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Updated 10.40pm
RUSSIA HAS ANNOUNCED a mass expulsion of US diplomats and the closure of the US consulate in Saint Petersburg in retaliation to coordinated moves by Western countries to isolate Moscow in the wake of the poisoning of a former double agent in Britain.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Moscow would expel 60 US diplomats and close Washington’s consulate in Saint Petersburg in a tit-for-tat response to the expulsion of its envoys across three continents.
In a preliminary reaction, Washington said there was “no justification” for the Russian move and that the United States “reserves the right to respond”.
Lavrov said the US Ambassador to Russia Jon Huntsman had been informed of “retaliatory measures”, which include “the expulsion of the equivalent number of diplomats and our decision to withdraw permission for the functioning of the US consulate general in Saint Petersburg”.
Earlier, Washington had ordered 60 Russia diplomats to leave the country and shut down the Russian consulate general in Seattle.
In all, more than 150 Russian diplomats have been ordered out of the US, EU members, NATO countries and other nations in coordinated action against Moscow which they accuse of poisoning ex-spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia in a nerve agent attack in the English city of Salisbury on 4 March.
Today, the hospital where the two are being treated said that Yulia, 33, was “improving rapidly and is no longer in a critical condition”, while 66-year-old Sergei remained in a critical but stable condition.
Britain has said that it is “highly likely” that Russia was responsible for the attack using a nerve agent developed in the Soviet Union, but Russia has angrily denied any involvement.
The Russian foreign ministry said that 58 diplomats from the US embassy in Moscow and two from the consulate in the city of Yekaterinburg have to leave Russia by next Thursday.
And the US consulate general in Saint Peterburg will have to be vacated by Saturday.
Moscow warned that Huntsman’s suggestion – made on Russian RBK television – that the US could also freeze Russian state assets would lead to “further serious deterioration in our relations”.
And it warned that it could take further measures in response if Washington “continued hostile actions” against the Russian embassy and consulates.
“We have suggested that the US authorities, which have encouraged and inflated a campaign of slander against our country, should come to their senses and cease thoughtless actions that destroy bilateral relations,” the ministry said.
Lavrov said Russia was also mulling tit-for-tat responses to the other countries that have expelled its diplomats.
“As for the other countries, it’s also all symmetrical measures as to the number of people who will be leaving Russia from diplomatic missions, and that’s all so far,” Lavrov said.
Indeed, the measures might “not only” be symmetrical, he said.
‘Pressure from US and Britain’
Lavrov said Russia was reacting to “absolutely unacceptable actions that are taken against us under very harsh pressure from the United States and Britain under the pretext of the so-called Skripal case.”
He accused London of “forcing everyone to follow an anti-Russian course.”
Lavrov said Britain had informed Moscow of the state of health of Yulia Skripal on Thursday and that Russia had asked again for access to her as a citizen.
Lavrov said Moscow wanted to “establish the truth” over the poisoning and accused Britain of “making mockery of international law.”
He said that Russia had asked for a meeting with the executive council of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons on Tuesday to ask questions to “establish the truth.”
“We are counting on our Western partners not evading an honest conversation,” Lavrov said.
After the poisoning, Britain reacted by announcing it would expel 23 Russian diplomats, suspend high-level diplomatic contact with Moscow and not send royals to the 2018 football World Cup hosted by Russia.
Russia then responded by closing a British consulate in Saint Petersburg and closing the British Council educational and cultural organisation.
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I was hoping they’d go further. Maybe they could make an example of Ireland?
@Dessie Deratta: What a weird thing to say
@Simon: Not really. The house putinistas have been very critical of Ireland. I imagine prolonged bouts of purgatorial self-flagellation will be in order to atone for the countrys crimes against St. Vlad of the 33 assassinations.
@Honeybadger197: FFGbot…working the threads 24/7
@Dessie Deratta: Dry your eyes Dessie. Vlad knows you love him.
I am rather more motivated by a detestation of the Pentagon’s Project for a New American Century – aka US world domination, mass murder across the globe, bloody invasion of country after country – than by love for anyone.
And that feeling extends to the “elites” in the EU who are well rewarded servants of the Pentagon and Western Corporate Imperialism. Which includes FFG in the RoI, obviously.
Whether you’ve bought the Pentagon snake-oil or are merely selling it for a commission I have no idea – but it’s still snake-oil.
@Dessie Deratta: well when you peel that skin off a banana republic that is neither soverign or neutral there is nothing much left apart from a rotten core.
@neilo: “Speak for yourself…”
Check out my post FFGbot – that is exactly what I am doing!
@Dessie Deratta: Oh captain, my captain!
@Honeybadger197: Yer welcome Honey.
@neilo: A FFGbot is like a Putinbot but serving a different, and more evil, master.
@neilo: Sank with Iraq?
Only in the sense that is has turned in to a military quagmire – not in the sense they the Pentagon has stopped trying!
I mean, ffs, John Bolton is in the White House – how PNAC can you get?
@Honeybadger197: “Never in the field of brown-nosing was so much shite peddled under so many fake accounts by so few Putinbots”
@Harry Whitehead: whitehead
ˈwʌɪthɛd/
noun
noun: whitehead; plural noun: whiteheads
1.
informal
a pale or white-topped pustule on the skin.
Ew.
@Thought Criminal: Did you come up with a Whitehead name-related joke by yourself comrade, or did your supervisor have to forward you the link? Tell them they need to improve the quality of their trolls.
@Thought Criminal: Like a blackhead only uglier??
@Harry Whitehead: I wish I could take credit for writing the dictionary, but I don’t think anyone would believe me.
@Dessie Deratta: Nah more like a Putinbot. Noticeable from a mile off and full of crap once you try squeezing it.
@Thought Criminal: Pity you couldn’t take credit for your own lack of imagination instead. Making fun of my name? Even at school it came across as old-hat by the time we reached 10.
@Harry Whitehead: Good to see your still in touch with your inner child, pretending that people who disagree with you are foreign intelligence operatives. It must bring a lot of excitement to your otherwise meaningless life.
@Thought Criminal: Who said anything about foreign intelligence operatives? You’re just a nasty little troll with delusions of importance.
@Harry Whitehead: “Nah more like a Putinbot. Noticeable from a mile off and full of crap once you try squeezing it.”
So, like a FFGbot only not as soft and pustulent?
@Harry Whitehead: You did, you delusional little scamp.
@Thought Criminal: Errm…no I didn’t. Try again, comrade.
@Dessie Deratta: What the hell’s an ‘FFG’ bot? Bit of a covfefe moment?
@Harry Whitehead: It’s a contraction of FF and FG, Mr. infected sebaceous gland. What do you mean by “Putinbot”, then? Do you even know?
@Thought Criminal: Putinbot – an Internet troll who posts endless whataboutery, pro-Kremlin propaganda, deflects arguments and tries to sow division on public forums. Are you that thick you need to ask?
@Thought Criminal: Do you even know what your username and avatar relate to meanwhile? They were created by a man critical of the exact sort of regime whose arse you’re licking with disturbing relish.
@Harry Whitehead: Are you so arrogant as to assume that I don’t know the meaning of my choice of name and avatar? The EU is closer to the system Orwell described than present day Russia is. The EU even has useful idiots like you acting as thought police.
@Thought Criminal: I don’t assume comrade. I know. That you post such laughable tripe as the EU being closer to Orwell’s vision than modern-day Russia is ample evidence in itself. Either that or you’re just a very poor liar.
@neilo: The EU is democratic in name only. It is a defacto dictatorship.
@neilo: It’s easy. Two plus two equals five comrade. Didn’t you get the memo?
@Thought Criminal: In need of a JCB comrade? You can’t seem to dig that hole of yours any faster.
@Harry Whitehead: This, like a great many of the things you think you know, you are wrong about. Do you have any imaginary Nazis or hasbara trolls to fight the good fight against?
@Harry Whitehead: JCB are a weak western excavator.
@Thought Criminal: Probably on the same planet where the EU is a dictatorship. Back on Planet Earth meanwhile…
@Thought Criminal: ‘JCB a weak western excavator’ LMAO are you hearing yourself comrade?
@neilo: I suppose if Putin had lost, he could have got them to vote again until they got the right answer.
@Harry Whitehead: You’re a bit dim, aren’t you?
@neilo: Do you think the globalist elite are imaginary, Neil? I mean really, do you think that isn’t a thing?
@neilo: It didn’t work last night when you told me to shut up, it isn’t going to work tonight either. Nice attempt to smear me as an antisemite there too, you sneak.
@Harry Whitehead: “What the hell’s an ‘FFG’ bot? ”
You, of all people, should know!
@neilo: I was “bemoaning” the slaughter of innocent farmers. If you equate that with the end of apartheid, that says quite a lot about you.
@neilo: Who’s us?
@neilo: Tell me who “us” is first, I like to know who I’m talking to.
@neilo: 4chan never even crossed my mind but now that you’ve mentioned it makes perfect sense
@neilo: You can’t be in FG headquarters. I get told I’m there all the time by other people who I disagree with.
@Harry Whitehead: I bet a lot of things never cross your mind.
@neilo: The reptilians, Neil, who else.
@neilo: Don’t be such a cuck, Neil.
@neilo: I’ll talk to you tomorrow night man, take it easy :)
@Dessie Deratta: the Russian bots are active tonight. You do know that we don’t wish to be under Russian rule, don’t you ?
@Simon: Russian bots say many weird things
@Dessie Deratta: dont think they would waste their time, we are a minnow in a huge pool
@Michael Farrelly: “the Russian bots are active tonight”
Didn’t notice.
But the FFGbots are hyperactive tonight!
@Thought Criminal: he didn’t need to get them to vote again as he put the opposing politicians in jail. That’s how he got 75%
@Dessie Deratta: you didn’t notice. Don’t you recognize your comrades comrade ?
@Michael Farrelly: I have no comrades comrade.
@neilo: Tin to the foil. Did you even look at the other candidates? I’m guessing not (fyi they weren’t a competition for Putin). But of course go ahead and make these statements without proof. Don’t forget the Putin is “most extremely highly likely” ________.
@Michael Farrelly: You don’t want to be under “Russian rule”? Hope US and UK rule suits you then. Better hope that we don’t find a lot of oil here though (yeah I know that it’s unlikely). We’ve all seen what has happened to those countries.
US and Britain*
Russia, China, North Korea, Iran and neighbouring countries should form the the West Pacific Treaty Organisation and sever all links with the crumbling West.
Leave the debt saturated West, the illegal state and and it’s Wahhabi friend due to oil money state collapse by itself.
@Ranty McCrank: maybe you could do us a favour and go live there .
@Ranty McCrank: ___ Was the chemist closed when you went for your meds?
@Ranty McCrank: well know quite well what happens when you through out Rochschild controlled banks!! you are labeled by the west as a “rogue” nation.
@Ranty McCrank: The Chinese dislike the Russians as much as they do the West. And they only tolerate the North Koreans to avoid a mass exodus of refugees into China and use NK as a barrier State.
@Pat Ryan: “maybe you could do us a favour and go live there”
A much greater favour to far more people would be for YOU to go to your spiritual homeland – the crumbling USA.
Ireland could stay out of FFG induced wars as few 200,000 of you left.
@Mick Jordan: Nah. That’s wishful thinking that is passed as “analysis” in the Western MSM.
Wherever they stood 20 years ago the “dual-containment” attempt by NATO of Russia/China is making as close as any two NATO members.
And the Iranians and others are being brought into the fold in the same way Israel is embraced by the West.
Won’t end well unless the Pentagon & Allies realise that multi-polarity means they simply don’t get to set the rules anymore.
@Ranty McCrank: *CANNED LAUGHTER*
@noBankAccBertie: Oh yes, it’s all to do with the Rothschilds, the Iluminati and the Lizard people. Nothing whatsoever to do with the prison camps, the mass executions, the kidnappings, the rigged elections (or Presidencies for Life), the famines, the blackouts, the censorship…
@Harry Whitehead: that sounds just like the CIA operational handbook
@Ranty McCrank: where do you live Ranty ? Serious question
@Michael Farrelly: why do you want to know that? So you can infect him with salmonella as well?
@Michael Farrelly: I just reported your accusation. I am asking for an apology from you in very short order. Otherwise I will escalate to civil and legal.
@Cal Mooney: yup away you go. You don’t have a leg to stand on. I’ll forward the quote to them myself
@Ranty McCrank: Have some of that nerve agent…you’ll feel at home.
Big question mark over what type or kind of deadly nerve agent was used.(if any) now that Skripal’s daughter is now recovering.
@Patrick Burke: Indeed…wasn’t Novowhatsit supposed to be 100 times more deadly than Sarin Gas?
That lady must have healing powers like The Terminator!
@Dessie Deratta: Or maybe Porton Down had the antidote to their stash of Novichok handily ready….
@Patrick Burke: Oh, so you’re an expert in nerve agents?
@Patrick Burke: Moon of Alabama bloggers are suggesting good ole fashioned induced food poisoning, it appears OPCW could take blood samples, and since it took three weeks, with constant Russian pressure, to have the OPCW involved, her resurrection seems politic.
@Patrick Burke: Some Flat 7-Up did the trick
Like I said the night the news of this supposed assasination attempt, you can’t trust the British or their media. They whipped every fool up into a frenzy including our Leo. If these guys get well, we have list possibly hundreds of millions in trade with Russia over another British false flag event. I hope we expel some Brits from their embassy to show solidarity and remorse to the Russians.
@Cal Mooney: we event have the pretext of the Brits refusing to hand over vital evidence in relation to the Dublin Monaghan slaughter. The Brits ordered, trained and provided cover to their agents to carry it out. Sounds like a reasonable response and would limit the political diplomatic and possible economic fallout from a very bad decision made by FG.
@Cal Mooney: Who exactly is ‘we’ Wally? Ireland? Sounds as though you’ve sold your grandkids’ souls to the FSB. You speak no more for Ireland than I do.
@Harry Whitehead: Eh…actually he does, if the polls are accurate.
@Dessie Deratta: What, the polls which asked if Ireland should ‘expel de British diplomats’?
@Harry Whitehead: yes! But you don’t like facts. You still spout your Russia is to blame lies. Even with all the facts coming out that show the Brits lied from the start on this event. Your British embassy check must be worth it?
@Cal Mooney: Russia is to blame. There is no doubt. The governments of western democracies don’t expel diplomats from a large nuclear power unless there is overwhelming evidence. Your nonsense doesn’t wash with anyone.
overwhelming evidence of a salmonella meal? Why is the media not allowed to interview the policeman released from hospital earlier this week that was supposedly on deaths door 7 days earlier.The UK keeps spouting on about press freedom, but this case shows the Brits for what they really are.they did exactly the same after Bloody Sunday.
@Cal Mooney: How salty is Putin’s ballsack?
@Cal Mooney: Not to mention consultant from a hospital who treated them all and went on record saying that their symptoms are not consistent with nerve agent poisoning.
The longer this drags the more stupid they look.
Hardly expected any other type of retaliation!
@Paddy: Who is the bigger loser. Russia running at 160 spies or the US at 60.
@Mick Jordan: That’s why I was saying they should make an example of Ireland, Luxembourg, Croatia and the other pathetic vassals of the EU/US.
To even up the numbers….5 each from the 20 micro-states showing “solidarity” with the EU/US would give an additional 100 or so.
Mr Russian Ambassador, are you listening? Go for it!
@Dessie Deratta: Wouldn’t it be easier for you to just send them your CV Dessie? ;)
@Honeybadger197: Nah…I’d never agree with anyone long enough to work for them – its the curse of having the gifts of deep insight and forensic triangulation.
Lucky for you, you clearly don’t have those problems!
@Dessie Deratta: All together now: self praise is no praise…
@Dessie Deratta: delusional at best!
@Honeybadger197: I think I’d clearly be the best judge of that, don’t you?
@Dessie Deratta: Apparently not, Dessie.
@Dessie Deratta: And if they did they would lose even more embassy staff. And so it would go on to a point where each and everyone one of their Embassies would if not closed altogether would end up with a skeleton staff. Where they would lose out in 26 countries and 2 organisations each of the Western countries would only lose out in one. So the West still wins. So by all means go ahead.
@Mick Jordan: Mick – the West hasn’t won anything since the invasion of Iraq.
That’s why the Western Establishment is pushing for economic war – a last desperate attempt to stem the rise of Asia.
Mr Putin is teaching us that such a policy may result in a REAL war….there will then be NO winners.
@Mick Jordan: wins what exactly?
@Dessie Deratta: “pathetic vassal states” LMAO is that you, Danielle Ryan? You really ought to stop copy n pasting from your own articles, it just comes across as incredibly lazy.
@JimmyMc: Mick and Teresa May compare the size of their manhood against putin every day. This ‘win’ is like a viagra for them. But it only lasts 12 hours and they go back to being the wrinkly nothings they were before. But at least they have the memory of it. Last gasp of a now gladly dead empire.
@Cal Mooney: You appear to have a deep understanding of post viagra shrinkage Cal. Whats the story with that?
@Dessie Deratta: Tractor production up 9000% comrade. Doubleplusgood.
@Honeybadger197: I guess having a flabby-chested midget of a boss with homophobic masculinity issues starts to rub off after a while.
@Harry Whitehead: Quality! And true I’d say.
@Harry Whitehead: You appear to be labouring under the notion that Russia is a Communist country.
Try to update your database – I’d expect a bot to at least be informed of events in 1992.
@Dessie Deratta: Try telling you boss that. He seems hell-bent on taking Russia back to the Golden Age of Stalin.
@Harry Whitehead: Unlike you, I don’t have a boss. Give my regards to Leo.
@Dessie Deratta: Nope, you just requoted ‘vassal states kf the EU’ for the sheer hell of it. Of course. Hey, whatever floats your boat…
@Harry Whitehead: The TRUTH floats my boat.
But then I’m not a FFGbot…..
@Honeybadger197: What about yourself, won’t ‘Strategic Communications Unit Members’ like you be looking for to spin somewhere else.
@Dessie Deratta: “Mr Putin is teaching us” That says it all and shows where your anti Western sentiments come from.
@Honeybadger197: he doesn’t have to Honey. He already works for him
@Michael Farrelly: ““Mr Putin is teaching us” That says it all and shows where your anti Western sentiments come from.”
Hmmm…my anti-Western Imperialism comes from my empathy with the Irish experience of British cultural and physical genocidal imperialism, ethnic cleansing and settler activity.
Even the Russian dabbled in this, but on nothing like the scale of the Anglo-West.
@Dessie Deratta: HAHAHAHAHAHA!
I take it your position wasn’t the one expired by the Irish government?
Muppet.
@Dessie Deratta: You managed to rifle feathers of every journal resident Russophobe present but it is rather futile.
Nothing goes through their irrational hate. These BoJo wannabe boyfriends will stop at nothing to earn their judas sterlings.
This is the first time in human history a person/living organism not only survived but recovered from a nerve agent! the symptoms are in the name! it degrades nerve tissue! in other words it destroys the nerve ending first and burns them out! correct me if im wrong but 60% of himan nerve endings are in the brain! this is not recocerable from! you cannot heal from this
@Jamie Mccabe: Yeah…it’s a miracle…courtesy of Our Lady of Porton Down.
This adds further convincing evidence that this whole Skripal incident was a joint UK-USA psy-op from the get go …http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/she-is-risen-last-act-of-novichok-drama-revealed-the-skripals-resurrection.html
Well that response is a shock. Not……
Feels a bit more like tit for tit the way it’s going.
And some say Leo is thick, but he was able to divert attention from the disaster that neoliberal FFG inflicted on for almost four days now. I wonder what he’ll have for us tomorrow.
That’s completely out of character from the US.
@Sean Conway: Well, they do have a madman at the helm who is busy appointing Dr Strangeloves to key War posts.
He is even scaring the neoliberals a bit.
And btw, neoliberal is to neocon as FF is to FG; merely different wings of the same Dodo.
@Dessie Deratta: I would have thought it was the other way around.
@Mick Jordan: Toss-up. Both parties have liberals and conservatives; but FF are more leftwing on economic issue…by a barely perceptible shade.
@Mick Jordan: you also thought the policeman and Yulia were as good as dead. See what thought got you.
@Cal Mooney: Was it not you that denied he was even hospital at all???
@Mick Jordan: that policeman was reported as being in a coma that night. Must have been an Easter miracle he was sent home less than a week later and ordered not to speak to the international press. It is impressive.
@Cal Mooney: I argued the next day that I didn’t believe he was sick. The fact that he was sent home from hospital so soon after being affected with the most deadly nerve agent known to mankind backs up my argument. You can continue to believe your handlers spin, but everyone in Ireland will wake up tomorrow and realise the people were told a pack of lies. I predicted that event too that night. Back then you called me and my partner Russian sympathisers. You told me I was only posting what I was posting because my partner was not Irish. You told me I was brainwashed because i did not agree with the British government’s public assessment if who carried out this bad curry attack. I hope you will apologize or at least have some shame.
We’d have nowhere to keep the prisoners of war our prisons are full
@john brown: __ The POWs will be given bail like everyone else :p
“Britain has said that it is highly likely that Russia was behind the attack “.
Reminds me of how sure Britain was Iraq had wmds…
For now we have a cold war. Where are we heading now? Let me remind here a fragment of an ancient vision: “And [the king of the north] will go back (to) his land with great wealth [1945. This detail indicated that Hitler will attack also the Soviet Union and will fight to the bitter end]; and his heart (will be) against the holy covenant [Soviet Union introduced state atheism and believers were repressed]; and will act [it means activity in the international arena]; and go back to his own land [1991-1993. The collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact. Russian troops returned to their country]. At the appointed time [he] will return back [it also means the breakup of the European Union and NATO. Many countries of the former Eastern block will return to a military alliance with Russia], and will enter into the south [this can be Georgia], but it will not be as the former [2008 - Georgia] or as the latter [Ukraine], for the dwellers of coastlands of Kittim [USA, in the beginning without Britain] will come against him, and he will be dejected, and will go back.” (Daniel 11:28-30a)
In 1882 British troops occupied Egypt. Great Britain then took the role of “the king of the south”. Around the same time, Russia expanded its influence in the region, which previously belonged to Seleucus I Nicator, and took the role of “the king of the north”. (Daniel 11:27)
@Ryszard Ewiak: Lotta that stuff on YouTube…Biblical prophesies.
The reality of Armageddon will be much more prosaic and much more fatal.
@Ryszard Ewiak: Nice mushrooms. Does the effect wear off in time to go to work?
Brilliant ! The 3 of you should be on the stage !
There is a lot to be said for due process.
Payback could be a bitch folks
@skinner: Nah don’t think so. LOL.
@Mick Jordan: are you still sticking with this being an attack with the most deadly nerve agent ever developed? Honestly, looks like you and your mates were given a bad script to run with.
@skinner: The Russians aren’t really in a position to get much payback. Russia needs spies in the west far more that the west needs spies in Russia. They only payback possible is some sort of a cyber attack. And they are doing that regularly anyway. So I doubt the western governments are too concerned.
@CrabaRev: The Russians “need” spies – they are an added extra.
The internet provides the Russians – and everyone else – with most of their intelligence on other countries.
@Dessie Deratta: Real intelligence is gathered on the ground. That’s why the Russians need real people in the west. And that’s why the expulsions hurt them.
@Dessie Deratta: the Brits still believe the fictional character names bond is the only real way to collect intelligence on the activities of other countries. That is why they thought placing car bombs in Dublin and other cities in our country is the way to win the fictional wars they fight against countries like ours. Today they have murder units killing civilians in countries like Syria and arm Jihadis like Al Qaida. They are a sick regime and need to be held to account.
@Cal Mooney: To be fair, the slaughter of Irish citizens by the Brits was effective.
Rather than expel British spies the Blueshirt Regime used the slaughter to introduce draconian legislation to attack those defending the people.
Leopards never change their spots it would seem.
Let’s hope the current Regime at the next election get what the Cosgrave/CC O’Brien illiberal authoritarians got in 1977.
@Dessie Deratta: @Cal Mooney: Wow guys! That’s some pretty cutting edge analysis, and insightful comment on the political situation on the island of Ireland in the 1970s. You are obviously two highly educated and intelligent guys. It’s always great to see well thought out considered posts
@CrabaRev: thanks, not often the Brits admit the crimes they carried out here.
@Cal Mooney:
And quick witted as well! You must be a very successful individual and very well respected in your community. I bet all your family are very proud of you. Its been an honour and a pleasure conversing with you. I say that with the utmost sincerity. This has probably never been said to you before: thanks for making the journal what it is today.
@CrabaRev: thanks and yes to all your suppositions. Very intuitive of you. Respect!
@CrabaRev:
“You are obviously two highly educated and intelligent guys.”
Thank you.
In my case this is manifestly true and, based on his comments, I’d well believe the same is true of Cal.
As for “well thought out considered posts” …what can I say?
When you know how to ride a bike it seems an amazing feat to those who can’t.
But trust me – you too can learn….
@Cal Mooney: I must be mistaken but wasn’t it the IRA that carry out the most attacks against the Irish people on this island over the last one hundred yrs . Over 16000 IEDs where detonated against the people of this island . https://irishpeaceprocess.blog/2018/01/18/ira-war-crimes-deliberate-murders-of-civilians/
@Tommy Whelan: no, again your facts are incorrect. But I am getting used to lies and false statistics from the Brits. The Brits still had control of t he South 100 years ago. They roamed the town’s and cities in their armoured trucks murdering people at will. That’s where the liine in the song “come out ya black and tans’ ca me from. That song mocked false facts too with “show your wife how you won medals down in Flanders and tell her how t he IRA made you run like hell away”. You would think the Brits might stop digging and hold off on their lies, but along come you and your mates to prove the British army will lie and kill for the simplest of issues. It’s why this Island despise their sick ilk.
@Cal Mooney: actually it’s republicans that have inflicted violence and terrorism against the people of this island . A bunch of criminal gangsters that attack our people and our country . The carried out punishment beatings and kneecap children . They recruited children to carry out their dirty work while poisoning their brains to hate . Their terrorism against this country make Black and Tans look like a bunch of school girls . The Brits didn’t kill and murder their own people like the RA has done to the people of this island . People like you attempting to excuse and justify their actions with romantic republican shite . https://irishpeaceprocess.blog/2018/01/10/ira-war-crimes-enlisting-children/
@Tommy Whelan: You are are wasting your time arguing with these guys. They know their stuff. “Come on ye Black and Tans” is one of the definitive treatises of the war of independence. If you ever attended one of the many Wolfe Tones’ lectures held through out the country over the years, you would be familiar with it. They (the Wolfe Tones) also argue, quite compellingly, that the Devil is actually not dead and is actually a current serving member of he UK armed forces. These guys (Cal & Dessie) are at a different intellectual level than most people.
Everyone spying on everyone… I’m still shocked the world is at its most tense time since the Cold War over a damn double agent rat…
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