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Swedish Prime Minister Stefan Lofven Anders Wiklund/TT via PA Images

Sweden faces political deadlock after far-right make election gains

Noting the parliamentary deadlock, Prime Minister Stefan Lofven extended an invitation to the opposition.

SWEDEN IS HEADED for a period of uncertainty after legislative elections saw the far-right make gains, raising three question – who won, who will govern, and with whom?

The prime minister is usually the leader of the party with the most votes, but Sweden’s fragmented political landscape after yesterday’s election makes it impossible to guess who will form the next government.

As expected, neither the centre-left nor the centre-right bloc obtained a majority, and the far-right Sweden Democrats solidified their position as the country’s third-biggest party, albeit with a lower score than they had expected.

There are few other alternatives to form a government. “They’ll need a lot of imagination,” daily Svenska Dagbladet wrote.

“However the dramatic bloc battle plays out, it looks like it will be difficult for Sweden to have a functioning government,” daily paper of reference Dagens Nyheter wrote in an editorial.

Social Democratic Prime Minister Stefan Lofven’s “red-green” left bloc enjoys a razor-thin one-seat lead over the centre-right opposition Alliance, with nearly 200,000 ballots from Swedes who voted abroad to be counted on Wednesday.

But the Social Democrats won 28.4% of votes, down 2.8 points from the 2014 elections, their worst score in a century.

“We are Sweden’s biggest party,” Lofven said last night.

Acknowledging the parliamentary deadlock, he extended an invitation to the opposition.

“This election marks the death of bloc politics. We need a cross-bloc cooperation,” he told his party supporters.

But the four-party Alliance rejected his invite, calling on Lofven to step down and make way for them to build a government.

“This government has had its chance. It has to resign,” Alliance opposition leader Ulf Kristersson told his conservative Moderate party supporters.

‘Very uncertain situation’

Lofven is seeking a new four-year mandate but he has categorically ruled out any cooperation with the far-right.

He could try to build the same government he formed in 2014 – a minority coalition with the Greens, that relies on the informal support in parliament of the ex-communist Left Party.

But it would then be under constant threat from the Sweden Democrats, ready to block any attempt to pass legislation and topple it at the first opportunity, such as the autumn budget bill.

Lofven could also extend an invitation to the Centre and Liberal parties to join the negotiating table.

“If the red-green bloc is bigger, the Centre and the Liberals hold the key and not Jimmie Akesson,” Mikael Gilliam, political science professor at the University of Gothenburg, told Swedish public radio. 

With one major caveat, the Centre and Liberals are members of the Alliance, together with the Moderates and Christian Democrats.

Government formation

Despite their differences, notably on immigration policy, the Alliance parties that ruled Sweden from 2006 to 2014 have agreed to form a government together.

But that is no easy task.

The Alliance would need the far-right’s support to obtain a majority in parliament, and would have to either make policy concessions in exchange for the Sweden Democrats’ support or offer key positions on parliamentary committees that draft legislation.

“Such a government would be dependent on the Sweden Democrats’ support and it wouldn’t come without a cost,” Lisa Pelling, chief analyst at progressive think-tank Arena Ide, told AFP. 

To avoid that situation, Kristersson appears to favour some form of broad cross-bloc cooperation with the Social Democrats.

In the past four-year mandate, the two have signed 26 deals to pass legislation, notably on immigration, energy and the climate.

“This is a very uncertain situation. Only 30,000 votes separate the two blocs and 200,000 more votes from abroad are to be counted on Wednesday,” said David Ahlin, opinions chief at the market research company Ipsos.

“The most likely situation will be that the Alliance will form a coalition together and try to seek cross-bloc support,” Ahlin added. 

After winning 17.6% of votes – up by nearly 5% since the previous election – Sweden Democrats leader Jimmie Akesson gave Kristersson an ultimatum.

“Who do you want to negotiate with, Stefan Lofven or Jimmie Akesson?” he asked at an election night party yesterday. 

“We are ready to take our responsibilities,” he insisted.

© – AFP, 2018

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:24 AM

    They are Fake News and Biased News, though…And the issue of lack of trust was there long before Trump came to office. Trump is merely calling them out for what they are…

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    @Gov. Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown: trump lies all the time… Are you sure it’s the truth you’re concerned with?

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:34 AM

    @Gov. Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown: honest question? Are you a troll, or are you a Macedonian based bot who’s just bad at hiding it? Because you’re comments are so bad they’re almost funny. But they also get traction among the other trumpettes…

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:37 AM

    @Conor Paddington: Maybe I’m just someone with a different opinion, Conor..

    By the way, you don’t have to be a Trump supporter to think the MSM drive fake and biased narratives…

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:38 AM

    @Conor Paddington: he’s so far up Trumps (_!_)

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:40 AM

    @Gov. Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown: maybe you are. Sure. But your language mirrors Trump to closely for me to think you’re being honest about it. You’re taking at least a modicum of the piss?

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:41 AM

    @West Cork Lad: yup. I’d say some of the lads on here are motivated by a deep, concealed, sexual awakening Trump is inspiring in them.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:49 AM

    @Conor Paddington: Not related to the MSM. I think the majority are biased and drive Fake narratives…From Fox right across to CNN and outlets like theJournal here in Ireland.

    On other issues regarding Trump, you do realize it sounds like trolling because it is trolling. That’s a central aspect of his platform. To be provocative and to troll…it controls the media feed, it unbalances his opponents, it’s not politically correct, and it creates hysteria in opponents and bad responses…Have a look at some of his rallies. The audience are usually in bits laughing…

    I can’t see how Democrats and “liberals” have not realized this yet…

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:54 AM

    @Gov. Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown: do you not see the irony of supporting a man who continually calls out stories that don’t fit his agenda as fake news, and is himself a proven liar several times over since he came to office?

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:55 AM

    @Conor Paddington: Just have a look at the issue concerning family separations…the clear objective of Trump was to put immigration back central before the midterms. Now, I’ve no issue with people criticizing the measure.

    But the Democrats descended into hysteria and some of them started calling to abolish ICE…talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory…its mind blowing stuff…

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:55 AM

    @Gov. Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown: yup. He appeals to people’s emotions, particularly the overriding ones like hatred and anger, and the mainstream politicians (as oppised to “liberals and left”, everyone from the left to tbe centre right including mainstream republicans can’t stand him) and the media are still trying to appeal to people’s heads and it’s not working. People have copped on, now. But it’s dangerous, and knowing what he’s doing doesn’t mitigate that.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:56 AM

    @Dermot Lane: I support Trumps policies Dermot…I couldn’t give a toss about lying politicians really…they are a dime a dozen…

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:57 AM

    @Gov. Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown: when you say fake news, do you mean biased, or factually inaccurate?

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:59 AM

    @Gov. Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown: for another take (arguably extreme, but very conceivably not) on the separations, read Fintan O’Toole. It’s a short article https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-trial-runs-for-fascism-are-in-full-flow-1.3543375

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 8:04 AM

    @Conor Paddington: Why are the media trying to appeal to people’s heads? It’s the politicians job to do that.

    The Democrats need to put a coherent policy platform together and start to sell that. It’s that simple. Do that and they will go close to winning both houses in November. And choose the right candidate to challenge Trump in the 2020 elections and they will win that too…So avoid Pocahontas, Low IQ Maxine, and others like that. Funny thing is the Democrats got rid of Al Franken…he would have beaten Trump…

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 8:05 AM

    @James Brady: Both…biased news reporting builds to Fake narratives…

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 8:14 AM

    @Gov. Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown: you support his immigration policies that he will never get through the houses…wonder why that is..

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 8:23 AM

    @Gov. Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown: so, to be clear, it’s biased news and fake “narrative”? You see, the problem with bias is that whilst it undoubtedly exists, it’s all down to opinion.
    Fact checking, on the other hand…

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 9:57 AM

    @James Brady: Is everyone else here bar Jerry in a complete state of hypnosis or simply just ret**ded that you haven’t yet realised that MSM IS FAKE NEWS. Do you not think that the wealthiest interests realised long long ago that by controlling the media you control the narrative and peoples perspective. You all probably believe that Russian did meddle in the US general election. Time to come out of your lifetime hibernation and wake up

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 10:23 AM

    @James Brady:
    ‘Factchecking’
    Another contrived mechanism to discredit anyone who interferes with the liberal press’s business model.
    Obama lied through his teeth for 8 years in the White House yet nobody sought to Factcheck him.
    Why?
    Because advertising revenue was good.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 10:26 AM

    @Conor Paddington:
    Fntan O’Toole?
    Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
    Thanks for the laugh.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 10:27 AM

    @Gov. Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown: “They are Fake News and Biased News”

    Typical Trump fan, you don’t even say which outlets are “fake” or “biased” you just make sweeping statements about all media. You lot are honestly laughable.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 10:35 AM

    @Gov. Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown: ok, let me stop you right there, are people not allowed to be outraged that the government separated families at the border, sent them to different states and kept no paper trail of who was related to who? There are 500 children now that the government is stating aren’t eligible to be reunited with their parents. You know what the dumbest part is? They wanted to decrease immigrants entering the country, they now have 500 children to clothe, feed, and educate and then give citizenship to. ICE and the government have defied two court orders. I think ICE should be abolished and replaced with a fit for purpose agency. ICE have rejected any reform of their practices in their short existence. So if they won’t follow orders get rid of them and replace them.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 10:56 AM

    @Conor Paddington: Please tell me the Macedonian troll comment was a joke. A few weeks, when the Journal posted that story, I posted a comment saying how the sheep will adopt that as part of their thought process and begin to make accusations to people of being Macedonian on here. Please tell me I was wrong. Please tell me that you are not that much of a predictable, narrative sponge. It was a joke right?

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:05 AM

    @West Cork Lad: upside down china man?

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:06 AM

    @Never Forget: did it outrage you you big snowflake? (Sort of a joke, everything is a half joke)

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:13 AM

    @Never Forget: to be fair, some had adopted that tactic before the journal article.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:16 AM

    @Conor Paddington: he appears to be laughing at and mocking you for unquestioningly believing anything you read. There’s not even a hint of outrage in his rather amusing take on your gullibility.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:18 AM

    @Conor Paddington: No, I wasn’t outraged. I think it’s pretty pathetic that you absorb any narrative that you’re given. It’s really sad. I’m not a snowflake either, if I were, I’d be saying stuff like this — “Conor Paddington
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    @Liam Doyle: I am throwing an existential tantrum because I find this narrative so depressingly hopeless. This is not my rational or reasonable self. I am upset by the prevailing view down here and I am lashing out” Y’know, id be whining like a little child about it, probably weeping a little also.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:19 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: “Tactic”. Lol.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:26 AM

    @Never Forget: it is a tactic. Without a doubt. Whether the people using it or not know that is another matter.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:28 AM

    @Liam Doyle: I was joking. I even qualified the comment (read it again) with “everything is sort of a joke”. And honestly this idea that someone you disagree with “believes everything they read” is boring, everyone everywhere making choices to believe some and not believe others of the things that they read snd engaging their critical faculty to some or other degree. I personally read a helluva a lot of contradictory stuff, if I believed everything I read I’d be way more confused than I already am.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:30 AM

    @Never Forget: read my respinse to Liam Dick above. I was taking the proverbial Mick. If I absorbed any narrative I was given I’d believe you and believe Trump. You can’t accuse me of that and account for how I believe some things and not others.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:32 AM

    @Never Forget: I think if you followed it through you’d see that the Moonbeam and I had a reasonable and productive exchange.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:36 AM

    @Conor Paddington: Listen man, I totally get that you are confused. If you ever need to talk, then I’m here for you. I’m not even trolling, I am being 100% genuine. I also meant what I said the other day, that I believe you are in for some rough days ahead, as you slowly get dragged closer and closer to reality. I used to be where you were. I totally bought the progressive narrative, so I know what it’s like. You’re going to be confused for a while and then angry that you’ve been lied to about almost everything, by the press. Anyway, you probably think I’m taking the mick so I won’t bother going on. Just know that I’m here for you brother.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:00 PM

    @Never Forget: are you trying to get me to join a cult? Because I mean… it looks like you’re trying to get me to join a cult… I’m not joining a cult.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:01 PM

    @Clever Jake: I’ve posted this numerous times but I’ll do it once more for your benefit: It is now standard procedure at twitter, to restrict new accounts until you pass a captcha and provide your phone number for verification, regardless of whether you even use twitter (which I don’t). Try it yourself if you dont believe me.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:02 PM

    @Conor Paddington: My friend, I am trying to get you out of a cult.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:21 PM

    @Never Forget: you’ve had your eyes opened by some sinister thread on Reddit and now you believe a new narrative… everyone above is carrying on as though their eyes are opened and everybody else is falling for a story. It’d arch silliness.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:27 PM

    @Conor Paddington: Let me know when you’re ready.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:29 PM

    @Clever Jake: I opened an account just to comment here. Like I said, try it. Open a twitter account, an hour or so later, you’ll see that message appear. Nothing strange about it.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:30 PM

    @Clever Jake: because he has had accounts banned from here many times and I’d imagine the setup gets irritating after so many times and shortcuts are taken. Also he only has an account to comment here which is also fine.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:39 PM

    @Gov. Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown: A restricted Twitter account due to “unusual activity” . You’re a paid Trump shill.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:46 PM

    @Clever Jake: Hi Jake! Quick click on my account before they restrict it and ask me for verification!

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:58 PM

    @Clever Jake: Oh they got that one in ten minutes. Do you really think I got blocked on twitter in 10 minutes with a brand new account that I didn’t tweet from, even once? Derp.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 1:13 PM

    @Clever Jake: How about tweeting, its quite simple, if you want to avoid your derping. A by the by, how did you get my photo :)

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 1:27 PM

    @Never Forget: great response to poor Conor there

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 1:31 PM

    @KingCrisp: Nice new account Jake

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 1:40 PM

    @Clever Jake: it’s restricted silly

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 1:45 PM

    @Clever Jake: ha, you have to stop doing that. I thought you were himself running a test.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 2:42 PM

    @Clever Jake: I keep telling you. AFTER the account is set up, the automatic restrictor bot gets activated. It’s nothing to do with whether you set up with phone or email (Pro tip: You don’t even need to enter a real email address, mine is usually something like ajsoakajajaka@wosjsj.com) Also, your crisp account isn’t new. Try it with a new one. Ps I got your pic by cropping a screenshot, don’t you know how to computers?

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 2:46 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Yes it is now, it wasn’t for about 10 minutes. As I keep saying, it’s an automatic feature that seems to affect brand new accounts, though maybe it’s just me and they can see my ip or something :-) Either way, you can see this brand new account, with zero tweets or ANY use of Twitter after registration, has been restricted. So please stop trying to use this as proof of anything (not directing that last bit necessarily at you Dave)

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 2:52 PM

    @Clever Jake: couldn’t be the fake email address?

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 3:31 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Yeah maybe but they don’t send you an email link which you must click to verify. Facebook does this which is why I don’t use it for the Journal, as id also have to set up an email address, time is rubles you know! It’s entirely possible that my ip is logged and that’s why I get that message. If you think about it, it’s the Journal’s fault for banning me so much, forcing me to open loads of stupid bloody accounts. Lost count at this point.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 3:34 PM

    @Clever Jake: As I just said to Dave, it’s possible that my ip is logged and they automatically restrict me. I don’t have all the answers I’m afraid ¯\_(ツ)_/ ¯ Anyway, you can see for yourself that my new acc was restricted automatically, it’s not cos I harass loads of people on twitter, I can’t even use twitter cos my acc is always restricted, I’m not giving them my number and virtual sms numbers don’t seem to work as verification on twitter like they do on the Journal ;-)

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 3:53 PM

    @Clever Jake: You can have your name back anyway, I’m sound like that xoxo

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 4:52 PM

    @Jake O Keefe: aww, you should have gone with James again

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 5:03 PM

    @Clever Jake:
    ‘Unusual activity’
    If you block Facebook advertising they regard it as unusual activity.
    Anyway, your own account registers as ‘Dodgy’ so your own account is not even genuine.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 6:06 PM

    @Jimmy Coltrane: welcome. Read the thread properly. The 5yr old Jake is the real one, the restricted one is the article formerly know as the artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as Putinbot. He’s been conducting an experiment, he has so far proven that Twitter restricts accounts that have had no activity for suspicious activity

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:53 AM

    A recent poll of 2000 people in England showed that only one person in 6 trusted the BBC i.e. they felt the BBC lied to them and was biased.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5240863/Just-one-six-Britons-say-trust-BBC.html

    Why dont the Journal do a similar poll here to see how many people trust them to be unbiased and trustworthy>??

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:58 AM

    @raymond grehan: poll on the journal ? T’would be as crooked as Trump…Hahahhaha..you’re killing me..

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:58 AM

    @raymond grehan: As reported by….The Daily Mail. See the irony?

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 8:07 AM

    @Philip Kavanagh: No Not really. Here is an earlier poll from 2007 from ‘the Guardian’ which states something similar ?
    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2007/jul/28/broadcasting.bbc

    We know you love Guardian.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 8:19 AM

    @raymond grehan: The poll The Daily Mail refers to was about trust in public people and companies. Both it and you picked the BBC out specifically because it fits your narrative. The 2007 poll noted that people believed much of what they see portrayed on TV in general as fact was not true. Again you hone in the BBC. Biased yourself much?

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 10:23 AM

    @raymond grehan: The difference is The Journal is a business not a public service broadcaster. The former don’t own you anything, you get to read their stories for free.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:37 PM

    @Clever Jake: If you had ever worked for the BBC you might have a different insight onto what is fact and what is the approved and enforced narrative of the day.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:26 AM

    The fake news journalists are hand picked by their billionaire bosses. well that’s the way it works here anyway.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:30 AM

    @Sean Conway: time and time again trump has labelled news as fake news even though its been verified and fact checked as accurate.

    It is evident he is trying to undermine journalism, anyone trying to excuse this prefers a world of cover ups and under the table deals rather then openness

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:36 AM

    @Barry Somers: Trump, in a tweet, defined fake news as news which is unfavourable about him. That’s his literal definition. In his head he is the best president ever, everything he bas done is perfect, ans if anyone dares to criticise him it’s fake news.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:39 AM

    @Barry Somers: Or maybe journalism is trying to undermine him.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:43 AM

    @Joseph Caulfield: by saying that he has lied over 4,000 times since becoming president….them pesky fact checkers…

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:45 AM

    @Joseph Caulfield: journalism is the fourth estate. Its job is to challenge the politicians and political system. It doesn’t always get it right, but neither do the politicians, not all of then are as good as others, but neither are the politicians. It serves a very real and very important role in society, and trying to shut it down as “fake news” is way more dangerous than people seem to realise.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:53 AM

    @Barry Somers: ‘Manufacturing consent’. would be a more appropriate wording.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 10:00 AM

    @Barry Somers: Verified by who Barry??? An “independent” fact checking organisation owned by George Soros or some other globalist entity? Wake up dude

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 10:21 AM

    @Joseph Caulfield: No, there’s certainly some bias but he lies so consistently you couldn’t cover the majority of Trump stories positively. He’s a horror show and we’re only seeing a small fraction of it.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 1:04 PM

    @Lisa Saputo: No Lisa , there is total bias. The media is no longer on the sidelines observing. The media is on the field playing.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 1:33 PM

    @Barry Somers: verified and fact checked by fake news platforms you mean. I don’t support Trump and I know he lies a huge amount of the time but you have to open your eyes and see that his rivals are lying just as often if not more. Remember, it’s silly to pick either black or white for fear of being labeled “sitting on the fence” because the grey area covers the biggest area.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 8:19 AM

    A recent poll in my office said that 0% believe what they read or saw on Irish media.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 9:40 AM

    @Toby Thedogk: Big money sets the agenda in the media.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 2:14 PM

    @Toby Thedogk: thanks for the update Moscow

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 10:11 AM

    The liberal press spent tens of millions campaigning on Hilary Clinton’s behalf.
    It backfired spectacularly.
    They’re not happy.
    They want their pound of flesh.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:28 AM

    @Jimmy Coltrane: did they? Wasnt Trump given far more air time?

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:42 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Now that, Dave, was a tactic. Trump absolutely dominated the press during the campaign. He beat more people in the primaries than anyone ever previously had, they didn’t get a look in and most of us remember their nicknames, lyin Ted, little Marco, JEB! etc… Trump uses controversy as a weapon, very successfully. The media got played, bigly.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:48 AM

    @Never Forget: I 100% agree. I’m just curious as to how they spent millions campaigning for Hillary is any kind of a point when they spent millions campaigning for Trump too.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:57 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: They weren’t campaigning for Trump, at least that wasn’t their intention. They wanted to destroy him and any chance he had of winning. It just so happens that it backfired in the worst way possible. More to the point, Trump KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN. He’s been ensconced in the media since the 80′s, he knows how they operate, he knows how ruthless they can be and he used that to his advantage. He played their own game against them. And he’s still doing it. And it’s all highly amusing.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:01 PM

    @Never Forget: just because they didn’t intend to do it doesn’t mean they didn’t do it.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:04 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: I have to say man, nit picking to save face is one of your worst qualities. Luckily you have an alright sense of humour, so that helps redeem you somewhat.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:16 PM

    @Never Forget: “Trump knew this would happen” – sweet jebus.Ye guys really do believe that Trump is some sort of genius…

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:18 PM

    @Never Forget: not picking? The original poster claimed that the media spent millions campaigning for Clinton all I did was point out that they did even more for Trump, a point you agree with. Personal comments like that are why I don’t take you seriously.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:30 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: I’m gutted bro

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:31 PM

    @West Cork Lad: You must think he’s just incredibly lucky.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:59 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Hi again. Just checking in with the new ID xx

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 1:34 PM

    @Never Forget: He knows that he has got a following that will believe/defend anything that he says or does,which in turn protects him from a lot of the damage that he does to those very people..Answer me this question,what policies of his has he got passed through the Republican controlled houses ?

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:49 AM

    Brought to you by the Presidency that pioneered ‘alternative facts’.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:56 PM

    @Philip Kavanagh: trump is a bare faced liar as opposed to many media sources that lie behind their fingers.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 7:49 AM

    Trump does not exist in a vacuum . The polarizing media and activist journalists made his presidency possible. Trump and the response to Trump are equally disturbing.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 9:53 AM

    The mainstream media’s increasingly unhinged obsession with Trump and their willingness to brand anyone to right of Bernie Sanders a ‘far right fascist’ has already increased the risk of violence against the basket of deplorables.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 2:50 PM

    @David Maxwell Armstrong: so the media thinks democrats are far right fascists?

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 8:14 AM

    The Alt Right is up early this morning

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 9:01 AM

    @Barry Zuckerkorn: Very early considering most of them are at least 5 hours behind us.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 9:17 AM

    @Rob Cahill: 2 hours ahead in St Petersburg

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 10:15 AM

    From the godfather of PR (propaganda) Edward Bernays:
    ‘We are dominated by the relatively small number of persons who understand the mental processess and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind’.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 8:13 AM
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    Aug 3rd 2018, 8:20 AM

    @Robert Burke: what a load of nonsense…by the way,isn’t it nice to see NBC correcting themselves when they got something wrong.Which in fairness is something that the other reputable newspapers do too…does Trump ever admit when he’s wrong \O/ ?

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:17 AM

    @Robert Burke: brought to you by Sinclair media

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 10:19 AM

    to all you MSM lovers

    ‘Propaganda works best when those who are being manipulated are confident that they are acting on their own free will’

    Joseph Goebbels

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 10:36 AM

    @Cian Byrne: Go away spam bot, 4 posts in a row. These bots are getting annoying.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 10:43 AM

    @Cian Byrne: so Trump supporters yeah? Voted against their own interests, still supporting the guy that is trying to take away their healthcare

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:41 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: I wouldn’t bother responding. “Cian Byrne” doesn’t exist.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 2:58 PM

    @An bhearna: does “an bhearna”?

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 10:09 AM

    A quote by ex-CIA director William Casey in 1981:

    “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false”

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 9:47 AM

    The “free press” is owned by people on the right or left in America…they are bias.But freedom is an intellectual choice,believe in ignorance,or educate yourself on the truth….

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:10 PM

    President Trump is right. Fair play to him for standing up against the media. They demand accountability & truth from all except themselves. If many in the media were honest, they wouldn’t be called fake news.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 10:06 AM

    ‘Trump’s comments may increase risk of violence against journalists’……..please god lets hope they’re right:)..haha

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 8:07 AM

    Can someone compile a list of the Fake News Trump talks about and who made up the story?
    This is a simple thing to do but nobody wants to do it.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 9:52 AM

    @alphanautica: How about 1, the Mexicans will pay for the wall, 2, Obama was not born in the USA, 3, The Trump inauguration crowd was the biggest in history. Trump the talker and Trump the source.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 10:07 AM

    It’s hard to say what exactly a free press is, specially here in Ireland, as we have State sponsored RTE with their laughable crowd estimations during the water protests. We have the ironically named Independent owned by a billionaire and whose reporting is so biased it makes one wonder do journalists have a conscience. But even with their bias, the press as an entity is never the enemy of the people. They can colour facts all they like, but we must be able to see through that to the truth as best we can. I watch Fox news sometimes, just to get that perspective. They present what they call facts and I check them out. They will usually have a small grain of truth covered in massive doses of opinion, and distorted to a degree that would be funny if they weren’t being taken as gospel by the so called leader of the free world. Then I use my own judgement to work out a truth I can believe in. So when Trump attacks the media, it’s scary because he is of course excluding Fox news and Breitbart. He is basically saying that anyone who doesn’t support him is fake news. When even the obvious and verifiable truth comes out, it is automatically challenged as fake news. When you have a large minority of people who don’t trust the media, that is dangerous because when they have evidence that should persuade them to turn away from the likes of Trump, they will simply ignore it. And that is one of the stepping stones to a total dictatorship.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 10:15 AM

    @David Knight:
    Occasionally I tune in to CNN or read the Washington Post, The Huff and Puff Post or the Guardian in England.
    Honestly, it’s surreal how much mistruth and ideological bias masquerading as ‘News’ they churn out.
    One must always remain objective when reading the liberal press.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 10:21 AM

    @Jimmy Coltrane: when reading all press but yes in particular the “liberal” globalist press as they are the weapon of the most sadistic, paedophilic child killer elites

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 10:23 AM

    @Jimmy Coltrane:

    One must always remain objective when reading the liberal press

    Yea like maybe ..Fox News

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:05 AM

    Jimmy Coltrane is the biggest spoofer that we get on here…

    Spoof 1) Says that he slept with a glock under his pillow when he “lived” in the Bronx ;-)
    Spoof 2) Says that he brought a Brazilian homeless guy in from off the street,fed him and gave him a bed for the night ;-)

    hahaha

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:49 AM

    @Jimmy Coltrane: Why should one always remain objective when reading the liberal press?? Does the Alt-Right press have a free pass?? Your point shows a complete disregard for the fact that all arguments have at least two sides, and you need to work your way through both until you get at the truth. If that truth is inconvenient to your ideological bias, than you have to accept it regardless. Refusing to accept a truth because of any bias makes you stupid.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 5:00 PM

    @West Cork Lad:
    LOL!
    And you said you had an affair with Hilary Clinton when she was in Ireland.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 10:36 AM

    He’s right about the press. They are a disgrace.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:43 AM

    @Never Forget: yet you read and comment on a news paper

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:10 PM

    @Punker: Not an argument or even close to one

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:42 PM

    @Never Forget: Yet another restricted Twitter account due to unusual activity. You’re another paid shill.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 1:48 PM

    @An bhearna: all accounts are restricted if they aren’t verified.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 10:24 AM

    Trump rubs people up the wrong way but the way the media have fed this beast, every word reported, every story reported whether it be false or factual is feeding his ego, absolutely sick of seeing articles of this gobsh!te day in day out. Trump tweets this trump tweets that! I’d ask who cares but there’s way too many on either side of the spectrum that lap up everything thing he does and say!

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:13 PM

    Trump only wants a media that supports everything he does – such as saying that climate change is a hoax – even as the planet burns and Trump dumps regulations on fuel emissions for cars – opens up the Arctic to drilling and huge tracts of the Gulf waters to drilling.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 5:31 PM

    @GO GREEN: Climate change is not a hoax. Even Trump knows that climate change was always here and is not going away. And there is pretty much nothing we can do about it.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 6:08 PM

    @Pat Patovic: he should probably stop saying it’s a hoax then

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 9:58 AM

    fake news…where have I heard that before…ah yes Lügenpresse.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:12 AM

    Explain Fox News to me then

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:21 AM

    @Ciaran O’Cathasaigh: It’s propaganda, bias and spin from the other side. It’s not complicated mate. Mass media cannot be trusted. At all. On either side.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:23 AM

    @Ciaran O’Cathasaigh: It just so happens that their version of reality is closer to the version of reality put forth by media outlets on the left i.e the majority of the press, which is overwhelming progressive. That’s why their ratings are good.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:36 AM

    @Never Forget: their ratings are good because their version of reality is close to that of those on the left? I don’t think you said what you meant to say.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:10 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: You’re right. I think you know what I meant though.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:27 PM

    @Never Forget: you couldn’t even bring yourself to write it. If you really believe the Nixon press core are close to reality. “With television you just sit- watch- listen. The thinking is done for you.” – anonymous note in the Nixon library that suggests creating a pro-GOP news channel.

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:21 AM

    Yawn zzzzzzz — heaven forbid , pass the bucket someone please

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 5:58 PM

    Hi Gráinne, can you honestly say that The Journal is not a biased left leaning news piece?

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:11 PM

    @Shawn O’Ceallaghan: Everyone is bias to a certain degree?

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 1:09 PM
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    Aug 3rd 2018, 1:51 PM

    @Joseph Caulfield: and the article argues against “taking him out”

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:10 PM

    Trump is a mouth and in my view unfit to be POTUS but the media in the US reports stuff they seem to make up, all this Russia bull is unbelievable and only started with Hillary. It makes you believe in Operation Mockingbird being alive and well. Too many will want to believe anything once it gets rid of Trump, the desire to demonise Trump with anything just covers up the facts of what he did, as in Gerrymandering by his party and removing Spanish sounding names from the voting register.
    Also have people not realised that if they got rid of Trump then Pence will be the POTUS and he will do things that would shock any liberal person in the US…
    There is no journalism or news in the US, there are just stations who broadcast what people want to hear in order to watch them because the stations are out to make money from advertising space. These stations will end up causing an US civil war soon enough I bet…
    Trump is enjoying himself saying these things as all publicity in his view is good even the bad to rotten? The real answer to Trump is stop listening to him?

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 11:27 PM

    @TamuMassif2019: 26 Russian state actors indicted by a grand jury. Could have absolutely nothing to do with Trump but Russia is definitely involved

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    Aug 3rd 2018, 12:39 PM

    Hurrrrr

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