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'It's serial objecting to try and do a deal': The truth behind Irish forecourt planning rows

Petrol resellers regularly stall competitors’ expansion plans across the country with their objections.

IRISH FORECOURT OPERATORS are cutting behind-the-scenes deals with their rivals in order to resolve long-running planning rows, according to several industry insiders.

Recent Fora analysis highlighted that planning appeals nationwide have caused dozens of petrol station developments nationwide to be delayed and in some cases abandoned altogether.

All of the major forecourt operators have lodged numerous objections to local and national planning authorities against their rivals’ plans, causing disruption to the projects.

These large petrol station operators have also made numerous complaints about independent filling stations when these developments have been proposed near their own outlets.

A number of people who work for both large and independent petrol resellers in Ireland have told Fora about the tactics larger operators deploy to derail their rivals and the confidential deals cut to reach resolutions.

While there is nothing untoward about striking these agreements, smaller operators complain that serial objections from bigger firms can hinder their ability to compete in the close-fought retail fuel market.

All the industry figures spoke on condition of anonymity due to their sensitive positions in the industry and their involvement in past or current planning rows with competitors.

One source at a large forecourt operator told Fora that deals are often cut behind the scenes to end “commercially motivated” planning rows.

“If two particular fuel stations have objected to another, a deal might be done where they agree to withdraw their objections so they both get their respective developments through.”

Another industry source said different types of commercial arrangements, such as trading or cut-price leasing of fuel storage tanks at Irish ports, have also taken place.

“It’s serial objecting in order to try and do a deal, that’s what it is.”

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A planning consultant who has worked with forecourt operators told Fora that the disputes over petrol station developments have become “par for the course”.

“It’s the exact same with the retail and the likes of Tesco and Dunnes Stores objecting to Lidl and Aldi, it’s the exact same scenario.

“They all just protect their own patch and then get in a tit-for-tat situation, and it just escalates from there. It would be nice if everyone minded their own business, but that’s just the nature of it.”

Another industry source said developers now approach new forecourt projects with the mindset that appeals will undoubtedly be delayed.

“It’s a competitive process. You just need to accept it’s the fact. Developers now factor in for delays with these projects.

“The objections usually cause about a five-month delay, it’s not drastic. It’s just accepted that it will happen.”

A smaller operator in the forecourt sector said the delays mean they have to go “the long way round” if they want to expand their business.

“When you’re up against (any of the major operators), it’s automatically appealed to An Bord Pleanála, which means delays and possibly oral hearings.”

They added that this takes what should be a local issue out of the relevant authority’s hands and “makes a mockery of the local system”.

“It’s like Amazon, Uber and Google, the big ones keep getting bigger and it’s getting harder and harder for the independents to stay alive because they are so powerful.”

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Faulty planning system

A source at a larger fuel reseller said that they are forced to argue with local and national planning authorities regularly that a lot of objections they face are solely commercially motivated.

“With planning you can always find a complaint. Whether it is valid in terms of the eyes of the council is another matter. But it’s easy to find some issue to complain about.”

However, one source at a smaller forecourt operator said the waves of appeals don’t mean the system is in any way flawed.

“In general, third-party appeals are a good thing in my opinion. They are part of the checks and balances process and serve as a second round of assessment. The appeals lodged aren’t always outlandish.”

They added that a big problem they have with the system is the ability to withdraw appeals on a whim without citing a reason why.

“Sometimes appeals are withdrawn after a few weeks of being processed. Maybe a transaction takes place. That’s an issue the planning boards have to address. After a few weeks you shouldn’t be allowed to withdraw an appeal.”

Solution

Forecourt industry professionals who spoke to Fora said expediting the issue straight to the national planning board could be a solution to the problem.

Residential developers can bypass local authorities and lodge proposals for large housing developments directly with An Bord Pleanála, while large strategic infrastructure projects for electricity and transport are also dealt with by the national board.

One independent petrol reseller said the solution to the mountains of serial objections is not to take it out of local councils’ hands.

“If you take it out of the county council and local authority set up where does it go, An Bord Pleanála? There is nothing wrong with the county council setup in all fairness to them, nine times out of 10 they get it right.

“There is nothing wrong with legitimate objections based on fact but there is no deterrent for vexatious objectors. That’s a government issue that has to be addressed within national planning frameworks.”

Another small-scale petrol station operator said it’s too easy to lodge an appeal without any background check into who they are and their motivations.

“You should have to make clear a reason for an appeal. You shouldn’t be allowed to appeal from anywhere in the country and not have to set out your reason why.

“People lodge appeals sometimes and you think, ‘Who the hell are they?’”

None of the major fuel resellers provided a spokesperson or statement when contacted by Fora for this article.

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Written by Killian Woods and posted on Fora.ie

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    Apr 28th 2023, 7:00 AM

    Slava Ukraini.
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    Like the Nazi, russia is using terror, nothing else, because they can’t win.

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    @Yvon Queguiner: Which country lost 27 Million citizens defeating the Nazis?

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    Apr 28th 2023, 10:36 AM

    @Dave Grant: Yeah, 80 years ago. Now Russia has become the modern equivalent of the Nazis. Murder of civilians, including children. Forced deportations, denial of Ukranian citizenship or statehood, torture, looking to install a puppet regime. Looks like they learned a lot from the Nazis, or more reverted to type given their actions against their neighbours for the last 80 years.

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    @Dave Grant: I don’t think they lost them, the government knew exactly where they were sending them.

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    @Yvon Queguiner: Read a history book sometime, then you might not make such daft statements.

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    @Dave Grant: “Which country lost 27 Million citizens defeating the Nazis?”

    You mean, which country made a pact with Nazi Germany to carve up Poland and only fought Nazi Germany when Germany invaded them?

    Absolutely astonishing how anyone thinks Russia was some moral force in WW2. They fought out of necessity. Not for any other reason.

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    @Dave Grant: Stalin was responsible for the deaths of 20 million Russians.

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    @Dave Grant: 1. It was USSR which was formed from 15 now independent states including Russia. 2.USSR started the WW2 as NAZI Ally, and on 23.08.1939 signed Molotov–Ribbentrop pact. USSR attacked Poland together with NAZI Germany and killed. Exactly like current Russia, USSR did not allowed red cross to inspect captured Polish soldiers and thousands died in captivity as well as were executed. 3. Stalin was exactly same bloody dictator as Hitler. 4. Out of those 27 millions citizens you are talking 6.850 000 were Ukrainians Russia now is killing now. Ukraine lost 16.3% of the entire population and had 2d after Belarus highest civilian losses per capita. Russia lost 12.7% of population.

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    @Thomas Meaney: You’re a hero of the Ukrainian-Russian war, for your brave actions in using Google Translate.

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    @Crafty Bodger: You have such a deep understanding of the geopolitical situation.

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    @west awake: Thanks! But back to you’re bad taste in fellas. Is it an “issues” thing? Only asking because I think it’s relevant to know why you blindly support Putin. Sorry if it’s personal and you don’t have to answer.

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    Can’t wait for Trump to be re-elected, he’ll stop the war. Never would’ve started on his watch. At least thats what he claims.

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    @Eamon: and will welcome his paymaster putin into Kiev. It could be that putin was banking on trump getting a second term, but the American voter was a bit more clever than usual and messed up putins plan….and economy.

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    @Paul Furey: Putin was absolutely hoping Trump would get a second term. And Trump would have done everything to prevent NATO and the US from providing aid. He repeatedly floated leaving NATO prior to the election.

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    @Eamon: You mean the same Trump with withheld aid from Ukraine unless Zelenskyy went along with Trump’s conspiracies to try attack his political rivals?

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    @Brian Boru: That’s it, even Sky are reporting the truth now. If this so-called offensive fails, then it’s all over. What a waste of life and resources.

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    @Stephen Deegan: They must be worried if they are searching Sky News to validate their arguments. Apparently, main stream media DOES tell the truth if it suits them. Have to say, I’m shocked. I thought they were guys of principle and conviction. Turns out they switch and change their views depending on which way the wind is blowing. Imagine quoting sky news and still thinking you have integrity. Smh

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    @west awake: waste of life and resoures trying to save your own country from being invaded? Sure… should have done that in WWII and not tried to fight the Nazis, it was a waste of life and resources.

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    @west awake: Did Sky News tell you that?

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    @Stephen Deegan: Is that your gut feeling?

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    @west awake: you are such a tw@t! Do you actually believe the stuff you post or are you just a sad little troll? I used to think you were a bot, then I thought, nah he’s real but clearly uneducated and heartless, supporting Putins massacre of men women and children. Now I think no one can be do dumb as to actually believe the stuff you post so either you’re paid by Russian Nazis or just a sad little troll. If you are real and actually believe what you write a would seriously worry about the people around you because you’re a psychopath. Either way im done with you and blocking you. You’re not worth any more of my time

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    Apr 28th 2023, 10:42 AM

    Sudan conflict , prototype for next biological war putin or Russia one of the shareholders , the other side United statand UK. Dragging rest ot the globe to New level of dogs fight .120 000 sudanese militia soldiers with flip flop and daily income less than 2 euro, driving landcrusier cost 60k, carrying a Russian weapon cost 40k, fighting under vagnner instructions, 3 days ago WHO warn from biological leak from one of sudan labs , convince me how come a country consider poorest nations in the world holding kind of this research labs ?
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    @ibrahim Sudane: Sudanese, Ukranian and Russian people, ultimately.

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    And still they say that they don’t target civilians.

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    Absolute shower of effers, Slava Ukrainia

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    Apr 28th 2023, 9:43 PM

    A special international dispensation for the execution of Russian war criminals on a pay per view event with the funds raised going to the rebuilding of Ukraine. All children over the age of 12 to watch with a sincere explanation of what these hateful humans have done prior to the drop. Sounds Orwellian? I don’t care. I sincerely want to see putin and lavrov with their tongues lolling. History doesn’t work anymore obviously, time for something slightly more medieval.

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    Apr 28th 2023, 11:18 PM

    A lot of invective in this discussion tonight!

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