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Poverty 'There is a dominant narrative that seeks to blame people for their circumstances'

But the reality is choices are dramatically different for people living in poverty compared to those with access to resources, writes Dr Tricia Keilthy.

POVERTY IS A very real and pervasive issue that affects the lives of tens of thousands of people in Ireland today. The latest CSO figures show that over 780,000 people are living below the poverty line. Particularly stark is that there are now 70,000 more children growing up in consistent poverty when compared to 2008.

This is unacceptable in a rich country like Ireland. But poverty tends to be an issue that is pushed down the political agenda and attempts to work towards change can be undermined by unhelpful media narratives, stereotypes and misunderstandings about the issues.

There is a dominant narrative that seeks to blame people for their circumstances; the result of a history of poor choices. But the reality is choices are dramatically different for people living in poverty compared to those with access to resources.

Resources, be they financial, social, cultural or educational, give people the freedom to make real choices about their future. Poverty rarely allows you to plan for the future, as your thoughts are consumed by how you will make your budget stretch to the end of the week, or how you will put food on the table today.

What do we mean when we talk about poverty?

Relative poverty, which compares how people are faring relative to the society they live in, is the internationally recognised standard measure of poverty.

In Ireland, relative poverty is defined as having an income less than 60% of median income in the state or living on less than €237 per week. One problem with using this measure is that, during the recession when many people’s income decreased, rates of income poverty stayed the same, but that didn’t mean that those of the lowest incomes didn’t suffer or were actually any better off.

Deprivation

That’s why the second measure – deprivation – is also important as it indicates the number of basic essentials people are forced to go without such as heating, suitable clothing and nutritious food. During the crisis, deprivation increased by 75% for those on the lowest incomes but the rate has only fallen by 6% since 2013.

While these measures give us some sense of the scale of the issue, they don’t show how poverty is an exhausting and endless struggle to make ends meet. It is the stress of having to choose between whether to pay the rent, the electricity bill, or pay for food.

It is the daily worry about whether the car will break down or someone will get sick, and then deciding which necessity will have to be sacrificed to pay for an unexpected bill.

These measures also do not tell anything about the impact. Research is clear that poverty is one of the greatest threats to children’s well-being. Data from the nationally representative Growing up in Ireland study shows that experiences of poverty increases a child’s risk of poor educational outcomes, physical health, and social and emotional well-being.

We need to change the narrative and build support for change

There is a need to find better ways of articulating and communicating that people’s opportunities and choices are created or constrained by systemic and environmental factors. Your postcode, childhood experiences of (dis)advantage and the educational opportunities available to you all determine your later life outcomes.

By focusing the narrative on individuals and not on the structures and polices that create and perpetuate poverty, we create unnecessary divisions that are hurtful for all groups and communities in society.

Social and economic policies should be based on the belief that everyone should have equal rights and access to healthcare, social services, education and culture. This approach would provide the basis to address the structural barriers to quality employment such as low educational attainment, the lack of affordable housing and childcare, discrimination in the labour market and the issues of low paid and precarious work.

An adequate social protection floor that protects the unemployed and retired from undue hardship, that values caring work and that supports those who cannot access employment due to an illness or disability ensures people fulfils the basic human right of living with dignity.

Economic case

As well as the moral argument for addressing poverty, there is also the strong economic case. By investing in citizens through good quality public services that provide a pathway out of poverty, everyone benefits.

The OECD agrees that economic models which promote equality not only reduce inequalities in income and wealth, they also promote full employment, improve living standards for all, and contributes to economic growth.

Finally, and importantly, we need to include the voice of people who are experiencing poverty and marginalisation in decision making. Listening to real-life situations changes our attitudes and understanding of poverty.

This will make for a more inclusive and diverse national discourse on the type of Irish society we all want to live in.

Dr Tricia Keilthy is Head of Social Justice at St Vincent de Paul. SVP launch its Pre-Budget Submission ‘Paving a Pathway out of Poverty’ today.

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    Mute Joe Traynor
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    Jul 11th 2013, 6:53 AM

    What a complete waste of money, this is going to be a bonanza for dodgy fas trained web designers putting up lame websites for dog groomers and hairdressers. Any business that has a genuine online business model should invest in their own business. Instead of a grant why not a low interest loan?

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    Jul 11th 2013, 7:21 AM

    Joe, I have grown a business from 1 employee to 14 without any financial backing over the last few years, so I feel qualified to comment here. First off, I think this is an excellent idea – for a small business this would be a huge help. Businesses NEED to be on the web these days, but it does cost about 2500 for the most basic decent web presence (unless you are a web designer yourself). Small businesses don’t have that kind of money. It’s a vicious circle. You know you could increase sales (way more than 2500 per year) with a good web presence, but you don’t have the spare money to get one and the banks won’t lend it to you unless you are buying something tangible that they could repossess if they had to. Websites do not fall into this category.
    Second, there’s nothing wrong in Fas trained people. Whenever I hear people talking down FAS training, I know they have never employed anyone who has completed a fas course. It’s an unfounded prejudice with no basis in fact, you are merely quoting “bloke down the pub says…” and it doesn’t reflect well on you. I’ve employed 4 fas trained people and they are excellent.

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    Mute Andy Murray
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    Jul 11th 2013, 7:23 AM

    Having said all that, yes, I think the idea of a low cost loan, with a long repayment period is a fair compromise, though.

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    Jul 11th 2013, 7:32 AM

    I agree with most of your points Andy, but I think Joe is talking about FAS trained web designers. I am a web designer myself and I agree with him that a course in web design with FAS doesn’t make you a designer. You might learn how a website can be created, mostly with outdated software and techniques, but the design part is not taught. This results in pretty ugly bloated websites.

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    Jul 11th 2013, 9:16 AM

    IT Developers can not be got at the moment, lucky for them they are flat out if they are good.

    Good sentiment here but poor execution again. Grants are a joke. We need on the ground assistance, less red tape and a lowering of costs for doing business.

    This is like what FF did in the 90s &00s horsing out grants to build and worsened a “building bubble”. IT Developers will do as the builders did and jack up prices.

    I wonder if an IT lobby had anything to do with this decision??
    Oh I am getting very cynical about politics in this country.

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    Jul 11th 2013, 10:37 AM

    Andy I have what I believe to be a brilliant web based business idea but cannot secure funding to get it off the ground,as a man who seems to know about such things what would you recommend my next step to be? Thanks in advance.

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    Mute Darren Ó Ceallaigh
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    Jul 11th 2013, 3:21 PM

    John, I’m working on a few ideas online myself at the present with a business partner. There are ways of doing it cheap. Drop me an email if you’re interested, darrenoceall@gmail.com

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    Mute Paul Roche
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    Jul 12th 2013, 2:31 AM

    Use open source software, dip into your own pocket and start designing.

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    Mute Andy Murray
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    Jul 12th 2013, 6:49 AM

    John, try kickstarter. Crowd funding is really taking off. Either that or talk to enterprise Ireland about their hpsu (high potential start up) programme. Good luck.

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    Jul 11th 2013, 7:34 AM

    Why not cut real business costs for us like rates! If 2,500 was gone off my rates bill this year it would be a start! Government please start listening to small business’s, we are on our knees. Asking business’s who don’t have a shilling to spare to “match” any money invested by government is down right insulting at this moment in time, as we struggle daily to pay government induced costs. We need urgent incentives that mean something, not watery options like this were only a few will benefit!

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    Jul 11th 2013, 9:31 AM

    Lets face iy it looks better for Rabbitte to be seen givng out (taxpayers) money than cutting rates and sorting out restrictive rent contracts.

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    Mute Adam Hurley
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    Jul 11th 2013, 11:12 AM

    Your rates aren’t set by central government they’re set by your local authority.

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    Jul 11th 2013, 7:23 AM

    In the meantime at Enda’s breakfast table…eur 50 tax for every new domain plus we can create the mb tax, that works out at…

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    Mute John Thomas
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    Jul 11th 2013, 7:34 AM

    Once the money is handed over to a damn good web designer or developer then I think it’s a great idea for small business. Portfolio and good testimonials/refererrals can help you find the right developer or else It’s money down the drain.

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    Mute David S. Armstrong
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    Jul 11th 2013, 8:48 AM

    Seconded.

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    Jul 11th 2013, 9:25 AM

    People with MONEY to purchase products, thats what small business requires.

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    Jul 11th 2013, 1:53 PM

    A business owner that needs to be incentivised to get online, is not a business owner that should be in business.

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    Jul 11th 2013, 8:14 AM

    I just find it incredible that just 37pc of SME business in this country use the internet and now they are being subsidised by the taxpayers with a grant to do do,i have used it for years and im nearing 70,and would find life impossible without it, as would most people,as i say it just beggers belief.

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    Jul 11th 2013, 9:49 AM

    sPEND IT IMPROVING THE BROADBAND NETWORKS OUTSIDE OF DUBLIN, THEN MAYBE A BUSINESS CAN ACTUALLY GET ONLINE TO SET UP A WEBSITE!

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    Jul 11th 2013, 7:31 AM

    Super idea! Good move by the govt!

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    Jul 11th 2013, 9:22 AM

    You really must be stupid.

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    Jul 11th 2013, 9:33 AM

    Hey Brian,

    Take your negative comments and name calling some place else. If you have a counter suggestion on how the govt can assist small companies I would love to hear it.

    Name calling is for little boys.

    Good lad Brian.

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    Jul 11th 2013, 10:07 AM

    It is not name calling its an observational comment, Unlike your back Kenny and Co at all cost reductions contribution.

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    Jul 11th 2013, 10:49 AM

    Kenny has his major faults however this initiative is a great one. To think it is stupid is stupid, are you stupid?

    Actually you sentence does not make sense. It’s grammatically poor.

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    Jul 11th 2013, 12:26 PM

    You are correct the word “reductions” should have been “ridiculous”

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    Mute Niall Ó Dochartaigh
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    Jul 11th 2013, 5:24 PM

    No counter suggestion then Brian or are you just a negative person who points out faults and doesn’t contribute?

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    Jul 11th 2013, 9:59 AM

    The majority of SME’s are begging for cash flow. Free up cash to assist in this. And not thro the corrupt banking system. Companies like pay pal, visa etc take up to 6 months to forward payments to suppliers from
    On line sales. Where is the working capital for even 60 days coming from. No bank over drafts or credit facilities for established SME. What chance a new start venture have???

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    Jul 11th 2013, 9:07 AM

    Support for SME’s. Started a new business, promised before I came off the live register of a grant from my local development office. Went for grant to be told in April I may add that there was no funds left for that grant for the rest of the year. Disgraceful !!

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    Jul 11th 2013, 8:47 AM

    As initiatives go, it’s a step in the right direction, but there is a caveat – and this is not a complaint, but a genuine concern, which I hope will be yielded by even one SME business owner.

    I hope there is some vetting involved in sourcing the website designers and developers, before a lump sum is paid out. My fear is that a growing number of template-merchants and hack ‘designers’ will be running (if not sprinting) to cash in on this.

    So – please vet any third party based on portfolio, testimonials, ask for ‘links’ to previous work (and how these sites are doing on Google), and an outline of their working process, discuss website warranty etc

    A hint; if you receive offers of simply ‘x pages for x€’, this is selling on a template as a commodity, and ‘not’ an invested designer interested in finding a ‘solution’ for your business.

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    Jul 11th 2013, 8:44 AM

    Muppet

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