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A CORONER FOR Cork city this week warned against the dangers of steroid use at the inquest into the death of an 18-year-old boy.
Coroner Philip Comyn returned a verdict of death by misadventure in the case of Luke O’Brien, from Grange, Kilmallock, Co Limerick.
The verdict was returned after officials indicated that on the balance of probabilities Luke developed a swelling of the brain because of his usage of the steroid Stanozolol.
The coroner said that he had a duty to warn the public of the “significant health risks” associated with taking steroids.
“Most of these steroids are obtained illegally. You do not know what you are getting. People need to be told of this,” he said.
I hope people will become aware of the dangers of [these drugs] by Luke’s passing.
Steroid use
A number of indicators point towards the unregulated use of anabolic steroids rising in Ireland in recent years.
Each year for the past three years, the number of illegally obtained anabolic steroids seized has risen dramatically.
Last year, 449,411 dosage units of steroids were detained, compared to 109,006 in 2016 and 38,049 in 2015 – showing a rise in use.
The misuse of anabolic steroids has been linked to a range of side effects including cardiac disease, blood clots, headaches, depression, aggression, irritability and stomach pain.
In many cases, people are sourcing the drugs for performance enhancement but are either unaware or ignoring the dangers of taking the prescriptions without medical supervision.
Commenting earlier this year on the seizures, John Lynch, director of compliance with the Health Products Regulatory Authority (HPRA), said that it was “particularly concerned” with the rise in detentions of anabolic steroids, which pointed towards a “demand among some people for these highly potent prescription medicines”.
“The abuse and misuse of anabolic steroids can have serious consequences for the long-term health of the individuals who take them,” said Lynch.
We would urge anyone using illegally sourced anabolic steroids to stop doing so and to seek advice from their healthcare professional if they have any concerns about their health.
Culture
According to Paul Devine, a personal trainer and powerlifter based out of Active You gym in Drumcondra, use among people training in health and fitness has risen since he began training about 10 years ago.
“My best input on it would be that steroids aren’t just for people playing in the Olympics anymore – they’re more recreational,” said Devine.
“People who have trained for 20 years to get into the Olympics, then to get 5% better take steroids.
“Whereas now you see people training for a couple of months and they’re not seeing results fast enough, then they try to get 5% better from steroids.
It definitely ties into an impatience or a need for a fast track.
Devine said that use has definitely gone up but that in his view “you’d be hard pushed to find someone who admit they’re taking steroids”.
Devine competes in the Irish Drug Free Powerlifting Associations, which, unlike other competitions, tests competitors to ensure that they are not using drugs.
For Devine, steroid use can quickly become substance abuse, with a whole host of negative side effects attached to it.
In his view, there are multiple avenues and approaches to training and fitness that people should take before they even consider taking steroids.
“I think people are too quick to turn to steroids. I’ve been training for 10 years, I haven’t stalled on progress,” he said.
Steroids seem to me like a way to get people to that elite level, whereas most people won’t get anywhere near that. They’re not even close enough to maybe justify [taking steroids].
He said for many people, steroid use was being used as a “first push” when it shouldn’t be.
“Put in the hard work. There are so many other steps that you could take before you looked at your hormones,” he said.
“Is your diet right? Are you eating properly? Are you exercising? Is your programme good?
Are you actually doing all the other things before [doing] that?
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Could you do a story about about Muslim men who target under aged girls in England?
@Ladude: sushhhhhh, you can’t talk about that. Apparently you are racist or a bigot now. Best just sweep it under the carpet.
@Ladude: and Ireland
@Ladude: yeah stop talking about white men using their power to sexually abuse people. Only concentrate on immigrants and people of different colour. Sheesh.
@Deborah Behan: People of different colour? Different colour from whom? What colours? What’s your favourite colour?
@Deborah Behan: so Ignore crimes people of colour make because they are coloured? White men, black men, yellow men all use their power to abuse, it’s not just white people abusing Deborah.
@Deborah Behan: you can’t say sheesh either as it sounds like your saying Sheesh kabab and I’m sure you’ve upsetting someone there also
@Ladude: you mean like these:
http://www.thejournal.ie/sex-exploitation-newcastle-3537954-Aug2017/
http://www.thejournal.ie/labour-mp-resigns-rape-3549710-Aug2017/?r_dir_d=1
There are also a good few more, but you don’t want to find them, because it ruins your argument and agenda. Anyway, I am sure you would now like to castigate Spacey and others.
@Ladude: Awww bless…you do know that you can contact them directly with your inquiry ..
@Paul Fahey: yeah Paul I knew about them, why did you not ask me a question instead of assuming. There are much more stories that just that, sadly, like the Catholic church in the 50′s abuse in Islam is falling on deaf ears!! I’m more concerned what’s in my country than be too concerned about what’s happening in Hollywood!
@theysayimagirl: cool
@Ladude: Catholic Church in the 1950′s? Was still happening in the 90′s.
@KingBen: it’s been covered all over the UK media , Daily Mail probably the most anti Muslim racist rag you will read covered it !
@Cultural Marxist: its called an example marxist. we ignore Islam dirty side why?
@John Judd: how are they racist?
@John Judd: Yet again for extremely slow learners. Islam is not a race.
@John Judd: only after the fact. Nothing for the last 20 years. And even now Labour MPs wanting the victims to ‘shut up’ so as not to upset the minority communities.
@Ladude: You think sexual abuse is not happening in Ireland? That it’s just hollywood?
Much easier to let your lizard brain rule you and only care about the other tribes crimes when you should care about all crimes. You’ve just been shown that those stories are being covered, and you still seem outraged about them but you don’t seem as outraged by this kind of stuff, gee I wonder why that is?
Incidentally, “stories” you see on stormfront or fake news sites and reality are not one in the same, maybe they’re not covering some of the others because they don’t exist? Like the refugee rape story turned out in Germany? or maybe like the ones above they are being covered but you’re so blinded by racism you don’t see it.
@John Judd:
@Ryan Carroll: one question at a time ryan. What it’s it thar you want to know?
@Ryan Carroll: I don’t think you’re getting the point I’m making, I’m not saying this should not be reported about Hollywood! But when certain people on her are unable to handle the truth about Islam and what’s happening there, totally disregarding evidence. Unlike Kevin, and other Hollywood stars, a lot of Muslims have been found guilty of their actual crimes, in court!!
@Ladude: It’s been 12 hours and you have not told us what these news stories are, or explained what their religion has to do with them being pedos
@Ryan Carroll: sorry Ryan, I work 12 hour shifts you know.
@Ladude: You’ve posted a dozen times in the mean time, but still won’t get specific
You’re not even bronze as a troll
@Ryan Carroll: I posted a dozen times….and? And I’m not trolling actually. I had an argument with you before, you could not understand stand the difference between an accident and a terror attack.
@Ladude: and you wont explain what the hell you are talking about , what sexual assaults, it’s been 12 hour and you have yet to actually explain what you are talking about, what story is being ”ignored’
@David Carino: That’s so funny
@Ladude: About time that little item got some media exposure.
@Ryan Carroll: Ok, now that I have time. I am not a journalist , and I don’t get paid to be doing this sort of thing. and as you know , in most cases, got to do with children, both the child’s identity and the perpetrators identity are hidden!! http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/24-huddersfield-men-2-women-12787499 http://www.pmclauth.com/sentenced/Grooming-Gang-Statistics/Gangs-Jailed?widget=BASIC&start=101&limit=100 and nobody is saying , that just people that are Muslim alone just do this, why are people ignoring this is the point. By the way, most times, Muslims the law of sharia law, so lots unreported also!!
A decision made to give him the Spacey needs
@Alan McCartney: only 2 likes?come on lads its hilarious ffs.
@Alan McCartney: It was Keyser Söze he mad.
Accused of 30 year old assault, no evidence – already guilty.
When did we get to this position that all is needed is the accusation to be found guilty?
@B9xiRspG: he affectively admitted he did it. Now all the other stories about Spacey are coming out. It doesn’t appear to be a once of thing
@B9xiRspG: What was a 14 year old doing at a grown up party who was looking after him ?
@Kal Ipers: Well, he didn’t quite admit it, but thought out loud “Hmmmm, that DOES sound like something I would do if I was drunk…”
@B9xiRspG: so you don’t believe the victim? Why on earth would he make that up? And the flood gates are about to open.
@Gillian Weir Scully: Ah, the Hook defence!
@Deborah Behan: I believe in the law, I believe a person is innocent until proven guilty not the other way around
@Kal Ipers: he didn’t admit it, he stated he had no memory of it but gave an apology. But let’s not let facts get in the way
@Deborah Behan: why did the alleged victim not tell a police man? Now that would have been the correct thing to do.
@Deborah Behan: why would he make it up? Never said he did. I just believe a person needs to be found guilty before we burn them at the stake.
It’s not like we ever had false accusations before.
Maybe we should just wait for the proof first that’s all I’m saying
@Kal Ipers: Saying he doesn’t remember a drunken night 30 years ago is not the same as effectively admitting it. But punishing him his crime before it has been properly tried, is the rule of the mob, which you are comfortable enough with, it seems.
@Gillian Weir Scully:
Kevin Spacey apparently was not looking out for him . George Hook was in hot water a few weeks ago for suggesting that the victim shouldn’t have put herself in danger. You are suggesting that this 14 year old in some way put himself in danger by being at the party. It is true he should not have being there , the organizers and his parents were clearly neglectful. But that is no excuse for Kevin Spacey or anyone else to take advantage of a child.
@Deborah Behan: Hahahaha the man hater Behan. Still waiting for you to condemn Mary Coughlan and Dil Wickremasinghe for using rape as publicity for themselves?
@DaisyChainsaw: Another feminazi hypocrite!
@B9xiRspG: I said he “affectivelly” admitted it so thems are the facts. He has a very bad reputation and more is coming out. well known secret the same way George Michael being gay was.
@Kal Ipers: It’s Effectively
@Aine O Connor: not comparable to Hook as it looks likely there is a case against others in this case. But yes there is blame as to why a kid ended up there
@Kal Ipers: read his statement again, he didn’t remember it.
What bad rep? Just because he’s gay he must be bad?
@B9xiRspG: Child abuse is such a devastating crime that a “possibly guilty until found innocent” approach is needed. The need for this was exposed in the clerical and other abuse past that enabled further abuse while the legals argued.
@Gillian Weir Scully: ah yeah, blame the victim.
14 year olds don’t have constant parent supervision. What a dumb thing to say. Are you dumb?
@lavbeer: Perhaps it was fear at the time. He was only 14 back then. Not everyone has your undoubted courage.
@Gillian Weir Scully: careful now or you will be accused of blaming the victim, just like George Hook.
@B9xiRspG: he didn’t outright deny it, which is what you would do if you genuinely didn’t remember it happening. Then he attempts to divert the focus from the alleged assault by coming out as gay. It didn’t work. It made him look guilty. Why would anyone apologise for something they truly believed they didn’t do?
@B9xiRspG: Nothing to do with him being gay other than that influenced who he was inappropriate with. He has long had a reputation of getting drunk and hitting on people who rebuff him constantly. That is his bad reputation
@Johnny Bellew: then – who said anything about then? I mean now.
@lavbeer: Perhaps he was emboldened by others speaking out against sexual abuse?
@Tom Newnewman: what ?? possibly guilty until proven to be innocent is not good approach to truth or justice in any circumstances !! Such Nonsense
@lavbeer: ….and perhaps your brain is unable to comprehend that.
@Gillian Weir Scully: There was no actual party, he invited him TO a party then it seems there was none and he made the moves on him
Who “looks after” any 14 year old? They’re not toddlers no parent knows where they are 24/7
People don’t seem to get this, the reason people didn’t speak out for so long was because these people were so powerful and nobody would believe you, it’s coming out now because there is safety in numbers. If you breathed a word you’d be considered to be slandering a pillar of the community and your career would be over. Come on, use your logic, how many “pillars of the community”, pastors, preists, cops,journos have we seen end up being accused of this
Ask yourself which one is more likley, are all or most of these victims lying or is their a pattern here? where some people react a certain way sexually when they get into a position of power and decide to abuse it?
@Johnny Bellew: perhaps indeed ….
@Damien Wallanger: As I said if you knew you don’t grope 14 year olds would you say “i dont remember” or would you go f—-g ballistic and threaten to sue knowing you’d never do such a thing?
@DaisyChainsaw: and who would of thought ‘Hook Defence’ would have nothing to do with rugby!
Guilty until proven innocent by the sounds of it.
@Do the Bort man: great actor despite the allegations! Pity he’s tarnished his reputation
@Do the Bort man: If everyone else in America were to be held to the same standards as this Trump would have been removed from office months ago…
@Jeremiah A Craic: Pity his victim.
I think we can sleep at night knowing, Kevin won’t be golrooming our children , why is that we are not reporting, sexual crimes by certain religious group?
@Ladude: grooming
@Ladude: Great idea, let’s begin with the Catholic or Protestant churches systematic abuse and murder of children throughout the world? Given that they are the worst perpetrators.
@Ladude: golrooming sounds more sinister.
@nafoits: yes, why where men, who obviously don’t believe in God, get to abuse so many children? Also why some people have their head in the sand about abuse I’m Islam?
@Ladude: as above:
http://www.thejournal.ie/labour-mp-resigns-rape-3549710-Aug2017/?r_dir_d=1
http://www.thejournal.ie/sex-exploitation-newcastle-3537954-Aug2017/
Plenty of Journal articles, but you have to actually want to find them.
@Ladude: Like in the celebrity world only a small percentage of people from the religious world actually abuse people, the vast majority don’t.
@Paul Fahey: Paul I’m on here for 4 years. I know the journals agenda and what they will report endlessly on. Their are certain stories that are constantly pushed on here and other ignored. I never said their was no stories of this sort of thing, just not enough of them, they are few and far between!!!!
@Ladude: IS there organized abuse in the Islamic church the way there was in the catholic church? or are you talking about cases where people who abused people happened to be muslim? was it that they were muslim that made them abuse people?
It wasn’t that they were catholic that made them abuse people it was the organization covering it up. So tell us what you are talking about specifically instead of this vague innuendo? Which Islamic church is engaging in a cover up of systematic abuse and who is doing it? whats not being covered?
@nafoits:
I’m guessing you’ve never read the Koran or Hadiths and studied Islams archaic penal Sharia law? quite an eye opener regarding the treatment of non Muslims, slaves, children, women etc and just about every aspect of daily life. Did you know that since the creation of Islam(submit),over 260M Human beings have been killed throughout its history, not to mention the countless number taken into Islamic slavery.
@Remy: ….and? You will find that in any holy book, the bible is filled with genocide, gang rape, slavery and orders to kill this that and the other and , just like the Qu’ran, a contradictory chapter talking about peace and love a few pages down.
Sharia Law is not just about punishment it’s a whole way of living, All organized religion is dangerous for the exact same reason: it lets you pick and choose passages in a holy book to convince yourself the creator of the universe is on your side to back anything you wanna do
@Ryan Carroll:
Muhammad was no Jesus. Next time a Koranic sanctioned Jihadist commits mass murder in the name of Allah(Pagan moon God), I’ll try remember your words.
@Remy: Murder in the same of religion is nothing new, you can see the Americans do it, the Isrealis do it, and ISIS do it
What that has to do with sexual assault I don’t know
@Ryan Carroll:
There are no verses in the Koran about peace and love towards non Muslims… Cherry picking certain lines out of verses and stating it contradicts a following verse shows your ignorance…. https://lancastrian1.wordpress.com/2017/02/23/how-the-media-mislead-by-omission/amp/
@Ryan Carroll:
Because Muhammad the founder of Islam and the so called perfect Muslim, by all standards, was a Pedophile and a rapist, he used rape as a weapon of war against the Jews and the Pagans of Arabia.
@Remy: There are, theres an entire section about he who takes one life kills all of humanity, it’s you doing the cherry picking because you were caught out and can’t handle it
@Ryan Carroll: sorry, so you have the bible verse where it mentions gang rape? Never heard of this in the Bible and I have read it many times
Says a lot about the reasons for giving such an award in the first place if it can be revoked at will
@lavbeer: I’d say his mantlepiece is already full anyway.
@lavbeer: Spacey is one of the great multidimensional talents, so we’re going to focus intently on one dimension.
The key word here is ‘allegations ‘. Forget about due process. Lets do it the American way. Hang em high then give him a fair trial.
It looks like McCarthyism is back. This time the media is whipping it up. Trump is right about them.
@Harry Roberts: He already basically admitted it
It’s not McCarthyism it’s safety in numbers having it’s effect, everyone is suddenly realizing that they were not the only one this kind of thing happened to and speaking out hoping that the shame it causes for their abusers will mean it won’t happen to the next generation
If someone was strongly denying involvement I’d say ok we don’t know but most of them are putting their heads down and admitting it knowing more stories might be coming and their PR people tell them it’s best to admit it up front than try to deny then admit it later which looks worse
@Ryan Carroll: Even if he strongly denied it – the media will still tar him. Other accused denied and get tarred, and Spacey errs on a “I don’t remember but IF I did” and he still get tarred.
It’s Guilty til proven Innocent of all allegations now.
I’m not going to believe any allegations til it’s proven beyond reasonable doubt in a court of law.
People….don’t be f—-g idiots, really, you can’t be that stupid you just can’t be
If someone accused me of luring a 14 yo back to my place and trying to have it on with him I’d completely loose the plot, be practically foaming at the mouth, hiring lawyers and threatening to sue left right and centre screaming from the roof tops that it was untrue…not saying I don’t remember but maybe
If that’s not an admission then it’ happened its an admission it could have which is the same as saying yeh when i get drunk i wanna hook up with barely into puberty teen boys, come on ffsake think about how you’d react if someone accused you of a sexual crime you didn’t commit, you don’t say “maybe i did i was drunk”. I know no matter how hammered I am I don’t try it on with 14 year olds so if anyone ever accuses me it wont be a maybe answer if you can’t say the same then id have to wonder.
@Ryan Carroll: you seem to have it all figured out Ryan! Ever think of getting into the legal business?
@Damo:: If you can’t keep up with us that’s ok, just don’t say anything at all, if you post that kinda thing it just shows you got nothing.
@Ryan Carroll: Well that was a delightful opening paragraph.
First he gives an “if” apology ( basically a non apology ) for molesting a 14 year old. And decides NOW is exactly the right moment to come out. What a bag of sleeze slurry! He does the lgbt community no service by coming out.
@Ian Phillip Creaner: you do the LGBT community no service by suggesting that Spacey is representative of them.
@Ian Phillip Creaner: I agree , although to be fair he was damed either way , because if he responded to the accusations public but just said it was 30 years ago and he was drunk and he’s sorry , the trial by media storm and questioning of sexuality would be in full flight about him ANYWAY , then if he chose to come out / in say 3 months time , then that would just get linked and associated to this incident ( all over again ) and the mob would be saying ah I knew he was gay remember he assaulted that 14 year old lad but conveniently never mentioned he was gay blah blah …. Definitely a case of Damed if you do and damed if you don’t
@Living The Laws: you do yourself less service by being either a) unable to read, b) unable to understand simple English or c) unable to articulate your thoughts clearly. Which ever one it is, you have overshot your mark.
@Living The Laws: who said he knew he was 14? Once again, were you there? Do you know what really happened, what about other people at the party? This is a matter for the police and the courts.
@Ladude: if he was in a show acting with him then there is a high probability he knew. Definitely one for the police
@Damien Wallanger: If I accused you of trying to have sex with an underage boy would you say “i dont know I might have”
or “no!! ive never done that and if you print that I’ll sue your ass!”
The latter is the reaction of an innocent person.
@Ian Phillip Creaner: Wow that’s a ridiculous statement. He wasn’t accused of ‘molesting’ anyone. He tried it on with someone at a party, they said they weren’t interested, he accepted that and now he’s a child molester!!! He didn’t take anyone, sexually assault anyone or molest anyone. Facts really don’t matter to those on the bandwagon.
@Aoife Dooley: a 26 year old man lies on top of a fourteen year old girl with sexual intent. Having sexual intent, and being 26, it might be safe to presume an erection was involved. She then manages to squirm out from under him. hmmmm. Still feel the same about it? Did you just become a bit daft as u grew older or….?
In hindsight,I bet the Emmy’s wish they didn’t mention “crossing boundaries to touch humanity” in relation to Spacey.
@Erich Butler: yeah although it’s all sanctimonious BS anyway , “awards” for “actors” who cross boundaries to @Touch humanity “- pass me the sick bucket / look at me I got an Emmy for touching humanity let’s all have an overpriced dinner and congratulate each other while the planet descends into an even bigger rich and poor divide ….
@Minom Pnom:
go back to the Daily Mail comments section
Whatever happened to the “innocent until proven guilty” This is just an allegation and has not been proven. The alleged perpetrator has no memory of it. It was 30 years ago. Why did the alleged victim not speak out before?
@John Hagin Meade: Correction: The alleged perpetrator “says” he has no memory of it. The alleged victim was 14 years old so probably very scared. Not everyone is as brave as you, John.
@Johnny Bellew: Think about this.
If you were accused of sleazily and drunkenly luring a 14 year old boy to your place under false pretenses, picking him up in your arms, pinning him to your bed and making the moves on them, and you know you didn’t do it, would your response be:
(A) “i er…well…sorry if I er…did do that i was probably drunk and don’t remember er….”
(B) I did no such thing! f—K! i’ll sue this b****D he’s lying he can expect to hear from my lawyers!
@Ryan Carroll: either statement will produce the same outcome – tarred and feathered by the mob til proven innocent.
Forget the outcome, it’s the initial reaction that tells you if the person did it or not.
If I don’t remember last night because I blacked out (does not happen to me but if it did), and someone accused me of rape say, I would know I didn’t do it because I never would, so I’d naturally deny it even if I had no memory I’d be screaming I’d never do such a thing.
i don’t get it at all…
He’s accused him, in an interview….
hasn’t consulted or approached him….
has he reported it… spacey apologized first off but said i couldn’t remember, which in fairness is more than most would do……
if you’ve been molested in such a way, report it, or confront your molester when older….
30 year’s with a vague story, is bandwagon jumping…
taking away from the people in the Harvey weinstien cases…
Sounding like George hook, but, what was a 14 year old boy doing at a party with adults with drink and drugs? Where were his parents? I do not agree with what spacey did, especially deflecting by saying he is gay, but surely there is a parental responsibility here too?
@Blah blah: agreed, its parents responsibility….
very weird situation…
but if it’s true…..
lot of false claims out there….
More hypocrisy. Does anyone seriously believe that any member of the Emmy panel was not aware of the Spacey stories. Another open secret in Hollywood. To think these people try to tell us what to believe especially at events like the Emmys.
Hollywood looks as though it’s going through the Salem Witch trials…. Who needs evidence when the story is so good….
Assault? It was said this boy wasn’t touched except for stupid dirty talking…. and can you imagine why wait for over 30 years before telling the world media about his claim? Strange….
@Thosj Carroll:
Apparently he went to a lawyer and was told that he had no case, so what exactly is this all about?
@Thosj Carroll: It’s not at all strange if you understand the power dynamics at work. Because he was 14 and scared and because if you accuse a “pillar of the community” of something like that out of nowhere you’ll be accused of slandering a good man and never work in the sector again
He waited because now there is safety in numbers.
He was picked up and pinned to a bed, any unwanted physical contact is assault. Would you pick a 14 year old up, stick them on your bed and pin them down there no matter how hammered you were?
Now this does not seem right , I make no excuses for drunken behaviour and certainly for sexual assault , but he was 26 , at an adult party and he made a drunken pass at a guy , who was at an Adult Party , he didn’t force , blackmail or coerce ,he made a pass at him . Stuff like this will dilute any real sexual assault reports. Are we all to get offended if someone makes a pass , and if we say no thanks and they leave ,let’s not exaggerate it . Now I don’t know everything about this , but this is all that’s been reported .
There’s actually a scene in family Guy where a naked Stewie is running naked through a shopping mall saying he just escaped from Keven Spaceys basement .
If things keep going the way they are, there will shortly be nobody left in Hollywood to make anything apart from pornography and rap videos. I’m sure that the outrage at Wienstien and Spacey and the rest will be felt deeply by these sectors, and in future the porn and rap shows will be of the highest possible taste (non exploitative of course).
And Pope Francis blessed John Paul II, who was number one child abuse enabler in the world, with canonisation. What next the canonisation of Maciel who was John Paul’s favourite living saint? Who says the secular world has no morals?
It could be a bum Rapp
He used his homosexuality as a defence……..?
@michael k: Diversion tactics or “spin”….. as they say in the states, and I hear a lot of the big liberal news stations in America ran with the title “Kevin Spacey reveals he’s gay” and with no mention of the accusation so it kind of worked for him, initially.
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