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IT’S A BANK holiday and if you don’t have any plans for that extra day off, don’t worry – there are plenty of events happening around the country.
Here’s some of this weekend’s highlights:
Galway
The seven-day Galway Races Summer Festival continues this weekend, finishing up tomorrow.
But if horse racing isn’t your thing, there’s still plenty on offer from entertainment to fashion.
The family friendly days of the festival are today and tomorrow with no admission fee for children.
There will be lots of entertainment for the young racegoers including bouncy castles, discos, slides and face painting.
For more information and ticket prices, check out the website.
Dublin
Beatyard is back again this August bank holiday with over 100 food vendors and over 80 music acts performing across the weekend.
Tickets for today and tomorrow are still on sale here, with Django Django headling tonight and Orbital rounding off the festival tomorrow.
The festival offers a lot more at Dun Laoghaire harbour with the Kidsyard, a nautical boogie on the water and the Back Page Gamesyard.
Cork
Jake Bugg, Primal Scream and Walking on Cars are all headlining Indiependence this weekend at Deerpark farm at the foot of the Galtee Mountains.
Since 2006, Indiependence has grown into one of Ireland’s biggest festivals.
Saturday and Sunday tickets are still on sale and can be collected at the box office on the day.
Wexford
The Rockin’ Food Festival in Enniscorthy this weekend is all about eating, dancing and history.
The artisan food, drink and crafts market has been expanded with over 80 vendors taking over the market streets. This year there is a brand new children’s marquee that will host cooking classes, Lego workshops and puppet shows.
A number of ticketed events like a gin talk, a medieval sword making and a harvest banquet are taking place so to book your tickets or to find out more information, check out the website.
Offaly
Now in its 13th year, Castlepalooza is continuing across the weekend in the surroundings Charleville Castle in Tullamore.
Children under 12 can go free once an adult or guardian accompanies them.
Day tickets are still on sale with New Jackson and Ships headlining tonight while the Rubberbandits will be at the Laughter Lab tomorrow night.
Waterford
The very first of All Together Now festival is taking place this weekend at Curraghmore Estate.
The 3000-acre estate has music, spoken word, comedy, theatre, debate, art and workshops all taking place across the weekend.
Some acts headlining the festivals maiden voyage include Chaka Khan, Fleet Foxes, First Aid Kit and Róisín Murphy.
General camping tickets are still available here if you want to get in on the action.
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Kerry
The Inflatable Colour Run is bouncing into Killarney tomorrow.
Organisers have advised dressing in white to soak up as much colour during your walk run or dance around the inflatable route.
The event is suitable for everyone with group discounts available here.
Got any other suggestions? Let us know in the comments.
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It’s a 19th century bureaucracy for the 21st century
Government failure is always used as an excuse for government expansion. Government thrives on crisis and incompetence.
Jim Babka
This is how it works…
the Rothschilds tell Angela what they want , Angela tells enda what to do , Enda tells his Ministers and party to spread specific words through the managers in the civil service and through the unions and representative bodies ,
These unions and managers assess their staff for the phrase that convinces the people – e.g. the seanad campaign was all about “getting rid of politicians and saving money!” ..these were the “triggers” that the managers etc. fed back to the politicians …..
the politicians then hammer home the message under the Rote learning principle – that is why even when the savings were proven to be bogus the politicians kept on message because they were convinced that this message was enough to get the vote over the line…..
Polls have traditionally been used to check the “buzz” words in advance …..
A prime example of this in action was the FISCAL TREATY ….No cash in the machines – play on fear and turn off the thinking process !
If you pay peanuts you get monkeys, somehow the people in Ireland pay very well but get monkey performance from our state employees, not all but there is some serious system defects and poor performance.
Rather pay top dollar at this stage and employ the monkey, s nothing to lose
Aaron not to be pedantic but there are not hundreds of thousands of workers under the remit of Secretary Generals. There are only just over 30,000 as that is how many civil servants there are. Underperformance is not managed well in the civil service. That is true. However, the comparisons you make with the private sector are largely lazy and anecdotal. Performance systems everywhere have problems, sometimes major problems. And employers everywhere use those systems to their own advantage. I would be pretty sure that most of those fired for underperformance everywhere are relatively junior and in relatively low paying jobs. It is always more difficult to fire the better paid and better educated. The public sector simply has more people in this category than the private sector. Hence, a different experience to some degree.
What Robert Watt was saying was aimed at very senior managers. He was suggesting that the public sector ape the private sector and buy out such people if necessary as part of a strategy of getting them out of their employment rather than going through torturous and protracted HR processes. In reality while this option should exist it also requires a great deal of management time. There aren’t any easy solutions here. The nettle will have to be grasped.
To sum up john. The public sector promote idiots and move all their buddies along to better pay grades. No dismissal. Juat more money for less work. No well run private firm would do that.
Aaron
I’m tired of your overblown self inflating puff pieces on subjects of which you have little knowledge and a very poor understanding of basic facts.
Employment contracts for Public Servants and particularly those in very senior positions make them virtually bomb proof and moving an individual sideways on their current salaries is usually the most effective option where underperformance for whatever reason occurs. This most usually arises due to health issues and would result in long and frighteningly expensive Court proceedings if a hire and fire attitude were to prevail .
These practices are just as common in the private sector as it seems within the Civil Service so it is clear from your opinion piece that you have little knowledge on the subject and are unafraid to expound on your ignorance!
Your Activism should be retired for poor performance.
The usual from Rodgers defend the people on the gravy train, incompetent people in public sector should b sacked , not moved to another department to bring that down to, no accountability as usual for the people on 6 figure salaries. Which I’m sure u know plenty of them, go back supporting the political parties and unions in our country with no respect for the real Irish people
Darren you construct a straw man of an argument which has no basis in fact. Private sector good, public sector bad. Grow up please and deal with facts and not your emotional baggage and prejudices; none of which appear to be based on any knowledge of what you are talking about. In the public and the private sector there are good and bad people but overwhelmingly I believe most people are good and try to do a good job. There are idiots in the public sector, There are idiots in the private sector. Most people are not idiots; either in the public sector or the private sector. Try to move beyond intellectually sterile and lazy stereotyping. There are many well run public sector bodies just as there are many well run private sector bodies and there are those that are in-between and those that are not well run. Making generalised comparisons as you do is vacuous as the public sector, like the private sector, covers a vast range of occupations and activities. Go for a run you’ll feel better.
a badly run private sector firm must adapt or die. an idiot in the private sector gets fired. not a pay rise for staying in a rut doing nothing for a few years. thats a fact john.
The Irish banks Darren?
The role of the regulator and the public officials cannot be ignored in that mess.
I scratch your back – you scratch mine!
Ireland straddles a the fence of what was and what can be.
Unfortunately, from what I’ve seen, optimism, motivation and showing national pride to benefit the nation as opposed to individual counties is not encouraged. The country is too divided to push aggressively for true accountability.
For this reason, we continue to struggle with “what was”.
Promotion is based on political affiliation or ones connection to the GAA. Ability is purely coincidental. We the Public only exist to pay for the inefficiencies and enormous pensions for the wasters that pass their life in the system.
Maybe not GAA or political but you are correct on promotions… Unless you ” wear the jersey” ( hate that saying) you only get so far… That the public/civil service for ya.
Just to say that I’ve been promoted and I have no political affiliation whatsoever. Also, most of the lads in my local GAA club wouldn’t piss on me if I was on fire.
We have very recently seen an example of how the public sector with the stroke of a pen humiliated the GAA , took a potential 50 million out of the economy, one man declared he wasn’t against 5 concerts and waited till 2 weeks beforehand to say he hasn’t assured anyone ,them pulled the plug.. The public sector are the most powerful untouchable body in this country now the Catholic Church has lost it’s grip !
Boildyeggs you are speaking in lazy generalities. Promotion is not based on political connections. In the civil service for example. IN fact political interference disqualifies you from promotion. Most promotion competitions are run by the Public Appointments Service. A more non-political body you could not get. As for the rest of the public sector covering hundreds of bodies please tell me there politics enters the equation. I knot of no such mechanism.
The divide and conquer strategy invoked by successive governments has worked a treat. Nobody knew or cared about the public sector before the crash and now it’s all our fault for everything. Using the Brian Purcell situation as an excuse to attack rank and file public servants is pathetic, it’s like a football club firing their manager and everyone bitching about the kit man.
If you people worked and stopped striking complaining you would not have such stories
Stop striking? The last strike was a one day event about 5 years ago, which we had deducted from our wages. We do work. I don’t complain about my work I’m just sick of listening to the public, many of whom don’t know the first thing about the Public service, aimlessly moaning about us like it’s all our fault. It’s beyond tiresome. Aim your vitriol at those who got us into the mess, not the ordinary nurse, teacher, Garda or departmental office worker going about their jobs like everyone else. Lazy, agendaised and stereotyped journalism lads.
A plumb job is something very different to a plum job according to the urban dictionary.
Sara, naughty. You’ll get no thanks for highlighting the nuances in the language.
Can’t believe this completely lazy article. Banging the bench marking drum again, all the gains made have long been lost. I’ve worked in both private and public sector . There has been an equally proportion of incompetence in both. Some private sector workers don’t care about their employers, colleagues or customers, that is also true of the public sector. But do us the opposite . The majority of public sector workers are honest, hardworking and doing their best in a system that is collapsing under the failure to replace staff, Equipment or proper facilities. Stop blaming please
The public sector is a mess. Its painful to deal with it no matter what the department
Darren at the risk of trying to educate a person tho apparently does not not that the public sector is, can I just say that the only area that has Departments is the civil service. They only account for a small portion of the public sector, about 12%. The public sector covers everything from health care to education to electricity generation to transport to policing to name but a subset. Try to be a bit specific. Did you have a bad experience?
i think everyone has a bad or negative experience. unless you have never been in a school or needed anything medical/legal etc.
train strike next week? did you not read about that john?
If all the departments were privatised the result would be the same. Family and friends would be employed first. That’s life.
MindfulIrish, Before you comment and make an eejit of yourself please acquaint yourself with facts. All civil servants are recruited through the Public Appointments Service on the basis of open competition. Anyone can apply. Family and friends don’t matter. If you wish to comment try to do so knowledgeably.
MindfulIrish is partially correct. When it comes to hiring temp staff or more agency staff, certain people always manage to get their families ahead of the queue. I’ve seen it happen time & time again.
A certain city hall in the Midwest employs a number of staff who are related to each other. Coincidence? I think not.
@ roman sexton i would have to agree with you there also contacts for events are given to the same FRIEND time and time again…..every event that is held you will find one brother advertised it, another is selling goods, one is providing the entertainment etc and if you are not in that circle forget about new ideas because if you are not connected it just wont happen
Most teachers only get hired by knowing someone in a school
And you don’t think that happens in the private sector at all? If I own a business and I have family members who are qualified to carry out work I need done and are in need of employment, wouldn’t I be crazy to give that work to somebody else?
Yes, *temporary* staff were historically hired in some public sector places of employment. *Emphasis on temporary,* although I understand the Public Appointments Service (PAS) now carry out a significant amount of recruitment for temporary staff also. Persons applying for permanent employment within the civil or public service must apply through the PAS, and it is CLEARLY stated in the Competition Rules that canvassing will disqualify. The days of nepotism in the Public Service, or more particularly in the Permanent Staff of the Public Service, are dead and gone: They’re “with O’Leary in the grave.”
Pardon my language, but your statement is a load of bo***x! A very close family friend is a teacher. Some time ago, a vacancy arose in a school nearby. The application was submitted, all stops were pulled out, all favours called in – to include representations made to a school principal friend – and the teacher, now 10 years on, is *still* traveling about the country from one temporary contract to another, desperately, and thus far vainly, trying to find permanent work. My friend – an excellent teacher, highly respected by faculty at every school they’ve worked at and much loved by all pupils – has yet to find a permanent job! This doesn’t quite relate to what you state, does it?
Who do *you* know who got a job in the manner you describe? Evidence please? In other words, put your money where your mouth is, or stop making ridiculous, obviously unresearched comments such as this!
And you don’t think that happens in the private sector at all? If I own a business and I have family members who are qualified to carry out work I need done and are in need of employment, wouldn’t I be crazy to give that work to somebody else?
Yes, *temporary* staff were historically hired in some public sector places of employment. *Emphasis on temporary,* although I understand the Public Appointments Service (PAS) now carry out a significant amount of recruitment for temporary staff also. Persons applying for permanent employment within the civil or public service must apply through the PAS, and it is CLEARLY stated in the Competition Rules that canvassing will disqualify. The days of nepotism in the Public Service, or more particularly in the Permanent Staff of the Public Service, are dead and gone: They’re “with O’Leary in the Grave.”
And you don’t think that happens in the private sector at all? OK, lets pretend I own a business. Nowww, I have several family members who are qualified to carry out the work I need done and who are in need of employment, why on earth would I hire from the larger ‘job pool’ when I already have the skill I need within my family. I be crazy to not hire my family member,,firstly because standard wages arent calculated the same as for non family members, so it costs me less to start. Why would i consider giving that work to somebody else? Now, as my business grows and i need more staff because and my family are all employed, either with me or further afield, I now have the opportunity to recruit more of employees from outside the family circle. So I employ the other people who are qualified to produce my business, therefore everybody gets a job. End of story..,
**Yes nepotism still exists in private business.**
Yes, *temporary* staff were historically hired in some public sector places of employment. *Emphasis on temporary,* although I understand the Public Appointments Service (PAS) now carry out a significant amount of recruitment for temporary staff also. Persons applying for permanent employment within the civil or public service must apply through the PAS, and it is CLEARLY stated in the Competition Rules that canvassing will disqualify. The days of nepotism in the Public Service, or more particularly the days of nepotism the recruitment of Permanent Staff of the Public Service, are dead and gone: They’re “with O’Leary in the Grave.”
Pardon my language, but your statement is a load of bo***x! A very close family friend is a teacher. Some time ago, a vacancy arose in a school nearby. The application was submitted, all stops were pulled out, all favours called in – to include representations made to a school principal friend – and the teacher, now 10 years on, is *still* traveling about the country from one temporary contract to another, desperately, and thus far vainly, trying to find permanent work. My friend – an excellent teacher, highly respected by faculty at every school they’ve worked at and much loved by all pupils – has yet to find a permanent job! This doesn’t quite relate to what you state, does it?
Who do *you* know who got a job in the manner you describe? Evidence please? In other words, put your money where your mouth is, or stop making ridiculous, obviously unresearched comments such as this.
Are these related employees hired in low, middle or high income posts? Are they permanent posits or temporary contracts? Are the family members who hold the posts suitably qualified (academically & experientially) to do so? If they fit the hiring criteria then they are entitled to hold their posts, regardless of relationship to other staff members. They applied for the job(s), presumably participated in the stringent testing routine, completed at interview and were appointed on the results of the recruitment procedures as opposed to the now deemed obsolete “YSMBISL” (you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours). I respectfully suggest that nepotism in permanent posts in the public service has largely died out. As a former (disgruntled) public service employee whose “princely” monthly pension amounts to the mind boggling amount of €200 per calendar month after 10 years of the most abusive, bullied and intimidated service I have ever experienced, I can say with certainty that all temporary / contract staff are subjected to testing and interview before receiving a contract and possibly upon successful completion of the tests are then placed in posts at the behest of higher-up relatives.
Add John Tierney to that list.
Hubert Kearns as well. Actually, the senior managerial team of Irish Water seems to be comprised of incompetent County Managers.
And Roddy Molly. Mary coughlan signed off on his big pension & car.
Totally agree Tierney blew over 100 million of tax payers money along with DCC on consultancy fees and not a brick laid in Poolbeg yet he gets moved to the top job in Irish water that sums up the banana republic that management of the public service have turned this country into.
Look at Kearns; runs Sligo County Council into the ground, has the arrogance to dismiss his tenure over this monumental cock up by claiming that “No-one died” and then gets a €250K+ golden handshake and a pension for the rest of his incompetent life. And if that wasn’t enough, gets himself a job on the board of Irish Water. It’s a boy’s club and we’re not in it, but you can be damned sure we’ll pay for it.
Besides drive and ambition the main qualifications needed are an ability to keep your head down, your mouth shut, and accept that the word yes is the definitive de facto most used word in the English language,with the unions having such a vicelike grip and little penalty for underperformance, is it any wonder they dread people that step out of line like whistleblowers with the balls to swim against the tide,the citizens of the country have reason to be thankfull there are still some in the public service who are not prepared to put up with it.
Another man with no clue, with no research done into public workers or if they get fired. Yes they do Aaron. Rem, private sector banks ruined this country combined with a government policy of soft touch regulation, not lazy workers on google all day, in fact they flagged it, but the government appointed ones did as their master said. Do you forget we had a show called Rip Off Ireland, that private labourers were charging 600 for a Saturday. Do you remember the prime time documentaries on private healthcare workers forcing feeding and abusing the elderly. How is the NDLS running, wasn’t the M50 a great example of driving down costs, because they are all brutal, as is Irish Water. I found an electrician asleep one day on a private contract. Wow he kept his job. Give a private entity a public function and watch the prices rocket. Go into some public service institution tonight and go witness them all eating biscuits and drinking tae in the A&E’s. It’s time for Reagan’s words to ring out, because government are forever releasing initiatives and stripping existing resources or diverting public funds to expanded private sector services and failing to provide the basics. The fact is if your assembly line is operating a bad system then that is how it is, truth is the systems are bad, but it suits to tar the workers. A bad system public or private is bad.
Is the plural not ‘Secretaries General’ rather than ‘Secretary Generals’?
Just curious. I usually rely on my journalists to educate me on these things. When I real this article I get very confused.
Any editor on duty around thejournal?
Enda kenny 180,000 euro salary,Mariano rajoy Spanish pm 75,000 euro something not quite right there!!!
Well, see. The govt drove up the cost of everything we need to live through illegal taxes, so it became much more expensive to live here. My goodness!! Surely many would die of shame if he wore the same suit & tie to “work” everyday! Apart from the whiffs ponging by,, think of the mortification!!. So he needs more money cos everything costs more here than in Spain, a country how many times the size of Ireland. Course, if we stopped countries entirely, everything’d be dearer there soon too, including politicians’ salaries,!
Guess some people (thumbs downers) don’t ‘get’ sarcasm,articulately my off kilter sarcasm. Oh well, your deep loss guys, you have my sympathy. Hope you “get it” soon! ;-)
So what Arron is saying then is that the public sector, at managerial level, needs to stop operating in the same way as certain private sector works at certain levels (most notably the international private banking and financial sector) where the YSMBWW union has forced a similar way of dealing with incompetence – where only the unlucky few who are so bad as to be criminally negligent get really punished.
(YSMBWW = You scratch my back wink, wink)
Well that would be good.
The public sector should not be run “the same way as the private sector”. They are two different worlds. The private sector has one aim which is to make a profit. This is not the same in the public sector where profit is rarely on any list of aims. It is very difficult to measure the differences between performances of two entities that have completely different aims. I have to laugh when I hear people talk about how “he wouldn’t last in the private sector”. That is a huge generalisation. It is nigh on impossible to fire someone in the private sector without ending up before an employment tribunal.
My point about family and friends being employed by private companies is common sense. The employer knows the family and possibly grew up with them therefore they know they can trust the candidate rather than a stranger. I would do it to protect my company and fellow employees. If a family member was being forced to emigrate I would do whatever possible and legal to employ that family member or try and get that person a job with a friends business. To me it is human nature to mind and protect our own. Is it morally right?
Agreed. Certain parts of the private sector are as protected and nest feathered as any public sector organisation. When the people who set the T+CS of employment depend on the people to be employed under those T+Cs to maintain their own T+Cs , that circle spirals up to a tightly wound group of expensive untouchables who have free reign to set ‘the going rate’ for all T+Cs in the industry.
Certain private industry participants on a global scale then have public sector style guarantees of employment within the sector and a guaranteed massive pay- off if they mess up and have to be booted out.
What justification was there for forcing Purcell to leave his position at the Department of Justice? He did not commit misconduct. He simply followed Shatter’s instructions. Have people forgotten that Purcell was shot by Martin Cahill for doing his job? Does the presumption of innocence not apply in the world of politics?
@Ciaran Masterson – good god man – You are seriously implying that Purcell “followed” Shatters instruction?
Deluded.
Yes, he was shot and maybe early retirement due to ill health should have sufficed, instead of highly paid plum job where under his reign the Dept of Justice is crumbling……….
Politicians need to have these incompetent yes people as they kowtow and know which side their bread is buttered. Also, traditionally we have limited resources in Ireland so they need the gravy the public service, hence its bloated.
Why does this neo con jackass continue to get a voice on journal.ie
In prisons retired nurse officers are being rehired as agency nurses , a nice pension , same work place and a wage on top of it .. Only in Ireland !!
Those retired nurse officers you so blithely condemn are doing no different than any other worker (be that in the public OR private sector) would do to supplement their incomes. FYI, in order to have a halfway decent pension those men and women have to be in public service employment for approximately 40 years or their “nice pension” isn’t enough to live on. Were you aware that all public service staff coming to employment later in their careers (i.e. not having an opportunity to complete 40 years of service) usually end up struggling (financially and personally) through their employment because they must take out Additional Voluntary Contributions, as private sector employees are encouraged to do also, in order to have a pension that might, with a bit of luck, suffice to keep them in relative comfort in their declining years?
You imply that they have not worked hard all their working lives and haven’t earned their “nice pension.” Don’t you think they are entitled to be paid for the work they are doing, be it through a public or private agency? Would *YOU* work in the prison service, where abuse is commonplace, for nothing? Your inference that they are not entitled to what they earn is an insult to all retired nurses in Ireland who go back to work through agencies. Did it ever occur to you that they go back to work because their so called “nice pensions” aren’t sufficient to meet the rising, over inflated, cost of living in this rip off state?
Clearly you know little about the true nature of low and middle income earners in the public service other than what you have been drip fed through a media that seemingly exists to demonise and vilify all public service employees; media that are encouraged to do so by our “esteemed and revered” government.
Having worked in both private and public sectors (the latter service for less than the required 40 years to have a “nice pension” having been forced to retire or get fired), my personal experience is that lower paid employees are treated equally badly in both sectors. Nobody in either public or private employment should be forced to accept anything less than optimal working conditions, sub-optimal being the standard in this sad country. While we may in essence be ‘beasts of burden’ we do not deserve abuse or mistreatment as is so prevalent in current day Ireland. Optimal working conditions are non-existent for most working people in Ireland today. It’s a win-win situation for employers.
Just to clear your sad comment up somewhat. “only in Ireland!!” as tou sat in your comment is actually FALSE!
The return to work of retired people, be they nurses, prison officers, or whatever, is not an event peculiar only to Ireland. *Many* retired persons I know of personally in the U.S.A. go back to work in the same field. They do not necessarily return to the same exact workplace but return to similar, or even the same type of work post “coming out of retirement” is not uncommon in the least.
What you don’t know, nor indeed can you speculate on, is whether the retiredeople returning to work did so out of loneliness or maybe even boredom. Pray that you will have the strength, willingness, attitude, determination and health both mental and physical to rise to hat particular challenge when you’re in your late 60s, 70s and indeed early 80s!
I wish you the good health to be able to try for yourself the joys of working after you retire, be it for the money or the companionship.
Hilda what I do know is they choose to retire in their 50s , they had the option to keep working in the public service until they are 60 . But they choose to take their grat of approximately 80k , then return as agency . That vacancy should be filled by a young nurse who is forced to emigrate because of lack of work , I guess the gravy train Is not only for TDs & senior civil servants.
Mitch, while I agree younger people deserve to have work in this country and should not EVER have to leave Ireland but by choice, the fact remains that it’s still happening. As I understand the situation in relation to (early) retired nurses going back to work through agencies … Indeed that was a practice carried out until a couple of years ago. Then, a stop was put to it on a countrywide basis and the nurses who worked a couple of days a week to supplement their income were let go. Currently the public service DOES NOT PERMIT former public or civil service employees who have availed of early “incentivised” retirement TO APPLY FOR ANOTHER JOB IN THE CIVIL/PUBLIC service in a similar role to the one previously undertaken..
Historically, despite an abundance of qualified or almost nurses nurses in the country, it was the penchant for Nurse Managers from the various hospitals to travel to faraway places such as the Phillippines and Malaysia to recruit contract nursing staff instead of drawing from the existing pool of qualifird staff in Ireland, These Nurse Managers (presumably on orders from the department of Health) are the ones largely responsible for the immigration of Irish nurses in the 90s and the government refusal to staff hospitals at the appropriate levels to ensure: patient care is priority; and all that safety measures adhered to, are the ones responsible for our best and brightest having to seek their futures elsewhere.
Having said that, I also believe that spending time in other countries is a great education and mind broadening experience. Travel is something I would reccommend to any young graduate before settling down in the place you choose to call home. It was by far the best decision I ever made!
Why ? …Simple information control – the info. is passed up through the management and passed down from the politicians …..
If civil servants did the exact opposite to what their managers hint at during elections then Ireland would be a completely different place !
“Canvassing will disqualify!” …and that from people who canvass for their liveliehoods – Open your eyes people !
@Dermot Ryan
I’m a bit baffled by your statements abovr ^^^
Will you please be so kind as to elaborate and let me understand what your words actually mean? Thank you.
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