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Wreath laid by the British Ambassador leans against the head stone in Glasnevin Cemetery. Sam Boal/Photocall Ireland

Calls to move Presidential Inauguration date as it will clash with Armistice Day memorial

Labour and Sinn Féin said the date should be changed.

THERE HAVE BEEN calls for the date of the Presidential Inauguration on 11 November to be changed as it takes place on the centenary of Armistice Day.

November 11 marks the signing of the treaty that ended the World War I and is commemorated every year.

Every year, a moment of silence is held on the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month to remember those that died in the war that ended in 1918.

The Irish president attends a memorial event every year. 

Speaking about the clash of dates, Health Minister Simon Harris said it is his understanding that it is a “logistical issue”. 

The current president’s term in office ends on 10 November, therefore determining that the ceremony for the new president is held the following day. 

“I’m sure the government will wish to reflect on this. I think it’s very important that Ireland continues to commemorate and recognise the participation of Irish individuals in World War I.

“I think as a country we have shown a maturing in relation to this in recent years in commemorating a whole range of events in a sensitive manner,” he said, adding: 

Many Irish people partook in the war and I think that it’s important that they are recognised and commemorated. I’m, sure that this is something that the government will reflect on further.
But I would make the point that there is a logistical issue in relation to the need to inaugurate a president.

Labour leader Brendan Howlin and Sinn Féin’s David Cullinane said the date of the inauguration should be changed.

Speaking on RTÉ’s News at One, Howlin said the Irish President should be available to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with other heads of states to commemorate the event.

Meanwhile, Sinn Féin’s David Cullinane said it is important the whoever wins can attend the annual memorial service. 

However, he said the “setting of the election and ceremony is a matter for the government”.

“If it can be changed obviously Sinn Féin would support it. We have no difficulty in principle to that… [the clash of dates] if it can be avoided, then it should be avoided,” he said. 

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    Mute wellyd
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    Jul 11th 2013, 5:11 PM

    Two years ago I had an accident that involved my hand getting cut with a chainsaw (seriously don’t ask!). It all healed up well but I developed a granuloma which is just basically a bump of gooey skin that healed to fast. I needed it removed and they gave me a date for six weeks later to get it removed. In the mean time I fell up the stairs causing the lump to just rip off. I rang to cancel the appointment because I obviously no longer needed it removed. Two years later I am still getting letters giving me new appointments because I didn’t show up for my previous one. I’ve rang every time I’ve gotten a letter to explain and they are still sending me letters. I think it’s about time that they started to worry about the people that really need day procedures and stop concerning themselves with people that don’t or aren’t bothered.

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    Mute Dave Sherman
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    Jul 11th 2013, 5:43 PM

    What happened?

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    Mute wellyd
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    Jul 11th 2013, 5:56 PM

    Holding a stick and it hopped when my dad was sawing it and it pulled my hand under the chainsaw! I now only have three and a half fingernails on one hand! But hey I look real cool now!

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    Mute DominicOShaughnessy
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    Jul 11th 2013, 5:44 PM

    Only when people need these services themselves or they see close friends and family suffering do they realize how big this problem is….to everyone else it’s just numbers. Our healthcare is nearly third world…god help anyone who needs it.

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    Mute significantrisk
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    Jul 11th 2013, 5:53 PM

    Our healthcare is world class – that’s part of the problem, illnesses that would previously have meant people would never even be considered for surgery are now just a routine part of the history.

    Waiting lists are due to a great many things – a big one being the difficulty in emptying beds once people are well. Funding has long since disappeared for things like step down or convalescence placements, so patients end up stuck in beds that could be used to reduce waiting lists.

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    Mute Sean Armstrong
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    Jul 11th 2013, 5:53 PM

    “Nearly third world”????? If you had ever seen a third world health system you would realise that, no matter what problems our system has, there is a VAST spectrum of quality between Ireland and the Third World.

    Idiot.

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    Mute Jed I. Knight
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    Jul 12th 2013, 7:36 AM

    I think Dominic meant in comparison to what it was, or could be, the quality of our Health System has seriously gone down hill in recent times.
    I was talking to a surgeon from Sudan a few weeks ago, he told me how he and a few colleagues wanted to kit out an entire operating theatre in the Sudan with all the equipment needed to run it, from monitors to lights and operating tables. If he bought them here he’d have to buy from a prescribed list of approved manufacturers and that would cost anywhere from 300k to 500k, far beyond their budget. He asked an engineer what he should do and was told to look elsewhere, he did. He got everything he needed for less than 30k, delivered, brand new, with guarantees and support. He and his colleagues are over the moon, they can now offer a state of the art service for free, as their clients have no money to pay – in the Third World.
    This is where we are going wrong. We, in the so called First World believe we have to have the equipment that carries the recognized brand names, it has to come from “approved lists” and not common sense. It should be a case of can it do the same job, is it half the price, or even better a quarter the price. If a surgeon can kit out an entire theatre for 1/10 the price it costs here then surely we’re doing something wrong.

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    Mute Eileen Roche
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    Aug 23rd 2013, 10:44 PM

    Jed I this is true, My husband lost hip due to infection in hospital, with only one hip he could not walk, I had to fight for almost a year with HSE for motor wheelchair, I was told it would be impossible as the ones they did have cost more than 8k, I went to a place that had the type of wheelchair my husband needed, the owner said he had his name registered with HSE and his Wchairs cost 1k. I wrote a letter to HSE asking why they used a dealer who was charging 8k, when they had another dealer with almost the same type of Wchair for 1k. The nurse who helped my husband at home read it and said she would like to take letter and show it to a few in HSE. Within 6 weeks my husband had his Wchair and guess who supplied it, the dealer at 1k. I asked then who was the dealer charging 8k, of course I got no reply this was 2 yrs ago. I can verify this at any time. The special bed my husband was given is actually rented from another company, seems a lot of these beds have been rented yearly by HSE along with a lot of other equipment for a very long time. Should I push my luck and ask how much they are paying for the bed/beds, also who these dealers/companies might be. I think people have a right to know where the millions are going.
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    Mute Mary Jordan
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    Jul 11th 2013, 5:24 PM

    Good friend of mine is waiting a year for a triple by-pass with no sign of him getting it!! Absolute disgrace!!

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    Jul 11th 2013, 4:51 PM

    Time to strike a deal with private hospitals.

    Ironically enough, i bet they can do a lot of procedures cheaper.

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    Jul 11th 2013, 5:13 PM

    Don’t know if appointments to see consultants count under this…but been waiting over 12 months to see a pain specialist now!

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    Mute Noble Gas
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    Jul 11th 2013, 9:53 PM

    There is a waiting list to see consultants. There is a whole series of layers before you even get in a list to get treated.

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    Mute Kerry Blake
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    Jul 11th 2013, 5:15 PM

    Another fail by Reilly.

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    Mute Jane Sherlock
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    Jul 11th 2013, 7:00 PM

    My brother has been waiting for hospital
    Appointment for a few months now, not terribly urgent but still needs treatment. Got appointment yesterday for, wait for it…….June 14. Rang hospital to see if it’s a mistake but no.

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    Mute Annemarie Doherty
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    Jul 11th 2013, 10:37 PM

    I have been waiting for a routine scan for 4 yrs and the hospital called me 3 weeks ago to find out if I wanted to stay on the waiting list …… My response to that person was ” well I’ve been waiting 4 yrs sure what’s another 4 ” one does not know what the other is doing in the HSE system . We are all just a number …

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    Jul 12th 2013, 4:13 AM

    Does having private health insurance makes any difference?

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