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Calls to remove all maternity costs for women as abortion legislation introduced in Dáil

Simon Harris told the Dáil that in legislating for abortion services in Ireland, they are ‘making history’.

THERE WERE CALLS for all costs associated with maternity care to be scrapped due to the government’s intention to provide universal access to abortion services in Ireland. 

The Minister for Health Simon Harris introduced the Regulation of the Termination of Pregnancy Bill in the Dáil this afternoon.

It seeks to legalise abortion services in Ireland following May’s referendum result to appeal the Eighth Amendment from the referendum.

During the course of the debate, Harris said it is extremely important there be no cost barrier to termination services. 

Speaking in the Dáil today, Fianna Fáil’s Stephen Donnelly and Billy Kelleher said they supported today’s legislation. 

Universal access 

Both TDs said if abortion services are to be freely available to women, so should all costs and services associated with maternity. 

Donnelly said all costs including, appointments, specialised care, drug treatment and hospitalisation, which fall within the parameters of maternity care, should also be universally available. 

Highlighting one example, he said women who find they suffer from an extreme cases of vomiting and illness during pregnancy are often prescribed a drug called Cariban.

The drug is available in the Coombe, Rotunda and Holles Street maternity hospitals, but is very expensive and not available for women on the medical card. 

Donnelly told TDs it can cost from €1,500 to €3,000 for the medication. 

“Lets remove the costs in their totality,” he said. Kelleher agreed, stating that the issue of maternity costs has to be addressed “very quickly” if the Bill before the Dáil is legislating for universal access to abortion services. 

He said it makes “obvious sense” there be a move for free maternity services for all.

‘A new chapter on women’s health’

Speaking in the Dáil, Harris said: 

As Minister for Health, after all we heard during the campaign, after all I’ve learnt since I took this role, after everything we know of the dark past, I am determined we can begin a new chapter on women’s health. A chapter in which women are valued, their decisions are respected and they are cared for without judgment. This will be a priority for me in the time ahead.
Today we begin the job they have given us, of making the law that follows the repeal of the Eighth Amendment and after 35 years in our constitution, in doing so, we are also making history.

He went on to outline a number of sections in the legislation, such as how up to nine weeks gestation it is envisaged women will be treated by their doctor, but between nine and 12 weeks of pregnancy, women will be under the care of consultant obstetricians in hospital. 

Donnelly said politicians needed to question whether proposed amendments put to the Bill fall within the particular parameters of the Heads of the Bill.

The Heads of the Bill is what people based their vote on, he stated. 

Waiting period 

While he said there are aspects of the legislation that he did not agree with, including the three-day waiting period, he would be supporting it. 

He added that it is his understanding the inclusion three-day waiting period was political, stating that he understood it was added after a member of Cabinet questioned whether they could support the repeal of the Eighth Amendment. 

A number of TDs voiced their objections to the waiting period. 

Sinn Féin’s Louise O’Reilly said it was a “paternalistic” measure, stating that it assumes women are unsure about the decision they are making. 

Solidarity–People Before Profit’s Ruth Coppinger said the waiting period was not included in the Oireachtas Committee’s report on the issue, stating that such a measure is “unnecessary” and “patriarchal”. 

She said it would create a barrier for vulnerable women, adding that women from smaller towns and villages may have to travel to larger cities to see a doctor and would have to return there three days after the initial visit. 

Coppinger said the reflection period, which the minister said is used in many other jurisdictions, has been dropped in many countries, such as France. 

Solidarity–People Before Profit’s Bríd Smith said today should be celebrated, adding that she believed it was great that she was standing in the Dáil legislating for abortion. 

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    Mute Máirtín O Loinsigh
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    Jan 21st 2013, 4:04 PM

    I wonder would it Pass an NCT

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    Mute pog mo thoine
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    Jan 21st 2013, 4:34 PM

    Why it won’t be comming here….?might as well ask if its taxed

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    Mute tom
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    Jan 21st 2013, 4:53 PM

    Would you really want the guys in NCT test centres putting it up on ramp

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    Mute pog mo thoine
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    Jan 21st 2013, 5:20 PM

    The test does not harm a car.the worst is the engine been reved highly for the emissions apart from that the test is a doddle a bit of a shake while they test the links/joints/bushes/shocks etc.

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    Mute Henry Shields
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    Jan 21st 2013, 5:37 PM

    Doubt it would have to do a NCT it would be a vintage by now.

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    Mute pog mo thoine
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    Jan 21st 2013, 5:46 PM

    @henry,that’s right anything pre 1980 is test exempt and 52e to tax.I bring in the odd classic from the UK.easy to find a decent one and they require all vehicles to have a mot so road worthy and peace of mind its good.its a very very cheap way of having a second vehicle

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    Mute Carcu Sidub
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    Jan 21st 2013, 4:16 PM

    Funny how it looks like the car Homer Simpsons designed.

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    Mute Gis Bayertz
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    Jan 21st 2013, 6:59 PM

    The Homer!

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    Mute Fred O'Connor
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    Jan 21st 2013, 5:54 PM

    It was going for only 2 million til they found a pair of Catwoman’s knickers under the passenger seat.

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    Jan 21st 2013, 4:10 PM

    Holy handbags that’s alot of wonga ..poow dang wallop

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    Mute Liam
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    Jan 21st 2013, 6:19 PM

    I hear some joker bought it

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    Mute Stephen Hughes
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    Jan 21st 2013, 7:27 PM

    Yeah he was two faced though

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    Mute Kevin Doyle
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    Jan 21st 2013, 10:58 PM

    Speed bumps will be the bane of his existence now…

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    Mute Liam
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    Jan 21st 2013, 11:00 PM

    I see what u did there :p

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    Mute Kevin Maughan
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    Jan 21st 2013, 4:53 PM

    Who didn’t love this car as a kid?! In fairness my favourite batmobile was the one Michael Keaton drove.

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    Mute Les Rock
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    Jan 21st 2013, 5:33 PM

    He bought it for a dollar and spent 9k dollars doing it up. Tidy profit.

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    Mute Ciaran O HUrmoltaigh
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    Jan 21st 2013, 8:01 PM

    According to the Independent George Barris had a mere 15 days and $15,000 to transform the vehicle into what it was. Also peculiarly the indpendent originally today said that the buyer was a 56 year old Mr Champagne revealed through Reuters, but later say that the winning bidder had not been disclosed! Odd

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    Mute Nydon
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    Jan 21st 2013, 6:03 PM

    That’s not the original car! The original car was black with a kinda greyish whietish pinstripe. I saw it on tv when I was about 6 or 7.
    That must be the one they used in the movie. That one had the orange stripe ok.

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    Mute Nikolas Koehler
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    Jan 21st 2013, 6:30 PM

    I read up about this a few years ago – apparently it was the same car but the paint job was originally a lot less dramatic, more matt-black, they repainted it the glossy block and red early on so as to look more impressive. Or so I read then…

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    Mute Nydon
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    Jan 21st 2013, 10:08 PM

    Nikolas , I bow to your knowledge but I was really alluding to the fact that we only had monochrome TV when I was seven! But seriously though when I went to see Batman the movie I couldn’t get over the colours of things that I knew so well from the TV series. The orange stripe, the blue tinge to the batcape (which meant that the one my gran made for me wasn’t as authentic as I thought :( )

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    Jan 21st 2013, 6:23 PM

    Well Bruce Wayne was stuck for a few bob seeing as Catwoman got his prints who then gave them to your man who gave them to Bane who made a mess in the stock exchange. I saw it in a movie so it must be true…

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    Jan 21st 2013, 4:34 PM

    Holy nama batman

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    Jan 21st 2013, 4:53 PM

    Holy God Robin!

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    Jan 21st 2013, 8:46 PM

    Hold on one sec,so a car ten years old needs an annual nct but a car 30 years old cause its “vintage” doesnt?have I understood that correctly?

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    Mute Liam
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    Jan 21st 2013, 11:01 PM

    Yes

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    Mute Dr.fury
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    Jan 21st 2013, 11:34 PM

    That can’t be right,so I can buy a banger from 1970 or so that’s falling to bits without an nct but my 99 bora needs an nct to be roadworthy?ah here leaaaavvvee irrrrrr ouhhhhh,that nct is a scam pure and simple

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    Mute Fred O'Connor
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    Jan 22nd 2013, 11:52 AM

    You’ll probably find it’s cheaper to run a 99 car than one from 1970, even with the NCT, when you consider the cost and rarity of replacement parts and how unreliable such an old car would be. But you’d have the satisfaction of laughing at the rest if us who fell for the scam.

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    Mute Nikolas Koehler
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    Jan 21st 2013, 5:58 PM

    There were eight of them I think, and three still survive. This must be one of the three.

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    Mute Les Rock
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    Jan 21st 2013, 6:00 PM

    That the first one nikolas

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    Mute Nikolas Koehler
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    Jan 21st 2013, 6:23 PM

    Is it? They made the body of the car by adapting the Futura, then made a mold of the body and created eight fibre-glass bodies, and then cars. They tended to get wrecked during filming. They all can be justifiably called original. It’s a lovely idea that there was “one” batmobile, but it’d be almost impossible to prove that this is the “original” original, given that all 8 were made from and repaired with stock parts and empty paint cans that were lying around the workshop.

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    Jan 21st 2013, 6:59 PM

    Holy utility belt

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