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Varadkar says 'there is much to be done to get justice' for Church abuse survivors

In a speech delivered at an event attended by Pope Francis, the Taoiseach spoke about the “dark aspects of the Catholic Church’s history”.

LEO VARADKAR HAS said there is “much to be done” to bring about justice and healing for survivors of clerical abuse.

In a speech delivered at an event attended by Pope Francis in Dublin Castle this afternoon, the Taoiseach spoke about the “dark aspects of the Catholic Church’s history”.

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“It is a history of sorrow and shame. In place of Christian charity, forgiveness and compassion, far too often there was judgement, severity and cruelty, in particular, towards women and children and those on the margins.

“Magdalene Laundries, Mother and Baby Homes, industrial schools, illegal adoptions and clerical child abuse are stains on our State, our society and also the Catholic Church.

“Wounds are still open and there is much to be done to bring about justice and truth and healing for victims and survivors.

“Holy Father, I ask that you use your office and influence to ensure this is done here in Ireland and across the World,” Varadkar said.

Pope Francis is expected to meet survivors of clerical abuse during his two-day visit to Ireland. Details of that meeting will not be announced until after it has taken place, the Vatican has said.

The pontiff wrote a letter during the week asking for forgiveness from abuse victims. You can follow the latest updates from his visit here.

Here is Varadkar’s full speech:

Holy Father, on behalf of the Irish people, I want to greet you using one of the oldest blessings we use to welcome a special guest to Ireland – céad míle fáilte – one hundred thousand welcomes.

And, given the hundreds of thousands of people who will come out to see you, to hear you say mass, and to receive your blessing, I can think of no welcome more appropriate.

I know you spent a few weeks in Dublin in 1980 at the Jesuit centre in Milltown Park learning English, so we are delighted to welcome you back to Ireland.

1980 was a year after the visit of Pope John Paul II and we are so grateful that his prayers for peace on our island were eventually answered through the Good Friday Agreement. A peace we will protect and nurture.

 

Today I am privileged to welcome representatives from all communities in Northern Ireland and from Britain here today. Together we are guided by your words: ‘Make bridges, not walls, because walls fall.’

We are also joined here today by people from all walks of life, members of government and frontline public servants, those born here and those who have chosen to come here, men and women, young and old, Catholics, as well as members of other faiths and none.

We all share a common home – and it is our duty to nurture this planet and look after its people.

Holy Father, we thank you for your care for the earth, for emphasising the urgent challenge of climate change, and for reminding us of our responsibilities. We thank you for the empathy you have shown for the poor, for migrants, and for refugees.

Although you are here principally for a Pastoral Visit in the form of the World Meeting of Families in Dublin, we are grateful that you have found time to do other things, including this event in Dublin Castle, a visit to our President, and Mass in the Phoenix Park. We are also delighted that you are taking time to visit the shrine at Knock, and we hope that, during a future visit, it will be possible for you to travel to Northern Ireland.

Is de bharr do chuairte, tá go leor againne ag smaoineamh níos faide agus níos doimhne anois ar an gcaidreamh atá idir Éirinn agus an Eaglais Chaitliceach Rómánach … creideamh a thugadh go hÉirinn na céadta bliain ó shin.

Sa séú haois, thug file, scoláire agus manach darb ainm Columbán … nó “Saint Columbanus mar a thugtar air sa Bhéarla, teachtaireacht an tsoiscéil ar ais chun na Mór-Roinne. Is de thoisc a chuid oibre, tugadh an teideal an chéad Eorpach na hÉireann air agus Naomh-Phatrún dóibh siúd atá ag iarraidh Eoraip chomhaontaithe a chur i gcríoch.(Translation below)

The Christian faith inspired many of the people, Catholic and Protestant, who led our campaigns for freedom and independence. Indeed both the 1916 Proclamation of Independence and the Constitution invoke God in their opening lines. In more recent years, Christian Democracy and Christian ideas also helped to inform and guide the founders of the European Union inspiring a continent to abandon war in favour of ever closer co-operation.

The Catholic Church has always helped us to understand that we are citizens of a wider world and part of a global family.

Our brave missionary priests and nuns provided an education to many around the world, and helped the sick, the poor and the vulnerable. Today our UN peacekeepers and our international development workers around the world follow in that proud tradition, and charities like Trócaire and Concern help those who suffer from famine today, and also refugees.

People of profound Christian faith provided education to our children when the State did not, in the open air next to hedgerows and in the schools and educational institutions they built. They founded our oldest hospitals, staffed them, and provided welfare for so many of our people. We think of the many wonderful organizations today who continue that work, like St. Vincent de Paul to name just one.

It is easy to forget that the Irish State, founded in 1922, did not set up a Department of Health or a Department of Social Welfare until 1947.

These are now our two largest and best funded Government Departments accounting for more than half of Government spending between them today. Providing healthcare, education and welfare is now considered a core function of our State. When the state was founded, it was not. The Catholic Church filled that gap to the benefit of many generations of our people. We remain profoundly grateful for that contribution.

Even today, as we struggle with a housing shortage and homelessness, Catholic organizations and people inspired by their Catholic faith fill a gap in providing services, for example, through organisations like CrossCare.

Holy Father, during your papacy, we have all witnessed your compassion for those on the edge of our society, those who have not shared in our relative prosperity, those you have slipped through the net.

Your visit to the Capuchin Day Centre later today reminds us of work we still have to do to ensure that the promise of the New Testament is fulfilled, that we rejoice with the truth, always protect, always trust, always hope, always persevere. And never fail.

At times in the past we have failed. There are ‘dark aspects’ of the Catholic Church’s history, as one of our bishops recently said. We think of the words of the Psalm which tells us that ‘children are a heritage from the Lord’ and we remember the way the failures of both Church and State and wider society created a bitter and broken heritage for so many, leaving a legacy of pain and suffering.

It is a history of sorrow and shame.

In place of Christian charity, forgiveness and compassion, far too often there was judgement, severity and cruelty, in particular, towards women and children and those on the margins.

Magdalene Laundries, Mother and Baby Homes, industrial schools, illegal adoptions and clerical child abuse are stains on our State, our society and also the Catholic Church. Wounds are still open and there is much to be done to bring about justice and truth and healing for victims and survivors.

Holy Father, I ask that you use your office and influence to ensure this is done here in Ireland and across the World.

In recent weeks, we have all listened to heart-breaking stories from Pennsylvania of brutal crimes perpetrated by people within the Catholic Church, and then obscured to protect the institution at the expense of innocent victims. It is a story all too tragically familiar here in Ireland.

There can only be zero tolerance for those who abuse innocent children or who facilitate that abuse.

We must now ensure that from words flow actions.

Above all, Holy Father, I ask to you to listen to the victims.

The Ireland of the 21st century is a very different place today than it was in the past. Ireland is increasingly diverse.

One in six of us were not born here, and there are more and more people who adhere to other faiths, or who are comfortable in declaring that they subscribe to no organised religion.

We have voted in our parliament and by referendum to modernise our laws – understanding that marriages do not always work, that women should make their own decisions, and that families come in many forms including those headed by a grandparent, lone parent or same-sex parents or parents who are divorced.

Holy Father, I believe that the time has now come for us to build a new relationship between church and state in Ireland – a new covenant for the 21st Century. It is my hope that your visit marks the opening of a new chapter in the relationship between Ireland and the Catholic Church.

Building on our intertwined history, and learning from our shared mistakes, it can be one in which religion is no longer at the centre of our society, but in which it still has an important place.

One with greater diversity and choice when it comes to the patronage of our schools – and where publicly-funded hospitals are imbued with a civic and scientific ethos.

Ireland is a different country than it was 39 years ago. Modern Ireland is still a country with faith and spirit and values. Family, community, enterprise, social justice, diversity, openness and internationalism, equality before the law, and individual liberty -these values describe the Republic we aspire to be.

We thank you for your visit, and ask for your prayers as we start on that journey together.

Translation of Irish paragraphs:

Your visit has caused many of us to reflect further and more deeply on the relationship between Ireland and the Roman Catholic Church, a faith brought to Ireland centuries ago.

In the 6th century it was an Irish poet, scholar and monk, St Columbanus, who brought the message of the gospel back to the continent. Because of his work he has been called Ireland’s first European and the patron saint of all who seek to construct a united Europe.

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    Mute Murph
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    Aug 25th 2018, 12:45 PM

    Well delivered speech from Varadkar

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    Aug 25th 2018, 12:54 PM

    @Murph: I wonder who wrote it

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    Aug 25th 2018, 1:31 PM

    @JimmyMc: Sour Grapes?

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    Aug 25th 2018, 2:03 PM

    @Joe Mc Carthy: The €5 million Strategic Communications Unit left a bad taste in my mouth

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    Aug 25th 2018, 2:08 PM

    @Murph: not suprised tbh. Man always delivers on the stand

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    Aug 25th 2018, 2:34 PM

    @B-Tech Roadman: I wouldn’t even say he’s a decent reader. Tripped up a few times.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 9:21 PM

    @Murph: I thought that varadkars sentence about build walls not Bridges because walls fall down was insensitive given the Genoa trashed you

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    Aug 25th 2018, 12:50 PM

    Brilliant speech, covered everything that needed to be said in a calm, cool & concise manner. Well done Leo

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    Aug 25th 2018, 12:58 PM

    @Melissa Porter Nolan: the least you’d expect from a politician is the ability to read in a calm and cool manner, so most of the credit should go to the spin unit who compiled it for him

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    Aug 25th 2018, 1:14 PM

    @JimmyMc: No matter who wrote it, it cover all the points that need to be aired on a world stage and was delivered well. Sadly there was no apology on behalf of the Catholic Church

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    Aug 25th 2018, 1:21 PM

    @Melissa Porter Nolan: ‘Make bridges, not walls, because walls fall.’ Hopefully nobody from Genoa was present

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    Aug 25th 2018, 1:57 PM

    @JimmyMc: yea that made no sense, but then again… sense is the elephant in the room.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 12:45 PM

    No matter what the Taoiseach or the Pope say-the same old moaners won’t be happy.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 12:54 PM

    @Beale GAA: On the contrary, he did as much as possible in diplomatic terms and the speech covered a lot of aspects that previous taoisigh would not be able to say.

    The only part I would have liked would be to say that the state and chirch will no longer overlap, but be respectful to all churches instead of talking about a new chapter of continuing the church and state as equal, but that will come.

    We knew he wasn’t going to bring out handcuffs and arrest him.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 1:11 PM

    @Beale GAA: sure, are you ok with the terrible abuse carried out by the church ? What actions are happening to adequately recompense the victims ?

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    Aug 25th 2018, 12:49 PM

    Powerful speech from leo. Like him or hate him he really dug into Catholicism in Ireland

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    Aug 25th 2018, 5:27 PM

    @Myles Collier: Can you imagine if it was Enda? The smell of puke around the country…

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    Aug 25th 2018, 12:48 PM

    Leo will say whatever he thinks will get him votes for next election.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 2:53 PM

    @happinessnow: What would you have liked him to say?

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    Aug 25th 2018, 12:46 PM

    Has there ever been a politician that has spoke more and achieved less for the Irish people?

    Empty words leo. We need actions for the survivors of catholic church abuses.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 12:49 PM

    @The Risen: well said Leo

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    Aug 25th 2018, 12:50 PM

    @The Risen: picking holes for no reason. Words can be a powerful force for change

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    Aug 25th 2018, 12:51 PM

    @The Risen:
    What do you want from Leo? He didn’t abuse anyone!

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    Aug 25th 2018, 12:52 PM

    @Myles Collier: Right so, leo says that there’s ‘much to be done’, we’ll see how much he actually does (spoiler alert: bugger all)

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    Aug 25th 2018, 12:54 PM

    @The Risen: I’m no fg supporter. I just think it was important that the taoiseach of our country said that openly to a religious organisation that has shadowed our society for centuries. I think he deserves credit for that. Very powerful words

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    Aug 25th 2018, 12:54 PM

    @moneymaid: ‘What do you want from Leo?’

    For a start, confiscation of church property to the value of the amount still owed for abuse scandals.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 12:56 PM

    @The Risen: come on – I want all church property nationalised, all files released, and compensation paid to survivors, but the speech was OK.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 12:58 PM

    @The Risen: would you rather he just got up and didn’t say a thing about it?

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    Aug 25th 2018, 1:07 PM

    @Myles Collier: actions are much better than words. Why doesn’t he make the church pay ?

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    Aug 25th 2018, 1:08 PM

    @moneymaid: he could do a lot more to make the church pay for it’s abuse

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    Aug 25th 2018, 1:08 PM

    @Gulliver Foyle: just words

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    Aug 25th 2018, 1:58 PM

    @moneymaid: neither did the pope

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    Aug 25th 2018, 2:01 PM

    @The Risen: I can’t stand Leo or any of his band of merry men… but I can’t really fault him for that speech. As much as it pains me to say it, I think he did well. The Pope’s response fell a bit short, I thought, but apparently there’s no yappin’ to be done yet

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    Aug 25th 2018, 2:02 PM

    *more

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    Aug 25th 2018, 3:14 PM

    @The Risen: in fairness it was a good speech, well delivered, but I agree he has now set himself a task in doing much, and he must deliver on it. Sadly, I do not believe he will, but I really hope he proves me wrong.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 3:19 PM

    @The Risen: What would you recommend, perhaps a kangaroo court?

    The Taoiseach’s speech as covered every aspect of the Catholic Churches involvement in our states history, the many good things it has delivered and of the damage it has done. The Taoiseach has reminded his holiness how we as a nation have evolved and modernised and how that evolvement has included the separation of state and church. The Taoiseach has also outlined that the state will no longer tolerate the damage done to its citizens by the hands of the Catholic Church. At least that’s how I read it and Regardless the Taoiseach wrote the speech himself or not, what is said in it had to be said and was very well delivered. It’s up to the church to apologise…

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    Aug 25th 2018, 11:47 PM

    @The Risen: I generally agree with you on a lot of issues here ‘Ris’ but I genuinely believe
    Leo knocked it out of the park with this one, and I’m no fan.. I’ll give him his dues on this one.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 1:23 PM

    Excellent speech from Leo, as always. Though the usual detractors will still moan it’s not enough.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 3:20 PM

    @Jun Stone: Since the last Pope was here, it has been shown that the Catholic Church systematically abused hundreds of thousands of Irish people (and not just those sexually/physically abused or those who had their children taken away from them). Also those who were told that their children went to purgatory because they were not baptized or their loved one went to hell because they committed suicide, etc. Varadkar should have torn him/the Catholic Church to shreds.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 1:44 PM

    Have to hand it to Leo ( even if one doesnt agree with everything he espouses), What a Speech.. he sure is the best ever Statesman to bedeck a podium that we have Ever had..Zero competition.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 4:15 PM

    @Margate: I completely agree. Practically every other head of government in the past has mortified us on the world stage, I’m still taking tablets over Berties yellow suit at the G8. Cowan always mumbled and looked like he had slept in a skip and while Enda tried, he just never pulled it off.
    Leo represents us so well and has class and gravitas without being overbearing and is never cap tipping deferential Paddy.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 4:21 PM

    @Margate: Really? Is not the new modern statesman just a template intellectual? Macron, Trudeau, Leo, Kurz all look well, speak well and do nothing – well I lie very little.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 12:54 PM

    Platitudes with no solutions, it’s what we have come to expect from lack luster Leo

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    Aug 25th 2018, 1:03 PM

    Actions speak louder than words. Leo would know all about that

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    Aug 25th 2018, 1:56 PM

    @James O’Brien: What do you want him to do? Give the auld lad a smack across the chops?!?
    At least he challenged the church which is more than our political leaders have done for the past hundred years.
    Why don’t you go back to moaning about his socks or something.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 4:23 PM

    @James O’Brien: True – but be careful he has a fan club

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    Aug 25th 2018, 10:23 PM

    @Ricky Spanish: Child abuse is still happening now and the government bodies are still helping the church to cover them up… And what does the Catholic Church do but shift them around the place like musical chairs… All this today was just a show….

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    Aug 25th 2018, 12:59 PM

    Good speech by leo even if it was an obvious one, this country has and still fails its people in every way , state/church even society itself are guilty of failing to protect the vulnerable,i see no difference between either of them ,all complicit and until an honest and open discussion is had were no one side is singled out we will get nowhere.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 12:45 PM

    We know.. so who is going to do it and when?

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    Aug 25th 2018, 1:58 PM

    @Brendan Geoghegan: Well I haven’t got much else on today or tomorrow but I’m busy again come Monday, if that’s any use

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    Aug 25th 2018, 2:19 PM

    Leo , plenty to be done in this country to help those that are living in poverty etc.
    The sort of stuff that you actually can make a difference about but continue to act indifferently about.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 4:28 PM

    @Rob: Well he did mention it in his prayer to the faithful, some obtuse nod to poverty/homelessness by referring to the Capuchin Day Centre (most of FFG’ers would think it a creche). It is very hard to admit your sins as this countries guest shows.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 1:00 PM

    Yet, the man was still let into the country without it being a condition of entry. What his organization did was nothing short of predation on an entire country. From abuse to slavery. As head of that organization, the man needs to own up to it.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 3:15 PM

    I would have liked him to say that the government was looking into ways to sue the Catholic Church for payments the state has made to its victims as well as those who are awaiting compensation. I would also have liked for him to inform the Pope that the government was looking at ways to completely remove the Catholic Church from the Irish education system. Remember that this is a government/bunch of politicians that voted to keep the Dail prayer.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 6:27 PM

    What do people want from Leo. Do you want him to have a screaming match, act like a knacker while the whole world is watching. Enda, Bertie & the rest of them before Leo did nothing. At least Leo is being honest about his sexuality. He is not hideing behind a closed door. Leo at least said something about what went on & is still going on while the other before him pretended everything was & still is perfect. Give him a break. Stop blaming him for what the religious orders did. He cant fix it No one can. Give him a chance.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 3:37 PM

    Grooming 4 Cultural Marxism, 2 Remove Ireland’s ‘Christian’ Identity, separate Church+State, & bring in Gender Choice Manipulation of Minors in Schools. FG will RIG that Referendum too. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/14/more-scheming-outside-the-synod-soros-foundation-r/

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    Aug 25th 2018, 1:26 PM

    You are aware I,m gay ?

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    Aug 25th 2018, 10:20 PM

    @karl: God bless you…

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    Aug 25th 2018, 1:10 PM

    Typical

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    Aug 25th 2018, 6:38 PM

    Varadker Insulted the Pope, he did not speak for me!

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    Aug 25th 2018, 11:20 PM

    Much to be done? On the contrary. Quite easy. Sue church for compensation. If no money comes from the Vatican then start repossessing land owned by the church.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 4:43 PM

    Leo should have said how his government are compensating the 90% of child abuse cases which happen outside of church institutions or are they also doing far less than the Church and just deflecting their own guilt on to others.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 10:32 PM

    Well educated people in councils around the country , Dáil Éireann civil service , ministry of health and Gardai who couldn’t possibly have not known what was going on . Expecting an apology from this pope who is I’d say millions of times more dedicated to a decent cause then our latest mouthpiece is outrageous ! Bad things happen when good men stand and watch !

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    Aug 25th 2018, 10:19 PM

    Has he forgotten how the past governments help protect these abusers as well as state bodies.
    I remember a Would you believe program on healthy children in state and religious run schools who were surgically experimented on and that was experimental brain surgery on healthy children. In animals that is called vivisection.

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    Aug 25th 2018, 4:16 PM

    The prayers for the faithful

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    Aug 26th 2018, 1:56 AM

    His Minister Flanagan stated that An Grianan was to be accepted on the Magdalene Scheme and now we find that the Dept is not accepting our original applications and evidence and has in fact gone and changed the forms and now wants us to reapply. Totally outrageous and unacceptable to us. More abuse from this government of survivors

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    Aug 26th 2018, 3:30 PM

    And victims of smear test also
    And victims of finanical abuse by banks and goverment bodies
    And victims of homelessness by the State
    Just the tip if the iceberg
    So Leo stop sitting in your Glass house pal while all the windows are being smash by yourself the rest of the goverment
    YOU HYPOCRITE
    Do Something for the people of this Country or Resign Now as this is the least you can do

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    Aug 25th 2018, 7:30 PM

    And ask for your Preyers as we start our new journal together Amen……To day we took our place among the nations of the world who do not use bananas as common currency!!!!!Leo is indeed a great man.
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    Apr 6th 2019, 8:56 PM

    Minister R Quinn invented a 50 50 deal on survivors of abuse redress bill a bill the Government chose the secret indemnity agreement never even met Dail Eireann gates. This 50 50 deal was to actually pay the governments Bill for Legal fees to prevent the truth coming out. That Fianna Fail and fine Gael kept open british invention of 1800 century prisons for children these Government partys used these Illegal Institutions to save on taxes the first signs of privatization throwing anything and enyone that was going cost the Government in, while they wanted to invest taxes else where other than on tax paid services such as for education.

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    Apr 6th 2019, 8:44 PM

    THEN WHY DOES HE NOT EVEN START ? I have never known a Government party to LIE so much heeven had tha Balls to BACK the CRUEL CARANUA FUND who earn massive wages and were secretly paying 30, 000 to 100,000 to certain people then when CAUGHT his govenment invented another Application and if survivors did not resign they were IGNORED because the second application would only limit survivors at most 15,000 and this was TAXED DONATIONS by the TAX PAYER since 1916. since when does a Government owe a MORAL OBLIGATION to a TAX PAYER? oh of course they charged the victims of cultural abuse that led to sexual abuse physical abuse emotional abuse but if he admits the government were guilty of running illegal institutions then he would HAVE TO do Something

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