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Michael Noonan could find himself being handed another Budget document later this year. Julien Behal/PA Wire

Budget body says Ireland could need €400m mini-budget

The Irish Fiscal Advisory Council says the Budget’s projections for economic growth may have been too ambitious.

THE GOVERNMENT’S official budget think-tank has warned that Ireland may need a ‘mini-Budget’ later in this year, cutting spending and increasing taxes by up to €400 million, as economic growth falls short of initial expectations.

The Irish Fiscal Advisory Council’s assessment report for April, launched this morning, notes that the Budget’s expectations – that the Irish economy would grow by 1.3 per cent in 2012 – have been undercut by other forecasts.

In its report, the council says it “shares the emerging consensus that growth in 2012 will now be lower than was envisaged in Budget 2012″, though it added that it was difficult to tell, for now, how much the any budget shortfall might be.

Compared to the Budget’s forecast of 1.3 per cent, the Central Bank expects growth of 0.5 per cent, as do the European Commission and the International Monetary Fund.

The OECD suggests growth of 1.0 per cent – though its forecast was made in November, and is the oldest of all the forecasts – while the ESRI suggests growth of 0.9 per cent.

“Using Budget 2012 projections as a benchmark and assuming zero buffers, Council simulations indicate than additional discretionary adjustment of €0.4 billion would be required to achieve the [deficit] target of 8.6 per cent of GDP for 2012,” the report says.

Buffers

It adds, however, that these “buffers” could mean that while an extra ‘mini-Budget’ could be needed to implement these adjustments, a full €400 million of cuts and tax increases may not be needed for now.

Because higher expectations for growth lead to an overstatement in tax incomes, though, the council says Ireland should introduce an extra €2.8 billion in budget adjustments over the next three years, in order to ensure Ireland hits its deficit target of 3 per cent of GDP by 2015.

The next three Budgets had previously been expected to make €12.4 billion of combined tax increases and spending cuts, in order to meet the EU’s target by 2015, but the Council’s suggestion would bring this to €15.6 billion.

The report adds that there is “an unusually high degree of uncertainty surrounding Irish growth prospects”, this was largely due to external factors such as question marks over the economic recoveries in Europe and the United States.

However, the behavioural dynamics – of households, investors and financial institutions – in the ‘post-bubble’ Irish economy are quite some way from being understood at this stage.

Some time is likely to be required before the implications of these elements can be fully factored into a more solidly based assessment.

A further indication on whether a mini-Budget could be needed will come later today, when the government publishes its Exchequer returns for March.

The Department of Finance is expected to publish an interim document later this month in which it will revise its targets for economic growth, which could then include confirmation that a secondary Budget could be needed.

Read: State is overspending by €3,879 per person, according to TD’s sums

Previously: Moody’s: Irish growth to hit just 1 per cent next year

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    Mute Oisín O'Connor
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 3:49 PM

    This will make it safe enough for me and my family to get to the Phoenix Park by bike. Also, added bonus of more 24/7 bus lanes. The bus carries more people in and out of town than any other mode of transport so great to see that bus users won’t be stuck in long lines of car traffic, particularly on the South Quays.

    Councillors: give it your support! With some finer details to be resolved for safety of all road users.

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    Mute Fozz
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 3:57 PM

    @Oisín O’Connor: you seem to be of the fanciful opinion that private cars don’t drive in the bus lanes. Oh, if only we had a way to prevent that using cameras and penalty points…

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    Mute Dublin Cycling
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 4:03 PM

    @Oisín O’Connor: Glad this will be an improvement for you Oisín. We are supporting the proposed interim measures and hope to engage constructively with the city council to iron out some of the perceived wrinkles.

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    Mute William Kelly
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 4:19 PM

    @Fozz: and speeding through red lights.
    All these high cost traffic plans, reconstructing roundabouts, installing traffic control systems, but only spasmodic mobile van monitoring.
    Yet main junctions have camera surveillance for purely admin purposes.
    Can we not have buslane & traffic light cameras for enforcement installed on a rolling self financing programme.
    The vans seemingly only operate on accident blackspots,so enforcement only follows from tragedy.
    Better to enforce generally to prevent accidents.

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    Mute Justice Mickey
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 4:45 PM

    @Oisín O’Connor:
    As a motorist I fully welcome the lanes and wish you safe cycling.
    I am sure most motorists will see the safety benefit of the lanes and fully respect them, unfortunately there will always be the few.

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    Mute Marc Power
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 3:40 PM

    It’s great that dublins bicycle route network is improving. Isn’t it time to start building a metro. ? Great way to get a lot of traffic off the roads ands perhaps some of the lumbering, cumbersome busses

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    Mute Craic_a_tower
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 3:55 PM

    @Marc Power: a metro will cost way more. Require a lot more planning and design. Best way to reduce traffic is a congestion charge. Cars slow down the buses by driving and blocking bus lanes. I can bring you to a spot where cars block buses regularly.

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    Mute Marc Power
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 3:59 PM

    @Craic_a_tower: we need a metro. Everything costs. This should have been started 20 years ago. The found the money for all other infrastructure projects. It can be found for this badly needed piece of transport infrastructure in a rapidly growing city.
    Not everyone can or wants to cycle. Not all car drivers block bus lanes. Some do. Doesn’t change the fact that we need a metro

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    Mute Craic_a_tower
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 4:05 PM

    @Marc Power: we don’t need a metro. It would be nice to have. Not everybody has to use a car and they don’t need to drive into the city centre or through it. Finish the ring around the city first. Metros are huge luxuries most started when life was cheap and safety didn’t matter.

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    Mute Oisín O'Connor
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 4:28 PM

    @Marc Power: A metro is being planned for the Airport. They’re already doing some of the work on it. The Metro will cost (if I recall correctly) around €4,000,000,000. The proposal in this article is for €800,000, a lot of which will involve upgrades for pedestrians (new crossings) and bus users (new bus lanes).

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    Mar 2nd 2020, 4:28 PM

    @Craic_a_tower: sorry but that’s a very simplistic way of thinking about a complicated situation. Many cities in far poorer and less hospitable parts of the world build and operate successful metro systems. Over 75 of people in Dublin commute by car for various reasons. For me the best reason to own a car in Dublin is Dublin bus. Dublin is a great city but no more special than the rest of the world. Really not sure what your last sentence was meant to say but all the metros I’ve used around the world seemed safe, modern and well designed. The thing that’s missing in Dublin is imagination and willingness

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    Mar 2nd 2020, 4:37 PM

    @Marc Power: if you were hit with a congestion charge you would probably change your ways. Metros are a luxury when adding them to historical cities. Most cities don’t have them. Outside of London name all the metros in the UK

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    Mute Craic_a_tower
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 4:59 PM

    @Marc Power: btw below 30% of commuters travel by private car in Dublin.

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    Mar 2nd 2020, 5:09 PM

    @Craic_a_tower: I lived in London for many years. London has a congestion charge but it also has a metro and a great bus system.

    https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-cp6ci/p6cii/p6mtw/

    Not everyone wants to cycle our can cycle. Filling congested streets with buses is not the answer. A congestion charge would help but not solve the traffic problem in Dublin

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    Mar 2nd 2020, 5:11 PM

    @Oisín O’Connor: lol thanks you made me laugh. Yes the famous metro link that’s been passed around for 25 years. In that time London finished the docklands light rail… the jubilee line extension and most of crossrail. Here nothing… just constant waffling

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    Mar 2nd 2020, 6:03 PM

    @Craic_a_tower: Newsflash the city has ground to a halt what planet are yo on?, a metro is now have critical piece of infrastructure…..christ only in Ireland would you hear such nonsense lol.

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    Mar 2nd 2020, 6:36 PM

    @Peter Hughes: if you think the city has ground to a halt you are going to be very unhappy when it gets worse. I lived in London for a while too and it has worse congestion here even with metro and congestion charges

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    Mute Marc Power
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 9:15 PM

    @Craic_a_tower: we need a metro im Dublin. Not nonsensical whinging about cost when the cost of doing nothing is far greater in the long term

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    Mar 2nd 2020, 3:50 PM

    I hope the councillors vote this through this evening – it’s far from perfect but the alternative is the existing very dangerous infrastructure for people cycling. It’s a step along the way to safer conditions and should be supported

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    Mute Stephen McManus
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 4:18 PM

    I tried on two occasions to cycle with kids from near O’Connell Bridge to the Phoenix Park on weekends. Usually I find safe ways for these trips, even if taking a longer route, but there was no option for this route, it was a terrible experience. I can only imagine the horror of doing this daily as a commuting route.
    I wholeheartedly welcome this provisional solution and congratulate Owen Keegan for the initiative. It shows concern for people who commute by bike and also makes the Phoenix Park more accessible for people who cycle.

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    Mute Craic_a_tower
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 4:21 PM

    @Stephen McManus: I would never recommend doing that cycle with a child.

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    Mar 2nd 2020, 4:35 PM

    @Craic_a_tower: I wouldn’t recommend it either, but my kids are well trained and, as I said, they did it. It wasn’t comfortable or fun, but it was done as safely as an adult would/could.

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    Mar 2nd 2020, 5:02 PM

    @Stephen McManus: it doesn’t matter how safe you are at cycling with vehicles speeding and driving too close. The quays are particularly unsafe and I have to use part if them to get to work now for 7 years. The other options are worse. Never ever cycle the north circular road during rush hour

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    Mute Alan D
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 3:53 PM

    great to see improvements coming. not perfect but a well managed trial should help bridge the gap until the full build gets off to a good start

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    Mute Fozz
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 3:58 PM

    @Alan D: To be clear it’s not a trial. It’s an interim step until the CC grow a pair and take on the car-park owners and build proper segregated cycle infrastructure.

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    Mar 2nd 2020, 4:09 PM

    @Alan D: Dublin’s first cycle lane by St Pat’s college isn’t even segregated from the footpath and shared in parts. Nothing more permanent as temporary in this country.

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    Mute William Kelly
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 4:30 PM

    Cannot understand why everything has to be brought forward on the basis of some expensive consultancy report, when DCC have their own team of traffic engineers.
    The logic of this process is that we dont need directly employed engineers.
    Just put projects out for tender, get the consultants to assess & recommend, place contracts, survey & certify contract compliance.

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    Mute Craic_a_tower
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 3:43 PM

    My understanding of the route I take would mean it would very awkward to go left from the quays coming from the west. It would involve crossing three lanes of traffic when currently I don’t have to cross any. That doesn’t sound safer

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    Mute Stephen McManus
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 4:22 PM

    @Craic_a_tower: someone will have to cross lanes no matter where the cycling lanes are located. What really matters is the implementation.

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    Mar 2nd 2020, 4:43 PM

    @Stephen McManus: cars don’t have to cross that many lanes at present so this is an increase of needing to cross with a vulnerable road user to convenience car drivers. So in this case the implementation is worse than what is currently there while claiming to be safer.

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    Mute Justice Mickey
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 4:41 PM

    Fantastic news and well done, this will make cycling so much safer and it will attract more cycle traffic .
    I’m not a cyclist but I can see the danger they face.
    Unfortunately there are always idiots ( 2 & 4 + wheels and walking) but I genuinely hope this works and it’s a permanent feature.
    I remember when there was two way traffic on both sides of quays and the uproar when that was changed.
    So I’m sure my fellow motorists will give out about this.
    I am very much in favour of cycle lanes and fully respect them.
    Hopefully the move will greatly improve safety and maybe even attract tourism.
    Wishing safety and fun.

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    Mute Dave McCarrick
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 8:23 PM

    I wish DCC would address the dysfunctional section of bike lane between the Samuel Beckett Bridge and the East Link Bridge. It’s not dual lane two way, it’s jumps from dual lane to single lane. Cyclists going east have no bike lane in sections. There is loads of room to make it right too. It’s a Shane because they did a great job improving flow with the new pedestrian and cyclist bridge over the Royal Canal on North Wall Quay.

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    Mute Soeren Kuehling
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 5:42 PM

    hm, cycle lane to the right…what if you want to turn left? You get degraded to a pedestrian as usual. I can also already see the youth idiots cycling into the wrong direction and not budge causing those who do it right into the traffic lane for collision avoidance

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    Mute Moorooka Mick
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    Mar 2nd 2020, 9:27 PM

    IMO the Phoenix ParK should be the epicentre of biking in inner Dublin with designated bikeways connecting the park to the more highly populated areas; not to the CBD where few people live.

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