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'I realised we really needed to get more involved': Migrants on how they're helping change Irish politics

With local and European elections coming up in May 2019, more migrants in Ireland are becoming interested in how their vote can help shape the country.

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“THE FACE OF the Irish population is changing,” says Joanna Siewierska (21), who came as a child to live in Ireland 14 years ago. 

She was speaking at an information session on migrant voter registration, organised by City of Sanctuary Dublin. It’s a campaign focused on informing migrants about their right to vote in Irish elections.

“It’s becoming much more diverse,” Siewierska says of Ireland. “And our decision makers are not reflecting that, and that’s not good enough, for them or for us.”

Next year will see the Irish local and European elections in May, and there is an interest in getting migrants who are eligible to vote registered in order to become part of the conversation on the future of Irish society. 

Amman Ali (24), originally from Pakistan and who has been living in Ireland since 2011, is planning on going one step further and put himself forward as a Fianna Fáil candidate in the Dublin southwest inner city area.

“It was a great experience,” he says about becoming a member of Fianna Fáil. “They accepted me, they welcome me.” 

“It was a chance for me to raise the voice of my community, who didn’t have a voice before…to raise migrant issues, the local issues that was affecting my area.”

Tian Lloyd (36), who works at City of Sanctuary Dublin and came to Ireland from China 16 years ago, says many migrants aren’t aware of their rights when they first come to a new country.

With the popularity of social media, she said it made them realise that there were actually a lot of issues among their communities that weren’t being addressed.

“I realised we really needed to get more involved,” she says.

It’s part of not only integrating into Irish communities, but working together with native-born Irish to make the country a better society for all, she says.

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    Mute Jaci Black
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    Oct 21st 2018, 8:35 PM

    100% – Get involved, integrate and enjoy us!

    How many Muslim girls and women are actively involved in the GAA, soccer, rugby, swimming, hurley, badminton, camogie, athletics, mixed martial arts, community games, and cycling? When was the last time you saw a Muslim girl/woman out walking a dog or even out walking by themselves on a bright summer’s night, alone?

    I support integration, but I don’t see it. Many non nationals support the large supermarkets, charity shops and the libraries. They don’t and won’t integrate or support our local businesses.
    When Irish people live, work and vacation abroad ,they integrate, not because of coercion, simply because they want to and embrace new cultures. A natural transition. It should go both ways.

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    Oct 21st 2018, 8:55 PM

    @Jaci Black: Why should anybody do what you would like them to do? As long as they’re not breaking any laws they can do as they please, surely?

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    Oct 21st 2018, 10:03 PM

    @Mark Waldron: Problem Mark is we don’t know who we are letting in, no way of finding their true identity.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-whose-deportation-stopped-outraged-13414585.amp

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    Oct 21st 2018, 10:18 PM

    @Ger Murphy: That’s a British report about a deportation. What has it got to do with the vast majority of people who aren’t criminals?

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    Oct 21st 2018, 10:35 PM

    @Mark Waldron: It could easily be an Irish report, our borders are open for all sorts, Sinn Fein says there is 120k of illegals in Ireland who were never vetted, we need stricter borders here. We are been used here as welfare migrants flood in. We had only last week in a school in Balbriggan where a son of a Nigerian migrant threatens to gun down every one that attends school, school had to be shut down for the day, what is this country coming to? We got to wake up.

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    Oct 21st 2018, 10:49 PM

    @Mark Waldron: No, they’re economic migrants, while IRL Exports it’s Youth.

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    Oct 21st 2018, 10:49 PM

    @Jaci Black: Do you cut & paste this for every article mentioning immigrants?

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    Oct 21st 2018, 10:58 PM

    @Mark Waldron: Because people with Vastly different Cultures and mindsets BRING Their Culture TO Ireland. They then want to Enforce THEIR Culture on the Native Irish Population. They segregate themselves from the Irish, who fought off Plantation for nearly 700 years ! & a ‘contrived’ Famine 170 years ago, Rebellion after Rebellion, & a Civil War. FG/FF are Pawns, & clearly part of the problem.

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    Oct 21st 2018, 11:01 PM

    @Jaci Black: Respect Majority NO to Anchor Babies
    https://www.change.org/p/respect-majority-no-to-anchor-babies-79-in-2004

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 7:17 AM

    @Fionn_Oisín: I have absolutely no idea what our borders have to do with Britain. Seems like you just threw in the patriotic cheerleading for effect. Who is enforcing their culture on us? What have we been forced to do? What’s even funnier than that is that we as a nation holiday in Spain a lot and have actually forced cultural changed their but sure that’s not the same at all I suppose.

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 8:55 AM

    @Fionn_Oisín: Racist, xenophobic nonsense based on nothing but ignorance and hate. Stop spreading these lies you moron.

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 9:03 AM

    @Jaci Black: I’ve seen Muslim girls play GAA with and without the head scarf, I’ve seen Muslim women walking alone. Most Irish people shop in the large supermarkets. If a Muslim opens and shop and they shop there that’s supporting local business

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 10:17 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: People like Jaci see what they want to see.

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 12:02 PM

    @Jaci Black: quite an anecdotal position there, Jaci.. odd how you single out Muslims.. different nationalities mix/engage/integrate in different ways ..there are no fixed rules..hows this for some integrated GAA though? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex78dBceVV8 ‘They dont/wont” Also.. thats quite an assertion but the stats on Irish opinion dont support that.. http://www.thejournal.ie/80-of-irish-people-believe-immigrants-integrate-successfully-3967095-Apr2018/.. there are communities of foreigners in Ireland just as there are Irish communities abroad..its really no big deal.. but your post strikes me as a tad disingenuous..

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 4:28 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: What’s the difference between British Plantation or Global Plantation ? It’s Soros Plantation to Overthrow the native population, via huge Tax payer funded NGOs, all over White ‘Christian’ Europe, 2 create a Low wage, Mixed race Federation, 4 ‘Globalist Socialism’. What have holidays got to do with it ? There are 30,000+ illegal NON-EU immigrants in IRL, causing a rise in rents & adding to the housing crisis, (SF estimates 100,000). If IRL has access to a Labour Market of 500 MILLION, why does it need NON-EU migrants? As for forced cultural changes, what about the Mega Mosque that NONE of the native Irish want in Dublin 15 ? People do not magically drop their Ethnic Identity & Ancestry, & become Irish. They want the best of both worlds…., to BRING their identity…, & Enforce it onto the Host Nation, but in a higher wage Country. simple.

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 4:31 PM

    @Mark Waldron: Yr suffering from Globalist Brainwash, it’s common sense. ‘Racism’ goes both ways. Whites Are a Race, like any other, like Asians, Africans, etc. What would u say to this so ?
    https://redice.tv/news/norway-is-too-white-according-to-the-president-of-the-jewish-community-in-oslo

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 4:36 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: It’s supports Halal & animal cruelty. In Dublin 15, the Mega Mosque to be, will enable muslims to segregrate themselves from the community, with primary & secondary schools (Sharia), sports grounds, shopping, restaurants, in fact they will not have to mix with the native population, which will create an enclave, /a community Within a community.

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    Oct 24th 2018, 3:37 PM

    @Fionn_Oisín: Brett

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    Oct 24th 2018, 3:37 PM

    @Fionn_Oisín: Breitbart much??!!

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    Oct 21st 2018, 7:19 PM

    I was hoping that migrants would help change Ireland’s political landscape for the better finally. Help break the cycle of our corrupt civil war party cartel and essentially assist in saving us from ourselves. But then I see this Pakistani lad is running for Fianna Fáil. That’s the end of that theory so..

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    Oct 21st 2018, 10:43 PM

    @Tweed Cap: yes they will work very hard at bringing All Migrants to Ireland, in fact they couldn’t give a damn about the Irish People. They would be fine with their Ethnocide.

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    Oct 21st 2018, 8:53 PM

    We have, allegedly a slow but significant relationship with ‘sharia law’ introduced in to some ‘Educate Together’ schools that mandate and dictate how a girl is dressed to attend school.

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    Oct 21st 2018, 9:02 PM

    @Jaci Black: What evidence do you have for this claim?

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    Oct 21st 2018, 10:45 PM

    @Mark Waldron: Kalergi’s plan to ‘breed out’ White ‘Christian’ Europe.
    https://sovereignwales.com/2016/09/20/the-genocidal-kalergi-plan-to-destroy-the-indigenous-nations-and-peoples-of-europe/

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    Oct 21st 2018, 11:04 PM

    @Jaci Black: there is an educate together school in my area and everyone wears the same uniform, a traditional school uniform. You’re taking absolute nonsense. Dangerous nonsense.

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    Oct 21st 2018, 11:20 PM

    @Dermot Lane: We really don’t know who we are importing that is the big problem here.
    http://www.thesun.ie/news/3229508/school-balbriggan-dublin-shut-teen-arrested-chilling-school-shooting-threat/amp/

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    Oct 21st 2018, 11:42 PM

    @Jaci Black: Yes, it is the ultimate objective to introduce and spread Islamic laws wherever Muslims live. Some years ago, there was a proposal to introduce Sharia Law in a Canadian city – Toronto or Ottowa, I forget which and sorry I don’t have links to offer. The city concerned had a very substantial population of Muslims who got representatives elected to public office and became a very influential lobby group.
    When it came to a vote, the proposal was narrowly voted down. Who is to say it won’t be successful in the future there – or in Ireland? The Muslim religion is now the second largest in Ireland, after the RCC.

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    Oct 21st 2018, 11:59 PM

    @Jaci Black: You may be right….
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysBJ5G4m67s

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 8:56 AM

    @Canny Jem: Racist, xenophobic nonsense based on nothing but ignorance and hate. Stop spreading these lies you moron.

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 10:18 AM

    @Mark Waldron: None of course, the loon is strong in the air today.

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 6:02 PM

    @neilo: You’re so behind the curve, it’s Frightening… Richard Kalergi, 1924, …EU Founding Father, look it up… Merkel received a Kalergi Prize, is it any surprise..? do yr research.

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    Oct 21st 2018, 9:00 PM

    So 5000 illegal hildren imigrants here .And the chinese woman found with illegal passports for herself and child in Wicklow.Also had given false information ,saying the childs father was Irish.

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    Oct 21st 2018, 10:51 PM

    @ciaran111: Hidden illegals, the middle class are funding their Education for a decade !, while they Repeal after Repeal, again at the taxpayers Expense.

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 6:36 AM

    I’m a migrant from Brazil and I’m loving Ireland. As a migrant I really don’t see any problems regarding our community. I really get afraid of some communities saying government should do this or that for them. See, if you move to other country you have to embrace this new country culture and not impose yours! That’s what I and my family have done, we have lots of Irish friends, we share dinners, so children play together and we learn a lot about Irish history. So, government, you are ok with us, we don’t need a representative for ‘fight’ for us, what we need are good politicians to keep our improve this country we love because this is our home.

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 4:42 PM

    @Paulo Quicoli: Ireland may be yr home, but how many Brazilians should Ireland take ? Ireland already has access to an EU Labour Market of 500 Million.. Irish people have to apply for a Work Permit OUTSIDE the EU, & many have to return to Ireland, when their Permit expires, e.g Australia.

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 5:52 PM

    @Paulo Quicoli: yes, there are migrants living peacefully among us, & others of Vastly different cultures who Segregate themselves by choice. However, this is a deliberate Soros initiative, throughout the EU, to undermine the Nation State. When the Irish move abroad, they don’t get placed in Governments of other Countries (because they’re ‘a minority’ in that Country), or as FG/FF are suggesting, unelected, & via a quota system ! Also, the question remains, how many Brazilians should Ireland take in ? Ireland already has access to an EU Labour Market of 500 Million. Irish people have to apply for a Work Permit Outside the EU, & many have to leave when their permit expires.

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    Oct 21st 2018, 7:17 PM

    Just hope they don’t get the brush off like Gemma O’Doherty did !

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    Oct 21st 2018, 7:29 PM

    @Johnny Mason: maybe she should run in the local elections or the Dail elections, where she might be able to influence things, instead of aiming for the presidency, the most powerless political position in the state.

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    Oct 21st 2018, 7:30 PM

    @Johnny Mason: The anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorist Gemma O’Doherty? Yeah, it’s hard to see why she has no supporters.

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    Oct 21st 2018, 7:53 PM

    @Dermot Lane: Is it possible that she also wanted to exposing even the most powerless political position in this State is a process that resembles a most undemocratic farse that is still in operation

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    Oct 21st 2018, 10:48 PM

    @Mark Waldron: conspiracy ? did u do any research ? ….or u believe the media ?!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JINYzaqtHw

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    Oct 21st 2018, 10:51 PM

    @Johnny Mason: 4 non political no-hopers managed to get on the ticket and 3 of them are running at 3 or 4 %. The fact is she would be less popular than any of them if pre campaign polls are to be believed. So the fact she wasn’t nominated actually mirrors public opinion. There was no conspiracy to keep her off the ticket, that’s just nonsense.

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 8:57 AM

    @Fionn_Oisín: I’ve done plenty of research on anti-vaxxers. They are delusional morons, just like you.

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 5:54 PM

    @Mark Waldron: That lovely boy Colton is dead, take a look at the video, he was VAXXED by HPV.

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    Oct 21st 2018, 7:06 PM

    Best of luck to em….
    Can’t do any worse than our own home grown beauties

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 8:49 AM

    Why are the journal deleting comments and perfectly good debates?

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 8:58 AM

    @Headtheball: Because of your overt racism you fool.

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 9:31 AM

    @Mark Waldron: Please tell me what I said that was ‘overtly’ racist, you fool?

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 11:01 AM

    @Headtheball: I read your deleted comments last night. All your nonsense about immigrants being required to integrate into Irish society. What right do you have to tell anyone what they should and should not do?

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 3:16 PM

    @Mark Waldron: I haven’t seen his comments but how is wanting people to integrate into Irish society racist?

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 3:29 PM

    @Liam O’Conchubhair: Wanting something is different from requiring people to integrate. Why should they turn their back on their cultural heritage to fit in with what others find acceptable? Requiring them to conform to our society is inherently racist. People who are not breaking any laws should be allowed live their lives in whatever way they see fit.

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 3:42 PM

    @Mark Waldron: First of all none of my comments had anything to do with integration so that’s a load of contrived nonsense, secondly what is wrong with that view? Surely there should be integration? Thirdly, how is that view racist?

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 3:43 PM

    @Mark Waldron: You surely are a troll

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 3:52 PM

    @Headtheball: Your memory is failing. You spoke about not minding a certain number of immigrants coming here as long as they integrate. Why should they be required to do what you want them to do? Who put you in charge of what people wear, or who, what, where or when they worship, where they shop, what they eat and who they associate with? It all sounds quite like the ‘sharia law’ you lot or all so terrified is going to be implemented here. What’s wrong with people retaining their cultural heritage?

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 4:26 PM

    @Mark Waldron: Again you are opening lying my argument had nothing to with integration it was based on the fact that the blonde haired lady said that we should ‘welcome and home all of us’ – I argued that we already have 17% of the population being migrants and posed the question of what percentage we stop and think is too much. I also said I am tolerant to other views, religions and ways of life. I have no problem with people maintaining the cultural heritage. Now to your point about integration, please give me a modern example of a country that has not integrated migrants but in return has a perfectly functioning society?

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 4:35 PM

    @Mark Waldron: The only one I can think of is Sweden, those leftist loonies have ruined their own country with that train of thought

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 5:58 PM

    @Mark Waldron: Why should Europe be obliged to ‘integrate’ into their culture ? Why can’t Europeans build Churches in the Middle East & the Gulf? Tolerance goes Both ways. Or should tolerance only be Enforced in White ‘Christian’ Countries..?

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    Oct 23rd 2018, 12:14 PM

    @Mark Waldron: should Christians be allowed to build churches in Saudi Arabia then? After all, why should they be expected to turn their backs on their beliefs?

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 11:32 AM

    I would be concerned about whether or not deep background checks were carried on on migrants running for office. Just look at Luton and ask do we really want this situation for Dublin.

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 4:03 PM

    @Fionnuala Hendrick: What happened in Luton?

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 4:45 PM

    @Mark Waldron: Luton has high levels of immigration & threatened with Sharia Law, & Bradford has 99 Mosques. Some towns in the UK are intimidating the local White British businesses in the area, to get them to leave the area, so they can colonize it with Sharia Law.

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 7:31 AM

    Last paragraph says it all

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    Oct 22nd 2018, 4:46 PM

    @Shawn O’Ceallaghan: It’s called Free Speech.

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