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Government wants to avoid scenario where there would be two time zones on the island of Ireland

The changing of the clocks for winter and summer has been a ritual in Europe since 1916.

IT’S THE GOVERNMENT’s objective to avoid there being two time zones on the island of Ireland.

Yesterday, TheJournal.ie reported that the government planned to roll a national consultation on whether or not Ireland should scrap daylight savings time.

A steering group is to be established that will report back to Cabinet on the issue. 

The European Commission has recommended the abolition of daylight savings, advising that seasonal time changes will come into force as soon as 2021.

Minister Charlie Flanagan has previously said he has “an open mind” on the proposals.

The President of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker proposed to end the changes in Europe next year.

The changing of the clocks for winter and summer has been a ritual in Europe since 1916, originally conceived as an energy-saving measure. 

Summertime arrangements in the EU require that the clocks are changed twice per year in order to cater for the changing patterns of daylight and to take advantage of the available daylight in a given period.

Brexit 

In light of the current context arising from the UK’s decision to exit the European Union, plans for any such time change trial being a joint venture with the United Kingdom is now in doubt. 

A spokesperson for the government said the Commission’s timeframe for such timezone changes is “very ambitious”, adding that it is a “complex issue” particularly for Ireland in light of Brexit. 

If the UK and Northern Ireland were not to avail of getting rid of daylight savings time, it would result in there being two time zones on the island.

Certainly Britain’s actions on the issue would need to be considered, said the spokesperson, adding that it is the government’s objective to avoid two time zones on the island of Ireland. 

At Cabinet today during discussions on daylight savings time Minister Denis Naughten emphasised the need for research from comparable countries on how geography can affect energy savings and electricity consumption before any decision is taken on ending the biannual clock changes.

Giving an example, Ireland is at 53 degrees north. Ontario is at 51 degrees north and savings on energy there have been in the region of 1.5%. He said it is worth using research from comparable countries to ascertain how energy savings and electricity consumption will be affected.

As of the year 2017, daylight saving time is used by 77 countries and regions with a combined population in excess of 1.5 billion, making daylight savings time one of the most widespread policies in the world.

Naughten added that it is also one of the most controversial policies, with dozens of countries and regions having abandoned it in recent decades. 

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    Mute Shelly Levine
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    Oct 2nd 2018, 9:04 PM

    Yes 2021 here and 1690 for some up north.

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    Mute Ian McNally
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    Oct 2nd 2018, 9:32 PM

    No screw the UK we need to stop letting them dictate how we run things, they will be the ones who look ridiculous enforcing a different timezone for the smaller region on the island.
    Endless summer time sounds fantastic!

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    Mute Emachine
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    Oct 3rd 2018, 1:34 PM

    @Ian McNally: knowing them they’ll choose endless winter.

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    Mute Gus Sheridan
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    Jul 17th 2019, 7:10 AM

    @Ian McNally: Portugal and Spain gave 2 different time zones, so what? no big deal.

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    Jul 17th 2019, 7:10 AM

    @Ian McNally: Portugal and Spain gave 2 different time zones, so what? no big deal.

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    Mute Gus Sheridan
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    Jul 17th 2019, 7:10 AM

    @Gus Sheridan: have 2 ……..

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    Mute DartMcCart
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    Oct 2nd 2018, 9:05 PM

    Time to get rid of it

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    Oct 2nd 2018, 9:34 PM

    @Dick Face: only the planters and the nuts.

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    Mute Tommy Roche
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    Oct 2nd 2018, 9:55 PM

    @DartMcCart: And what about the other 78 people ?

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    Mute sean o'dhubhghaill
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    Oct 2nd 2018, 9:04 PM

    If EU changes, UK will change too. 80%+ of UK citizens are in favour of getting rid of the biannual time change.

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    Mute Sarah Clifford
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    Oct 3rd 2018, 9:38 AM

    @sean o’dhubhghaill: I’m in favour of the biannual time change

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    Oct 2nd 2018, 9:17 PM

    The energy savings argument was always been rather tenuous. Germany introduced the change in 1916 in the probably mistaken belief that it would help reduce energy use, the U.K. followed suit not wanting to let Germany get the upper hand in war preparations and Ireland was instructed to follow suit. We didn’t even get to have an opinion. Farmers were bitterly opposed which is interesting because you often hear that they are the reason the clock changing tradition must be kept.

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    Mute Garreth Byrne
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    Oct 2nd 2018, 9:13 PM

    1916 in Dublin would be 1690 in Belfast and 1776 in Washington DC.

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    Mute Dizzy
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    Oct 2nd 2018, 9:17 PM

    We are part of Europe or not simply!!

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    Mute Hellenize Dublin
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    Oct 2nd 2018, 10:06 PM

    @Dizzy: not please

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    Oct 2nd 2018, 9:24 PM

    No one cares about Norn Iron leave them to it

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    Mute Leadóg
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    Oct 2nd 2018, 9:36 PM

    @Stevie Doran: Really?! No one at all. Are you certain of that?

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    Mute Barry C Mc Govern
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    Oct 2nd 2018, 9:16 PM

    We’ll be the same as Belfast for half the year

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    Oct 2nd 2018, 11:37 PM

    There is already two time zones in Ireland.
    CET and Healy Ray’s Dark ages.

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    Mute Adrian
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    Oct 2nd 2018, 9:56 PM

    Our politicians are good at manipulating figures, I’m sure they’ll figure something out.

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    Oct 2nd 2018, 9:31 PM

    We should change the two economic zones as well

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    Mute Austin Rock
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    Oct 2nd 2018, 10:29 PM

    Another chance for those living in Ulcer land a chance to say No.

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    Mute et
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    Oct 2nd 2018, 10:32 PM

    I’m definitely leaving Ireland if we won’t change with the rest of Europe. The U.K. Will make up their own minds anyway!!!!

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    Mute Kerry Cavanagh
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    Oct 2nd 2018, 10:35 PM

    Ah the poor government! Won’t bother them too much! It’s the workforce that pays their alarm calls who are going to feel it!

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    Oct 3rd 2018, 1:33 PM

    How can these cowards not even make the simplest decisions without someone holding their hand. Daylight savings time is an archaic ritual, the reasons for which have long since stopped being relevant. Who cares if NI keep it, it’s not as if we won’t be able to function. Not only do they want a team of consultants holding one hand but they want the brits holding the other. We’re doomed if this lot ever have to deal with a crisis situation, the country will fall apart around them while they ask consultants and focus groups what would be a popular course of action.

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    Oct 3rd 2018, 2:38 PM

    I’ve living in places where this is normal, like Australia and parts of the US. Everyone seems to be missing the bonus here – you can drink until last orders and then hop a taxi and five minutes later drink for another hour until last orders again.

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