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IT’S ALL JUST a bit odd, really.
Watching someone out of Dragon’s Den being asked if he’d disclose if he was a member of a secret sect isn’t something you see every day. But then again this is Ireland and this is the race for the Aras – and we haven’t even properly started yet.
But that’s what actually happened at Kildare County Council yesterday afternoon as four prospective presidential candidates made presentations to get on the ballot.
Around 40 or so local reps entered their chamber to hear presentations by four people; Gavin Duffy, Senator Joan Freeman, musician Jimmy Smyth and artist Kevin Sharkey.
Each had previously made their pitches to other councils – made the same speeches hoping what they say might ring true to the right people.
In order to get on the ballot, candidates need the support of four councils or 20 members of the Oireachtas.
Gavin Duffy
Gavin Duffy was first up.
He is running a campaign based on five separate pillars – youth, elder care, diversity, respect and working together and he’s so invested that he let us know that he’s remortgaged his house to fund his campaign.
Duffy was as you expected – it was a polished performance – it was professional if not a tad underwhelming. He also managed to bat away questions about his links to media mogul Denis O’Brien and also said that he would declare, if his bid to get on the ballot was successful, if he belonged to any secret organisation. (He said he didn’t.)
Questioned on his business links, Duffy said that in 20 years of business, he has only been in the employ of Denis O’Brien or any of the businesses he owns for the sum total of 40 hours. He was also asked about corruption. Yes, there is corruption, Duffy said, but he added he’d rather talk about all the good that the people of Ireland are doing.
Speaking of what he’d actually do if he became president, Duffy said he’d call for the establishment of an “Ireland International Youth Corps which our young people aged between 18 and 23 could join to serve their community at home for three months and then volunteer overseas in developing parts of the world”.
Duffy even had his own fancy booklets handed out to every councillor – every glossy flip of the page a reminder that this buck means business.
And just like that he was gone, a firm shake of the hand with the next contestant; Senator Joan Freeman.
Joan Freeman at this year's Darkness Into Light walk.Source: graphy: Sasko Lazarov/Photocall Ireland
Joan Freeman
The senator, who founded Pieta House, is campaigning for more focus on the mental health of the nation.
But she couldn't resist having a dig at her rival before she kicked off in earnest.
Freeman said she "really" has links to Kildare - her mother being from the town. Duffy had earlier said that he had close ties to Kilare having being born there before moving to Meath.
Freeman made an impassioned speech declaring that her presidency would be one of compassion and kindness and would call for a greater number of resources for mental health.
She said she wants to siphon some of the presidential salary to create a system similar to Britain’s OBE/MBE scheme. She said that that money would best be used to celebrate the volunteers who “work so tirelessly” for their communities.
Freeman also faced the same question about how she intends on funding her campaign if she is successful in getting on the ballot - taking another sneaky dig at the now absent dragon.
She said that “sadly for me, I can’t remortgage my home – it’s mortgaged to the hilt. What I am doing is hoping that people will back me and donate to get me across that line".
Councillors asked the senator how, as someone with a huge amount of empathy and compassion, Freeman would get on with other world leaders like Trump.
The senator responded firmly; "I'd be able to take Trump on." Cue laughter, applause. She then relinquished the podium to make way for a different kind of potential candidate.
Jimmy Smyth performing.Source: Facebook
Jimmy Smyth
Jimmy Smyth is a lecturer and musician. He doesn't look like a president but that's the whole point it seems.
Wearing a brown leather jacket and clutching a satchel, Smyth arrived to the podium - people hadn't a clue what he was going to say - sometimes it appeared he didn't know either.
But despite a shaky start, Smyth managed to describe the Ireland he wants - a place where the arts are respected and where families don't have to go to food banks to survive.
He also spoke about the hidden homeless and cited that Ireland is a place where people could find themselves homeless in two months - "a bit like me I suppose", Smyth said, a potential insight into one of the reasons he's running his campaign.
The guitarist described how he was being described a negative person - he says he isn't and that he has "his finger on the pulse of the social zeitgeist".
He said that Ireland had become a state where "bankers and developers are given VIP status instead of the poets and dreamers". He continued by saying that "there is something rotten in our republic" when food banks and soup kitchens are in high demand, that we've been "saddled with a debt and have rewarded crookedness".
As he was being questioned by the councillors whose votes he was looking to secure, Smyth said something which summed up this race so far. It was blunt. It was searing and it was true.
He said:
What would I do about the homelessness crisis as president? Nothing, I suppose. I can't. I haven't the power. I'd just have to raise awareness.
Smyth intends to keep travelling around the councils in a bid to get on the ballot.
Kevin SharkeySource: RollingNews.ie
Kevin Sharkey
The Ireland artist Kevin Sharkey wants to cultivate is one of gratitude and kindness.
The controversial potential candidate, who has felt the ire of Twitter mobs for his support of British far right leader Tommy Robinson among others, is a confident man. He communicates his message superbly - he's charismatic and truly believes that he can be the next president of Ireland.
Not only does he think he can win the election, he believes that he will be one of the best presidents Ireland has ever had.
Sharkey detailed the horrific abuse he both witnessed and experienced at the hands of the Catholic Church. He told a particularly harrowing story of being sent back to an orphanage by his family when he was 12 years old. When he walked back into the orphanage, he said he witnessed a Christian Brother molesting a young boy in full view of the other boys.
Sharkey said he will always remember the faces of the abused boys two brothers as they watched their younger brother get molested. It was at this moment, Sharkey recalled, that he knew the difference between good and evil - something he said he carries to this day. Sharkey said that the early foundation of his moral compass is one of the reasons which make him a suitable candidate.
As mentioned earlier, Sharkey is no stranger to controversy. His support of Donald Trump has also ruffled a few feathers. His reaction when this question was posed to him? He said he doesn't support Trump, he supports democracy and that people shouldn't give out and bay for political blood "just because your side lost".
He also said he was defending democracy when he backed Tommy Robinson - an anti-Muslim activist who was recently jailed, and subsequently released on appeal, for contempt of court.
Despite these blips, Sharkey put in a solid performance in front of a sometimes hostile crowd.
Whether he gets the backing of the councils he needs remains to be seen but one thing is for sure, Sharkey is backing himself.
Yesterday proved a number of things to me; this race is only starting and there's going to be plenty more twists, turns and tangles before we know who the next president is.
One thing we found out for sure though: this race is going to be gas.
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Soon he will send Irish troops to join the new EU army…without consulting the electorate.
@Fred Croydon: 60, will they be part of Grandad’s army and what do you see up there in your ivory tower?
@Christian White:
They need to pay them a living wage first
@Fred Croydon: ALL welfare recepients? The sick, disabled, pensioners? How about nobody. Why should we send our young men and women out to fight other people’s wars that are generally instigated by armchair generals? Our country needs to remain neutral.
@Fred Croydon: Don’t conscription them into the Army. Make them do manual labour.
@Síghle A Ni Ainle: No, but you can be sure that those on long term job seekers would find a job fairly quickly after hearing the news. Flush out the frauds
@Fred Croydon: would bankers and developers supported by politicians who facilitated in their gangesterism that brought the country to it’s knees be included in that statement. Typical Blueshirt ideology.
@Christian White: Rubbish. Pesco is not an EU Army. It’s a sensible collaboration of defence forces. If we are to rely on the EU for assistance in defence, which we already do, then we should collaborate with them.
@James O’Nolan: collaboration is the correct word to use in this context. Afghanistan, Iraq when European troops went to war to support U.S. and British impearlism. Granted they did not go under European banner.If the situation again occurred you can be sure the fools who sold our neutrality would be first to offer the services of Irish troops.The cost of this farce would go along way to try to come to terms with the national disaster of homelessness and a crumbling health service. There again they would probably give the money to repay European banks for the gangesterism of the Irish banks.
@Fred Croydon: no have a referendum and whoever voted yes it will be there sons and daughters who will be conscripted to go and die in any war that will undoubtedly arise…I wonder how many blue shirts would be in favour then? Cowardly f*cks…
@Fred Croydon: by sending then off to a foreign country id like to see you get off your ass and join the army. You probably work for the government or receive HAP or part time welfare or child support or your a farmer dealing with the CAP or your one of the 51 percent of the population receiving some form of welfare but naw i know your logic welfare sponges should all be kicked off the dole and let the money go back up to the top where its spent on overpriced shit that doesn’t support jobs. You’ll stop complaining quickly when consumer spending takes a nose dive and you loose your job. I cant see it now you’ll be back on here saying what idiots idea was it to throw everyone off welfare.
Cue the Europhobes and Brexiteers telling us how PESCO is a European Army and Ireland shouldn’t pull its weight in our union. The world has changed, and the United States and the United Kingdom are no longer close allies. We need cooperation between all 27 states.
@Chip Lonergan: Well, how are they closer than our EU partners?
@George Hogan: culturally, linguistically, historically.
@George Hogan: not to mention the overwhelming majority of our trade is with Britain and the United States.
@Christian White: that’s a myth and a dangerous one. The overwhelming majority of our trade is with our fellow member states.
@Christian White: How about political and economically?…our exports to the EU are greater than those to the US and GB combined…with a growing divergence year-on-year in favour of greater EU trade! There has also been a great shift in the sense of commonality among middle class Europeans; with a greater number of middle class Europeans identifying as having more in common with other EU middle class citizens than other cohorts in the own cities. The future is now and it’s European!
@Darren Bates:
United States: US$33.2 billion (25.9% of total Irish exports)
United Kingdom: $16.3 billion (12.7%)
Belgium: $16.3 billion (12.7%)
Germany: $8.4 billion (6.6%)
Switzerland: $6.9 billion (5.4%)
Netherlands: $6.5 billion (5.1%)
France: $5.4 billion (4.2%)
China: $3.3 billion (2.6%)
Spain: $3.2 billion (2.5%)
Japan: $3.1 billion (2.4%)
Italy: $2.6 billion (2.1%)
Australia: $1.6 billion (1.3%)
Israel: $1.6 billion (1.3%)
Poland: $1.5 billion (1.2%)
Mexico: $1.5 billion (1.2%)
Here is top 15 as of 2016
@Chip Lonergan: Building Europe, The Cultural Politics of European Integration, Shore Cris, Routledge, 2006
@Simon O Flaherty: there’s no ‘Belgium, Germany, Switzerland, Netherlands, France, Spain, Italy, Poland’ – they’re all part of our one common area (yes, even the Swiss much to the annoyance of Britain who will never get the same trade deal as the EFTA states have). Try again son.
@Chip Lonergan: I think he means our only friends and allies are in the EU….Cant be allies with English speaking countries anymore….
@Number 19:
The EU is about shared sovereignty. No one is handing over control. We are European. As Europeans, we can negotiate and compete with big entities such as the US, China, Japan, India, Brazil, Merco-Sud, etc. It’s a natural evolution, EU, NAFTA, Merco-Sud, ASEAN, etc. The 21st. century is no place for small individual countries to be isolated and compete against such giants; they’ll be gobbled up!
@Number 19: You sound paranoid; like someone is coming to get you! Rather than dismiss others’ opinions, why don’t you provide some concrete reasons why the EU is bad. Something like, leaving the EU will mean €30 million a week for our HSE?
@Number 19: I’d get angry if I answered your question but since you insist, we haven’t handed over an iota of power to any ‘foreign’ entity. This is OUR entity, where we elect our representatives to the parliament directly and our commissioners and council through our governments. You are obviously a fearful eurosceptic snowflake who feels slightly emboldened by the likes of Ming Flanagan, Donald Trump, Nigel Farage or Paul Murphy; all of whom get their support from either small culchie towns or inward looking suburbia. Well I can tell you one thing, you are in the minority in Ireland and in Europe and you’ll be made feel that way by people like me.
@Number 19: Britain invaded us and undemocratically linked our kingdom with their k
@George Hogan: …kingdom. We voted to be part of our natural homeland that is the EU, which is admired throughout the world. Merco-Sud can only dream of what the EU has achieved.
@Number 19: ___ You might try controlling your own emotions.
You mentioned the Lisbon Treaty; it has been reiterated time and time again that the Irish people voted no as they were unhappy with the Treaty as it originally stood. Changes were made to the treaty and we were given the democratic option to vote again. All perfectly democratic.
@Number 19: As Europeans, we have shared values. For example, the EU doesn’t permit Capital Punishment, whereas the US does. The EU provides greater social protection than the US or China, for example. And as a group of people with shared values, we can vote for legislation based on shared identities. Young middle-class educated people are more tolerant and older less-educated people are more reactionary. Older educated and less well educated are more inclined to support Governments who offer greater social welfare protection. Younger educated and less educated people are more interested in reduced taxes. Urban people tend to be less supportive of the CAP than rural people across Europe. We don’t need to operate at a national level for all things. As Europeans, we can work together.
@Number 19:
One wonders for how many decades now have people been predicting the collapse of the EU/EEC.
@Number 19: Both Irish and English are Indo-European languages; Irish from the Celtic group and English from the Germanic group. Our earliest ancestors came from mainland Europe and modern Dublin is an admix of people from Denmark, Norway, Normandy and later from Britain and later still from everywhere else. Culturally, the Irish have enriched Europe since Columbanus and our own National Saint hails from France or U.K. Our literature, while unique, presents as part of undisputed European canon. We can have multiple identities: Dublin/Irish/European/World citizen. Why limit your horizon to a single identity?
@Number 19: People have been saying that since day one.
@Number 19: i dont think for a minute you are Irish!!
@Number 19: Yes, you can. But in doing so you deny yourself the existential diversity which is a central building block to human cultural enrichment. Your loss, my friend!
@Number 19: Exactly….?
For a lot of army folk the only time they get a half decent wage for their families is when they’re away from home serving. Maybe look at that, Leo.
Why are so many people using this to lambast Leo? All he is doing is acknowledging the work of Irish men and women in a foreign country performing a dangerous role in the proud tradition of the Irish Army. That is what he is doing, the colour of his socks is irrelevant.
@Shea: he is staging yet another photo op, that’s all this is. Probably an idea dreamt up by his strategic communications unit.
@Shea: Thats easy Shea, the Journal has gone to the dogs and is full on morons. Fair play to him for taking the time and Happy Christmas to all, especially those serving our country abroad.
@Shea: Should be irrelevant ….but Leo likes to show off his socks
@Paul P O’Sullivan: He is paid to “take the time”
@Shea:
Socky Varadkar is a neo-fascist who hates this country.
He and the blueshirts are deliberately driving people into homelessness.
He is a human being of absolutely no merit.
@Christian White: they didn’t dream it up, the Taoiseach has traditionally acknowledged our troops serving overseas on peace keeping missions at this time of year, and rightly so.
There will be a lot more Irish men & women away from home when the European army is in full swing thanks to Fianna Gaels acquiescence to their euro paymasters. Not to worry Mr Varadkar – you’ll be dining out on your ex Taoiseach status & too comfortably bolstered by your multi pension payouts to give a damn.
@Setrakian: Perhaps you should actually familiarise yourself with the pesco deal that was signed. There’s nothing about us joining this non existent European army. Also, we’re already part of the EU battlegroups and nobody complained about that!
@Gareth Murphy: perhaps you should consider that a European Army is very likely given that Jean Claude & Co are very much in favour of such an army & we all know they get what they want irrespective of what poor Paddy thinks or wants.
The greatest xmas present ever; Leo gets lost in Lebanon. #leoslostinlebanon
@Declan: He was finally located after a satellite in space found him via a signal from his zany socks.
A small neutral country with no history of colonialism . He doesn’t know much about his history does he . What was the Connaught Rangers , Dublin fusiliers, Royal Irish Regiment , Inniskillen fusiliers and so on .
@Tommy Whelan: How many times does this need to be said, Tommy? It’s like talking to a brick wall.
Irishmen serving in the British Army is not the same as the Irish Army. Varadkar’s statement is correct – as a country, the Irish state has no history of colonialism. Whether Irishmen fought in British colonial armies is irrelevant. They weren’t representing the Irish people – our Defence Forces are representing us.
@Malachi: so your saying the people of Ireland before independence was not Irish . It’s good to know that the title Irish came about after 1923 and no one before 1923 has a right to call themselves Irish . A country that has no history of colonialism . That’s a funny one .
@Tommy Whelan: No. That’s not what I’m saying. Do try and keep up.
Irishmen (as in men from Ireland, capish?) serving in the British Army, though they were Irish did NOT represent the Irish state with their service, pre-1923 or post-1923. The Irish Defence Forces DO represent us.
If you cannot get that very simple principle straight in your head then there’s not really any point discussing it further.
@Malachi: he does not mention the history of the Irish state . He says the history of this island which did not start in 1923 .
@Malachi: except when the Irish colonised Scotland back in the day.
@Tommy Whelan: British Regiments under a British sky.
@Dermot Lane: the Irish colonised many parts wales and England long before they came here . https://youtu.be/4vd8BnQJc5Y
@Tommy Whelan: They were colonial units of the British army.
Statement from Socky Varadkar
‘Thanks boys, sure you may as well stay here.
After all when you come back you’ll be homeless but this is a GOOD thing.
Let’s keep the recovery going,
Do you like my socks?’
@frank murphy: FG troll on the spin payroll
#trollpayroll
@Declan: in fairness 3 posts on the one thread in relation to Leo’s socks, the chap should be called out on it. The first post wasn’t funny, the second and third even less so.
Yes it is tough. I miss my son who had to leave during austerity.
It’s not as bad as being on the street homeless, damp and cold glancing at all the jolly xmas drinkers and shoppers.
If the situation wasn’t bad enough , Leo touches down to push moral right down for the Christmas period
I agree for once with Leo. It is a lonely time to be away from home. Just to bring you back to Earth Leo, it’s a lonely time to be in hotels or B&B.s. for thousands of children or the homeless, which you and your Thatcherite government have failed miserably to rectify. Christmas greeting to the Irish troops serving overseas. Remember when Kenny was photographed wearing a U.N. helmet. Well Leo since then it has gone from a major crisis to a national disaster.
I hope he goes to Beirut too and not just the tense areas near the ‘israel’ boarder,There’s a lot of fun things to do in Beirut, a lot of clubs and concerts of the arab pop stars :D especially with christmas and new years
Well done, a countrys leader SHOULD visit their military personnel in the dangerous locations that they are sent to for long periods of time, doing great humanitarian AND military work. PESCO is not the EU army, Ireland is not and never HAS been a neutral country, we have never signed nor ratified hague nor geneva conventions on neutrality, its not a constitutional issue, we have one of the largest maritime domains in the EU, a border with a (soon to be ) non EU country, a history of thousands of civilians deaths at the hands of terrorists, and the lowest defence spend in Europe. time to stand up and be counted, shoulder to shoulder with our EU allies. Onwards and upwards for the DF. Just pay them a decent wage. To the insular, inward looking, naysayers and peace-niks, remove the tinfoil hats and head up into the wicklow mountains, there are plenty of trees awaiting your hugs.
@Ros Aodha: speaking of terrorists you mean British forces and their para military allies.
Yeah! We will be joining the new world order. Coloured socks and all
Thought this was a José Mourinho quote!
His other mistake is that Ireland is not neutral . The Irish republic is . The six counties is part of NATO that deploys Irish units to combat zones across the world .
Leo should be more acutely aware of this fact than most people in the country given the homeless crisis but I think he’s missed the point yet again, playing to the gallery again, concentrating too much on the image he’s so desperately trying to portray.
Why is it tough…they knew what was ahead when they signed up…they also get well paid …
Well stay at home.
Since when did we stop calling it ‘the’ Lebanon?
@TradingDuck: definite articles in front of countries names is a vestige of colonialism I believe. Like calling us ‘the Ireland’, or why you’d call Gambia ‘the Gambia’ but not Zambia ‘the Zambia’.
Was a, waaa
Booo hooo
Grow up leo
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