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Israel's Netta celebrates her win. SIPA USA/PA Images

Political rows over Eurovision have made headlines before - so what are the chances of an Irish withdrawal?

Rarely a year went by in the late 1970s without Turkey or Greece sitting out the event.

THE FIRST SUGGESTIONS that Ireland should stage a boycott of next year’s Eurovision sprang up on social media even before the Champagne corks had been swept from the floor in Portugal’s Altice Arena. 

Singer Netta’s triumph in the competition with a tune inspired by the #MeToo movement meant that Israel had won the right to stage the contest in 2019: “Next time in Jerusalem,” as the artist herself put it.  

Since then, a not-insignificant array of Irish personalities – from politicians to former song contest winners and presenters – have added their voices to calls for Ireland to stay away from the Israel-hosted show next year. 

Tánaiste Simon Coveney has said it’s not something the government would back, insisting that withdrawing from the songfest would only “polarise things even further”. Meanwhile, DUP leader Arlene Foster, reacting to Sinn Féin’s call for a boycott, observed on Twitter: “You couldn’t make it up!!!”

Eurovision boycotts have happened before, however. And not just once or twice. Rarely a year went by in the late 197os without Greece, Turkey or some other nation withdrawing from the contest for geopolitical reasons. 

Indeed, many Arab states who are entitled to take part under EBU rules have a longstanding policy of non-participation in the annual event – largely because of Israel’s presence. 

The first ever symbolic withdrawal from contest wasn’t as a result of political posturing, however. As Eurovision expert and RTÉ jury selector Paul G Sheridan explained, it was more to do with musical differences. 

“The very first one was in 1964,” Sheridan said. 

Sweden, who had been participating for six years up to that point, decided to boycott the ’64 contest. It was mainly to do with the fact that artists in the country regarded it at the time be a sort-of mediocre song festival. There was an artist’s strike in Sweden that year so they decided on that particular occasion not to participate.

A larger-scale withdrawal from the 1970 contest is (in Eurovision circles at least) the best known boycott of the competition. 

It was all down to what had happened the previous year when, for the first time in its decade-and-a-half history, four countries – the UK, Spain, France and the Netherlands – were declared joint winners. 

There was no rule to allow for a tie-break at the time, Sheridan explained. “The Scandinavians reckoned it was an absolute farce.” 

Finland, Sweden and Norway pulled out the following year, as did Portugal and Austria -  leaving just 12 countries to compete (this was the year, incidentally, of Ireland’s first win when Dana’s All Kind’s of Everything took the top prize). 

Greece and Turkey began their tit-for-tat withdrawals in the mid-70s in the wake of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus. It wasn’t until 1978 that both countries appeared together in the line-up. 

Around the same period, several North African countries had brief flirtations with the contest. Tunisia planned to enter, but then decided against it. Morocco actually did send an act in 1980, but haven’t been back since.

Turkey, meanwhile, hasn’t sent anyone to the contest since 2012. The head of the country’s national broadcaster said recently that they weren’t planning to return anytime soon, putting the decision down to the presence of LGBT singers.

Eastern tensions 

The Eurovision somehow managed to survive the fall of the Iron Curtain and the entire 1990s without any major diplomatic incidents. In more recent years, problems directly involving Russia or relating to disputes between countries within its sphere of influence have cropped up from time to time. 

Georgia pulled out in 2009 after a row over lyrics making less-than-oblique references to Vladimir Putin, for instance; in 2012, the contest was staged in Azerbaijan but Armenia pulled out; and tensions over Crimea led to the banning of Russia’s singer from the Ukraine-hosted contest just last year. 

The European Broadcasting Union – which is, essentially, an alliance of public broadcasters in Europe and surrounding nations – is responsible for staging and distributing the contest each year. As Sheridan, our song contest expert, explained, the union tends not to impose sanctions on member countries when disputes like this arise. 

They were going to impose sanctions on the Ukraine which eventually didn’t come to pass because they were happy with how the Ukranians staged the contest that year.

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In terms of the Irish campaign to withdraw from the 2019 contest, almost 8,000 people have now signed an online petition backing the move.

Figures like Christy Moore, former song contest winner Charlie McGettigan and Senator David Norris staged a high-profile demonstration earlier this summer throwing their support behind the boycott – citing continued human rights abuses and breaches of international law. 

The Israeli government, as you might imagine, has said it is “saddened” at the boycott effort and stressed the contest’s status as a cultural event. Past Israeli artists, notably 1998 winner Dana International, had also played a role in bringing the issue of trans identity into the mainstream, a statement from the embassy noted

Political commentator and Eurovision aficionado Johnny Fallon says there would invariably be knock-on complications in the unlikely event of an Irish boycott. 

“There have been contests in Israel before,” he said – noting that Ireland has never withdrawn from the competition for political reasons over our five decade Eurovision history. 

To actually withdraw is making a very political statement and that is much more political than actually attending it, to be quite honest.
It does politicise the competition and there would be knock on effects from that then… Do you then have to stay out every year that a country like Israel might win? Do you then have to boycott other countries too, like Russia?
We could end up with a litany of precedents because once you’ve decided to politicise it you really are politicising it to a huge degree. 
Fallon added:
If you look at the history of Eurovision the countries where this has happened, it’s mostly the North African countries who for years have been entitled to go and to attend and some of them have – but they have all pulled out because of Israel’s involvement in it. So you tie yourself into it – there will always be a knock-on effect.

Dana Israel performance 1998 Eurovision winner for Israel Dana International. PA Archive / PA Images PA Archive / PA Images / PA Images

The final say on Irish participation rests with RTÉ – and so far there’s been no indication of any surprise announcements from the national broadcaster regarding the 2019 contest. 

In fact, according to Sheridan, the broadcaster’s head of delegation made it clear at an RTÉ-hosted Eurovision forum last month that he was not in favour of a boycott, insisting that it was a cultural event that should not be politicised. 

In Israel, meanwhile, plans to stage the contest are proceeding apace. And in spite of Netta’s exhortation back in May that Jerusalem would host the event, it’s been named as just one of three possible venues for the 2019 Eurovision. 

We’ll likely hear further pleas, from home and abroad, not to politicise the song contest. 

Judging by the early evidence, however, Israel’s hosting of the event will likely lead to a few more diplomatic wrangles between now and next summer. 

Already in Israel, senior politicians are taking aim at the EBU after media reports of a letter from the broadcasting union insisting that visitors are allowed into the country for the contest regardless of their political opinions.

The public security minister called the letter ridiculous, and implored that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu should refuse to accede to such “delusional conditions”.

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    Mute johngahan
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:17 AM

    Nama is probably running out of opportunities to sell-off taxpayer assets at a massive discount.

    Any building that sells at twice the price Nama sold it for within 12 months should be subject to a 75% capital gains tax, and the original sale investigated.

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    Mute David Burke
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:48 AM

    NAMA sold of it’s foreign properties first while waiting for the Irish market to recover. It needed to start selling off some of it’s Irish properties at some stage and out of tens of billions in properties there are going to be some sales which we aren’t happy with.

    The thing is though, commercial property has had a V-shaped bounce back and the recovery growth is unlikely to continue at the same pace over the next few years. Prices collapsed and then sharply recovered but are going to grow at a slower pace similar to that of economy after the recovery.

    So essentially we are talking about setting up a state owned property development company. I think there are risks and benefits around that but a reasonable discussion should take place. There aren’t enormous profits likely to be made going forward but it could be a useful piece of public policy.

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    Mute John S
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:17 AM

    Yes because woe betide someone might see a bargain and make a few quid on something. By that logic Nama would never sell anything in case it went up in value, do you want them around forever?

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    Mute Ronan Mc Namara
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:48 AM

    This is positive news the quicker NAMA is gone the better for the country…..people said it could not work…. well it looks like it has.

    Investors are being influenced by the end of December deadline for obtaining capital gains tax relief over the next seven years.

    Recent proposals on mortgage finance announced by the Central Bank will have a direct impact on the market from now to December 2014.

    It looks like a scramble for the next 8 weeks for First Time Buyers and a cooling off in January.

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    Mute Kevin Carroll
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:12 AM

    That’s great, selling national assets at knock down prices to foreigners only to sell them back to us again at inflated prices, while greedy millionaires get debt write offs. A f*ckin master stroke!!!

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    Mute Foreigneachfear
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:27 AM

    Ha, I’ve heard developers are buying them back though other investors. There s a tribunal down the road for nama no doubt.

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    Mute David Burke
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:49 AM

    You mean market prices. Which is how much they are worth.

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    Mute Tom Red
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:20 AM

    NAMA has being having a 75% OFF sale on everything it’s sold since day one…..
    With NAMA it’s not what you know,
    But who you know that counts…

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    Mute Frederick Constant
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:43 AM

    Meaning what, exactly?

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    Mute The Guru
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:16 AM

    €10m profit in a year flipping a property. You have to have money to make money!

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    Mute Frederick Constant
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:09 AM

    That’s ambitious, but well done on delivering on your mandate. This is another big step towards national re-normalisation.

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    Mute Kerry Blake
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:10 AM

    Selling off property cheaply is normalisation? Really?

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    Mute John Moynihan
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:31 AM

    Why does NAMA need to close? Link it in with NABCO and FAS and rather than sell all the assets for huge discounts actually manage the properties and make money from renting commercial property and using the residential ones for social housing. Using FAS and the live register to get young people and unemployed builders back to work helping with the maintenance and in the case of some areas the completion of estates

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:30 AM

    Joined up thinking from a government. You’re crazy.

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    Mute Emily Elephant
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:43 AM

    Because government bodies have such a great record at efficient property management and delivery of high quality accommodation?

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:41 AM

    If it all goes to plan IW will be no more in 4 days

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:25 AM

    Were we not told that all going well USC was a temporary measure? So guess Nama will be around for another bit

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    Mute PicassoRepublic
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:35 AM

    Ahhh – that’s the rub. NAMA will be wound up quickly otherwise they might have to charge their pals market rates – they know they cant sell the idea of a ‘fire sale’ when the market recovers.

    Therefore NAMA will be wound up, we’ll never know the cost to the taxpayer – yes NAMA may have purchased a debt/asset for say €10M and sold it for €11M, but the original cost to the taxpayer may have been €50M when we funded NAMAs discounted purchase (we took over the banks debt).

    The USC will remain indefinitely as Joe Public must still pay business debts run up in Ireland.

    This is the ultimate achievement in the concept of money moving to the very small group at the top – not only do they not lose, but they get another bight at the cherry at a discount.

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    Mute Evan Healy
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:09 AM

    Then in another 4 years after NAMA is no more we will have NAMA 2: revenge of the bubble.

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    Mute Ronan Mc Namara
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:31 AM

    How can it be a property bubble if people are still in negative equity?

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    Mute Inntalitarian
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:25 AM

    Well if they keep selling property to the likes of U2 at knockdown prices it’s no surprise they’re gonna wind up early.

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    Mute tax slave
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:14 AM

    It will be with us for a lot longer than that to many people at the top making money

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    Mute Declan Gartlan
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:24 AM

    Same people that said Nama would never work now moaning it’s working to well also said Nama paid to much to the banks for assets shot memories

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    Mute Marko Burns
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:55 AM

    NAMA could have wiped out homelessness, instead it just sold off half the capital to foreigners on the cheap and assets back to dodgy developers who already owe it money. Longest game of Monopoly in history…

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:29 AM

    And then we can have the scandal.

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:25 AM

    Indeed. The inevitability of it all is so depressing.

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:01 AM

    Why is this being allowed to happen with these National assets.
    Green REIT came into existence 15 months ago. Hovered up €758 million of them and just announced €53 million first year rental income. That is a 7% return and with upward only rents can only get better.
    These assets should be managed and kept to add to the country’s balance sheet.
    Our own pension reserve could do with an annual 7% return very nicely.

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:50 AM

    NAMA did a good job given the prevailing environment of madness

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    Mute Mark Kirwan
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:24 AM

    They are so untranparent in their dealings that there is no way we can possibly know that yet.

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    Mute Frances King
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 8:49 PM

    That’s because they own loans, not properties.

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 1:32 PM

    Do they still own loads of property a road such as london etc as well as holiday homes in Southern Europe etc. never mentioned in any of their reports that are public.

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    Mute james r
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    Oct 23rd 2014, 3:01 PM

    Because there’ll be nothing more to sell off at rock bottom prices

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