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Casey at the disputed site this afternoon.

Peter Casey denies racism as he travels to site of Traveller dispute - but says it's not his issue to solve

Casey has been been roundly criticised by all his fellow candidates for several comments he has made about Traveller ethnicity.

LAST UPDATE | 18 Oct 2018

Updated 6pm

PETER CASEY TRAVELLED to the site of a dispute between a Tipperary Traveller family and the local authority this afternoon but said that it was not up to him to resolve the issue. 

The presidential hopeful has been roundly criticised by all his fellow candidates for several comments he has made about Traveller ethnicity and today said it was “nonsense” to say he was racist. 

Casey introduced the issue of Traveller ethnicity by referencing the dispute involving members of the Travelling Community at Cabragh, outside Thurles. 

A number of families are in a dispute with the local authority and say that they agreed to move from their current location to a new housing development if it included grazing land for horses.

The residents say that the impetus for the development came from the council and that Traveller-appropriate accommodation must include grazing lands for horses. 

 The development is located across the road from where the families are currently living and there was a significant garda presence there this afternoon as Casey and his campaign team arrived with a group of reporters.

A silent protest by a number of local Traveller groups followed Casey’s appearance and a number of them expressed disappointed that he would not engage with the Traveller residents. 

Casey left after speaking to the media and denied that it was his role to help solve the dispute he was bringing to national attention

“I don’t want to resolve it,” Casey said, arguing that he would be intruding if he did so.

It’s up to the county councils to decide whose houses they are, and I don’t think it’s appropriate to go and intrude on somebody’s privacy, I really don’t.

Tipperary County Council was one of the councils that nominated Casey for the presidency last month and he denied that he has left this issue until now to use during his campaign.

I said I found out about it because Tipperary was one of my nominees and I was staying connected to it. And I was planning to come down and I found out about this. If I’d found out about it four weeks ago I would have spoken about it four weeks ago.

Casey’s comments about Traveller ethnicity have been decried as racist by a number of his fellow candidates and Traveller groups. Standing at the site today, Casey called these claims “nonsense”.

I think it’s just nonsense, they’re not a different race. The Proclamation says every child should be cherished equally, and there’s not a racist bone in my body. I believe they’re equal to everyone else, I don’t believe they’re better or worse than anybody.

Casey also said that the dispute must be viewed in the context of the homeless crisis: “There’s one and a half million people who’ve left Ireland and can’t afford to come home, they’d love to come home if they could have a house like this.”

20181018_151034 A protest by Travellers and settled people after Casey's event this afternoon. TheJournal.ie TheJournal.ie

Speaking to reporters after Casey had moved on from the entrance to the estate, Margaret Casey of the Tipperary Rural Traveller Project said that the candidate was attempting to pit different sections of society against one another.

“Peter Casey doesn’t represent all people, he might be looking down on members of the Travelling community today but what about all the other ethnic minority groups? What about the other settled people that are living in terrible, dire situations. This is a president that we don’t want representing us in the future,” she said.

Margaret Casey told reporters that the families had not requested the development and that owning horses is intrinsic to Traveller life.

She highlighted the mental health problems among the Traveller Community and said that forcing them to abandon owning horses is not helpful.

If he wants to come into dialogue with us, with members of the Travelling community as part of the Tipperary Rural Traveller Project and wants to be educated around all the issues the travellers face in terms of suicide, seven times higher than the national average. Every day, there’s not a day gone by that we’re not standing at a graveside, burying our children, our men and our women from suicide.

She added: “I want to know why he came here? It’s a political stunt to pit one vulnerable section of Irish society against another. We understand there’s a homeless crisis, Travellers have always had accommodation issues, it’s not since 2011. It’s a long-term issue.”

“They’re fantastic houses, all the residents have no objection to the houses. The residents have told me to tell the local authority to give them to anybody who’s homeless and wants the houses.”

One of the local residents Barry McCarthy said it was not the families who wanted the houses built.

We’re not going to forget our livestock just to move across the road here if the council don’t cooperate with us at the very start. It was their idea to build these houses, it was their idea to promise the land and now they’re not giving us anything.

He added that he was disappointed Casey would not meet the families:

“I’m very disappointed. What was the reason him coming this far? And then just move off as quick. I was willing to meet him, if he was coming to meet us.”

After leaving the site outside Thurles, Casey travelled to the centre of the town where he and his campaign team met well-wishers in Hayes Hotel.

A number of hours before his arrival, Casey’s campaign told TheJournal.ie that the event would be inside and that the candidate would meet people and take questions.

Representatives in the hotel had said that no Peter Casey event was booked for today and the hotel’s general manager told TheJournal.ie at the time the campaign would need to give “some notice” if a booking was to be made. 

It’s understood a booking for the hotel was supposed to have been made yesterday by Casey’s team.

In the end, Casey and his team stayed in the bar area of the hotel and met with a number of people who spoke to him.

Virgin Media Television Presidential Debate 11_90556563 Peter Casey at Virgin Media 1 studios yesterday Brian McEvoy Photography Brian McEvoy Photography

Casey’s has been defending his comments about Travellers for the past two days after he told the Irish Independent’s politics podcast that Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority because they are “basically people camping in someone else’s land”.

On last night’s debate on Virgin Media One, Casey stated Ireland was now a “melting pot”, and that one group shouldn’t be chosen as “special” by having their ethnicity officially recognised.

Speaking this morning, Casey has responded to further criticism of his remarks by saying he will be politically correct if he becomes the next Irish president.

Speaking to The Neil Prendeville Show on RedFM, Casey revealed that he made his remarks against the advice of his campaign team.

“It was a little bit like the golf ball video,” he said. “I didn’t expect this to take off like it has. Everyone on my team said not to say it.”

Casey also told the show that he was “tired” of political correctness, but once again denied he was racist or inciting hatred.

“I’ll be politically correct when I’m president, because I have to be,” he said.

“I understand the Constitution … when you’re president, you can’t make statements without getting them cleared by the government.”

Moments after the interview, Casey’s comments were criticised in the Dáil by Tánaiste Simon Coveney, who said he did not know if wanted to “give more oxygen” to them.

He said Irish politics tends not to resort to the “lowest common denominator politics” where candidates built profiles on “a prejudice that is undoubtedly there, but should not be stoked up”.

“This is a vulnerable ethnic community in Ireland,” he said, adding that those who wanted to be in public office should show “leadership and generosity” in terms of trying to improve and change the narrative around Travellers.

With additional reporting from Christina Finn and Stephen McDermott

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    In all honesty, though, who gives rice milk to children and thinks it’s a healthy choice?

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    @sean o’dhubhghaill: It’s scary that they even have to tell people this, but I remember some poor Belgian child dying a few years ago cause their vegan parents somehow thought it was a good idea to wean them on to the like of this. Remember this is a world where they need to put warnings on microwave manuals, to not put animals in them.

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    Mar 11th 2022, 8:07 AM

    @sean o’dhubhghaill: people who’s children have an intolerance to diary which is very common. The problem is people try alternatives without consulting a nutritionist. Probably due to the expense.

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    Mar 11th 2022, 8:37 AM

    @Rmaybe: goats milk is a safe alternative, the makeup of goats milk is the nearest of all milks to breast milk.

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    @Paul Gorry: is it though? Was it always? And now we are of an age to see it for what it really is?

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    @Dearbhla O Reilly: caps of to you Dearbhla very fair point.

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    Cows milk is for calves. I’ll take my chances with arsenic atm

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    @Susan McMahon: cows milk may be for calves but if you think drinking something natural like that is wrong how to you reconcile drinking milk from rice. Rice! Surely something that can only exist as a result of an industrial manufacturing process can’t be better than drinking cows milk? Does your cat feel the same way? I mean how do you even milk rice? Their nipples must be tiny.

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    @Susan McMahon: I’m sure you drank your fair share of milk when you were young, so if it’s only for calves, that would make you a cow now.

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    @Susan McMahon: cows milk is for calves. Correct. There is no evidence to show that cows milk is harmful for humans. Also correct

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    @Susan McMahon: It’s been good enough for humans for the last 10,000 years. So much so that we’ve almost lost our adult lactose intolerance that other mammals keep. Now that’s progress!

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    @Ivan Connolly: Cats have lactose intolerance. Even though they may enjoy the odd plate of milk, they tend to have nasty diarrhoea afterwards.

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    @Susan McMahon: Thats not what the article is about, it about possibly poisoning children with oat extract.

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    Mar 11th 2022, 9:45 AM

    Vegan warriors trying to push their way on us .. if I want a sizzling steak with cheese and a big pint of milk I will have it so pipe down . 95% of the country like it that way

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    @Gerrard: who are you telling to pipe down? Reading through the comments it doesn’t look like anyone is trying to dictate to you.

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    This got a mention on Joe Duffy yesterday as a viable alternative.

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    Mar 11th 2022, 11:15 AM

    @Pat Barry: As part of a balanced diet, rice milk can be fine. As a substitute for infant formula or breast milk – not so much.

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    Mar 11th 2022, 3:32 PM

    Rice extract can be a usual diet supplement. It is not milk, nr is any of the other overly prices “milks” being sold. It is extract from nuts.
    The arrogance of people to decide to feed a child a substance that can kill the child due to their beliefs is frightening.
    Not surprising as there are plenty of anti vaxers out there.
    As for vegans, fine if you want to be one, off you go. Just please do not hold a high and mighty attitude and lecture us. Who choose not to be. I respect your decision, not respect mine. I dont want to be told that I am eating a baby, when eating meat. I am eating a farm animal. Possibly a young farm animal. Not a baby. Besides all you do is make me more determined to eat more meat. I try and eat as much free range and ethically farmed meat as possible. It is not always possible on a pension. I am not a middle class professional earning good money.

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