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Here's what a perfect driving position looks like - and how to fix yours

Plus, why it’s time to forget the ‘ten and two’ rule.

CORRECTLY SETTING UP your driving position not only ensures a safer journey, but also provides support and comfort for your neck, back and joints.

That’s all well and good, but millions of us drive daily with seats too high or far bar, hands too high on the steering wheel, and our rear-view mirrors misaligned.

So how should it be done?

Here’s what a perfect driver position should look like – and how to know if you’re getting it wrong…

1. Hands at nine and three 

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You’ve probably had ‘hands at ten and two’ drilled into you for years, but road safety experts now reckon our hands should be a little lower, at nine and three.

This position ensures that your hands do not obstruct the driver airbag, gives you more control when steering and makes manoeuvring the car easier.

2. Arms loose, not locked

You arms shouldn’t lock when holding and turning the steering wheel. Place your wrists on the steering wheel and adjust your seat and the wheel so that your wrists can comfortably rest there, with your shoulders against the seat back.

3. Knees slightly bent and higher than hips

Just like your arms, your legs should never be fully straight while driving. Locked limbs are more prone to fractures and breaks during an impact.

To figure out the right position, fully press in the clutch and brake pedals to the to the floor while the car is off. Adjust your seat forwards, backwards, up and down until your knees have a slight bend in them and are a little higher than your hips.

4. Head close to the headrest

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The back of your head should be no more than six centimetres away from your seat’s headrest. The top of the headrest should be at least as high as the top of your head-  or your ears should be level with the middle of your headrest.

More: 8 ways to get your car properly clean without spending a cent >

More: How ‘run flat tyres’ let you keep driving with a puncture >

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:14 AM

    Xenophobic PEGIDA movement plans Islamophobic protest……..
    Not a very neutral journalistic approach to take. I have noticed that such inflammatory terms are only used in articles that refer to any entity that opposes the current open door unregulated approach to migration.
    On the other hand, stories that portray migrant’s in a poor light either go unreported by mainstream media or are framed in a more gentle and understanding language.
    Migration is a complex issue and it’s never black or white but I know when I’m being fed pure spin.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:27 AM

    We should outlaw the word islamophobia. It is a term used by Muslims to stem criticism. If you hear someone using it you should argue with them. The word is toxic and it confuses well founded critism of a religion with bigoted hatred towards all others.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:15 AM

    Yes yes, we should ban people using the word islamophobia to protect our freedom of expression!!!

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:27 AM

    You should read up on what a phobia actually is.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:36 AM

    @Dave. Yes dave a phobia is a fear, but it is a word used by Muslims to describe critism towards their ethos, so we’re stuck with it.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:41 AM

    “Islamophobia” makes no sense as a word. You can’t have a phobia of an ideology. If someone commits anti-Muslim crimes then they are sectarian.

    Did you ever here the UVF described as a catholicphobic organisation? No.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:00 AM

    It’s not a word I like or invented Lorem but the Muslims are using it,so,as I’ve said, we’re stuck with it.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:06 AM

    Don’t give in so easy p anti, I’ll back your campaign to ban words you don’t agree with.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:13 AM

    I’ve noticed you’ve absolutely no arguement James but you just abuse other posters. Keep winning troll.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:30 AM

    I’m attacking people for coming out with massive over simplified solutions to today’s problems, banning words, sending refugees back to fight and the best today so far the Middle East is really Christian lands that and Christian armies are reclaiming it.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:30 AM

    I would have thought a person can have a fear of whatever they want.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:01 AM

    @James. James I agree with you and sorry but some of your posts come across as a bit confrontational. We’re on the same page.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:06 AM

    James, you can have the freedom to post whatever views you like as long as I can have the freedom to think you’re an arseh0le for doing so.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:41 AM

    Xenphobia:

    “fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners or of anything that is strange or foreign”.

    Seems to sum up Pegida quite succinctly.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:59 AM

    Avina you are more then entitled to call be that and in doing so you would be in the same company as most of my friends!

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    Jan 9th 2016, 3:45 PM

    James, sounds like you need new friends.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 3:48 PM

    Or become less of an arsehole

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    Jan 9th 2016, 4:01 PM

    Banning words? Really?

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    Jan 9th 2016, 5:49 PM

    Banning cartoons? Really?

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    Jan 9th 2016, 5:55 PM

    The Pegida knuckledraggers are no more interested in women’s rights than ISIS are. The Cologne attacks are a handy excuse for racists to protest.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 6:01 PM

    Yes of course Pegida are infamous for their mass rape, sexual slavery, forced marriage, stoning, torture to death of a woman for breastfeeding in a public park etc. /sarc.

    Why don’t you find an escaped Yazidi sex slave and explain to her how Pegida and Isis have exactly the same interest in women’s rights. You might want to duck quite quickly after asking though.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 6:34 PM

    the feminists seem to be caught, they just can’t take about this incident but find ways to circle around it, eg. the guardian. some joke of journalism on there. hypocrisy and a cornered rat come to mind.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:39 PM

    I don’t think cartoons should be banned either.

    It’s pretty entertaining when people make such suggestions – it’s schizophrenic: “We should ban this word but we should protect freedom of expression at all costs”. It just doesn’t make sense.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:01 PM

    Who gives a damn what religion these tugs are. Religion doesn’t come into it. If refugees are welcomed into a country, take advantage & abuse people, just throw them out.

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    Jan 10th 2016, 3:28 AM

    Check mate

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:47 AM

    Look at the language used in the article…. Far Right, xenophobic, islamaphobia. This site is truly disgusting a lot of the time. Do you think the mass assault on new years eve was deplorable??? Guess what, that makes you a racist and islamaphobic. Modern Liberalism at its finest. Imagine if 1000 white men did this. The feminazis would be up in arms. But because it was Arab immigrants, they are left trying to reconcile their warped ideology, and trying to figure out how to blame everyone else.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:53 AM

    The author should named, I’d bet its a feminist.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:59 AM

    I noticed that immediately, it’s disgusting. The German people and other European people have a right to defend themselves against the failed policies of their out of touch politicians. Islam will not integrate into Europe, PEGIDSA have valid concerns and every right to protest. The one sidedness in the media is truly disgusting and an absolute betrayal of reporting the truth.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:02 AM

    If you’re against immigration, if you’re not pro the dilution of your societies culture and if you voice concerns over safety and security. You are a racist! I guess I’m a racist so.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:20 AM

    Well to be fair the journal let you say what ever you want to at least you should be happy with that. Maybe the language they are using is a counter balance for that.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:24 AM

    I’m not surprised that nobody put their name to this thrash. Shame on the Journal editor pushing her agenda yet again

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:27 AM

    The reason the NAZIS rose in in the 1930s is because they suppressed the voice of opposition. The voice of opposition to this invasion of Islam is now being suppressed. We all.know where it will lead but aye that’s what the powers that be want.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:27 AM

    That’s not always true. I’ve had a number of posts deleted in an article last Saturday where I was debating with yourself and Rosie Gluten about abortion. A proper debate, not personal, but because I was clearly taking a pro/life stance (possibly too convincing?) the post was censored.

    No, The Journal doesn’t like freedom of speech.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:41 AM

    Je suis racist.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:45 AM

    Wiggy, do you miss the Third Reich? Poor Wiggy.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 12:18 PM

    Je Suis rapists

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    Jan 9th 2016, 12:35 PM

    @Moderate. You are correct if course, the language used in this article is disgusting. Its labeling and nothing else. We in the west hold our freedoms dear and why can we not question an ethos when it adversely effects us. Every ideology must be allowed to be subjected to open and free discussion relating to its values or otherwise, without fear of being labeled. The buzz word islamophobia is not racist any more than fascistopobia is because religion is an idea. Not a race. If you’re not born into it, and can convert into it, and can ever leave it, it’s not a race. In a civilised society, no idea, including a religious, political or philosophical ethos, should be immune to question and criticism, or set beyond the reach of empirical evidence.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 2:44 PM

    Me too then P!

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    Jan 9th 2016, 2:55 PM
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    Jan 9th 2016, 3:10 PM

    Just following in the footsteps of their paedophile prophet.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 4:38 PM

    Still no child rapes according to the Irish media.
    Mustn’t have happened then so.

    God help our women when Merkel ships 10′s of thousands of these perverts over here and Enda moves to Malta with his paymaster.

    I wonder what our fine billionaires would have to say of our open borders??
    No chance of any of our fine offshore based patriots running for government??
    There all down at a Fiendish Bilderberg Orgy with Sunderland, Bruton, Coveney, Noonan, Rockerfeller, Kissenger and Schmit planning another Eugenics event.

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    Jan 10th 2016, 12:43 AM

    Huh? What has dob got to do with this?

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:55 AM

    Best of luck Pegida you have my full support against the savages of Islam . Defend your country and your women’s rights . Germany is suffering from terrible Christianityphobia. There I just made up a nice word for us waycissssts…

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:03 AM

    The problem is when this 1.1 million+ Muslim migrants are granted german citizenship in the coming future they can travel any were in Europe like the rest of us so the current German problem may be our problem in years to come..

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:55 AM

    Plenty of labelling adjectives used in that article. Xenophobic, islamophobic, far right activists. Maybe just maybe they are just ordinary germans who want people living in their country, to adhere to the common decent values that western society was built on. Not the alien predatory dogma of these primitive mullahs that have been foisted on them. Way to go merkel for sending European culture, particularly woman’s rights, back to the medieval period. As a woman you must be very proud of your legacy.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:04 AM

    And to think the mayor of Cologne will be issuing guide lines for German women to use when dressing and acting in their own country !! Disgraceful carry on. Its victim blaming and serves to fuel the belief to these deviants that if any German woman doesn’t follows these new guidelines, and cover herself from head to toe, they are fair game for rape.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:09 AM

    Exactly Gerard xenophobia means a fear of foreigners, nothing in Pegida suggests this, they have a problem with an ideology, and Islam as ideology is simply not compatible with western values.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:42 AM

    Maybe, just maybe, this group is in fact an extreme-right fascist organisation.

    They do exist you know.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:50 AM

    Diarmuid, if they were xenophobic they would fear and distrust all ‘foreigners’ equally, but that doesn’t appear to be the case here. Now why would that be?

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    Jan 9th 2016, 12:47 PM

    That makes no sense Avina.

    And if you think these jokers like black people I think you will be sorely mistake.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 2:11 PM

    It’s pretty simple Diarmuid – sorry it’s so hard for you to grasp. The fact that certain groups of foreigners are distrusted more than certain other groups of foreigners is due to the perception of the potential threat they may present based on past and current experience. Does that make it any clearer for you?

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    Jan 9th 2016, 3:58 PM

    Ah yeah Avina, they just despise a quarter of the world’s population, but they’re not xenophobic because they’re probably OK with a few Frenchies crossing the border…

    You’re Avina Laaf.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 4:39 PM

    Diarmuid, I know thumbs aren’t everything, but a quick look at the balance of red vs green that your comments consistently attract should tell you something.
    Unless you’re like the soldier whose mother watched a parade and said “my boy was marching perfectly, such a shame everybody else was out of step”, perhaps the message should be that although you could be right and everybody else could be wrong, it’s unlikely.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 5:09 PM

    This is what happens when the entire political mainstream has clearly f*cked up. They failed to prevent an event that was in fact predicted by many people. And now if people wish to protest about it – who will organise the protest?

    The far left? No, they find it difficult to protest in favour of open borders and women’s rights and against racism and islamophobia at the same time. They’d get whiplash so they stick to anti-racism. The political mainstream are busily drawing up a burka-style code of conduct for the victims.

    So yeah, people attend a Pegida rally. And the more the left shouts ‘fascist’ at them while ignoring its own appalling hypocrisy the more strength actual fascists will gain.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 6:08 PM

    but most of them are not fascists Etain they just despise the ideology that is anathema!

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    Jan 9th 2016, 6:35 PM

    I agree William. Very often the people motivated enough to lead these things are in fact pretty nasty in one way or another but those who attend their protests etc are not necessarily so at all. That’s what I meant about actual fascists gaining from tarring them all with the same brush.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 6:42 PM

    you know which side of the fence this site sits on, same one as rte. good job i don’t come often anymore. seen it for it what it is. time for a better news site that has no bias and tells it as it is. always room for a better one.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:11 PM

    Incredible Etain that these people who claim the left high ground can go out of their way to defend Islam and yet mention the catholic church and they would swarm all over it like an army of ants.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:42 PM

    Avina, if you think the thumbs on this website reflect public opinion, you are having a laugh.

    If you think the thumbs on this website are not hackable, you are having a laugh.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:03 PM

    @Diarmuid……….Muslim Brotherhood sponsored Thumb Jihadis always busy on site here….

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:42 PM

    And Diarmuid, if you think that:
    a) you’re being personally targeted by one of your ‘thumb hackers’, and
    b) the general public are any more supportive of your views than the journal readership are,
    then you’re clearly deluded.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:08 PM

    Yeah, because half the Irish people are Shinners and the other half are xenophobes….

    You’re having a laugh.

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    Jan 10th 2016, 7:47 AM

    Diarmuid,

    1) If you think I’m a shinnerbot you clearly haven’t read too many of my posts about SF/IRA

    2) I believe genuine refugees should be supported and accommodated, however I also believe that only a proportion of the current influx of immigrants to Europe are genuine refugees – I believe that many (possibly most) are economic migrants (who are either not at risk in their home countries or who have bypassed other safe countries to get to a country of their choice), and that a small percentage are terrorists intending to cause harm and mayhem on European civilians however. I believe uncontrolled mass immigration carries risks and that inadequate integration of immigrant populations can cause huge societal problems which may not manifest until second or third generation. These views are base on observable evidence which I believe is overwhelming. If all this makes me a xenophobe* / fascist* / racist* / nazi* (*delete as appropriate) in your eyes then it’s a label I’m prepared to live with – after all it’s only your opinion.

    The opposite (ie. believing that mass uncontrolled immigration such as we have seen is not going to create difficulties in the short or long term future) is incredibly naive in my view. We’ve already seen evidence of short-term problems (Paris attacks, Cologne/Stuttgart/Frankfurt/Dusseldorf sexual assaults/robberies/rapes, attempted attack on a Paris police station a couple of days ago) and evidence of longer term problems is everywhere unless you have your eyes closed (Swedish rape statistics, race riots, Paris attacks etc. etc. etc.).

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:02 AM

    Christian and Muslims belief systems and cultures will never be compatible. What we call uncivilised behaviour is the norm in the countries they are fleeing from. You cannot change the mindset of men who were indoctrinated as children, for the most part uneducated and brain washed to follow an ethos of an archaic and primitive belief system. I’ve said this before but in Muslim countries, you would loose your head if you draw a cartoon or criticised their ethos, but what’s ok with them ? rape, beheadings, slavery, peodopila, honer killings, hostage taking, genital mutilation, pedarastry, suicide bombings, and burning people alive. Invisible Borders will not change their mindset. Now you can call me racist, but I’m not talking about a race, Arabs are Arabs, Muslims are religious. And you can call me an islamophobe, but that is a word used by Muslims to stem criticism against their belief system and culture, which is far far below the standard for which we set when treating our women.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:08 AM

    FYI general mutilation is a “Sub-Saharan African” tradition (for wont of a better word) rather than a “Muslim” or “Arabic” thing.
    But I get your overall point and uncommonly agree.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:21 AM

    @Brian. It is reported that approximately 130 million women world wide have undergone this savage procedure and the majority is actually Muslim, which I have to admit I didnt know till recently and it was surprising. Your right of course it is performed in mostly African countries, including Sudan, Somalia, Ethiopia, Kenya and Chad and is also a tradition amongst Muslims in Indonesia and Malaysia and Muslim countries in the middle east including the UAE and Egypt and rural parts of Saudi Arabia it is reported that Muslims living in Europe also use this savagery to denegrate their women.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:32 AM

    Sorry, I got that information from Rachel Maddow on NBC News, I should have guessed it was wrong.
    I’ll go back to Fox News instead. Sorry.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:49 AM

    Not at all brian, like i said, I was surprised myself.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:24 AM

    Your right p-anti, Christian countries are just to blood trusty. If you think of all the Muslim countries invaded by Christian countries in the last 100 years and compare that with Muslim countries invading Christian you will see which religion is more savage.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:32 AM

    @James, or Muslims invading other Muslim countries, Ie…..Isis in Iraq/Syria.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:54 AM

    No I specifically ask you to compare Muslim Christian countries, because you said that the religions are incompatible with each other. So for every Muslim country that has attacked a Christian one I can name five the other way for you. Just to prove to you how murderous Christians can be.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:56 AM

    You are wrong. Christian didn’t invade poor Muslims countries, not exactly. they just took that was once theirs. Crusade was a defence against Muslim invaders.
    You can history books on that matter. Also you can listen on YouTube :
    Why We Are Afraid, A 1400 Year Secret, by Dr Bill Warner

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:58 AM

    @Jame. You’re preaching to the converted here as they say. I’m firmly against any organised religion, there all have cases to answer for to a certain degree.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:01 AM

    Lovely, please remove your head from your ass so you can see what your posting! Your an embarrassment to the Irish education system.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:12 AM

    Sorry James, did I post something that was untrue or was it just different opinions to yours ? You came back there with a super arguement. I’ll go back to hedge school professor !

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:15 AM

    That last one was not for you p anti, it was directed at Lovely [kitten].

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:20 AM

    But you did bring up the incapability of the two religions and a lot of people are only more then willing to lay all the blame at the feet of Muslims. I’m try to contextualises the relationship between the two religions.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:55 AM

    @James
    In other words “I specifically asked you to make a narrow comparison that suits my argument instead of looking at the broader picture”.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:58 AM

    Sorry James, u can understand my confusion. All organised Abrahamic religions contain teachings that are morally incompatible in this day and age. Islam is the worst though, like I’ve said before, if Islam Is a religion of peace, why are all the Muslims fleeing Islamic countries ?

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:00 AM

    Now can you name your claimed five times more muslim countries that have been invaded by christians compared to the other way round, or was that just empty rhetoric?

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:16 AM

    FGM isn’t just a Muslim thing. For instance, its prevalence in Nigeria among Catholics is 31%, with 27% of Protestant and 7% of Muslim women having been subjected to this barbaric “procedure”.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:47 AM

    @Tom. Thats 65% of the female population of Nigeria ?? But if true, it only helps to compound my point that all Abrahamic religions have cases to answer for. Also, in alot of other Islamic countries, the percentage of Muslim women subjected to this barbaric procedure is surely much higher.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:55 AM

    Avina, for every example of an attack by Muslim countries on Christian I’m confident I could list five in the other direction.

    It think the history of the wests dealing with the Middle East goes along way to explaining were we find ourselves now.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 12:02 PM

    (Ottoman empire.).. ask the people in eastern / southern Europe 400 years of Islami rule. they lay siege to gates venina in 1529… whole of Europe could have falling to islam then …..Europe is facing gates of venina once more… will we be successful this time….!!!!!!

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    Jan 9th 2016, 12:02 PM

    @ p anti, My fault should have been clearer

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    Jan 9th 2016, 12:06 PM

    Let’s see your list then James…

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    Jan 9th 2016, 12:27 PM

    How long am I allowed go back 100 or 400 years?

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    Jan 9th 2016, 12:42 PM

    We’ll start with Libya, the coalition against Gaddafi includes but is not limited to:
    Bulgaria
    Belgium
    Canada
    Denmark
    France
    Greece
    Italy
    Netherlands
    Norway
    Romania
    Spain
    UK
    Usa
    Sweden

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    Jan 9th 2016, 12:55 PM

    “What we call uncivilised behaviour is the norm in the countries they are fleeing from” and vice versa, they see what we feel is very normal as uncivilised i.e.like wearing bikinis etc two completely different cultures.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 1:00 PM

    Coalition against Saddam in Iraq
    War, included but was not limited to:
    Australia
    Denmark
    Georgia
    Italy
    Netherlands
    Poland
    Spain
    UK
    Ukraine
    U.S.A.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 1:12 PM

    Agreed. But let’s not split hairs.
    Hindus commit acts of barbarism too.
    Buddhism teaches that if you live in poverty on the side of a hill it must be because you were a bad person in a previous life.
    Don’t even get me started on Judaism.
    All religion needs to go. If not entirely then at least from all aspects of public life.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 1:29 PM

    I’m going to make the case for the Gulf war to be included, because although Saddam was clearly the aggressor in the invasion of Kuwait. He did not attack any of the countries listed below. But they joined a coalition that bombed Iraq into submission(Christian countries attacking Muslim country) again these are only the Christian countries involved, of course there was Muslim countries as a Buddhist.

    Argentina
    Australia
    Belgium
    Canada
    Czechoslovakia
    Denmark
    France
    Greece
    Hungary
    Italy
    Netherlands
    New Zealand
    Norway
    Poland
    Spain
    Sweden
    UK
    U.S.A.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 1:39 PM

    Avina, you owe me 8 and a bit examples

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    Jan 9th 2016, 1:57 PM

    Don’t forget the muslim crusades of Christian countries from 600 AD to the start of the Christian crusades? 400 years of invasions etc. before the Christian crusades started. Ottoman empire invasions of Christian countries from 1200 AD onwards?

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    Jan 9th 2016, 2:06 PM

    Very good James – so far you’ve got Syria and Iraq….

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    Jan 9th 2016, 2:15 PM

    I have 41 Christian countries attacking two Muslim countries

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    Jan 9th 2016, 2:53 PM

    1920 Franco Syrian war

    1920 Franco Turkish war

    1920-26 the Rif War Spain and France against the Rif Republic (Morocco)

    1923 Adwan rebellion UK forces attack sultan Adwan

    1936 the Arab revolt, Britain attacks Arab forces in Palestine

    1939 Italian invasion of Albania

    1948 Malayan war British and commonwealth forces against Malayan rebels

    1954-62 Algerian war, France v Algerian rebels

    1956 Suez crisis, UK and France attack Egypt

    1957 ifni war, Spain and France against Morocco

    1963 Aden emergency British forces against Yemeni independence groups

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:23 PM

    @james mc. …………….how many countries did Islam ATTACK and take slaves from,including Ireland, since the 7th cent.?
    —-”The Arab slave trade: 200 million non-Muslim slaves from all colors and nationalities
    . Slavery was not only black history; slavery was Islamic history around the world. More historical findings is pointing that over 150 million African slaves being traded by Arabs over a period of 14 centuries, and at least 50 million slaves of other ethnicities.(including Ireland).—”

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:24 PM
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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:41 PM

    @patrick normally I wouldn’t engage with you, cause I think your mother throw out the baby and reared the afterbirth.

    But maybe you would care to take part in my challenge? I have named 55 “Christian” countries (so far) that have attacked Muslim countries in the last century, can you name 11 the other way? It was meant for Avina but he/she chickened out.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:50 PM

    @james mc……My Dad always warned me accepting propositions from filthy -minded people–just like you james have shown yourself to be.
    But then your morality,behind your facade,comes from Mohammed the child-molester and head chopper,- so how can you know any better!.
    The Mohammedan Cult of evil and death you defend has brought misery to most all the continents and continues on unabated.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:35 PM

    Not at all James – I was expecting you to give me a list of muslim countries attacked by christians alongside a list of christian countries attacked by muslims.

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    Jan 10th 2016, 12:15 AM

    Moslims fighting in (South Thailand buddists ) ( south Philippines catholic s )(western China government )(north india Hindus )(Pakistan with each other )(isreal jews)(Palestine christians)(lebanon.christians been attacked by shiite /sunni )(egypt coptic christians by sunni moslims )(algeria /morroco/Tunisia /Libya /Sudan /u might is well all arab countries there is fighting )(across all mid and north africa (nigeria )(Afghanistan )(south russian )there is many more… ISLAM is at War with the World

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    Jan 10th 2016, 12:56 AM

    Actually I’m 100% atheist, so go fu(k yourself hate monger!

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    Jan 10th 2016, 12:58 AM

    @Bobby

    Muslim countries attacking Christian countries, in the last 100 years.

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    Jan 10th 2016, 1:19 AM

    @patrick

    I’m surprised you know who your dad was, because you come across as a son of a bitch!

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:50 AM

    Close the gate. Far too many young men allowed to ‘flee’ when they also should be taking some responsibility in trying to address the problems in their home nations. The international community then needs to support these efforts with boots on the ground. Enough of this open door policy which will ruin countries. But given there are more deaths than births in the natural German population is not surprising that greedy Merkel dresses the underlying workforce concern up with a humanitarian shroud.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:56 AM

    Far right propaganda maybe, but worth a watch https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_5yfu9FzD_o

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:55 AM

    People need to forget about left and right. There are some issues where it’s just right or wrong. All of a sudden if you believe in sovereignty and the nation state, you’re a far right extremist! The terms Islamiphobic and xenophobic are just to make you afraid of speaking out.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:01 AM

    The problem is this new global left wing movement backed by the richest people in the world and financial institutions are forcing once moderate people into extreme right wing views.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 3:03 PM

    They’re not extreme views, they’re common sense views in an extreme situation

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:42 AM

    Oh no. Not the rightwing, heavens forbid. Its such a dirty word over here.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:53 AM

    It won’t be when 3/4 millions arrive next spring and summer.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:39 AM

    Keep them out or pay the price. Germany is a patient that has being infected by a nasty virus that will destroy the patient if counter measures aren’t taken pronto

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    Jan 9th 2016, 3:03 PM

    keep these rape-fugees out of Ireland

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:09 PM
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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:54 AM

    “Xenophobic” and “islamaphobic”? The journalist isn’t keen to hide their views on the matter. A phobia is an irrational fear. After the well-choreographed attack by middle-eastern immigrants in NYE revellers in Cologne it would be hard to describe a fear of these immigrants as a phobia. They launched fireworks into the crowd to generate panic and a stampede, and then robbed and sexually assaulted people in the crowd as the panic and confusion set in.
    How could you not be against that?
    It concerns me that the far-right are taking advantage of this incident to generate support for themselves (their ideology belongs to the horrible past) but they are not the only ones against the German open-border policy of last year that created these ghettos.
    I can understand where, with German population growth becoming stagnant, it’s appealing for Government to take in future tax-payers under its wing, but they are in danger of costly issues of social in-cohesion and tension.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 5:48 PM

    This comment is far more on point than the article above. The journal should ask you to write an article for balance.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 6:47 PM

    Very well written and articulate reply. I would agree with the other commenter – the Journal should ask you to write a counter balancing response article.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:25 AM

    Isn’t it ironic that Angela Merkel is exasperating an image she is so desperately trying to escape. Apart from the fact the German population is ageing I believe her motivation for that insane invitation to all asylum seekers was her trying to “cleanse” Germany’s image after the atrocities of WWII. She is actually giving rise to what she deplores. The irony!!

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:29 AM

    She should loose her job.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:39 AM

    I think that is a little simplistic to be honest. There is a long history of a Muslim community in Germany (the Turkish areas in Berlin are great parts to go out in).

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:49 AM

    “Turkish areas”? That’s my point. What? Did Turkey annex a part of Berlin (again)? If you allow for ghettos you’re creating hothouses of cultural difference which will, in turn, create friction points at their edges.
    The freedoms and laws that make Germany attractive to many Muslim emigrants are the same laws that they, or others who have also come, what to abolish and replace with Sharia laws.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:56 AM

    Except they are not ghettos, there is a ton of lovely restaurant there that everyone can go to, have you even been to Berlin or Germany? And the reason the Turks are there in the first place is they basically helped rebuild the place in the 50s.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:13 AM

    @Ron. There are Muslim gethos is Sweden which are no go areas for locals for fear of being mugged or raped . Even the police try to avoid these areas. They can’t integrate, their whole religion and ethos is fundamentally incompatible with western values, therefore this is a trend that will continue as long as borders remain a free for all.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:23 AM

    Have you even ever been to Sweden? I lived there and you are taking rubbish.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:25 AM

    There is no area is Sweden that is worse than Darndale, Mayfield or countless other areas in Ireland

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:38 AM

    How long ago was that Ron and you obviously know more than the recent multiple reports concerning these gethos. I’ve read up on them and it’s definitely a problem in Stockholm.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:41 AM

    Well that’s the thing about looking for reading material, you’ll tend to find the type of content that you are looking for.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:47 AM

    Rediculus statement Ron. Maybe you should re visit.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:50 AM

    Get them all out before it is too late. Even if they are in Germany for ages. Whoever commits a serious crime or doesn’t want to adopt Western values- off they go. It is the only way forward
    Listen to Geert Wilders, we need leaders like him

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:59 AM

    Ron, the fact that you know what you are talking about, based on real and direct experience, is sadly no answer to the rhetoric of prejudice.

    All Muslims have now been demonised as a result of the actions of a tiny number of persons of possible or likely Muslim background and of North African origin.

    Outrageous and shocking sexual violence towards women by non Muslims does not attract the same degree of vocal condemnation and opprobrium Because it does not suit the narrative of paranoia towards Muslims fostered by ISIL.

    It should not need to be said but sexual violence against women is not confined to Muslim offenders.

    The human mind tends to over generalise from the particular, especially when it does not have adequate knowledge and experience.

    There are bad Muslims but there are also good Muslims. There are bad Catholics but there are also good Catholics. Human variability is not determined by race, religion, ethnicity or nationality

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:04 AM

    @Fiona. Finally you’ve picked up the courage to respond to these sickining acts and you go with the usual apologistic rethoric. Fundamentally their whole ethos teaches them to see women as second class citizens and they denegrate them as a matter of course based on their teachings which is perfectly acceptable in their Islamic countries. Would you buy an apartment in Cologne city centre,I doubt it.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:12 AM

    The problem is that the events last week are showing that while is a small proportion of Muslims, its not that small

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:15 AM

    A “tiny number” of people of “possibly” an arabic background?? WTF?? Did I really just read that??
    Have you been under a rock for the past week Fiona?
    I really can’t understand the mentality of people who are so enthusiastically committed to the destruction of their own society.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:33 AM

    Fiona previously accused me of being a Nazi sympathiser because I knew the book Mein Kampf was available to buy in Eason’s. That shows the type of person you’re dealing with.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:58 AM

    @Fiona. “It should not need to be said but sexual violence against women is not confined to Muslim offenders”. Correct, but what is your point ?

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    Jan 9th 2016, 12:25 PM

    Only way evil will prevail is when good people say nothing…(Germany NYE)…

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    Jan 9th 2016, 1:07 PM

    Agree with you on the crime bit.
    If a refugee commits a violent crime in their host country they have voided their right to be there and should be sent back to their country of origin to whatever fate awaits them.
    However. Germany took in 100,000 asylum seekers in the past few years.
    German police are seeking 31 suspects in this case.
    I’m shit at maths. Can anyone tell me what percentage of 100,000 that is?

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    Jan 9th 2016, 1:30 PM

    @Sagiton. There are now over one million refugees in Germany, not 100,000. Also, you are limiting your statistics to one night, new years eve. You can Google the trends in rising crime rates and types of crimes in each host country. They are worrying.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:01 PM

    Ah yes Sweden…who just closed border…you’ll enjoy this…
    https://youtu.be/3KSJY0c8QWw

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    Jan 10th 2016, 12:51 PM

    Are you even a woman Fiona? Do you have daughters? Shame on you

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:01 AM

    Poor old Peter Sutherland getting very worried about the plight of refugees on twitter, God bless him.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 6:02 PM

    Peter can phuk off, frankly. I heard his whinging speech on the radio recently and it was typical Ivory tower BS.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 6:39 PM

    he’s just pushing the agenda of the UN and the elite instructions. Cushy pushys. Pull him down on to the housing list and €35k per. annum sector and see how it changes his BS tune. Saw in interview with him in a room explaining his case for mass migration. He sounded like 1. he was in need of using a toilet but trying to hold it in while 2. making it up as he went along, while the others in the room looked confused by the nonsense he spewed that has no solid proof to benefit nationals other than the upper class pocket.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:05 AM

    The majority of people are suffering from rape-phobia, not islamophobia.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:14 AM

    When is the Dublin march?

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:22 AM

    Why don’t you organize one?

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:53 AM

    Public flogging. Lets get mediaeval on their ass.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:00 AM

    Is it right wing to want women to be able to go out for a drink at night without being sexually assaulted by some dirt bag Muslim immigrant / asylum seeker ???

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:42 AM

    “Xenophobic” and “islamaphobic” – give me a brake. There is nothing irrational about their fears. I detest journalists, all that name calling is shameful. iA phobia is an irrational fear. After the sexual terror attack by Muslim immigrants in NYE revellers in Cologne it would be hard to describe a fear of these immigrants as a phobia. I hope Germans will rebel against totalitarian regime of Angela Merkel. She must be done for treason of the German people.
    Now, we, in Ireland, must do something to prevent this from happening here.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:51 AM

    If people don’t think that this should be a red line issue, maybe it will be in 5 years time after years of marauding sexual Arab deviants running around Dublin and other cities assaulting our women. It is perfectly ok to question and criticise an ethos. Thats not racism, xenophobia or islamophobia, thats questions and critism and you can label me with any of those terms, I would rather defend my right to free speech and free will.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:37 AM

    People who have concerns about mass undocumented immigration are being labelled xenophobic or racist. The far right will grow because they’re the only ones willing to push against this. Look at the interview the Journal had with Identity Ireland, they spent more time talking about racism because they were against mass immigration than about some of their other policies, some of which were ludicrous.

    When the opinion pieces started to come out yesterday, only the Guardian accepted it was time to have a proper discussion about this. However, like the Telegraph and Vice, it felt like they were defending and looking for acceptance of these men or trying to diminish what they had done.

    I don’t think we should tar all immigrants with the same brush but then again, you can’t tar everyone who disagrees with mass immigration with the same one either.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:30 AM

    “braced for right-wing rally”………talk about setting the stage for the argument before it begins. so anyone who is opposed to mass uncontrolled immigration is a far right loon. talk about bull####, people from all over the political spectrum are opposed to this.
    this is all by design https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70e0sa1QHTM
    people need to get away from the notion that this is to the blind stupidity of some politicians, this is all scripted ans planned.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:51 AM

    “The Islamophobic protest was planned from 2pm local-time in the central square where hundreds of women last week ran a gauntlet of groping hands, lewd insults and robberies in mob violence that has shocked Germany.”

    That’s what they are spinning now folks. All it was was a bit of groping and a few bad words. Never mind the fact that over 200 women were sexually assaulted, at least four where raped in 5 Gerrman cities.

    Unbelievable.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:31 AM

    Who wrote this tripe ??

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:41 AM

    it is telling that nobody will put their name to this propaganda tripe.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:54 AM

    Associated Foreign Press. The Journal still reprinted it though, so they take responsibility for it.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:52 AM

    @Eamonn. Exactly, if they decide to regorgitate this neoliberal leftist rethoric, they are endorsing it’s content.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:14 PM

    @Dave Meagher………. But I can guess who may have paid for it,Saudi Prince Alwaweed who donated $32bill.to fostering Muslim propaganda last year, and we are going to see a lot more of him -albeit in the back-ground. We can also see him here directly in the amount of shils constantly denigrating the West. With that amount of money he can buy most people and a few newsmedia,etc.
    —-Saudi Prince pledges $32 billion to “charity”: promoting Islam, while censoring criticism of it.
    Alwaleed says he will model his endowment on the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, only with a twist: Much of his philanthropic work will help “foster cultural understanding” of Islam in America and the West.—-”
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/07/saudi-prince-pledges-32-billion-to-charity-promoting-saudi-arabias-brand-of-islam-while-censoring-criticism-of-islam

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    Jan 10th 2016, 8:57 AM

    @ Patrick@Davi Meagher et al and all Twitter users……….Just arrived in my mail box coincidentally to-day.The Saudi ‘philantrophist with strings attached’Prince Alwaleed increased his stake in Twitter to 5% recently.
    Now Twitter has come out with a new ‘speech policy’ that will censor comments on ‘sensitive topics’.
    —-”What’s the policy? Twitter prohibits the promotion of hate content, ”sensitive topics’, and violence globally…—”
    This is very important as this year,Obama’s last yr., they,the Muslim Brotherhood and the OIC, will make the ‘Big Push’ against ‘Freedom of Speech’ in the US Congress and the Canadian parliament.

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429190/islam-twitter-and-free-speech?zTSObGVDOGpr8swg.01

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    Jan 9th 2016, 8:42 AM

    Tip/correction for the author: http://m.wikihow.com/Write-Without-Bias

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:38 AM

    I’m worried if the Germans kick these savages out, many of them will came here where they know this crap will be tolerated.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:15 AM

    ‘Details of what happened in the frenzied crush remain hazy’
    What has become obvious in the past week is, the german authorities did everything to cover up the scale and impact of this, it is reported this may not be an isolated incident.
    The other side of this of course is the german need for cheap labour to maintain their pensions in the coming decades.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:58 AM

    You would be afraid to have a sense of national identity or pride in your country….next thing your a racist and anti Muslim. The leftist PC brigade in this country would cancel St Patrick’s day in a flash just incase it might afend anyone of our……guests shall we say!

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:37 AM

    There’ll be murder, pack them all up and send them back. No exceptions. All the do Gooders will be on saying it was exaggerated. ” Ah sure they didn’t know it was wrong, and sure the women were probably dolled up to the nines, the poor craters wouldn’t be use to that “. Pack them onto ferries with armed soldiers on board,airlift off the crew and beach the ferry in the gulf somewhere

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:12 PM

    Good point. All do gooders should be either locked up for treason on Achill Island or deported for Treason especially frances Fitzgerald, enda kenny and joan burton

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:11 AM

    Islam is a different culture and its naive to think that all Muslims easily break their bonds with habits and tradition and adjust to European culture, customs and law. isis knows that, and if u read about their long term strategy spoken by high profile members, it gets really scary. Everything bad what is going in Europe strengthen their strategy. Unfortunatly eu governments dont get that and we will all pay for that to a certain degree. Shame on u UE.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:13 AM

    Millions of young fundamentalist third world Muslim men move to two of the most modern, open and feminist societies en masse. Car crash globaliation tv, i’m surprised we’re not watching some channel 5 trash reality tv show.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 9:52 AM

    There will be no trouble at the rally if the pro immigration lefty liberal do gooders stay at home and let the people marching make their point in a democratic way.
    Then let the pro immigration lefty liberal do gooders have their march another day and let the baddie right wingers stay at home.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:18 AM

    Perhaps we could do whip round and hire a gang of white guys to patrol the centres of German cities, as the police don’t seem to be interested in intervening while their women are raped.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:37 AM

    Geert Wilders ~ The Conservative Forum ~ 8-11-2015

    Just listen to to the Dutch politician Geert Wilders. I wish we had a politician like this

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    Jan 9th 2016, 2:30 PM

    54% of Germans polled recently oppose Merkels policy. The govt has changed party funding laws to stop the AFD financing itself with its online gold shop. Groups like AFD and Pegida are a symptom of a climate of liberal censorship on immigration.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 5:38 PM

    Disgusting, the German authorities are turning on their own and backing the savage Muslim barbarians. Water cannons on their own. They should have rounded up the filth on New Years and used live rounds on them. German guilt for world war 2 could bring about the end of civilisation

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:04 PM

    @Omar Batistuta………Germany wont get rid of the war guilt by loading the place up with Jew-haters like the Arabs,etc.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 5:50 PM

    They didn’t hose down the Arab rapists but they are well able to do it to they’re own citizens

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    Jan 9th 2016, 3:05 PM

    In this day and age, with access to mobile phone video and photos, and especially in Germany on street surveilance (outside the city’s main train station!). The evidiience must be available to show. It is understandable that the German authorities have first sight of this , but it is nearly two weeks old. Show the video of this happening, post photos of the alleged perpetrators.. It might help.. just my 2 cent worth..

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    Jan 9th 2016, 5:39 PM

    How can I join Pegida?

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    Mute Lovely Kittens
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    Jan 10th 2016, 2:09 PM

    I am interested too.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 3:51 PM

    And we are going to welcome these people into our country, we have no resources to deal with them, so they can do what they like ,

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:09 PM

    Fg frances fitzgerald and enda kenny and labour joan burton and cohorts invite them. Irish majority dont want them.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 10:17 AM

    Bring back the small fella.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 5:32 PM

    Pity the police didn’t have the teargas handy new years eve when fireworks were fired into the crowd.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 5:22 PM

    well done to the patriotic protesters

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    Jan 9th 2016, 6:45 PM

    I thought there was a shortage of police officers in Cologne? New years Eve one of the biggest nights of the year for the police force I would think.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:23 PM

    The plaza in front of the Hauptbahnhoff is usually not full of crowds standing around. I am actually surprised that fireworks were allowed to go off in that area, as it’s pretty darned central to the city. There are parks and other areas just five minutes by s-bahn that would be much better.

    Cologne is a large city. There were probably other events in other areas that they were more afraid would get out of hand.

    The plaza is huge but you very rarely see more than 5 police officers around as it’s not the most crime-heavy place. In all my times going through that train station and walking across that plaza, I’ve never seen a crime happen. My first time walking over the ha’penny bridge in dublin a few months back, I saw someone try to nick a woman’s bag.

    Cologne was a very safe city.. safer at midnight than Cork or Dublin at 4 in the afternoon.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 6:43 PM

    If you keep labelling Pegida as “far right” , don’t you think you might end up pushing them into the arms of the REAL far right? With all this labelling from the media , maybe Pegida folks will just end up saying , “fck it.. Let’s really join the Nazis , as we’re being called that anyway”.

    Very dangerous game the media and outlets like the Journal are playing.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:09 PM

    Maybe if the Cologne police were as pro-active on New Years Eve as they are at the protest marches – no one would be in the sorry mess they are clearly in. 5 Months ago Merkel was being hailed as an uncrowned queen of Europe with her open arms/open door policies. But in typical Western political fashion, she has been back-sliding and back-peddling on her own slime ever since as the fall-out sucks her towards political oblivion – bye bye

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:36 PM

    How come the journal is reporting event this so quickly, don’t these things usually take four days?

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:00 AM

    The guy on the right at the back of the photo seems to be happy to stick with his point of view…!!!!

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:36 PM

    The German police seem to have been fairly proactive today, pity they werent so afraid to react on NYE. Its very dangerous how people are being manipulated into nonaction for fear of being branded racist. This has to stop.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:17 PM

    This whole storm has me devastated. I love Germany. I love Cologne. It’s one of my favourite cities to go to. Any time I go to Germany, I make a point of going there, if just for a few hours, as I love it so much.

    I lived in Bonn a few years ago, just half an hour by train from Cologne. I remember walking through the city once at about midnight.. It felt so much safer at that time, than Cork does at four or five in the afternoon.

    The fact that someone has gone and so disturbed the peace and safety of such an amazing city has me heartbroken. I feel so bad for everyone that was attacked that night, both in Cologne and elsewhere.

    I was meant to go to Dusseldorf later this year. I cancelled my trip hours before the Paris attacks in November as I worked out my finances, and realised I wouldn’t be able to save enough money for the trip. Probably just as well, as I was going to a large, popular, well known (in some communities) event. I was intending to spend a day in Cologne before flying home. The one thing I’m glad about is that my reason for cancelling was personal, and not forced on my by fear of terrorists.

    I only wish I had been in Cologne to join those women in their protest.

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:37 PM

    Yea it’s disgusting. Cologne is beautiful I used to go up from Brussels. I thought of it as like a utopia, spotless clean, no filth on the streets either litter or people and just felt safe and what a civilised city should be like. Great beer, watching bundesliga with the beautiful local German people. The Xmas markets were beautiful, one right at the the top of the steps where the savage Muslim rapist filth terrorists were. I remember thinking at the Xmas market how beautiful it was and how safe no little scrotes or idiots falling over locked. God love the beautiful German people they think everyone is good natured like them. They are so civil and advanced that they get hoodwinked by the sub human filth beneath them because they probably naively think there is good in everyone

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:25 PM

    Unfortunately when you open the doors too wide to refugees lots of rubbish inevitable gets in and this is what is happening. The only solution is to close them tighter and try to stem the flow of the non desirables. Once they’re it’s in they should be given a probation period to prove themselves capable of integrating. It’s a challenge in itself to integrate even the more educated Muslim migrants. With the cave men like the ones in cologne…forget about it. Send em back asap

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    Jan 9th 2016, 7:38 PM

    I disagree Mike they shouldn’t be let in at all end of story. At most camps set up for a few to return to their native country as soon as possible. They don’t want to integrate

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:17 PM

    Well done to the far right, please come to Ireland, we need your assistance against all these f…ing dogooders here who want all these little mohomads here…..

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    Jan 10th 2016, 12:33 AM

    Mass rape and sexual assault of German women is called a spat? It’s funny how there were no police to protect German citizens during NYE celebration but when the citizens voice their objection to the destruction of the country and heritage the are called xenophobic, uneducated, racists and beaten with clubs and tear gassed. Who runs Germany anyway?

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    Jan 10th 2016, 2:40 AM

    Where was the water cannons when the women were been raped and sexually assaulted by a huge crowd of immigrants?

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    Jan 9th 2016, 6:10 PM

    Islam will rule over all of you Kafirs, the march of Mohammeds followers throughout Europe is unstoppable ALLAHU AKBAR!!!

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    Jan 9th 2016, 5:50 PM

    What do all the Shinner bots on here think about their party getting into bed with the brown envelopers who caused all the untold misery in this country?

    I find the hypocrisy hilarious myself :D :D

    Have a marvellous weekend y’all

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    Jan 9th 2016, 6:16 PM

    Don’t consider myself a “Shinnerbot” but I do vote Sinn Fein. SF are on the wrong side of this. 70% of their electorate are against this migration and that’s the most of any party.

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    Jan 10th 2016, 9:27 AM

    Here’s a terrific Tommy Robinson video made just very recently on events in Cologne . Tommy is now on the executive of Pegida UK and there is a march planned for Feb 6 in Birmingham UK.
    Perhaps someone might get an Irish Chapter of Pegida going here
    http://gatesofvienna.net/2016/01/tommy-robinson-this-has-to-stop/#comments.

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    Jan 10th 2016, 10:22 AM

    @Patrick..he is spot on we need to get our priorities right, thanks for the video.

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    Jan 10th 2016, 1:16 PM

    Muslims here are not to adopt they are here to conquer. If somebody doesn’t see it yet, they are either idiots or blind or both

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    Jan 10th 2016, 5:34 PM

    Let’s get this straight. The German police stood by and did nothing while a thousand “refugees” raped, molested, attacked, robbed, knifed, spat, defecated, urinated, vomited, ranted, and raved as they turned an area of a beautiful city into a hell hole for 1000 women and teenage girls.
    And now they get their butts in gear and use water cannons on the people protesting this barbaric savagery?

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    Jan 10th 2016, 1:38 PM

    What the hell does Merkel think she is doing? Does she really think it is going to end well? I just can’t see any light at the end of the tunnel. Can you? Can we still safe Ireland?

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    Jan 10th 2016, 12:15 PM
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    Jan 10th 2016, 5:22 PM

    @Lovely Kittens…………Great video. I esp. liked the car ride with Tommy Robinson through Islamo-Fascist no go area.You can watch Tommy ,who is on the exec. of Pegida UK,here http://gatesofvienna.net/2016/01/tommy-robinson-this-has-to-stop/#comments. .Pegida plans to march through Birmingham Feb 6.
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    @Rowe…….Glad you like the video

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    Jan 9th 2016, 3:52 PM

    Why ask to post a comment??

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    Jan 9th 2016, 11:22 AM

    The women in Europe need to be more understanding of these poor men. They are only doing as they’d do in their own country and probably don’t even see it as wrong. They will learn in time.

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