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Sandwiches being dumped after the papal mass. Liveline

Thousands of sandwiches thrown in skip after Papal Mass because charities refused them says OPW

The OPW was responding to a caller on RTÉ’s Liveline who spotted catering staff throwing out unopened sandwiches behind the food stalls.

THE OFFICE OF PUBLIC Works has said that the thousands of sandwiches thrown out after the papal mass were offered to charities who said they were not in a position to accept them. 

“They explained they were not in a position to accept sandwiches which were 36 and even 48 hours old, no matter how well they were stored in the meantime,” the OPW said in a statement. 

It was responding to a caller on RTÉ’s Liveline who spotted catering staff throwing out unopened sandwiches after the World Meeting of Families closing mass in the Phoenix Park on Sunday. 

“There was a skip, full of what looked like sandwiches so I kept an eye on it.

“Then I saw more staff coming out and throwing more sandwiches into the top of the skip, all brand new unopened sandwiches,” the man told Joe Duffy. 

He said he was also in view of thousands of pilgrims leaving the main arena and presumed the sandwiches were being disposed of due to being unsold. 

In response to the man’s query as to why the sandwiches were not donated to charity or given out to pilgrims, the OPW said that before the event and in anticipation of the risk of food waste it contacted a few charities. 

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"Many traders also attempted to have them distributed to charities but were unsuccessful for the same reasons.  Many others just gave them away for free to members of the public as they left the site," the OPW said in a statement.

"The rest had to be dumped.

It is safe to say that the number of sandwiches dumped was proportional to the difference between expected attendance and actual attendance.  

It is believed that in Knock, local nuns had leftover sandwiches taken away for distribution to charities. 

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    Mute Tweed Cap
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    Aug 29th 2018, 8:45 AM

    “Ah Joe, it was tettible Joe. The sambos Joe, just wasted”

    And was it the high fiber brown bread too caller?

    “It was Joe, and the expensive stuff too. Goodness of both Joe. Shockin so it was. Tettible altogether Joe.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 9:10 AM

    @Tweed Cap: thanks for that pal best one I’ve read in weeks lol

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    Aug 29th 2018, 9:39 AM

    @stephen lawless: What Stephen said!

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    Aug 29th 2018, 6:30 PM

    @Tweed Cap: You’ve absolutely nailed it !
    Red Top Radio Joe, the real people’s Pope !!

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    Aug 29th 2018, 8:41 AM

    They should have asked the pope to convert it to wine before he left!

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    Aug 29th 2018, 9:15 AM

    @Padraig Lehany: I say your on the brink of your own slot at the laughter lounge

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    Aug 29th 2018, 9:19 AM

    @Padraig Lehany:
    A transformation to Avocado Toast might have been a better bet for the times that are in it!

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    Mute Patrick J. O'Rourke
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    Aug 29th 2018, 11:41 AM

    @Padraig Lehany: that might not have gone too well as bread turns into raw meat when the priest does his magic. H&S issues might arise.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 1:32 PM

    @Patrick J. O’Rourke: the cannibals.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 6:31 PM

    @Ohhh_reeally: no but you’re football team are

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    Aug 29th 2018, 6:32 PM

    @Ohhh_reeally: No but your football team are!!

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    Aug 29th 2018, 6:33 PM

    @Ohhh_reeally: no but your football team are!!!

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    Mute scutterpumps
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    Aug 29th 2018, 8:59 AM

    This is typical of the charities, if sandwiches are good enough for joe public, they are good enough for the charities.

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    Mute Joey Navinski
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    Aug 29th 2018, 9:43 AM

    @scutterpumps: maybe the charities didn’t have the necessary storage space or distribution facilities at such short notice and the quality was nothing to do with it.

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    Mute Karen Wellington
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    Aug 29th 2018, 9:49 AM

    @scutterpumps: they’re old sandwiches (48 hours) and joe public didn’t want them when they were fresh.

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    Mute ed w
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    Aug 29th 2018, 9:52 AM

    @scutterpumps: no its a food safety issue. We run an event and we give away unopened packs of bread an cakes but we can’t give trays of sandwiches as you can’t prove how long they are made up

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    Mute Ruth Barry
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    Aug 29th 2018, 1:20 PM

    @scutterpumps: it’s because of HACCP regulations. That’s why charities seeking food drives always ask for non perishable foods like pulses, pastas and tinned foods. If you’re collecting perishable foods, they must be stored within guidelines of HACCP regulations and even these have a tight time period in which they can be accepted. I think they must be fresh fruit or veg or meat and be within their sell by date. Sandwiches have a shelf life but I can’t remember what it is. That’s why charities can’t accept them.

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    Mute Donal Desmond
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    Aug 29th 2018, 5:09 PM

    @scutterpumps: I’m sure the criminals both Religious and political dined well at the taxpayers expence. Yet you attack charities.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 5:16 PM

    @Donal Desmond: idiotic statement

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    Mute Dave Walsh
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    Aug 29th 2018, 9:10 AM

    Sandwiches are the cause of most cases of food poisoning,they have a very short shelf life,its a pity they have to go to waste but health and safety first.

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    Mute Michael Kavanagh
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    Aug 29th 2018, 9:17 AM

    @Dave Walsh:
    True.
    I knew a Health Inspector who always referred to coleslaw as ‘Salmonella Slurry’!

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    Mute James O'Brien
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    Aug 29th 2018, 8:38 AM

    This was explained already on liveline why repeat it.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 8:40 AM

    @James O’Brien: Maybe because not everybody listens to Liveline?

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    Aug 29th 2018, 8:40 AM

    @James O’Brien: I don’t listen to Liveline!

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    Aug 29th 2018, 8:52 AM

    @Darren McCormack: you b don’t know what you are missing.omg

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    Aug 29th 2018, 8:55 AM

    @James O’Brien: really slow news day today.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 8:56 AM

    @James O’Brien: eh cos most people under 50 don’t listen to that whinging twonk Duffy?

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    Aug 29th 2018, 10:05 AM

    @Nial D: Try most people under 60 don’t listen to that whinge bag.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 5:18 PM

    @Darren McCormack: dont blame you!!!

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    Aug 29th 2018, 5:20 PM

    @James O’Brien: because there is no other story available at the moment so that people can attack the church, down with that sort of thing, we must have one at least every 12 hours

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    Aug 29th 2018, 8:10 PM

    @Darren McCormack: you should get out more then

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    Aug 30th 2018, 7:59 AM

    @Nucky: That doesn’t make sense. Try again.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 9:23 AM

    Yes we have a homeless crisis, I dont think we have starvation crisis. Charities run on a shoestring and still operate with high standards and many have existing supply chains in space. What were they to do, cancel all their existing stock and plans to take a van load of sambos that were probably going to go off in few days.

    We will hear the same thing next week after electric picnic – why couldnt all those dirty soiled torn tents be donated to charity.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 9:34 AM

    @Joe Clery:
    And wellingtons

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    Aug 29th 2018, 9:34 AM

    @Joe Clery:
    And Wellington’s

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    Aug 29th 2018, 11:15 AM

    @Aine O Connor: which is it?

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    Mute Paul Harvey
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    Aug 29th 2018, 8:41 AM

    Could the pope not done a reverse loaves and fishes.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 8:51 AM

    @Paul Harvey: The loaves and fishes was a bit of a waste also.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 10:00 AM

    Should have catered for the feeding of the 5000 rather than the 500000.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 10:52 AM

    So charities wouldn’t take them because they were made two days before but it’s perfectly fine to sell the same sandiwches to the public? Selling them is ok but giving them away is not?

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    Mute Derek Walsh Ⓥ
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    Aug 29th 2018, 10:43 AM

    Why precisely was the OPW catering this event?

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    Aug 29th 2018, 5:22 PM

    @Derek Walsh Ⓥ: I presume because the park and cafes are under their remit

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    Aug 29th 2018, 10:02 AM

    Wait till god hears about this

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    Aug 29th 2018, 9:54 AM

    My son caught a lovely chicken and stuffing which a kind creature threw over the fence – scoffed on the bus home. Praise the Lord!!

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    Aug 29th 2018, 10:42 AM

    Just a thought as I don’t know the ins and outs of farming, but could they not have been given to Farmers to feed the likes of their pigs or any other animal that can’t read nor care about a sell by date!?

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    Aug 29th 2018, 10:59 AM

    @Julie-Ann Mc Guirk: I don’t think you should feed ham sandwiches to pigs. Feeding livestock with spoiled food just sounds like a good way to contaminate the food chain from the beginning.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 12:34 PM

    @Julie-Ann Mc Guirk: and UK farmers fed processed beef to cows, resulting in BSE and destroying the UK cattle industry

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    Aug 29th 2018, 4:55 PM

    @Vocal Outrage: Yep, it goes back to the roots of certain cultures and religions only eating meat that chews the cud. Pigs will eat anything including humans hence the paranoia was born and unleashed the religious interpretations. Grinding up animals and feeding them to the same animals was never going to end well.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 11:52 AM

    Could’ve used them to build houses

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    Mute James Mc Loughlin
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    Aug 29th 2018, 12:20 PM

    And look at the muck they served the soldiers,the catering company or who ever made up these so called meals,should be sacked,just goes to show the respect this government has for our troops

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    Aug 29th 2018, 3:47 PM

    Ome Christmas my Wife and I went to SVP to donate a large fresh sealed rolled ham. We were told that they could not possibly take such a product as they could not give such to a family. Makes you wonder if it is all just about the money that they want.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 12:14 PM

    Could they not have put them in the brown bin?

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    Aug 29th 2018, 9:53 AM

    All egg ?

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    Aug 29th 2018, 10:42 AM

    @eastsmer: on face.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 10:26 AM

    Ireland is a rich country.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 10:45 AM

    @Paddy Power: unfortunately people look for opportunities everywhere.

    If one person receiving a dodgy sambo from a charity gets sick and ends up having e.g. a grave listeria or e.coli infection in this country, they are likely to sue the charity for huge damages attributed by the court.

    We are indeed a rich country aren’t we?

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    Aug 29th 2018, 10:57 AM

    There was far more waste at the papal visit than a few stale sandwiches thats for sure. Why would anyone expect anyone to eat sandwiches made god knows when and sitting around for days surely things arent that bad. Stale sandwiches would make good animal food chickens, pigs etc .. definately not fit for human consumption.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 10:30 AM

    Beggars being choosers.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 10:57 AM

    @@slemon: the charities weren’t begging, they were offered gone-off food and obvious reasons refused to take it.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 11:40 AM

    @Karen Wellington: so the CEO of these charities who are on 6 figure salaries refused food, I’m sure the people they help on a day to day basis would not have turned down this food.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 12:00 PM

    @scutterpumps: no one wants to eat rancid sandwiches, people wouldn’t even eat them fresh and mayonnaise doesn’t improve with age. They were essentially looking for someone else to take on and dispose of their waste and the charities in question weren’t stupid enough to agree to that.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 12:17 PM

    @Karen Wellington: Did you read the stories. Its not that people “didn’t want them fresh”. Its that feck all people turned up and they’d make a lot more than they needed.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 12:42 PM

    @Weldoninhio: so the leftover sandwiches were wanted? Supply was well above demand and the small number of people who showed up didn’t want to eat hundreds of sandwiches each, i.e. they didn’t want them.
    Charities and the homeless aren’t sub-human, they don’t need to be grateful for the offer of a 2 day old egg-salad sandwich that will almost certainly make them sick.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 10:12 AM

    I am sure the people who made the decision not to share the sandwiches with the charities never went hungry. Many people would have been grateful for a bite.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 10:24 AM

    @James Gaughan: wow, that’s a first – doesn’t even read the full headline before posting.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 3:09 PM

    @Matt Connolly: That’s not a first, sadly, let’s be honest.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 3:58 PM

    It is poor ould Mrs Doyle that I feel for the most. The poor thing must have been heartbroken. She must have been up all night making those sandwiches only to see them being binned. “Ah, go on, go on, go on!”

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    Aug 29th 2018, 3:25 PM

    Our daily bread is apparently only good to eat on the day.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 12:55 PM

    A few loaves and fishes would have been plenty

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    Aug 29th 2018, 5:32 PM

    I don’t know how it works now but 15/20 years ago any food (sealed sliced pans etc) would not be accepted from shops unless you could guarantee the same amount every night, it was not the food that was the problem but the supply

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    Aug 29th 2018, 4:30 PM

    SHUD JUST GIVE AWAY !! NO COP ON

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    Aug 29th 2018, 5:18 PM

    Now we know the real truth behind the loaves and the fishes.

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    Aug 29th 2018, 5:35 PM

    Mrs Doyle will be raging

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    Mute Rich Walsh
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    Aug 29th 2018, 2:40 PM

    They were egg…

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    Mute Brian Flavin
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    Aug 29th 2018, 12:04 PM

    Good unopened sandwich throw waste bin & should give to homeless

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    Mute Roger Camp
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    Aug 30th 2018, 7:45 PM

    They are not allowed by EU law, too take them on, that is why they refused them

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