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Opinion 'A right-wing British politician like Farage has no right to interfere in Ireland's affairs'

Nigel Farage addressing an Irish crowd about independence was both ironic and audacious, writes Jason O’Sullivan.

NIGEL FARAGE’S ADDRESS at ‘Irexit: Freedom To Prosper’ conference at the RDS in Dublin last weekend has attracted the level of media coverage its organisers would have desired.

The former UKIP leader and current MEP, is a media savvy master of soundbite, who knows how to effectively convey his Euroscepticism to the masses.

The core messages from Farage at this event was his belief that pro-Irexit candidates could win votes from pro-EU politicians in the next European elections and that more public debate should occur on the topic of “Irexit”.

It’s worth remembering that the Brexit result itself, surprised many at the time, including many of the Vote Leave contingent such as Farage. However, the negative maligning of the EU in British politics and society was not a new phenomenon pre-Brexit and had existed for decades to the merriment of a growing dissenter base, a faction that has long revered their talisman Farage and his UKIP manifesto.

There is little doubt then, that the presence of a British right-wing politician like Farage addressing an Irish crowd about independence was both ironic and audacious. Particularly given the fractured Brexit talks to date under an increasingly weakened Prime Minister Theresa May, who’s disjointed Conservative Party is still being controversially propped up by the DUP.

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In spite of such criticisms, however, has Farage raised a valid question for the Irish electorate to consider? Is it time for Ireland to re-evaluate its own relationship with the EU and debate the merits of “Irexit” if any?

The benefits of EU membership?

The salient advantages for member states is that the EU operates a single market which allows free movement of goods, capital, services and people between those member states. Therefore, member states are free to trade with other members at no additional taxation, while their respective citizens are open to many more work and educational opportunities.

Another key advantage is the significant funding available from the EU for agriculture, community projects and all levels of business and industry within its member states.

From a legal viewpoint, many of the legal protections afforded and enjoyed by all citizens of each member state, has either emanated or has been greatly enhanced through EU membership and the ruling of the European Court of Justice (ECJ).

Furthermore the historical basis upon which the EU was founded is as pertinent today as when initially envisaged at the end to the Second World War. A time when a new movement of unity was envisaged by influential thinkers, such as Britain’s Winston Churchill and French Minister Robert Schuman, who aspired to “Make war not only unthinkable but materially impossible “.

Therefore with the continual and growing instability in the Middle East coupled with a volatile US Presidency under Donald Trump- a strong united Europe based on the promotion and protection of peace, is far too valuable a benefit to not embrace during such testing times.

Euroscepticism

Despite such benefits of EU membership, dissent and scepticism has always existed to some degree throughout the EU’s history and has significantly increased in recent years.

The German election results last year sent shockwaves across the EU, when the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party stormed to an unprecedented 93 seats in the Bundestag election at the expense of Angela Merkel’s party.

German Bundestag Armin-Paul Hampel, member of parliament of the party Alternative for Germany (AfD) and Alexander Gauland (R), AfD faction leader DPA / PA Images DPA / PA Images / PA Images

Such growing cynicism and poor voter sentiment towards the EU, has been the catalyst for the substantial support enjoyed by these new wave of invigorated far-right and far-left leaning parties throughout Europe. Such political factions, play heavily on the economic hardship borne by its members, while using hardwired anti-EU rhetoric that questions the necessity of EU membership and laments nostalgically on the subject of greater sovereign rule.

Ireland itself, has also endured a rather chequered history of EU dissent in the recent past.

The Nice Treaty was initially rejected in June 2001 by the Irish electorate, a decision which was later reversed in a second referendum in 2002. A similar scenario occurred during the Lisbon Treaty with a rejection in 2008 and reversal in 2009, following concessions.

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Further scientism increased against the EU following our devastating economic crash in 2008 and subsequent bailout negotiations with the EU, via the European Monetary Fund (EMF).

The political and economic bruising the Irish government and citizens experienced at that time, helped to create a damning image of the EU and its institutions, which was amplified with the EMF’s subsequent dealings with Greece during their economic woes.

Accusations ranged from such deals being too draconian, unjust and too federally focused at the expense of citizen rights and well-being.

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Fuelling debate

We will need to wait and see if Nigel Farage’s attendance last weekend, will have any effect on stirring up or capturing EU dissent amongst Irish voters and whether the topic of “Irexit” will gain any widespread debate or political traction.

Although one might assume, there appears to be no substantive appetite or demand for Ireland to follow in the footsteps of the UK, it is still important for the Irish government and our people to evaluate and debate what exactly EU membership means to us as a nation and as a civil society.

This requires clear and constructive communication of membership benefits, as well as drawbacks and challenges, to develop an informed electorate with the necessary measured understanding to invoke change; if required.

This will in turn will enhance our ability to embrace the salient benefits and exploit the many opportunities that are still available through our EU membership, factors which now seem more real and relevant following Brexit.

It may also helpfully deter such prominent sceptics as Farage from unduly interfering in our democratic process and fuelling a debate, one feels he has little right to fuel.

Jason O’ Sullivan, is a solicitor and public affairs consultant at J.O.S Solicitors.

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    Mute The Guru
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    Mar 30th 2016, 12:31 PM

    This is a successful company that has built other parks in a number of countries. Don’t think there’s any danger of them collapsing like that other Celtic Tiger pipedream.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 2:10 PM

    This type of parc is hugely popular in europe…france in particular…this is long overdue.they provide huge employment for a region.once the access roads arent causing problems for the locals then its all good.

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    Jul 27th 2016, 10:43 AM

    Might stop the steady decline in house prices too…..

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    Mar 30th 2016, 12:28 PM

    Mr Power sounds like Grandpa Simpson…

    Dear Mr President there are too many states these days please eliminate three. P.S I am not a crackpot.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 1:30 PM

    I’ll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize missourah!

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    Mar 30th 2016, 12:40 PM

    This is why we can’t have nice things in this country, the ‘Not in my back garden’ mentality still as strong as ever.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 12:56 PM

    Not only that but you have clowns who don’t even live in the area that can object on multiple daft reasons.
    A Dublin man living in Dublin, once stopped a building being built at Knock Airport.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 2:03 PM

    Probably works for the daa. Those boyos try to destroy everything happening at other Airports.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 2:31 PM

    Dauid, some of the objections are for changes rather than to the whole scheme and are well founded.

    Some of them, as we see, are crackpots.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 12:54 PM

    Describing this as a ‘giant water park’ is a little misleading. Not exactly water slides and log flumes…

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    Mar 30th 2016, 12:39 PM

    Some may have to take one of the jobs on offer……just saying!

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    Mar 30th 2016, 12:26 PM

    Something, something, Gift Horse, Mouth….

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    Mar 30th 2016, 3:29 PM

    We have a great country but it needs a roof. Now we have it.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 10:26 PM

    If I lived in the area I wouldn’t be disturbed by 2500 people per week arriving. I would be looking at setting up some business that would relieve these 2500 people of some of their holiday money.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 12:55 PM

    What do we have to do in this country to have somewhere to go other than pubs. Every county should have one.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 1:02 PM

    Something bringing employment to the area and some people cannot open their eyes to the benefits.

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    Mute Darragh Joyce
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    Mar 30th 2016, 7:38 PM

    Because they want to stay on state benefits

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    Mar 30th 2016, 12:54 PM

    “There’s no pleasing some people.”

    “That’s just what Jesus said sir.”

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    Mar 30th 2016, 12:54 PM

    Centre Parcs?

    Centre parcs is cool. Love the Centre parcs.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 2:19 PM

    Crazy people lodging crazy planning objections is hardly news

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    Mar 30th 2016, 3:10 PM

    Some of them will be afrid they will be offered a job !

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    Mar 30th 2016, 4:25 PM

    This is absolutely fantastic for the area. Never mind the hundreds of jobs it will create, it’ll be great for the businesses in the wider area too. The ones in the uk offer off-site activities like quad biking, go karting, laser and clay pigeon shooting, that kind of thing, and hotels restaurants and b&bs in the area get a lot of business from it too – when we go we usually stay overnight somewhere the night before our stay starts, so we get there nice and early on our first day to make the most of it. You also get people shopping in the area before they go (the parcmarket isn’t the cheapest place to shop) or going out for a meal in one of the local restaurants even during their stay.

    Also, it isn’t a water park. There is a swimming pool, but that’s a small part of what Center Parcs is

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    Mar 30th 2016, 1:32 PM

    1750 jobs, at least 1500 of them will be taken by foreigners.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 1:40 PM

    by “foreigners”, do you mean Dublin? Besides, nothing wrong with an auld “mix of the gene-pool”

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    Mar 30th 2016, 2:00 PM

    Eamonn…you may be right..i suspect quite a few local young adults have emigrated from this area and the jobs eventually on offer at this parc wont be viable enough to enable them to come home and take them….so its likely that immigrants will take them….many of the employees in these type of parcs actually stay in accomodation provided.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 2:33 PM

    - 1750 jobs, at least 1500 of them will be taken by foreigners.

    1750 jobs all of which will be filled by people who apply for them.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 2:49 PM

    @Eammon

    So?

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    Mar 30th 2016, 3:10 PM

    Coming from a country that exports a fair amount of people per year since time immemorial, I think your statement is a bit rich Eamo

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    Mar 30th 2016, 5:03 PM

    Nope, no accomodation for staff on site, the space is too valuable

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    Mar 30th 2016, 7:45 PM

    By ‘foreigners’ do you mean people who have a good attitude and are not work-shy?

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    Mar 30th 2016, 7:57 PM

    John..ive been to several similar parks in europe and ive come across a number of young irish working as lifeguards,entertainers etc for the summer..i assume when this park open a lot of the staff will be french,italian etc….a fantastic adventure..and i dont think bad attitude and work shy will be tolerated..

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    Mar 30th 2016, 8:34 PM

    @Matt Connolly,
    Matt you are some illiterate, if you think a foreigner is someone from Dublin.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 8:36 PM

    @John Mulligan,
    No. Look the word up in a dictionary.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 8:38 PM

    @Peter Fechter,
    They won’t be French or Italian.
    They’ll be Eastern Europeans working for subsistence wages.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 9:54 PM

    @Phil Blanc,
    They will get the jobs because they will undercut the Irish workers.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 4:58 PM

    Jesus, longford needs something, it’s a hole.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 5:26 PM

    Rachel..it has diversity.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 5:27 PM

    lol…. wow, remind me to put longford on list of places to go for my summer holidays then! im humbled.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 1:25 PM

    Anyone else thinking “league of gentlemen”?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meF7NmfnXZ0

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    Mar 30th 2016, 1:56 PM

    That artist’s impression needs a roof and four walls with heating enclosing that pool!

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    Mar 30th 2016, 2:26 PM

    Lol.
    Better if it was built in Wexford.
    The sunny south east..

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    Jul 27th 2016, 10:45 AM

    Stuff Wexford! You have enough attractions, Longford is sadly in need of something like this!

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    Mar 30th 2016, 3:18 PM

    That’s a lot of jobs. I doubt its that many at all. Seasonal work and part time included won’t hit that figure.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 4:32 PM

    Have you ever been to Center Parcs? They employ a ridiculous number of people. Bear in mind the number of businesses that will be opening – it isn’t just Center Parcs, (think a 1000 room hotel with all associated staff) it’s the half dozen or more restaurants, the bars, the cafes, Starbucks, shops, each with their own full complement of staff. Then the dozens of lifeguards, sports staff, coaches etc, the groundskeeper guys, housekeeping. I think you’re underestimating the impact this will have on jobs in the area

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    Mar 30th 2016, 5:28 PM

    Adam…..it might even offer some competition for Trabolgan…..

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    Mar 30th 2016, 10:09 PM

    Oh I wouldnt go that far… I mean, it’s good n all, but, like, Trabolgan man!

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    Jul 27th 2016, 10:46 AM

    Its all year round jobs lads!

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    Jul 27th 2016, 1:26 PM

    Stop commenting directly to old articles Gus.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 6:03 PM

    And some people wonder why there is nothing in the country

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    Mar 30th 2016, 4:27 PM

    This is absolutely fantastic for the area. Never mind the hundreds of jobs it will create, it’ll be great for the businesses in the wider area too. The ones in the uk offer off-site activities like quad biking, go karting, laser and clay pigeon shooting, that kind of thing, and hotels restaurants and b&bs in the area get a lot of business from it too – when we go we usually stay overnight somewhere the night before our stay starts, so we get there nice and early on our first day to make the most of it. You also get people shopping in the area before they go (the parcmarket isn’t the cheapest place to shop) or going out for a meal in one of the local restaurants even during their stay.

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    Mar 30th 2016, 5:01 PM

    Sorry for the duplicate! Didn’t think it had posted :/

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    Mar 30th 2016, 5:55 PM

    Do centerparcs allow locals to pay as you go?if so I’m happy…

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    Mar 30th 2016, 8:34 PM

    Objectors probably the suits from Dublin 4

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    Jul 27th 2016, 10:41 AM

    Me Power, please tell my which village in the Longford area is missing you? If you dont return they will have to pick a NEW village idiot! You always get one nutter……

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    Jul 27th 2016, 10:41 AM

    Mr Power…….

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    Mar 31st 2016, 4:17 AM

    This is who is behind it:
    Blackstone Group
    After the subprime mortgage crisis, Blackstone Group LP has bought more than $5.5 billion single-family homes for rent, to be sold when the prices rise. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blackstone_Group#Real_estate Still happy for it to go ahead? How many have had their homes repossessed here in Ireland? This crowd are sitting on homes waiting to make a killing when the prices rise.

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