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The DUP's Arlene Foster and Nigel Dodds. Stefan Rousseau/PA Images

DUP and UUP leaders to meet Michel Barnier in Brussels in effort to prevent Irish Sea border

Technical discussions will resume in Brussels over Brexit this week.

LAST UPDATE | 8 Oct 2018

NORTHERN IRISH UNIONISTS from both the DUP and UUP are set to meet the EU’s Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier in Brussels tomorrow, with both parties pledging to argue against an effective border down the Irish sea.

DUP leader Arlene Foster and UUP leader Robin Swann will both meet with Barnier alongside their parties MEPs. 

Foster’s party is propping up UK Prime Minister Theresa May’s government in the House of Commons and the DUP has refused to rule out voting against any Brexit deal it is not satisfied with.

Technical discussions resume in Brussels this week, with both sides racing to bridge their differences over the toughest issues of the Irish border and future trading ties.

The EU summit on 18 October has been characterised by the bloc as a “moment of truth” in the divorce talks, just months before Britain leaves on 29 March, 2019.

Foster has said her party will reject any Brexit deal that would effectively have Britain leave the EU customs union while Northern Ireland remains in alignment with EU trade rules.

This arrangement is what’s referred to as the ‘Brexit backstop’ and May has said that her priority is to avoid such a situation.

Speaking today ahead of her meeting with Barnier, Foster said that her party’s “only red line” has been “no new borders between Northern Ireland and Great Britain”.

“This red line is recognising that Great Britain is Northern Ireland’s biggest market. Over 70% of all goods leaving Belfast port are destined for Great Britain,” Foster said.

To create a barrier to that trade would be catastrophic. We want to see an exit deal which means Northern Ireland has unfettered access to and from the GB market but also fully beneficiaries of any new trade deals with the United Kingdom after Brexit. Our red line also respects and protects Northern Ireland’s constitutional place in the United Kingdom.

“Many who claim to respect the Belfast Agreement, fail to respect the principle of consent which was part of that Agreement. Indeed, they would happily redraw the border and annex Northern Ireland away from the rest of the UK.”

Last week, Foster suggested that the Belfast Agreement could be changed in the context of the UK’s withdrawal from the EU. 

The DUP said on its website that Foster is to travel to Brussels for “an intensive three-day round of meetings” with Barnier. 

The European Commission’s website lists one meeting between the pair tomorrow, alongside DUP MEP Diane Dodds. 

Barnier’s schedule also lists a meeting tomorrow with UUP MEP Jim Nicholson. The party has said that its leader Robin Swann will also be present.

Speaking ahead of travelling to Brussels, Swann said that there is “a significant cross section of society in Northern Ireland” who are “deeply concerned about the proposed backstop.

“As unionists it is vital to us that the constitutional integrity of the United Kingdom is preserved throughout this process, but it is also clear that in terms of the economic well-being of Northern Ireland any border along the Irish Sea would be as harmful as a no-deal Brexit,” he said. 

Brexit UK Prime Minister Theresa May. Matt Dunham Matt Dunham

Meanwhile, the UK government warned today that there were still “big issues” to resolve in Brexit negotiations with the European Union, even as hopes grow in Brussels of a breakthrough just days before a crucial summit. 

European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker said at the weekend that the chances of a deal are now rising.

British Prime Minister Theresa May’s spokesman said the government was “working hard for a deal this autumn and that continues at pace”.

But he added:

There remain big issues to work through and as the prime minister has said, this will require movement on the EU side.

“There is a difference between people talking optimistically about a deal, and a deal including both the withdrawal agreement and the future framework actually being agreed,” he said.

‘Precise’ trade declaration

As months of negotiations come to a head, tensions erupted last month at a summit in Salzburg where the EU roundly rejected May’s plan for close economic ties after Brexit.

But she is sticking to her proposal, which she argues would protect cross-border trade while also resolving the problem of how to keep open Britain’s land border with Ireland.

The first sign of any common ground will come on Wednesday, when EU negotiator Michel Barnier will present the first draft of his proposed statement on post-Brexit economic and security ties to ambassadors of the EU’s other 27 member states.

A senior EU official involved in the Brexit negotiations told AFP that the document may be intentionally vague, in case Britain wants to change its red lines in the future.

However, May’s spokesman said Britain was seeking a “precise” declaration on the shape of the future relationship.

He noted that MPs in the House of Commons will have to approve the statement alongside the Brexit divorce deal, and would want to do so “on an informed basis”.

The divorce deal covers the issues of Britain’s financial settlement and EU expatriates’ rights, which are largely resolved, as well as the issue of Ireland.

London and Brussels agree they want no return to physical border checks between British Northern Ireland and EU member Ireland, but disagree on how to achieve this.

Britain believes checks can be avoided through a new trade deal, but accepts the need for a fall-back plan — a backstop — to ensure this until that deal can be agreed.

London has rejected the EU’s proposal but has yet to put forward in full an alternative, promising only it will be published “shortly”.

The problem stems from Britain’s desire to leave the EU’s single market and customs union after Brexit, which would inevitably mean the reintroduction of checks in Ireland.

With reporting from - © AFP, 2018

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:34 AM

    I blame chemtrails, the rothchilds’s, fractional reserve banking, George Soros, the EU open border policy, the mainstream media, Denis O’Brien and FFG/Irish Water

    By blaming all of these, I don’t have to prove any allegation I make and can dismiss all who disagree with me by saying ’baaaaaaaaa’

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:10 PM

    @Dara O’Brien: ’baaaaaaaaa’

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:14 PM

    @Dara O’Brien: Wrong on all of the above usual suspects, it was obviously Kim Jong-Un and Cliff Richard in cahoots.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:32 PM

    @Dara O’Brien: Keyser Soze?

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:33 PM

    @Dara O’Brien: some of those things are responsible for bad things happening. Chemtrails are nonsense but Irish Water does exist. It’s a bit disingenuous to mix them all together like they’re all equally ridiculous conspiracy theories.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:38 PM

    @Toomasu Sumitsu: baaaaaaaa

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:49 PM

    @Dara O’Brien: Not true, the no drone story was a miscommunication.

    “The suggestion there may not have been any drones at Gatwick Airport was a “miscommunication by police”, a government source has told the BBC.”

    ” During a conference call between ministers, chaired by Transport Secretary Chris Grayling, it was agreed the 67 drone sightings were legitimate.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46670714

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:36 PM

    @Toomasu Sumitsu: Irish water! Those bstds are out fixing water mains all over Dublin. Do they not care about the cost of all that? Don’t they know that water falls from the sky and is $£€€%÷== free?
    Don’t get me started on Irish water! Bstds!

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    Dec 24th 2018, 3:30 PM

    @Toomasu Sumitsu: rubbish.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:38 AM

    It was a bit odd that no photos emerged!

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:26 PM

    @Maximus Decimus Meridius: no photos is understandable with the speed some drones are capabale of but no videos is a bit suspicious

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:55 PM

    @Maximus Decimus Meridius: No, there is footage of a quad copter drone over the airport…

    https://news.sky.com/video/gatwick-drone-caught-on-camera-in-unverified-footage-11587927

    Also, the no drones story was a miscommunication, a reporter was fishing for a story and pressed a police to say there could have been no drones…

    “The suggestion there may not have been any drones at Gatwick Airport was a “miscommunication by police”, a government source has told the BBC.”

    ” During a conference call between ministers, chaired by Transport Secretary Chris Grayling, it was agreed the 67 drone sightings were legitimate.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46670714

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:36 PM

    @Maximus Decimus Meridius: I’d say there are a few media outlets that wish there were no photos of the couple questioned in relation to the incident!

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:32 AM

    Way to go!! Now they have just announced that the airport was closed down solely relying on “eye witness” calls and accounts, not verifiable confirmation of said drones.
    crackpots have just been told that a few phonecalls is going to cause mayhem.
    As if terrorists hadn`t got enough tools in their arsenal already

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:36 AM

    @Pixie McMullen: If eye-witnesses are not enough what would you require?

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:37 AM

    @Squiddley Diddley: Video evidence of the drone actually over or around the airport would be a good start – anyone can ring up and say they saw one otherwise

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:46 AM

    @Pixie McMullen: Fair point.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:59 AM

    @Pixie McMullen: it’s no different than a bomb threat I suppose. They have to be investigated. Better safe than sorry. But saying that I had assumed the drone was seen and/or was being tracked by airport or the police

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:59 AM

    @Pixie McMullen: I thought there were videos on the news of drones in the air?

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:39 PM

    @Pixie McMullen: they’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t, had they not closed the airport and a plane was damaged or worse downed they would of been crucified, it was a no win situation for the police and the airport.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:40 PM

    @Pixie McMullen: they’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t, had they not closed the airport and a plane was damaged or worse downed they would of been crucified, it was a no win situation for the police and the airport.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:42 PM

    @Jordan Dowd: LOL – 2 accounts……..Busted! :-)

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:47 PM

    @Pixie McMullen: not really I’m on my sons phone as mine has broken, it wouldn’t let me post on my fb account so I thought but it would On his twitter you can follow my fb account and see this is fact, I post in my own name and stand by anything that I post unlike these key board warriors that use fake names pixie

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:48 PM

    @Pixie McMullen: ouch!

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:52 PM

    @Kathy Paul Dowd: ’baaaaaaaaa’

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:00 PM

    @Pixie McMullen: No, there is footage of a quad copter-drone over the airport…

    https://news.sky.com/video/gatwick-drone-caught-on-camera-in-unverified-footage-11587927

    Also, the no drones story was a from a reporter was fishing for a story and pressed a police officer to say there could have been no drones. He the reporter got his sound bit and ran with it…

    They are now saying the police office was wrong…

    “The suggestion there may not have been any drones at Gatwick Airport was a “miscommunication by police”, a government source has told the BBC.”

    ”During a conference call between ministers, chaired by Transport Secretary Chris Grayling, it was agreed the 67 drone sightings were legitimate.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46670714

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:11 PM

    @David Jordan: That makes more sense David, i was only going by what the journal report said.

    Jaysus Kathy, calm down before you have a coronary, i couldn`t care lees if you had 10 accounts, i just thought it was funny

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:20 PM

    @Pixie McMullen: lol I’m always calm you’d know that if you were my friend if you’d like to FB friends request me I’ll even introduce you to my sons wayne and Cameron you’ve already met jordan, have a lovely Christmas, chat soon ;)

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:29 PM

    @Kathy Paul Dowd: Happy Christmas Kathy :-) I hope you have a good one

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    Dec 24th 2018, 3:58 PM

    @Pixie McMullen:
    And what if there was a drone with an explosive charge waiting near the runway to attack a plane on take off or landing when they are especially vulnerable?

    Not something you’d want to take a chance on .

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:28 AM

    Dear God no! The conspiracy theorists will be in overdrive.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:51 AM

    @Paraic: its ok they can use the left over tin foil from the turkey to make some nice new hats.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:52 AM

    @Paraic: they were the ones calling it in

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:42 AM

    OOoop! Imagine the Garda being that honest.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:56 AM

    The culprit is the person that broke into the Irish presidents house,evading all security personnel and found in the president’s office and escaped as no name was ever given or charges brought. Strange times.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:31 AM

    I smell compo!!

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:41 AM

    And these guys voted for and are organising Brexit…

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:41 AM

    I blame, I blame…..someone!

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:05 PM

    @Malcolm Smith: it wasn’t .meal olm. Honest

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:07 PM

    @Patricia Mcnamara: should read. It wasn’t me, Mal colm. Honest. Damed.predictive text and my old fingers

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:34 PM

    @Patricia Mcnamara: ah duck it, it’ll be alright!

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:34 PM

    @Patricia Mcnamara: yea right, we believe you!

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:13 PM

    Surely they have cameras that they can look at and them confirm if there were drones?

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:13 PM

    @Emer Daly: There is footage of a possible quad copter drone over the airport…

    https://news.sky.com/video/gatwick-drone-caught-on-camera-in-unverified-footage-11587927

    Notice the square outline.

    The police just clarified that there was a miscommunication, there were in fact 67 verified sightings of one or more drones over the airport. Seems a reporter was fishing for a story and pressed a police officer to say there might have been no drones. He got his little sound bite and that sells papers.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:42 AM

    Rudolph & Santa?

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:08 PM

    @DeFonz: nope. Rudis red nose would have been a giveaway.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:15 PM

    @Patricia Mcnamara: Christmas cheer starting a bit early there Patricia ?

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:39 PM

    @Pounamustone: to my horror I have become a Sherry swigger in old age. I sigh for my whisky drinking youthful days. But my hips forbid me to be tipsy. Happy Winter fest.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:04 PM

    Why didn’t they ask for advice from Shane Ross?

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:40 AM

    Omg UFOS over gatwick airport

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:05 PM

    Why, because they were unable to deal with the situation let’s pretend it never happened.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:58 PM

    Can’t believe everyone is still droning on about this story………

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:55 PM

    Misleading headline is misleading.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:04 PM

    The no drones story was a miscommunication, a reporter was fishing for a story and pressed a police officer to say there could have been no drones, he got his sound bite and ran with the story.

    The are now saying there was a drone(s) over the airport…

    “The suggestion there may not have been any drones at Gatwick Airport was a “miscommunication by police”, a government source has told the BBC.”

    ”During a conference call between ministers, chaired by Transport Secretary Chris Grayling, it was agreed the 67 drone sightings were legitimate.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46670714

    Also, there is footage of a possible quad copter drone over the airport…

    https://news.sky.com/video/gatwick-drone-caught-on-camera-in-unverified-footage-11587927

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:25 PM

    Stupid media and especially Piers Morgan publishing and promoting images of the couple brought in for questioning should be sued out of existence.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 2:33 PM

    @Dave O’Keeffe:
    He is apologizing like

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    Dec 24th 2018, 2:33 PM

    @Aine O Connor:
    Already

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    Dec 24th 2018, 7:00 PM

    @Aine O Connor: by retweeying the picture. He didn’t delete it immediately he retweeted it instead

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:58 PM

    Breejits

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:41 PM

    This effort just keeps getting funnier. The gift that keeps on giving. UFO sightings over Gatwick a more believable story.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 2:08 PM

    Crawley’s are Gona have some case against the papers for being Grade A Pr!cks and rightly so.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:29 PM

    It’s all a bit like Brexit really The UK is in a mess “total cock up of a police investigation “

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:30 PM

    GREAT Britain …

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    Dec 24th 2018, 3:53 PM

    @Batster: G B. Grotty brexit

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:15 PM

    It was a UFO

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    Dec 24th 2018, 5:29 PM

    Russians did it, or can they play that again

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:54 PM

    No way seeing no footage..

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:08 PM

    @Sportmad: Here is footage of a possible quad copter-drone over the airport…

    https://news.sky.com/video/gatwick-drone-caught-on-camera-in-unverified-footage-11587927

    The latest news is that a reporter pressed a police officer to say there might have been no drones over the airport, the reporter got his soundbite and that sells papers. T he police have just clarified that there were 67 verified sighting of one or more drones over the airport.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:21 PM

    @David Jordan: are you aware sky is a murdoch thing.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:50 PM

    Arseholes.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 4:45 PM

    A bit of a mess all round

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    Dec 24th 2018, 3:12 PM

    An Post have a drone hiding in the G.P.O. Made me wonder…

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    Dec 25th 2018, 2:23 AM

    UFOs lol

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