of course NO we Irish will be different and it will be a success no matter if there is utter carnage out there,we MUST be Europeanised no matter what.

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    Mute Dennis Collins
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    Jul 26th 2014, 7:13 PM

    It didn’t get bright until 10am?? What mysterious part of Ireland are you in where it gets bright at 9am now?

    How can we be “Europeanised” considering the fact we are European?

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    Mute SeanieRyan
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    Jul 26th 2014, 7:54 PM

    Dark in the winter mornings till 9,9-30 just so that some civil servant or politician can butter up to Brussels for a plush job in years to come.

    How many corpses will that pile up in rush hour traffic.

    Absolutely crazy and foolish idea.

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    Mute David O'Reilly
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    Jul 26th 2014, 8:01 PM

    Well I work for a global company and focus on the UK market. Changing it would mean I would have to start and finish work at different times, affecting times bringing and collecting my son from school etc so it would affect some of us here too.

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    Mute SeanieRyan
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    Jul 26th 2014, 8:07 PM

    This makes us more out of whack with America, a continent that for all its faults is still growing strongly and returning to rude health.

    Europe is heading for long term decline, politically and economically. On top of that it puts us out of whack with our main trading partner and a 1/4 of the country in the North, where our internal economic trade is growing rapidly.

    The civil servant who proposed this gets to have something on his CV when he decide to double his salary and work in Brussels, mission achieved and let the rest of us get on with it.

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    Mute Audrey Byrne
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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:47 PM

    And we will cross a “time zone” each time we travel up north.. Madness

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    Mute John Galt
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    Jul 27th 2014, 2:10 AM

    Its what happened Dennis Collins as we were in fact two hours ahead on CST at the time,so IOW when it was say 10 oclock here it was actually 8 oclock in reality and due to our Northerly latitude and angle of the Sun at that time of year etc,it is still naturally dark no matter what the idiots in Brussells and Dublin would wish it to be otherwise.
    As for being Europeans,all this ridicilous crap that is forced upon us just Europeanises us more and doesnt give a fig for our location,traditions or life outlook.

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    Mute Keith Lee Cahill
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    Jul 27th 2014, 9:59 AM

    The UK is probably going to leave Europe anyway, so it won’t make that much difference…..

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    Mute Peter O'Connor
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    Jul 27th 2014, 11:39 AM

    Anyone who has ever been North of Dundalk/Sligo in winter will confirm that it’s still dark at 8:30 in the morning. This nonsense doesn’t even consider the hassle that would be caused along the border – more Dublin-centric rubbish.
    Any it’s difficult enough to get kids to bed in summer as it is – what then when it’s still bright after 12midnight??

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    Mute Mary Kavanagh
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    Jul 27th 2014, 6:57 PM

    Parts of Europe seem to manage quite well with neighbouring countries being in a different time zone. That said, let’s leave it at it is I think.

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    Mute Mary Kavanagh
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    Jul 27th 2014, 7:00 PM

    In the winter there would be hardly any daylight in northern Scotland because of their latitude.

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    Mute Glen
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:28 AM

    How could jumping ahead an hour boost tourism and even more oddly how can it help lower crime rates.

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    Mute Dave Manning
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:33 AM

    I’m guessing the tourism part could be to do with day trippers from Europe, you wouldn’t automatically lose that extra hour and the same could be said going the other way… Head to Spain for a day and you only lose the flight time rather than flight time + 1… I could be completely wrong on that but that’s my assumption

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    Mute Richard McCarthy
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:38 AM

    Makes sense, one hour extra daylight at night wont solve all our problems but it would be a good start.

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    Mute Andrew
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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:09 AM

    Was tried some years ago. We had to go with UK as always.

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    Mute Dave Manning
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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:16 AM

    @Sean I get your logic but when people tend to go on day trips the majority take into account the time they get to spend in the other country, not the time they get back to their own at in my experience anyway..

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    Mute Mr Phil Officer
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    Jul 26th 2014, 1:07 PM

    It doesn’t matter what time it is, we are still going to have our designated amount of daylight.

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    Mute None
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    Jul 26th 2014, 1:56 PM

    Business people day trip.

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    Mute John Galt
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    Jul 26th 2014, 6:14 PM

    We are better off going with the UK on this one,politics cant control nature.Whats next? Will we all be driving on the right side of the road next?as it might be of benefit to tourism?

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    Mute Conor Conneally
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:32 AM

    It would only work if the UK and Northern Ireland switched too. Otherwise places like Fermanagh and Monaghan would be in different time zones. Id say it’d be a nightmare trying to schedule Ulster provincial games in Clones!

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    Mute Glen
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:34 AM

    True but
    One does not go out of ones way to suit others !

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    Mute Sinead Fox
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:39 AM

    Like the mainland Europeans….because we drive over and back to them all the time like!?

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    Mute Ruairi Colton
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:53 AM

    Only monaghan is in the republic….

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    Mute Brian Leddin
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:58 AM

    She’s saying that Monaghan and Fermanagh would be in different time zones to each other. Keep your hat on.

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    Mute Banga Ncube
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    Jul 26th 2014, 1:02 PM

    ‘UK and Northern Ireland’ I think you mean GB and NI.

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    Mute cníchi
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    Jul 26th 2014, 1:28 PM

    Exactly.fecking nightmare if you live on the border and go to school on the other side!

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    Mute SeanieRyan
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    Jul 26th 2014, 7:57 PM

    We’d be bending over to suit Germany and France, at our own expense and safety.

    I know that that is what the EU has become all about for most Europeans but lets do it ourselves.

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    Mute John Byrne
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:29 AM

    ‘No I don’t like change’ is a bit of a general answer

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    Mute Glen
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:31 AM

    No I don’t see the point
    Would of been a better option

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    Mute Shane Kearney
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    Jul 26th 2014, 5:30 PM

    That would be an ecumenical matter

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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:30 AM

    ‘Lower crime rates’ because the dark really puts off criminals…

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    Mute Mary Fitzsimons
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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:04 AM

    it would be fine in summer but in winter that would mean no daylight until 9.30 am!

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    Mute Dennis Collins
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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:54 AM

    It’s much better to have the dark in the morning than in the evening anyway. We’re all zombified and on the way to work in the morning – and quite franky are too dozy to give a crap what colour the sky is. In the evening, at least we might have the chance to do something we enjoy while it’s bright – walk, run, shop, climb trees, cycling, whatever gets people’s boats floating.

    I’d choose going to work in the dark over coming home in the dark any day.

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    Mute John Galt
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    Jul 26th 2014, 6:17 PM

    You just destroyed your own arguement.We are too dozy or zombified to give a crap about anything really.So translate that into pitch blackness at half eight in the morning and watch the traffic accidents mount up.
    If it aint broke dont fix it.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:53 AM

    Talk about a biased poll – why is the “no” option followed by “I don’t like change”? It’s perfectly possible to be happy with change in general, but disagree with this proposal.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 4:01 PM

    Alot of articles on here get edited after they have being published (usually because of spelling mistakes) with no Last Edited time-stamp, they also change poll options or add new options after people have voted. silly polls. So if you did vote “I Don’t like change”… this is now counted as “I’m not sure”.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:32 AM

    No. I’ve all the time-zones learned off and this would only confuse me. You’re essentially forcing me to do math. This is form of numerical fascism, and I for one will not stand for it. I say we rise up against this European Imperialism, and declare war on Europe.

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    Mute Neal Ireland Hello
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:41 AM

    Adding 1 to everything isn’t exactly the most challengin maths.

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    Mute Super Ted
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    Jul 26th 2014, 12:44 PM

    Well said sean, maths fries the brain. Say no to maths!

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    Jul 26th 2014, 1:31 PM

    :D

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    Jul 26th 2014, 2:49 PM

    Says Neal the maths genius.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 4:27 PM

    Well said Sean! Not to mention we’d be operating on a different time to our largest trading partner, the UK. Seems silly to change it just so we don’t loose an hour while on holidays in Spain.

    This is the same line we were spun regarding the Euro. “When you go to Spain you can use the same money you use at home. No more queuing in the bank.” — Wow..where do we sign up?

    The consequence was, in under one decade, Ireland was laden with 42% of the entire EU debt burden.

    I seriously wonder what the consequences of changing to CET would have on businesses trading with the UK.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 5:01 PM

    Colin I’ll have you know I can still rattle off my 12x tables.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:18 AM

    I like change, but I don’t like stupid changes. Ireland is way too far west to be on CET, even Spain is a bit too Western to be on CET.

    I am from Portugal and in the early 90′s the government had the same bright idea, except they went ahead and actually implemented it for a year. It was bloody awful, I remember waking up and going to school when it was still dark, in the depths of winter it would be dark until nearly 9 am, it was insane! In Ireland it would probably be even worse.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:38 AM

    Der takin r time now aswell all of r money

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    Mute nicola lawless
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:46 AM

    Capitaine – they stole your vowels too!! Dirty b@#tards

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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:40 AM

    Capitaine ; go away for an hour and come back to us !

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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:50 AM

    Half of this country depends on England on a hour to hour based ,it would be lunacy to do it without England

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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:50 AM

    Makes absolutely no sense to me to change our time zone. Our time zone is based on our location, we’re at zulu time, sin é.
    Also certainly makes no sense to change independent of the UK, we have a land border with them not with mainland Europe.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:05 AM

    It works ok with Portugal and Spain.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 12:43 PM

    They should just scrap putting the hour back in winter, That would be fine. Longer evenings > Brighter mornings

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    Jul 26th 2014, 6:19 PM

    No it didnt work ok with Spain and Portugal.Do some research on it.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:32 AM

    No way Ted , I’m old enough as it is ….

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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:41 AM

    ?????. How does moving a clock forward reduce crime. Do criminals wake up realize they have slept in and decide that crime doesn’t pay and give it all up and become law abiding model citizens.
    Just think, all those man hours and expense fighting crime and the answer was so obvious the whole time.
    What next for super central time. End world hunger stop all wars

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    Mute Peter McKevitt
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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:02 AM

    Any chance of following europe`s pub opening hours instead?

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    Jul 26th 2014, 4:49 PM

    Good plan – it’s about time we drank more alcohol in Ireland and make those A&E staff earn their wages

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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:39 AM

    This was tried here before, for a year in the late sixties, and didn’t work , and was dropped. We never learn from the lessons of the past. The mornings are dark enough in Winter without adding another hour of gloom, and the further west you go the darker it is , so it might suit Dublin and the East coast slightly.

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    Mute Chief
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:44 AM

    The further west you go the brighter it is you mean?

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    Mute Johnny Downes
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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:05 AM

    Darker in the morning by comparison with more Easterly locations.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 1:06 PM

    My mistake johnny, I was thinking evening time. Sorry

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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:49 AM

    Impractical unless the UK does and the UK never will.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:03 AM

    England wants to do it. But Scotland dont want it. They will be in darkness till 10am in winter.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:06 AM

    In the current UK political climate any politician proposing this might just as well hand Ukip his seat.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:43 AM

    UK will never do it. They are extremely proud of the GMT line running through their capital city.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 12:16 PM

    London is the capital of the world.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 5:05 PM

    The UK held on to their precious pound too. We can sit back and not do anything unless Britain wants to do it first, or we can have a mind of our own. Christ, I sound like a Shinner now, don’t I.

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    Jul 27th 2014, 2:23 AM

    Since when is Greenwich the capital of the UK?? There is a simple fact that the UK cant and wont change time zones,and that is the GMT line is the anchor point for the World time zones. Most of our technological world that requires precision timing is based on atomic clocks which are based on the GMT time zone,that is everything from geo stationary communication satellites to the provision of exact time on your computor screen,etc,etc.So say you want to shift this GMT time zone to Europe,that means reprogramming the global atomic clocks,no mean feat in itself,then getting all the worlds countries to agree to this as well,which might be fun with Russia and the Donetsk republic as they are already on Moscow time,doing this might push them further into the very shorter days they have in Winter there.Then we have to move all the satellites,so expect the Net to be inoperative for a few weeks.All in all a daft idea and one the British are sensibly not going to do.

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    Mute Trish Prendiville
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:39 AM

    What about people affected by SAD, or other forms of depression; the government is going to pay for light therapy, is it? The government think of financial benefit first, as usual. They never think of the ‘cost’ to the citizens of this country.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:46 AM

    I don’t believe the proposals involve extinguishing the sun for an hour each day…. But if this is the case I’m fully behind this argument!

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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:42 AM

    Just during the winter though dave ; that way the winters would be shorter !

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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:29 AM

    so does that mean they would stay forward and not go back in winter or go forward another hour

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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:47 AM

    Thefunnyman, it actually means moving to GMT+1 as the norm and GMT+2 in Summer. Longer evenings in Summer. Largely irrelevant in Winter except that in the more northern areas of Ireland I would not be dawn until nearly 10am! As for all the alleged savings they will not stand scrutiny in my view. There is no empirical research behind them and we would be on a different time zone to NI and GB who are still our main trading partners. It would also create a greater time gap between is and the USA which is not a good for business that trade with the USA.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:14 AM

    Good man John thanks for that.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:25 AM

    Yeah what about ni/gb.. So all the business fliers that go between irl and gb every day will have a nightmare.. Unless gb are doing the same it is nuts..

    Not to mention it would be getting dark after 11 in the height of the summer… And them dark cold long mornings in winter will only be worse..

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    Mute Repeating history
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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:50 AM

    I agree as the UK is our main trading partner (and we are further west than them) it would be irresponsible to change without them also changing.

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    Mute Gary Rowe
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    Jul 26th 2014, 12:51 PM

    Ireland is already at GMT+1 as our standard time … which we use in the Summer. During winter we shift ‘backwards’ an hour to be on Winter time, which matches with GMT.

    We’re probably unique as a country to have such a weird system!!!

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    Mute Stephen Earle
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:41 AM

    It will fade the curtains

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    Mute ƒR()§†H@X
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:33 AM

    I don’t understand. Is it keep having the same time as now (summer time) and instead of going back an hour in winter we go forward an hour again?

    Was the whole reason for summer time and winter time is to have brighter mornings so it would be safer for kids going to school and farmers. It would be still dark at 9am and further north even later. Heard it would be 10am in Scotland.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:41 AM

    I never understood why people say that summer time is for farmers. Why would it matter for self-employed people anyway, it isn’t like the cows will notice if the clocks read 8 instead of 7.

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    Mute Peter Branigan
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:55 AM

    You’re obviously not a farmer anyway. Cows are famous for their innate ability not only to read time, but to sense it.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 6:21 PM

    Seeing that they need to b e milked every 10 to 12 hours.They are pretty good time keepers.

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    Mute Toby_Parker
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:47 AM

    Why is it that if the EU shout ‘Jump!’ the Irish always ask ‘how high?’.

    Have we all really become sheep?

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    Mute John R
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:53 AM

    Toby this has nothing to do with the EU. In fact if want to adopt this system it will mean changing an EU directive which was created to try to put some sanity on time zones across the EU. We may not be able to change that Directive. This scrutiny arises because of a private members bill tabled by Deputy Tommy Broughan which sought to change our time. The Dept of Justice opposed the Bill but agrees that it’s basis premises should be examined in the Justice Committee. The UK was looking at similar legislation but the Govt there deliberately ran down the clock and it fell. Interesting concept but it has too many practical and political downsides.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:59 AM

    I don’t know John. I think we are becoming a nation of ‘yes men’.

    Anything that the Irish Political System puts before the Irish People should always be severely scrutinised because they are not acting in our best interest.

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    Mute gerbreen
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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:30 AM

    I wonder whose pocket is Tommy in. Have our overpaid and overpensioned politicos not got more important things on their minds?

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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:14 AM

    Portugal or the Canary Islands have GMT also, as they are in the same geographical time zone as us, and they are not trying to Europeanise time. We don’t have to buy in to this Eurocrawler mentality completely like kissass Enda.

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    Mute IrishGravyTrain
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:41 AM

    Most important question for most irish people would be what time would coronation street be on after the change?

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    Mute TOP CAT
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:30 AM

    Time waits for no man.
    The older one gets the faster it goes. …

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    Mute Repeating history
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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:53 AM

    my wife operates on a different time zone anyway

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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:28 AM

    Hell to the yes

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    Mute Trish Prendiville
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:48 AM

    Couldn’t just work 8-5, instead of 9-6, no??

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    Mute John R
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:56 AM

    Now Trish that is a perfectly sensible proposal and would work but please stop being logical and trying to resolve issues in a practical way when we can all enjoy a massive a complex debate to do what you want in a much more complicated fashion.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:26 AM

    Great. People would have to put their kids into childcare before school because they wouldn’t be able to drop them. When the kids get home from school they would have very little time to play outside. Thus increasing the obesity rates.

    Ba.. Ba.. Ba…

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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:47 AM

    Lily, working 8-5, or moving the clock forward increases the time in the evening for the children to play outside thus reducing obesity – if all are working 8-5, then the schools will be open earlier so no issues with child care! Now trying to get the teachers to change practices..

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    Jul 26th 2014, 1:41 PM

    Sorry about that John, I’m a bit practical you know…..”common fault in this particular model”, as they’d say ;-) I worked in a US company, based in Cork. This company, worked primarily with European consultants & companies, so we worked 8-5. No one had issues with childcare, even though school begins at 9am. It all worked quite well actually!?

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    Mute Jackthe Stroller
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    Jul 26th 2014, 1:49 PM

    Its the Willy season again,this idea comes up every year, Its just talked about, nothing is ever done,fact

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    Mute Eamonn Moloney
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    Jul 26th 2014, 2:10 PM

    Yes it could work but we should overhaul the education system anyway. several studies clearly state that the optimum time to start learning is from 10am to 11am so children should really do PE before that time. This could be a great way to getting our kids more active.

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    Mute Thomas Maher
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    Jul 26th 2014, 2:21 PM

    Mmmmm the clocks would be going forward. The evening would be longer. So the kids would have more time to play outside.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 3:34 PM

    You didnt think before you typed did you lily?

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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:02 AM

    The options given were inadequate. There should also be: Get a life!
    Whoever is on that committee should be tarred and feathered.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 1:07 PM

    Didn’t know criminals in Ireland worked of Central European time

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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:30 AM

    Hello , a drop in crime, so we dont need the garda, let the clocks deal with the burglars,

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    Mute Ruairi Colton
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:55 AM

    Wouldnt be light in the west during the winter until 9 or 10 oclock.

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    Mute Martin Gosling
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    Jul 26th 2014, 12:03 PM

    What a brilliant idea, now people living near the border will not only have to change currency and speed limit but also time zones.

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    Mute Ritchie Cooney
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    Jul 26th 2014, 1:55 PM

    Plus, it’s taken 6 years for me Ma to figure out the Australian time difference. For Jaysus sake leave well enough alone!

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    Mute Rachel Mc Veigh
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    Jul 26th 2014, 12:01 PM

    It makes no sense for 2 reasons:

    1. I don’t see the benefit, we’re only an hour behind, so 8 don’t see trade improving. I need to speak with people in Berlin regularly as part of my job & it’s never been an issue.

    2. If the UK didn’t switch then NI would be an hour behind, which would be really weird. Putting you’re phone forward an hour just because you’ve gone across a boarder

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    Mute Sean Baylon
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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:53 AM

    Let me guess, even though we’ll be moving a clock and time that only we as humans give definitions to. I bet the government and their consultants will say this is going to cost the government (not us because it’s never the people that pay for it) €50 million

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    Jul 26th 2014, 12:13 PM

    How could it drop crime rates?????

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    Mute Alan Cunningham
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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:52 AM

    A detailed list of the pros and cons would have been nice with this poll.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 1:32 PM

    Why is the no vote associated with people who don’t like change? It’s nothing to do with that. It’s to do with important things like, “do I want my child walking to school in the pitch dark in winter”? If the clocks change to match main Europe, our children will be in class while it’s still dark!
    The Spanish and Portuguese have been thinking of changing their clocks to match ours as they are equally western as us in Europe. They have a more legitimate argument than us.
    IMO this is as equally rediculous as the debate of culling of seagulls in a coastal city without even thinking of more efficient waste management…

    Hrumff

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    Mute Christopher Millar
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    Jul 26th 2014, 12:06 PM

    So it would be different time in Northern Ireland

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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:33 AM

    FFS yer man with the hands again….

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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:31 AM

    It means that there would be an extra hour if daylight after work. Thats great I really don’t care about mornings as I’m stuck in an office.

    However it would make travelling to school more dangerous for kids as its darker

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    Jul 26th 2014, 5:09 PM

    But the kids are all ferried to school in jeeps these days.

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    Mute Michael Cooks Kirk
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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:47 AM

    They on about tourism they had a Garth brooks concert worth millions and tourism and they didn’t want it and now they want to move the clock forward to help tourism what a crowd of wanks

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    Mute D H
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    Jul 26th 2014, 1:19 PM

    The usa has 3 time zones in 1 country and they manage just fine . We manage just fine now so it makes no sense to change it

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    Jul 26th 2014, 1:47 PM

    Conversely, China has one for the entire country.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 4:17 PM

    Seven, actually. Atlantic, Eastern, Central, Mountain, Pacific, Alaska and Hawaiian. Though Atlantic (Puerto Rico), Alaska and Hawaiian are not for the contiguous 48 states.

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    Jul 27th 2014, 12:33 AM

    USA has 4 time zones in the continental 48 states, plus additional ones for Alaska and Hawaii

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    Jul 26th 2014, 1:50 PM

    I would only be happy to change if the UK moved as well. I think it makes more sense for for the UK & ROI to be in the one time zone. I don’t see any great be benefit in having European time in Dublin and UK time in Belfast.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 2:46 PM

    bootlicking is the reason id imagine. The people who wont give us a write down of our debt want us to move further in line, if thats possible. Nevermind the fact that we are NOT in central europe, we are in northwestern europe. and the time zone we are in is georaphically correct, we must not ‘stay in the stone age’.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:24 AM

    It’d be an alright idea. Whatever about summer time, where the days are reasonably long anyway, the dark winter evenings wouldn’t appear so dark, and that wouldn’t be a bad thing.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 1:14 PM

    can someone explain how this pointless excersise will result in a drop in crime?

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    Jul 26th 2014, 1:35 PM

    Brighter evenings. Less robberies happen in the morning and also when its bright.*

    *source: I just made it up, but I imagine it to be true

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    Mute Michael Connors
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    Jul 26th 2014, 12:30 PM

    We might want to coordinate this with other countries:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1333760/Portugal-warns-Britain-We-switched-Berlin-Time-catastrophe.html
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-24294157

    As Alan Shatter said a couple of years ago, if you want an extra hour in the evening; get up earlier.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 1:15 PM

    You put forward the points favouring change and then polled. This lead to an increased yes vote. Surely a counter argument should have been included in the main article for balance?

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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:49 AM

    Sunrise at 4am? No thank you…

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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:33 AM

    Indeed and that is sun rise. Sky is bright for an hour before that.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 12:18 PM

    No, it’d be sunrise an hour LATER, not earlier!!!

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    Mute Steve M
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    Jul 26th 2014, 2:50 PM

    Company I work for does a lot of business with the US as do many others….no thanks. We are ok as we are.

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    Mute Juan Venegas
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    Jul 26th 2014, 2:16 PM

    The GMT is there fora reason, do you really want to go against nature and the laws of physics? The sun would rise earlier and set earlier for one hour. which means in Summer, it cold be 3pm and the sun is out, and it could be 10 in July and the sun is gone.

    - Our biggest trading partner is the UK and they have the same time zone as us, we belong geographically to the GMT+0 time zone and we are one of the few countries which actually have he privilege of having supper at 6pm and the sun will actually be at 6pm. Look at the map and see for yourself.

    - Boost tourism by changing the time zone to Central Europe? The following European countries have Central European times and had LESS tourist visitors than Ireland last year

    Belgium
    Switzerland
    Denmark
    Portugal (have same time as Ireland at present)
    Sweden
    Norway
    Finland
    Andorra
    Slovakia
    Latvia
    Lithuania
    Malta
    Luxembourg
    Monaco

    Ireland was ranked 33rd as the most visited country last year

    I rest my case

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    Jul 26th 2014, 2:20 PM

    Change it to Australian time zone, sure most of the Irish are there!

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    Jul 26th 2014, 1:14 PM

    We’re too far to the west of Greenwich for this to work. If anything we should be at gmt-1, but that would put us too far out of sync with Europe

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    Jul 27th 2014, 12:14 AM

    Yeah, I work mostly with the US. Being another hour closer to the US would be good, but – 2 from CET would be a bit too much. I had a week of conference calls with a Finnish company giving them some training and knowledge transfer (they were 2 hours ahead of Ireland). They wanted to start every morning at 9 am Finnish time (fair enough), which was 7am here unfortunately. My brain doesn’t function that early. It was a tough week :-)

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    Jul 26th 2014, 5:56 PM

    And why don’t we switch to driving on the right, while we’re changing to Central European time?

    Surely the clue is in the name?
    We’re not in Central Europe.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 12:28 PM

    if herr merkel tells enda to do it it will be done.so why bother with public submissions that end up in the bin…………

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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:31 AM

    YES

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    Jul 26th 2014, 3:41 PM

    So you will be able to cross the border
    To do your shopping in Nurey and be back before you left .

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    Jul 26th 2014, 3:04 PM

    How about all businesses start their day one hour earlier.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 4:52 PM

    I’m sick of enduring sixteen hours of darkness a day, and only (at most) eight hours of light, during the autumn and winter months in Ireland. This imbalance of too many hours of darkness, due to our current time zone, in the autumn and winter (and part of Spring), also results in us having too many hours of light during the summer months and not sufficient hours of darkness (not getting dark until after 10pm and then getting bright again at 4am, sometimes even earlier).

    We should change time zones in order to allow for a more balanced distribution of light and darkness in Ireland throughout the year, as they have on the continent.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 5:35 PM

    You’d need to move Ireland southwards to do that!

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    Jul 27th 2014, 1:03 AM

    I understand what you mean; and hoping for an even, continental-esque balance between light and darkness (by way of adopting the Central European Time Zone) is more of a hope than an expectation on my part. But if changing the time zones could go some way toward creating (even by a little bit) a more balanced number of hours of light and darkness in the day throughout the whole year, I would support it.

    But I am not a meteorologist or whatever the relevant science is in the area of time zones, so my hope of creating a better balance in the day throughout the whole year by switching time zones could be completely misplaced! However, I would embrace the proposed three-year trial period to see if it would work out.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 2:07 PM

    All of our lives would be shortened be an hour. Say 5 million of us … Thats 570 man-years. Economically that would be quite expensive, not to mention the loss of life.

    Whatever …

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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:35 PM

    I can’t believe people are actually going with this hahaha it’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 10:55 AM

    Would love if Ireland and UK did it, would make it easier for me watching sport from Australia!

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    Jul 26th 2014, 12:28 PM

    But then the border regions would be screwed. SMASH THAT BORDER

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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:25 AM

    Would mean tons of IT investment to move all business systems to CET.

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    Mute damian
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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:57 PM

    No it wouldn’t…

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    Mute Paul McNevin
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    Jul 26th 2014, 12:12 PM

    No, we should remain the the stone age.

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    Mute Billy Flynn
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    Jul 26th 2014, 12:17 PM

    Yes!! Change it! I like the long evenings but the sun rises too early here in summer and wakes me up, delay it by one hour!!

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    Jul 26th 2014, 12:15 PM

    The Yes option is for the proactive and the No option is for the conservative – that’s refreshing from the Journal!

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    Mute Jack Bowden
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    Jul 26th 2014, 3:37 PM

    (Roughly) When we have the equinox twice a year the sun is meant to rise at 6am and set at 6pm.
    Not rise at 8:20am on September 23rd.

    Just keep on moving forward are clocks every few years to give us more hours of daylight and we’ll have the same timezone as China.

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    Mute John Stewart
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    Jul 26th 2014, 3:06 PM

    Only shifting the goalposts with this move, time for time to go metric

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    Mute Dermot Ryan
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    Jul 26th 2014, 11:43 AM

    Time is money !
    Cash is King !
    Therefore Time is King ; don’t mess with Eire’s King Enda ..you’re only a Taoiseach don’t forget !

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    Mute Ritchie Cooney
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    Jul 26th 2014, 1:46 PM

    It’d be still bright at midnight in June!

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    Mute Frainc Ó Broin
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    Jul 27th 2014, 7:28 AM

    pop over the border for that elusive final pint

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    Mute Solemn Colm
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    Jul 26th 2014, 12:36 PM

    I’d like us to go an hour the other way. We would be better prepared for life.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 12:21 PM

    Don’t think it really matters, but saying that it can be fun for kids working out the time difference

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    Mute art cassidy
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    Jul 27th 2014, 7:30 AM

    Increase in child road deaths in morning hours means this will never be a winner. Just check out other countries who tried it including UK.

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    Mute Bill
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    Jul 26th 2014, 4:07 PM

    Get it done already. The north is not part of this country so they remain like always irrelevant

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    Jul 26th 2014, 3:24 PM

    Switch time zones time to think about that me thinks. Times up

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    Mute Bernie Cunningham Cashman
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    Jul 26th 2014, 8:43 PM

    Portugal is on the same time as Ireland

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    Mute Peter O'Connor
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    Jul 27th 2014, 11:47 AM

    FAR more logical is to change the time back to ‘Summer-time’ in March – 6 weeks after the winter-solstice. (just as the clocks ‘falls back’ 6 weeks before. The sun-rise times are then exactly the same. If it’s safe in Autumn then it’s safe in Spring.
    It’s stupid to have to await April to change the clock forward. I’d vote to revert the time on 1st March – or even 17th March – THERE’s a real reason to celebrate.

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    Mute Amy Wallis
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    Jul 27th 2014, 1:03 PM

    I see absolutely no point. What difference would one hour really honestly make to trade within Central Europe? And if the UK doesn’t change too, then it just becomes idiotic and we look stupid.

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    Jul 26th 2014, 9:43 PM

    Resistance! E/I

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    Jul 27th 2014, 1:09 AM

    Bookies be aware!! If we are an hour ahead of the UK we will have all Premier League results b4 the games are over!!!! Haha not to mention the soaps, sitting down for Monday night rituals of Familes soap addictions only to discover you are too early for Corrie! Horror! Think of the confusion caused when Irish people return from Malaga after losing an hour, our 2hour flight was only an hour really, isn’t that mad Mary. WTF if Paddy leaves T1 at 9.00 on a 20 min flight to Liverpool and arrives there at 8.20!! He’ll booking an earlier flight the following Friday with the Euromillions results thinking he has craked it.

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    Mute Pádraig McCann
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    Jul 26th 2014, 3:50 PM

    Keep us on Summer Standard Time

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