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'They should be able to work longer if they wish': New anti-discrimination guidance on older workers

The IHREC has published new guidance for employers and employees to prevent discrimination of older workers.

THE IRISH HUMAN Rights and Equality Commission (IHREC) has published new guidance for employers and employers with the aim of ensuring that older workers who want to stay working are not discriminated against in Irish workplaces.

The chief commissioner of the IHREC Emily Logan said in a statement that the commission had “consistently highlighted concerns over age-related discrimination” in the workplace, and that many people who wished to work longer should be able to.

The guidance looks at how discrimination can often arise from the compulsory retirement of staff once they reach a particular age, and the offering of fixed-term contracts to workers over that age.

It said: “It should be stressed that both (a) the fixing of a compulsory retirement age, and (b) the offering of a fixed term contract to a person of the compulsory retirement age, require to be objectively justified.”

Acknowledging that objective justification is “complex”, the IHREC said that it can be difficult for both employers and employees to apply in practice.

“Employers should be in a position to provide concrete evidence that the offering of a fixed term contract… is rationally connected to the legitimate aim pursued,” it said.

The IHREC said that the need for these guidelines arose due to how both the private and public sector are currently facing the challenges that come with an aging workforce.

Last December, Minister for Finance Paschal Donohoe announced that the mandatory retirement age for civil servants was being changed from 65 to 70, so workers can work up to that age if they so choose.

The commission said that cases of age discrimination related to employment made up 14% of cases raised by members of the public under the Employment Equality Acts in 2017.

It added that it had provided legal assistance to people who have sought to continue working beyond their contractual retirement age.

Logan said: “We are now using the Commission’s powers to proactively present guidance to support both employees and employers in combating discrimination.

Many people now wish to continue to work for longer. They should be able to do so without being treated less favourably or subjected to discrimination.

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    Mute Christy McCarthy
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    Apr 30th 2018, 11:10 AM

    I fully support compulsory retirement. It provides employment opportunities for young people, getting new ideas etc. into companies. Older people in jobs for 40 to 50 years are so set in their ways and most are unwilling to change.

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    Mute Bat Daly
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    Apr 30th 2018, 12:06 PM

    @Christy McCarthy:
    Obviously, you’re in the “I’m alright Jack ” camp, probably with a nice pension and can afford to retire.
    Many can’t, especially if you were caught in your late forties in the last recession. Many people never recovered and are now in early sixties.

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    Mute Honeybee
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    Apr 30th 2018, 12:49 PM

    @Christy McCarthy: I take it Christy, life is good for you, and I sincerely hope it is, but this is not everyone’s position, why should age prevent the prospect of meeting the ability to provide for need, so many struggle with hidden poverty, forced unemployment will only add to this and you are wrong in putting older people in a collective ‘set in their ways and unwilling to change’, a recent study showed the reason most people resist change in an organisation is that change is badly managed at management level, so before you make assumptions, know the facts ,perhaps there is a new reality to ‘old’ age

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    Mute Sam Alexander
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    Apr 30th 2018, 1:40 PM

    @Christy McCarthy:
    The more people, irrespective of age, in productive employment the better it is for the economy. Young people might have new ideas but not always sencible or workable.

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    Mute Terry Tibbs
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    Apr 30th 2018, 2:02 PM

    @Christy McCarthy:
    unwilling to change?… stupid talk. Older people are the ones that look for change in work. I work in a large multinational were some of the workforce are retiring this year, and they don’t want to. Those “older” people at least wont be ringing in sick on a Monday or messing about in work acting the fools causing accidents. I’ve have a bunch of older people in before a lot of the younger ones with their FB profiles..

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    Mute Anthony newey
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    Apr 30th 2018, 8:36 PM

    @Christy McCarthy: 60 is the new 40 or haven’t you heard ?

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    Mute Alan Currie
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    May 4th 2018, 6:37 AM

    @Christy McCarthy: the human race is on a quest for immortality and when that happens there will be no retirement age. However jobs are unlikely anyway as they are already being replaced by AI at an alarming rate. What will humans do then?

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    Apr 30th 2018, 10:52 AM

    A work ethic is hopefully what we are all proud of. Living longer and healthier allows us all to work for as long as we wish to. We will all know when it’s time to rest up but shouldn’t be pushed in to retiring from any job you have that your still capable of. Reducing hours by choice could be feasible. Age should not be a barrier to anything. Don’t disarm our older older generations their experiences is an asset !

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    Mute Jointheclubtoo
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    Apr 30th 2018, 11:41 AM

    @smudge: ‘Age should not be a barrier to anything’ Tell that to Mother Nature. I’m sure sites will be now be clogged with 70yr old plus bocklayers and labourers, or maybe not.

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    Apr 30th 2018, 2:25 PM

    @smudge:
    I agree with the sentiment, my own father worked until 77 but then I also know of a situation where someone who is 70 and doing his original job part time but doesn’t realise he is having difficulties. I difficult conversation with management is coming.

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    Apr 30th 2018, 10:19 AM

    Going on family history, my estimated expiry date is early to mid sixties, and it is an assault on my human rights that anyone should be allowed to be employed up to age 70.

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    Apr 30th 2018, 10:36 AM

    @Martello Mulligan: Maybe I’m not reading you correctly but that sounds a bit selfish.??

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    Mute William Grogan
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    Apr 30th 2018, 10:44 AM

    @Martello Mulligan: If a lot of your family died that young they must have smoked. So don’t smoke.

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    Apr 30th 2018, 11:00 AM

    @William Grogan: That is a wild assumption. Lots of illnesses are genetic

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    Apr 30th 2018, 11:51 AM

    @RJ.Fallon: It sounds ridiculous to be honest, how does a particular families life/death expectation impact all other individuals in a stated age range in employment, I take it Martello thinks they have no human rights.

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    Apr 30th 2018, 11:35 AM

    Think the ‘work longer if they wish’ part of this is largely misleading. People who ‘retire’ usually continue to work in some capacity paid or otherwise – housework, cooking, gardening, childcare etc so getting into a flap about the right to work beyond a certain age is missing the point. The real issue facing people in the future will the scenario where people will have no choice but to work beyond retirement age. Does anyone seriously think that Ireland’s generation rent will be able to afford to pay spiralling rents on a pension? Given our demographics, there’s a big question mark over whether there will be enough funds to pay pensions in 30-40 years time so this ‘right to work’ should really be about the ‘need to work’ beyond retirement.

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    Mute Kerrie Roche
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    Apr 30th 2018, 9:53 AM

    My Mum was still working up to last year at age 74 only reason stopped was because boutique closed down. She even got another Job in new one but her pay and hours where a disgrace so she did not take the Job

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    Apr 30th 2018, 12:03 PM

    @Kerrie Roche:
    Good for her. Great to see but older people are treated poorly by society in general so I’m not surprised at the derisory pay and conditions
    Some people need and want to work for the sake of sanity alone and both the young AND old are exploited in that regard by some employers.

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    Apr 30th 2018, 1:57 PM

    @Bat Daly: she is an amazing woman, even went to slane last year to guns and roses

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    Mute Dorothy Giselsson
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    Apr 30th 2018, 12:28 PM

    It’s great that we oldies should have the chance to stay working longer but it’s also a bit selfish. It isn’t giving younger people a chance to move up. Young people need decent jobs to support their young families, us oldies have been there and done that and honestly I think they should be thinking of giving younger employees a chance and opt for part time work so they can ease themselves into retirement.

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    Mute Lydia McLoughlin
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    Apr 30th 2018, 3:42 PM

    @Dorothy Giselsson: agreed. I also think that its wrong to force people to have to work until they are 67/68 – by the time I can claim my pension I’ll be 70!! Not all jobs are suitable for the elderly to continue to work but now people are being forced to work until these ages as they won’t get their pension! I agree as you say that perhaps there should be the option to work part time and ease into retirement but part pension should be paid in this instance. A disgrace our politicians can claim their multiple pensions so early when the multitude cannot.

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    Apr 30th 2018, 6:55 PM

    I will be forced onto the dole later this year at 65, some cheek to call it retirement, people who retire get pension, I have to sign to job seekers the day after I stop work because of my birthday. Won’t pay my pension till I 66, 50 euros a week less is alot to lose and why???

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    May 1st 2018, 12:53 AM

    If you are retirement age and feel like working or maybe you have to then do there is plenty of healthy 60 and 70 year olds and it should be their choice

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    Mute Hugh Mc Donnell
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    May 2nd 2018, 3:30 AM

    Seen discrimination in a work place for staff that stay on after 65.Some are made move to a different shift and do a different job plus there now on a fixed term contract and don’t have any sick pay.

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