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Minister to take no further action after claims Direct Provision residents were 'denied Christmas celebrations'

A Justice Department spokesperson said that it had received the report from centre.

THE JUSTICE MINISTER is to take no further action in relation to reports that a group of asylum seekers living in a Direct Provision centre were denied a Christmas celebration.

The Limerick Leader reported last week that residents at the Knockalisheen Accommodation Centre on the outskirts of Limerick believed they had been denied the celebrations on Christmas Day.

The residents said that they had been planning a gathering within the communal space at the centre, which was open to all residents, but that after they raised money to fund food, non-alcoholic drinks and goodie bags, they were not able to avail of the space on Christmas evening.

On the back of the dispute, Justice Minister Charlie Flanagan asked for a report from the management of the centre on the issue.

A Justice Department spokesperson said that it had received the report from centre.

The centre said that it had held a programme of events to celebrate Christmas there.

In relation to Christmas night, the centre said that the communal space was always open and available to residents.

The centre said it was informed on Christmas night that a children’s party would take place and that it did take place.

“No further action is proposed by the Minister at this time,” a Justice Department spokesperson said.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 9:33 PM

    I’d like to know what the report said , and the reason why there will be no further action .

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    Jan 5th 2018, 9:57 PM

    @Ken Hayden: Wow , comments censored already .

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    Jan 5th 2018, 9:58 PM

    @Ken Hayden: me to

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    Jan 5th 2018, 9:59 PM

    @Ken Hayden:
    Seems sensible to me that we move on.
    What further action would you like to see?

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    Jan 5th 2018, 9:59 PM

    @Ken Hayden:
    Only rubbish comments.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:01 PM

    @Ken Hayden: now I am shocked..are we not allowed to say that asylum seekers were caught out lying ?

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:02 PM

    @Donal Hanley: they were not rubbish comments at all . The claims they made were false.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:06 PM

    @Siobhán Ni Mhurchú: We live in strange times , that’s for sure .
    I would honestly like to know the reason ” no further action is proposed “. I wonder if any journalist has a way of finding out ?

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:08 PM

    @Donal Hanley: we would love to tell you ,but

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:11 PM

    @Donal Hanley: Go back to sleep people, there’s nothing to see, just carry on, all is well, no need to ever ask questions.

    When I was a kid I always thought (through brainwashing/lack of information) that if a dystopia were ever to be ushered in it would be by “Nazis” or the “far-right”. Imagine my astonishment as & adult when I saw it was the left ushering in 1984.

    The lefts Utopia is everyone else’s Dystopia!

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:12 PM

    @Siobhán Ni Mhurchú: It makes sense to me to ask questions . Perhaps some resident made a flippant remark , and it was jumped on by someone with an agenda , or conversely , someone lied to a journalist ( with an agenda ) and said journalist didn’t do their job properly .

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:15 PM

    @Ken Hayden: I agree, this is not hie these issues should be resolved, if you can even call it that

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:22 PM

    @Ken Hayden: from the previous article the residents claimed that they weren’t allowed to have their Christmas celebration..

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:24 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: That’s rich coming from such a ardent supporter of censorship…

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:26 PM

    @Ken Hayden: Wow, racist comments being deleted, what a shock. Maybe familiarise yourself with the comments policy here and stop acting like such a whiney triggered Snowflake every day.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:26 PM

    @Aindreas Macliam: I have no idea what you’re talking about Wilson. But since you’re “new” I suggest you check out the terms of service. This is a private enterprise.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:32 PM

    @The Rev Ndabaningi Sithole: Ha ha! That’s a good one! You’ve already been reported and banned numerous times for racist comments and now have a racist profile picture.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:39 PM

    @Angela O’Riordan: “whiney snow flake”, that sounds like a disparaging comment directed @ another user. Seems to me like that violates T&Cs, but don’t worry we won’t rat you out (after all we invented that saying, imitation is the highest form flattery ; )

    Anyway, article doesn’t mention anything about race…so how could be racist?

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:39 PM

    @Angela O’Riordan: You obviously know more than I do about this , who made the complaint ?
    Oh , I see , you just assume that anyone in a direct provision shelter is a different race .
    That’s racist .

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:40 PM

    @Aindreas Macliam: u2

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:41 PM

    @Angela O’Riordan: what racist comments ?

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:43 PM

    You lot are such a tiring bunch, same blah blah blah every day, same ‘insights’ and boring inane commentary, same racist remarks, same pretending they aren’t. SAD!

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:46 PM

    @Angela O’Riordan: It would appear you’re the racist , none of the comments that were deleted mentioned any race , or religion .

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:48 PM

    @Ken Hayden: In Alt-Right Land racism doesn’t exist, not my problem you lot can’t admit it to yourselves.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:51 PM

    @The Rev Ndabaningi Sithole: Huh?…oh I see (wink wink)…Yeah no Dave’s grand (wink wink)…top man, ardent believer in “the truth doesn’t ever need laws to protect it” if ever there was one, nah Dave’s 100%.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:52 PM

    @Angela O’Riordan: I’ll ask you something , what’s racist about asking , why there will be no further action taken on this matter , one of the comments was a reply to me , and was an edited version of the article .

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:01 PM

    @Angela O’Riordan: That’s the problem with some people Angela , they can’t debate but try to defend the indefensible .
    If someone lied to a journalist about an easily investigated story , and that journalist just published the story without getting the other sides version , do you think that’s fair ?
    Try and debate , don’t just spray slurs like racist and alt right .

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:06 PM

    @Angela O’Riordan: there she blows. You’re really full of it. Angie.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:10 PM

    @Angela O’Riordan: better check under the bed tonight for any racists that might be hiding there. And the wardrobe. Don’t forget to check the wardrobe. Angie dear.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:11 PM

    @Harry Roberts: I understand you lot get so angry when civilised people call out racism, the mirror can be a painful place for bigots.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:12 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: You’re right Dave , it’s not how things should be resolved . If people can’t argue or debate in a logical manner , then it only leads to one outcome .

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:12 PM

    @Harry Roberts: Nah, they’re all in their Mummy’s basements playing World of Warcraft and commenting on The Journal!

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:20 PM

    @Angela O’Riordan: Their “mummy’s” basement .
    What rock do you live under ? Who says mummy in Ireland ? Who has a basement ?

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:28 PM

    @The Rev Ndabaningi Sithole: well all I’ll say is maybe consider the possibility I know something you don’t…

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:34 PM

    @Angela O’Riordan: the only racists around here are in your head pulling the levers. Look. There goes another one.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:38 PM

    @Aindreas Macliam: think carefully, think about TV is article, how quickly were comments deleted? Do you really think ever deleted comment is due to a complaint? There a few people whose job it is to enforce the T’s & C’s and they go too far, banning your profile earlier was a result of you violating the rules. I would prefer your comments were still there to be honest, now it just looks like I was talking to myself. As for Fr. Somethingorother (sorry, couldn’t remember) there was one incident in particular where we were on differing sides of an issue and we were going back and forth, one if his comments was unfairly deleted so I duplicated the post as best I could from memory, even though it was in argument against me because when people play fair the system should treat them fairly.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:40 PM

    @Aindreas Macliam: the thing you know ow that he doesn’t is what you said in those deleted comments.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:45 PM

    @Angela O’Riordan: you divert instead of answering the question..what comments are racist? Or is it that you just like throwing that out there just to get a reaction..

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:53 PM

    @Julie Burn: You surprised?

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:53 PM

    @Siobhán Ni Mhurchú: Angela reminds me of a former poster on here who went by the names , Tariq and Liam .
    That guy couldn’t debate either .

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:57 PM

    @Siobhán Ni Mhurchú: Not much point in debating with unintelligent bigots, that would be a waste of time.

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    Jan 6th 2018, 12:03 AM

    @Angela O’Riordan: you were never here to engage in debate. You came in to belittle others for opinions that differ to yours yet you call others bigots

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    Jan 6th 2018, 12:08 AM

    @Ken Hayden: loved throwing out the racist card too ..

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    Jan 6th 2018, 12:09 AM

    @Angela O’Riordan: you need to back up what you’re accusing people of …otherwise they’re just empty words

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    Jan 6th 2018, 12:12 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Angie is a one trick pony. Nothing intelligent to say just keeps playing the race card.
    Nobody told him that only idiots play the race card now. It’s worn out and means nothing.

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    Jan 6th 2018, 12:12 AM

    @Kieran Conroy: by what?

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    Jan 6th 2018, 12:14 AM

    @Harry Roberts: add oddly enough he’s always going on about other people having had previous accounts!

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    Jan 6th 2018, 12:27 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: it’s a common problem with many of those that hide behind a moniker. They have plenty to say but too cowardly to post it under their real names.
    Fiona has plenty to say.

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    Jan 6th 2018, 12:43 AM

    @Harry Roberts: I happen to agree with Fiona on a lot of issues but yes, the delivery can be poorly thought out. By the way, you’re not exactly verifiable yourself.

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    Jan 6th 2018, 1:32 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: I have a theory on Fiona . If you ever pay attention to the timing of the posts , you’ll notice there are about four different personalities .
    There’s legal Fiona , there’s belligerent Fiona , there’s ileterate Fiona and there’s heavily researched Fiona .
    I’m convinced the one thing they all have in common is taxi driving .

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    Jan 6th 2018, 6:26 AM

    @Ken Hayden: spot on ken..also daisy ,rochelle ,most likely fiona a/c is operated by journal staff

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    Jan 6th 2018, 6:56 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Fiona is a latter day Victor Meldrew. Anyone who spends 24/7 venting his spleen like that, under the cover of a ridiculous moniker, probably needs professional help.

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    Jan 6th 2018, 9:45 AM

    @Ken Hayden and Henry Matthews: interesting theories journal staff or a group of taxi drivers. I’ll keep those in theories mind. Funnily enough I’ve been accused of being Fiona in the past so I have seen for myself how easy it can be to get that wrong.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 9:52 PM

    Maybe because they don’t celebrate Christmas and the communal space is used for Muslim prayers.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:06 PM

    @Nurse on call: You do realize that not all asylum seekers are Muslim don’t you?

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:15 PM

    @Nurse on call: key word there is “communal” why does one groups religious practice take priority over anothers?

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:23 PM

    @Aindreas Macliam: It doesn’t. There is a prayer room provided by the centre and the communal room was locked on the night as the residents hadn’t gotten permission to have the gathering. The residents had a whip around for the celebration with people giving a fiver towards it and that included Muslims contributing as well.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:25 PM

    @Aindreas Macliam: because there special,cant go upsetting them, God only knows what they might do

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:30 PM

    @Brian Ward: and then you woke up ,and they world was all fluffy and nice

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:37 PM

    @Brian Ward: why didnt they have the gathering in the prayer room ?

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:41 PM

    @Julie Burn: Probably for the same reason people don’t hold Christmas parties in a Church!

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:43 PM

    @Brian Ward: that was what was claimed at the time but according to the report they did actually have a celebration .

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:54 PM

    @Brian Ward: big differance between a room in a house and a church , sure were,nt they only drinking lemonade,. you know the real reason, go on say it, think for yourself for once,

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:21 PM

    @Julie Burn: A prayer room and a church are both the same, they are places to worship and not places to party in. The communal room was allegedly locked so were the Muslim’s that you accuse of using the room also locked in? If the Muslims were so against it then why did they contribute to the gathering as reported? Where in any of the reports on the matter does it say that the room was occupied by Muslims or anyone else for that matter?

    You ask me to think for myself yet you have made up a fantasy tale in your head that Muslims blocked a Christmas party. The same Muslims some how got a hold of the keys to the room and locked themselves in so as to deny others a party which the very same Muslims contributed to.

    Face it girl. You came up with a fairy story that Muslims were somehow responsible for this and you got burned. Stick your head under a cold tap until you start thinking straight.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:25 PM

    @Brian Ward: Which is why it would be nice to know why no further action is foreseen .

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:41 PM

    @Ken Hayden: I agree but I can’t see that report being released anytime soon. Charlie will wait for a bad news day and then quietly slip it out under the radar so that no one will notice.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:48 PM

    @Brian Ward: funny you should mention fairy story

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:57 PM

    @Brian Ward: So in the meantime people will just come up with theories , which can’t all be right .
    I would rather know the truth , and then deal with it .

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    Jan 6th 2018, 12:00 AM

    @Julie Burn: Is that the best you could come up with Julie. How about answering my questions or is that too difficult for you?

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    Jan 6th 2018, 12:02 AM

    @Brian Ward: so do you know the real reason?

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    Jan 6th 2018, 12:40 AM

    @Julie Burn: Yes Julie I explained it already but you obviously can’t grasp the difference between fantasy and reality. You also can’t answer any of my questions which leads me to believe that you have no answer other than trying to deflect away from the fact that you haven’t a clue what you are talking about.

    Answer my questions and prove me wrong!

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    Jan 6th 2018, 1:18 AM

    @Brian Ward: your right, goodnight Brian

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    Jan 5th 2018, 9:58 PM

    Careful everyone ,pc brigade that are ruining this country will have you band if they dont like what you are saying

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:01 PM

    @Julie Burn
    Fo you mean BANNED?

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:03 PM

    @Donal Hanley: NO Band

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:03 PM

    @Julie Burn: The tragic thing is how right you are & that they operate in packs & submit complaints in packs.
    #Censorship
    #Dystopia

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:04 PM

    @Donal Hanley: Be sure to make sure your own comment is correct when you’re trying to correct someone else ..

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:06 PM

    @Donal Hanley: Fo you mean do?

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:14 PM

    @Irish Patriot: Pretty obvious he fid!

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:15 PM

    @Aindreas Macliam: oh i know ,

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:21 PM

    @Aindreas Macliam

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    Jan 6th 2018, 12:04 AM

    @Julie Burn: Tommy/Tom/Cal etc are you back pretending to be a woman again?

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    Jan 6th 2018, 12:12 AM

    @DaisyChainsaw: I think you might be wrong on that one ..

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    Jan 6th 2018, 12:16 AM

    @DaisyChainsaw: so wrong , pro life

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:38 PM

    Sounds like one sector of the immigrants put a stop to the celebrations. Wonder who they could be.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 9:40 PM

    Perhaps The Journal could do a bit of digging here.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:17 PM

    @Griff: from the school of false journalism .
    If you want to bury something , you need to dig first .

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:01 PM

    and people say the media are not trying to influence how and what people think

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:38 PM

    So they planned to use the space christmas night turned up Christmas eve and couldn’t use the space what’s the problem, lads I don’t mind folk been treated fair a square like, but surely where they are now is better than where they came from, no amount of public lamenting and whringing of hands is going to convince me that this incident is beyond a joke.

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:11 PM

    @Jack O’Connell: point taking Jack but I just don’t see the story here is all.

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    Mute Denis Mc Kenna
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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:33 PM

    How much compensation will they take to overcome their sense of grievance.

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    Mute Julie Burn
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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:09 PM

    i think we all know what happened ,and believe me its only the beginning, special treatment , doesnt matter about all the other residents feelings

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:34 PM

    @Julie Burn: I have to be honest here , I haven’t jumped to that conclusion , but I can see why some people would .
    The failure to make public the reason , no further action will be taken , only makes people find their own answers .
    Our public servants seem to be failing us , they need to be reminded who they serve , and it’s not their own future careers .

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:48 PM

    @Ken Hayden: why do you think the reasons were ?

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:58 PM

    @Ken Hayden: i could be wrong , but

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    Jan 6th 2018, 12:27 AM

    @Siobhán Ni Mhurchú: I honestly don’t know .
    I can imagine a raft of reasons/theories .
    To be honest my first thought was the centers staff were being grinches , my second thought was that it would be turning into a wild party , my third was they have to be secular .
    I can also imagine people complaining on religious grounds , which is why I’d like to know , WTF is the real story .

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    Jan 6th 2018, 12:40 AM

    @Ken Hayden: I’m thinking it was just a false claim made by the residents because it turned out that they did have a celebration after all .

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:09 PM

    So they made it all up or what?

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:23 PM

    @Let free speech live: looks like it…

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    Jan 6th 2018, 12:08 AM

    @Let free speech live: The direct provision staff? Probably.

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    Jan 6th 2018, 12:39 AM

    @DaisyChainsaw: So why is no further action being taken ? Someone has lied .

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    Jan 6th 2018, 12:14 AM

    I believe every word those people say, we are so lucky they came to our country and their very presence enriches us.
    I bet this won’t be deleted.

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    Jan 6th 2018, 12:50 AM

    @roscommonman: With so many doctors, engineers and general whizz kids fleeing to western countries , I now know why we have so many people in hospitals on trolleys , it’s a collaboration .
    I might be getting tired here .

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    Jan 5th 2018, 10:30 PM

    They should give the money to the homeless

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:28 PM

    Flanagan an empty suit

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:50 PM

    @Angela O’Riordan: you made sure of that

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:39 PM

    @Angela O’Riordan: don’t forget to check under the bed tonight Angie. There must be dozens of racists hiding there.
    You really are a one trick pony Angie.

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    Jan 6th 2018, 12:13 AM

    Another deflection embraced with wild cheers and tobacco spits in the dail saloon.

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    Jan 6th 2018, 9:22 AM

    Pakistanis are in the majority in direct provision all have bee through the asylum process and failed they should be a request from the Irish government to the Pakistani authorities for repatriation of its citizens some may also avoiding justice in that country
    Denial of Xmas party my ass

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    Jan 5th 2018, 11:14 PM

    @Declan Hegarty: Looks like his racist comment was deleted.

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