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Pope Francis poses with Chile's President Sebastian Pinera and his wife Cecilia Morel. ALESSANDRO BIANCHI via PA Images

Pope Francis defrocks two Chilean bishops for sex abuse of minors

Defrocking means the offender is forbidden from exercising any clerical duties at all, even in private.

POPE FRANCIS HAS defrocked two Chilean bishops for the alleged sexual abuse of minors, the Vatican said in a statement today after a meeting between the pontiff and the president of Chile.

The decision to expel former archbishop Francisco Jose Cox Huneeus and former bishop Marco Antonio Ordenes Fernandez – the latest heads to roll in a country hit hard by the cleric abuse scandal – could not be appealed, it said.

Both were stripped of their priesthood “as a consequence of overt acts of abuse against minors”.

The announcement came a day after the pope accepted the resignation of Washington DC Archbishop Donald Wuerl, who has been blamed for not doing enough to deal with paedophile priests.

Today’s defrocking was “an extremely unusual, if not unprecedented” move, said Ines San Martin, a Vatican expert writing in the Crux specialist Catholic website.

Defrocking is considered the harshest penalty for priests within the Church and means the offender is forbidden from exercising any clerical duties at all, even in private.

Scores of new cases of priestly sexual abuse of minors have come to light in Chile, deepening a crisis in the Roman Catholic church that has also embroiled Pope Francis.

Today, Francis met with Chilean President Sebastian Pinera at the Vatican for talks on the “difficult situation” in Chile.

They discussed “the painful scourge of abuse of minors, reiterating the effort of all in collaboration to combat and prevent the perpetration of such crimes and their concealment,”  the Vatican said.

The leaders “shared the hope that the church could live a true rebirth,” Pinera said in a statement.

A total of 167 bishops, priests and lay members of the church are now under investigation for sexual crimes committed in the South American country since 1960.

Investigation ongoing 

Fernandez became a bishop at the age of 42 in 2006, but resigned just six years later, allegedly for health reasons.

It later transpired that he had been accused of sexual abuse, sparking both a church and a civil investigation.

“The civil investigation is still ongoing because he’s never responded to a court subpoena to give testimony,” Vatican expert San Martin said.

Fernandez was last seen in public in 2013 and had reportedly been living a life of penitence and prayer in Peru, she said.

Cox has long been the object of abuse allegations dating back to the 1970s.

The Vatican on Saturday said he would remain a part of the Institute of the Schoenstatt Fathers in Germany.

The prelate, now 85 and reportedly in precarious health, has resided in the institute since 2002, San Martin said.

Pope Francis has already apologised repeatedly to Chileans over the scandal, admitting the church failed “to listen and react” to the allegations, but vowed to “restore justice”. 

In May, the Argentine pontiff accepted the resignation of five Chilean bishops amid accusations of abuse and related coverups.

Francis himself became mired in the scandal when, during a trip to Chile in January, he defended 61-year-old bishop Juan Barros, who was accused of covering up abuse by paedophile priest Fernando Karadima in the 1980s and 1990s.

Karadima was suspended for life by the Vatican over the allegations of child molestation. 

Francis eventually accepted he was wrong to defend Barros and subsequently accepted his resignation.

© AFP 2018 

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    Mute Andy Dwyer
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    Jun 7th 2018, 1:01 PM

    It’s great when the papers advertise all the tips and tricks.

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    Jun 7th 2018, 1:02 PM

    All beside their family I hope….

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    Jun 7th 2018, 1:03 PM

    @darrell fahy: families I mean

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    Jun 7th 2018, 1:51 PM

    @darrell fahy: with large gardens!

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    Jun 7th 2018, 1:58 PM

    Can we please get back to the topic of free housing?
    I am sick to my back teeth of talking about women from the waist down, Maurice McCabe and Magdalena Laundries….

    Give me some David Drumm and the effects of the outcome of his case on the Quinn family.

    Spice it up please Journal…..!!!!

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    Jun 7th 2018, 2:58 PM

    @Gareth Cooney: And do you not think that people that suffered abuse and many had to run of the this country for the own protection from the state, police and church is not news worthy? What free house, I like many am on a housing list for 9 years with a special needs child no way of working as I am a full time carer and no way of ever getting a loan or a mortgage, I pay €84 per week to the council towards my rent on the RAS scheme but my term with my landlord is up next February and I could find myself on the street. http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/housing/local_authority_and_social_housing/rental_accommodation_scheme.html

    And I would agree about David Drumm and the Quinns, I even believe they are trying to start up their business again in phase 2 of the Celtic tiger.

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    Jun 7th 2018, 4:02 PM

    @Charliegrl80:
    The rent paid on a RAS scheme is 10% of your income….. How are you paying €84 per week?

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    Jun 7th 2018, 4:11 PM

    @joeyhem: my son and myself are on the rent

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    Mute Gareth Cooney
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    Jun 7th 2018, 4:33 PM

    @Charliegrl80: I don’t believe you spotted any satire or sarcasm in my comment.
    However, I sympathise with your circumstances and encourage you to continue to play as best you can the hand that life dealt you.

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    Jun 7th 2018, 7:08 PM

    @Gareth Cooney: I did get the sarcasm but I felt it as a person that struggles daily.

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    Mute Tom Molloy
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    Jun 7th 2018, 1:04 PM

    We will not get a surge in accommodation building enrollment the PRTB is disbanded and bedsits are available again. The more likely development is the building of hundreds of Ballymun Towers Eastern Europe state housing.

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    Mute BananaRepublic1922
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    Jun 7th 2018, 2:23 PM

    @Tom Molloy: You have that already….Irish people having to move out of housing estates as they have been over run by foreign migrants who do’int give a dam, its just some where to stay, zero integration, while the whole area turns into a kip.

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    Mute Robin Pickering
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    Jun 7th 2018, 5:39 PM

    @BananaRepublic1922: and where are they moving to?

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    Jun 7th 2018, 2:59 PM

    Loss of tenancy in the private rental sector or relationship breakdown may be contributing factors to people needing a home but homelessness is caused by the lack of adequate social housing. Demand outstrips supply and the government expect the private sector to fix it, instead of properly addressing the issue themselves.

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    Mute Paula Doran
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    Jun 7th 2018, 3:14 PM

    This is not rocket science. The majority that exit homelessness within the 12 months don’t get social housing, makes complete sense. Why is this even news? Other than to stir things up against homeless people?

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    Mute Gerry Glynn
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    Jun 7th 2018, 5:57 PM

    You can work hard in this country and not be able to afford a house , fact .social
    Inclusion. Or stop all social inclusion including farmers

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    Jun 7th 2018, 10:52 PM

    @Gerry Glynn: What does working hard have to do with it? I could work a 85 hour work week in McDonald’s flipping burgers. I don’t expect to be able to afford a home on that wage in Dublin nor should I.

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    Jun 8th 2018, 1:46 AM

    @Leroy: what’s your question

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    Jun 7th 2018, 10:47 PM

    As someone who is currently at risk of homelessness it is beyond ridiculous. My rental accommodation went up for sale 6 months ago & I have been searching for another property ever since to no avail. I now have 16 days to vacate as it has been sold with no where to go with my 2 children, nothing is being done to help people in my situation. I have been told by numerous people, ie local reps & council, that “we cannot help you, come back when your homeless”. There is no properties to rent & the ones available I contacted over the 6 months, I either didn’t get a call back to even view the property or told “more suitable tenants” got the rental, what is so wrong with renting a house to a responsible single lady & 2 children. I have worked for many years and paid my taxes like everyone else & I would never push for a council house but it’s crazy to ask for help or advice when your in this situation,but be told, “come back to us when your homeless”..

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    Jun 8th 2018, 1:01 AM

    @Lisa Gordon: Hi Lisa, I’m sorry to hear your situation, you should touch base with some of the homeless organizations depending on what side of the country you are in thay can give you advice on what to do. I had been in a similar situation 13 weeks ago but i know you are under alot of pressure with the two kids. Stay strong and it will work out

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    Jun 9th 2018, 1:01 PM

    @Homeless Express: thank you. I contacted our local focus ireland and got some help & information. It really comes down to lack of properties on the rental market. There are so many vacant houses here in my locality either abandoned or mostly up for sale. Finally got another viewing on a house which is 15/20 minutes drive from where I currently live in a small just outside of Sligo town but fingers crossed I get it. Unfortunately it is in a locality I’m not familiar with, no family or friends or a car to visit anyone or get the kiddies to school and no bus services in the area but as you said the only thing is to stay strong & work hard to secure something.. anything. And everything else can be worked on from there. It’s great to receive a positive comment from someone who has been through before. Sincerest thanks.

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    Jun 9th 2018, 11:49 PM

    @Lisa Gordon: Anytime all the best you’re doing great it’s just another chapter in life and you will be proud of looking back in years to come. My advice is take anything you can for now and work out the logistics later. All the best

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    Jun 7th 2018, 3:35 PM

    Stupid people spend whole life working hard to pay mortgages and homeless getting it for free. Great idea for getting free home and doing nothing.

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    Jun 7th 2018, 5:38 PM

    @Paddy Power: give up work and go and live on the street then if you think it’s a better option.

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    Jun 7th 2018, 8:37 PM

    @Robin Pickering: except families are not on the street are they ..

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    Jun 7th 2018, 9:57 PM

    @Siobhán Ni Mhurchú: Main streets no, under bushes at night, pushed out of sight, so as not to hurt the eyes of the onlookers. Homeless was bad enough but hiding as well as homeless away from opinions and judgment. Free homes me arse, I’m homeless and not looking for a house because there is plenty that needs it more than me. Do me a favour. if you have such a strong opinion of the homeless go and spend a day volunteering I bet you change your mind.

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    Jun 7th 2018, 2:33 PM

    @Gareth Cooney: Ouch! Waiting for the onslaught! And you have a point tbh.

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    Jun 7th 2018, 4:34 PM

    @Margate: indeed but I think I might have recovered slightly with my response to the big one.

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