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Children's Minister Katherine Zappone.

Poll: Should adopted people be allowed access their full birth information?

The issue of adoption rights has been to the forefront in recent days.

THE ISSUE OF adoption rights has been to the forefront in recent days after it was revealed that at least 126 children adopted from St Patrick’s Guild in Dublin were incorrectly registered as the biological children of their adoptive parents.

The revelations have reignited a debate on the rights afforded to people who were adopted, including the right to access their full birth records.

There have been multiple calls for the fast-tracking of the Adoption (Information and Tracing) Bill 2016 through the Oireachtas.

Among the Bills many provisions, it allows adoptees the legal right to secure information about their adoptions. It also gives them a statutory right to access to their birth certificate.

The Bill has been stalled amid concerns over the right to privacy of people involved in the adoption process, but Children’s Minister Katherine Zappone has said she hopes for the Bill to be enacted “by the end of the year”.

But what do you think?

Today we’re asking, Should adopted people be allowed access their full birth information?


Poll Results:

Yes (10132)
No (852)
Don't know (561)

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    Mute Martin Flood
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    Jul 4th 2017, 6:17 AM

    These perpetrators are, literally, below the status of animals. But what will anyone do about it? Oh yes… what’s the flag of South Sudan so I can put superimpose it on my Facebook profile picture? There, that’s done, we can all sleep again tonight.

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    Mute Eamonn Sheen
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    Jul 4th 2017, 7:28 AM

    @Martin Flood: Don’t forget the trendy hash tag #jesuissouthsudan

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    Jul 4th 2017, 2:18 PM

    @Martin Flood: what’s your suggestion Martin?

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    Mute Gerard Heery
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    Jul 4th 2017, 7:47 AM

    Africa seems to be in trouble everywhere ,they can’t all come to live in Europe .they need to sort it out themselves even if it takes a hundred years

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    Mute Quentin Moriarty
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    Jul 4th 2017, 8:35 AM

    @Gerard Heery: they are behind 100 years at present

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    Mute john g mcgrath
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    Jul 4th 2017, 8:48 AM

    @Quentin Moriarty: 300 years perhaps a programme of sterilisation would keep millions from going through a life of total misery!!!

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    Mute Neil Mcdonough
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    Jul 4th 2017, 9:49 AM

    @john g mcgrath: Yes, let’s stop poor people being born, then we wont have to share the wealth . . .

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    Mute Squarepeg01
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    Jul 4th 2017, 1:56 PM

    @Neil Mcdonough: what wealth? There us no wealth unless it’s created first. Africa is a drain on the rest of the world.

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    Mute Fabio Dillon
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    Jul 4th 2017, 5:04 PM

    @Gerard Heery: conflict in Africa since us Europeans started to scramble for their land centuries ago.

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    Mute Squarepeg01
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    Jul 4th 2017, 6:24 PM

    @Fabio Dillon: more pathological lefty guilt that is destroying our continent.

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    Mute Quentin Moriarty
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    Jul 4th 2017, 10:39 PM

    @Squarepeg01: it’s true Africa was carved up by the Europeans
    Gaddafi was trying to change the balance of power for those nations and look where it got him

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    Mute A H
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    Jul 5th 2017, 8:57 PM

    @Neil Mcdonough: oh for God’s sake grow up. It’s common sense if you’re poor you should stop at one or two not keep popping them out till your tits are at your knees. There’s only so many resources and if people regardless of wealth should cop on to that. What you’re proposing is everyone does exactly as they please and the rest of the world should pay for it. It sounds so infantile.

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    Mute Mohamed Elshafi
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    Jul 4th 2017, 8:35 AM

    Who supplies the arms used by the fighting parties??

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    Jul 4th 2017, 11:10 AM

    @Mohamed Elshafi:
    Yep, nailed it there. Billions are made by the immoral arms industry.

    At a international level, arms dealers/exporters and arm companies need to be brought to heel and charged for the crimes they facilate.

    Unfortunately, 2 chances of that happening…. F all and none. Depressing.

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    Mute billy Dorney
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    Jul 4th 2017, 7:51 AM

    About time Africans sorted their own shite out,outside intervention obviously doesn’t work

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    Jul 4th 2017, 8:13 AM

    @billy Dorney: in many cases, outside intervention has made Africa infinitely worse

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    Jul 4th 2017, 10:02 AM

    @billy Dorney: Don’t forget after been discussed sold into Disney for the new world, by both the British and stars the US. You forgot about that.

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    Mute Ossi Fritsche
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    Jul 4th 2017, 10:03 AM

    @Ossi Fritsche: not Disney, slavery…. Fracking autocorrect.

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    Jul 4th 2017, 2:11 PM

    @Ossi Fritsche: I think you’ll find the slave trade in South Sudan was run by Arabs and broken up by the British.

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    Jul 4th 2017, 3:49 PM

    @Ossi Fritsche: I think it was correct the first time Ossi.

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    Mute Malachi
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    Jul 4th 2017, 6:10 PM

    @billy Dorney: No. Clearly outside intervention is needed in certain circumstances.

    Would you say that not intervening in Rwanda where an appalling genocide was being carried out was the right thing to do?

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    Jul 4th 2017, 6:26 PM

    @Malachi: what kind of intervention? Troops on the ground? Irish soldiers at the quantities required?

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    Jul 6th 2017, 1:05 PM

    @Squarepeg01: anything that would’ve been needed to stop the wholesale barbarism that occurred in Rwanda would’ve been worth it.

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    Mute Terry Cahill
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    Jul 4th 2017, 8:40 AM

    Not a lot of sympathy coming from the breakfast tables this morning guys ! Don’t spread the butter and marmalade too thickly on your toast now … you might spill some on your nice clothes ! The people, women and children included , are starving to death and being tortured and killed or raped when they go looking for food for themselves and their families to stay alive , and what I see is throwaway comments like ” it’s time Africa sorted out it’s own problems.” Get a grip… and have a little think about this !

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    Jul 4th 2017, 9:11 AM

    @Terry Cahill:
    Well , nobody else can fix their problems except themselves… and running away to the eu is not the correct solution either . Get a grip and have alittle think about it

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    Mute Neil Mcdonough
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    Jul 4th 2017, 9:56 AM

    @Ollie O’Brien: Don’t forget that Africa was divided up and pillaged by European imperial powers, borders drawn to ensure ethnic divisions etc, etc. And to this day, western corporations ensure that that a minority benefit from their presence and the poor are left to fend for themselves. Europe doesn’t have the resources to feed it’s needs, where do you think we get them from and do you think it’s in our interest not to have control, even if it’s by economic power?
    Get a grip and have a little think about it . . .

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    Jul 4th 2017, 10:06 AM

    @Ollie O’Brien: this is not Africa’s problem but mostly caused by hundreds of years of colonization by European nations and now Africans want to migrate to Europe and whites say no.

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    Jul 4th 2017, 10:35 AM

    @Ossi Fritsche: moorish nations didnt have any meddling in africa then , no slave trade there. It aint our problem period

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    Jul 4th 2017, 12:45 PM

    @Neil Mcdonough: oh do %%%% off, there’s a good chap. Africa was tribal and feudal savagery before and after. What is notable is the lack of progress in parts of Africa compared to India, East Asia, South America etc. The almost complete absence of modern medical services other than those provided by western charity. It isn’t for the want of endless aid money.

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    Jul 4th 2017, 12:57 PM

    @Stu MacDuff: So did Europeans go there to fix it and bring our values yawn etc, or for something else? But the start of your comment indicates intelligent conversation is out of the question, and since when did people start saying ‘there’s a good chap’ in Ireland? So take your own advice . . .

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    Jul 4th 2017, 1:35 PM

    @Neil Mcdonough: take ur thumb out of ur rear end and loosen ur grip on ur front end and think about it a little more, now isnt that better, there a good little man

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    Jul 4th 2017, 1:45 PM

    @Ollie O’Brien: Good, well researched and erudite comment. Did you get your mammy to write it for you?

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    Jul 4th 2017, 1:54 PM

    @Neil Mcdonough: Neil, the US and other Western countries have been trying to impose an arms embargo and targeted sanctions through UN resolutions. Guess who is opposing the attempt to stop the conflict?

    Russia and China both hold vetos in the UNSC and both abstained on a resolution that would’ve helped end the conflict. Instead, the possible genocide continues unabated and it’s not the Western powers at fault for not intervening (like it was in Rwanda).

    To point out a history of colonialism first without recognising the major harm states like Russia and China are doing through their refusal to act in the present day seems very odd indeed.

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    Jul 5th 2017, 10:57 AM

    @Neil Mcdonough: nope your mother did afyer she clean herself up and made breakfast!
    Play the ball and keep mums out of it

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    Mute Jasun Ó Cearnaigh
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    Jul 4th 2017, 7:41 AM

    Eh thats nothing new in Africa a small bit of research will show the dozens of videos of the mobs taking out vigilante justice in the most savage ways! Kids and all joining in!

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    Jul 4th 2017, 8:08 AM

    It’s ok. The popes gonna pray for em.

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    Jul 4th 2017, 11:42 AM

    @Paul: This paradigm appears too often; not sure how we can do much more old boy. Apart from contributing to relief efforts…sermons often bring these efforts to my attention and I then contribute. It harms you not.

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    Mute Sophie Hanlon
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    Jul 4th 2017, 7:37 AM

    terrible situation with no obvious solution

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    Jul 4th 2017, 9:49 AM

    There are some amount of animals on this comments section. It’s no advertisement for civilisation or humanity

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    Mute Neil Mcdonough
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    Jul 4th 2017, 9:59 AM

    @Eóin: It’s the journal, what do you expect? People who think they were educated when all that they got was training to be a cog in the economic consumer wheel. Thinking for yourself is not encouraged.

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    Mute Philip O'Dowd
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    Jul 4th 2017, 12:17 PM

    Where is the international condemnation and coalition of forces waiting to help these people? Oh yeah, I forgot, theres no oil worth mentioning. Not enough for the powers that be to pretend they care about people suffering.

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    Mute Neil Mcdonough
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    Jul 4th 2017, 1:01 PM

    @Philip O’Dowd: No but we’re very concerned (yeah right) about human rights abuses by muslim dictators in oil rich countries, except the Saudis that is.

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    Mute Malachi
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    Jul 4th 2017, 2:03 PM

    @Neil Mcdonough: As I’ve said above, there has been a major effort to stop this horrific conflict at the UN – much to the displeasure of many here, it’s not the US perpetuating the conflict, but trying to stop it.

    Sadly, the great peacemakers in Putin’s Russia decided the people of South Sudan would be better served by continued mass murder and are happy to let the UN sit idly by.

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    Jul 4th 2017, 9:21 AM

    I’m sure the western world contribute to this in some way, shape, or form.

    Shocking stuff regardless tho.

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    Jul 4th 2017, 11:12 AM

    @Trevor W: Yep someone has got to make the billions in arms sales.

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    Jul 4th 2017, 12:48 PM

    @paddlingAlong: they are not fighting with long range missile systems and modern tanks and aircraft. This is on the ground, AK47 replicas, RPG, machetes. Often produced domestically.

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    Jul 4th 2017, 2:06 PM

    @Trevor W: The Western world are trying to stop the conflict, but haven’t been allowed to do so by the Eastern countries with a veto on the UN security council (Russia, China). You should do your research before blindly blaming the West for everything.

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    Jul 4th 2017, 7:56 AM

    You won’t see western countries go on about freedom and democracy, etc. when it comes to Africa and likes of Boko Haram. Hypocrites.

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    Jul 4th 2017, 10:08 AM

    @Alan: Alan your an idiot.

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    Jul 4th 2017, 12:46 PM

    @Ossi Fritsche: Irony isn’t your strong suit.

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    Mute Quentin Moriarty
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    Jul 4th 2017, 10:49 PM

    Most of the ills of present day Africa has been founded years before any Euro colonisation through clans and kings and it holds true today as in the conflict in Libya
    Those who govern the individual nations are inherently corrupt and not governing for the common good only themselves and cronies
    Much of the aid sent to the countries are channeled away from the people at a minimum via tariffs and taxes
    Some will eat like kings and be short sighted by not investing in infrastructure so the loop continues
    Short of the west outing the leaders which would be calamitous the problems will persist

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    Mute Alois Irlmaier
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    Jul 4th 2017, 11:47 PM

    @Quentin Moriarty: Who was it that said divide and conquer, many who raped Africa first stirred it up amongst the tribes to keep them fighting each other than those in charged?

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    Jul 4th 2017, 1:11 PM

    It’s funny when Irish people moan about people suffering from food insecurity/famine given our history.

    It must be so easy to tend your crops and support yourself when your farmland is now a warzone.

    Those bloody Africans must be just too lazy to help themselves or something.

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    Mute Louise Halpenny
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    Jul 4th 2017, 9:57 AM

    Put the price of your mochacino towards school fees for Equatorian children refugeed in North Uganda:
    IBAN: IE04ULSB98621510470517
    So they can learn how to help themselves

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    Mute El Psy Kongaroo
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    Jul 4th 2017, 3:24 PM

    This is all George Clooney’s fault. He created that failed state.

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    Jul 4th 2017, 5:13 PM

    And Louise O Neill gives out about rape culture in Ireland.

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    Mute M M Alabede
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    Jul 4th 2017, 6:11 PM

    African countries are been designed for corruption, by the colonial(s)… So! What do you expect…?

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    Jul 4th 2017, 11:46 PM

    It is cause by evil people, full stop. Just look at what a person does to another and all you have to ask is it good or evil and their actions are what they do as that is who they are?

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    Jul 6th 2017, 12:28 PM

    So extremely sad. Since school days we have given funds for the black babies in Africa and the problem seems now to be so much worse after nearly 40 years.

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