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A LEADING DOCTORS’ group has hit out at reports that GPs will receive fees of up to €450 for providing abortion services.
Reports today suggested that an agreement had been reached between the Irish Medical Organisation and the Department of Health and HSE over how much doctors would receive for performing terminations.
It comes after the Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy Bill passed committee stage last week, with the bill set to return to the Dáil for report stage later this month.
However, the National Association of General Practitioners has criticised discussion of a pay structure for doctors who would provide terminations as “inappropriate”.
In a statement this evening, the association’s chief executive Chris Goodey said that there were still a number of questions surrounding the procedure that needed to be resolved.
“It is more important that discussions around safe and effective provision of services, rather than fees, are put in place at this time,” he said.
The association was also critical that it was not involved in discussions about how to provide terminations in a safe and effective manner, adding that it was “imperative” that more engagement with GPs took place.
“GPs should be fully trained and supported to provide a termination of pregnancy service of the highest and safest standards,” Goodey added.
“We must strive for a compassionate, supportive and respectful service that accommodates the needs and beliefs of all stakeholders.”
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And it begins…..the hard pressed average tax payer will end up funding this.
@Dead Mousche: Yeah, because the cost of a full-term pregnancy is so much cheaper for the tax-payer.
@PaulineSmith: and 18 years of support for an unwanted child and possible subsequent welfare, healthcare etc for life…
@Sarah: of all the arguments to make for abortion economics is not one of them.
@Seamus Mac: but that is the point of this article- the cost.
@EvieXVI: the point of the article is how much doctors will be paid for performing an abortion .It is not about comparing the cost of looking after a child until they reach 18.
@Seamus Mac:why isn’t it one of them ?
@Francis Mc Carthy: because you’re talking about a human life being ended to save money.
@Seamus Mac: who introduced the argument of cost? I believe it was one of your pro birthers. If the argument is introduced and someone counter argues on that point you dont get to try pull a moral high ground on the counter argument.
@Seamus Mac: Potential human life.
@Dell: apologies, I should have said that it should not be used by either side of the debate.
@Seamus Mac: I wasn’t making an argument for it, I was elaborating on Pauline’s point but whether you like it or not money makes the world go round and is the primary determinate in most peoples lives as to whether or not they can do, well…most things really…I have met (as I’m sure most have) countless families who say they’d love to have more than one or two children but simply can’t afford it, so yeah, it’s a pretty damn big determinant because money ultimately determines your – and your children’s- quality of life. As a rule I have found that those who say “money can’t buy happiness” are usually the people who have it.
@Sarah: I think it’s a sad state of affairs when we have to abort our children due to the cost. Birth rates falling & we need immigration to make up the difference. Something is seriously wrong with our society.
@Seamus Mac: Yep, and making abortion illegal will only make it worse.
€450 Euro the 30 pieces of silver this government will pay for taking a precious life it’s just so, so wrong !
@Eire: Are you willing to adopt them all instead? Or does your effort for all these precious stop in a comment section?
@Eire: Nice biblical reference there. That mindset was relevant in society around the same time period I suppose….
@Sarah: that’s his whole point it’s draconian! Your pointing the finger at the average joe, I’m sure the leaders of our society should be held responsible!
Cue exaggerated moral outrage in 3,2,1 go.
The vast majority of ‘terminations’ performed by GPs will amount to little more than the prescription of medication.
@Only here for the comments: I never knew GP’s stationary was so expensive.
@Only here for the comments: oh that’s ok so, as long as the vast majority
@Only here for the comments: oh that’s ok so, as long as its the vast majority.
I do feel a little sorry for the few that have to go through the surgical abortion though. I’d imagine that’ll be painful but thankfully it’ll only be a few hundred annually.
@eric nelligan: I’m take that over having to ship them to the UK for the same procedure.
It should be like England, one abortion free and anymore after that should be at your own expense .
@Gavin Conran: “procedure” do you work for the ministry of truth?
@eric nelligan:”I do feel a little sorry for the few that have to go through the surgical abortion though. I’d imagine that’ll be painful but thankfully it’ll only be a few hundred annually.” <- Oh, dear…this coming from a guy that wanted thousands of Irish women to continue to travel to the UK,where the majority of Irish women were "choosing" the 'surgical abortion' over the 'medical abortion' :-)
Hey Eric; don't you go and start feeling any emotion towards the woman that will have a 'surgical abortion' …and as for you 'imagining' that there would be more pain involved,it only goes to show that you really don't know what you're talking about :) get a new hobby ,lad..
Wait I’ve got a great idea, why don’t they create a once a month pill for a MAN to take… then maybe the unwanted pregnancy would be greatly reduced! But if my memory serves me correctly, I dooo believe they did come up with a male version of the pill. But get this ladies it was proven to be bad in some minor ways to their health, whereas for women to take the pill! Well it can cause some serious health issues like cancer stroke stress heart attack depression anxiety ect ect ect… .
@Colette Kearns:
What man would you believe anyway if he told you he had taken his pill?
One thing will never change , it’s the woman who will fall pregnant.
@Colette Kearns: sure why not forget about condoms altogether sure who’s bothered about catching anything ?
@Aine O Connor: I suppose you could say “what woman would you believe that was taking the pill” also with the amount of men out there genuinely surprised to find out they have gotten someone pregnant but it is always best not to avoid taking responsibility on oneself and insisting on a condom (have you heard of those?) unless you are in a longer living trusting relationship with someone you intend to have children with. There is also the STDs issue relating to one night stands or short term relationships of course.
@Aine O Connor: “…it’s the woman who will” be impregnanted.
Imagine going to college for 8 yearrs, working your backside off, thousands of hours learning how to save people. You finally make it and then you find out you become a glorified butcher. Yikes!!
@Rocky Stefan: butchers handing out abortive pills in your area? You should contact the gardai, they aren’t licenced to do so.
@Rocky Stefan: That was a weak effort to be honest.
Pre and post counselling should be paramount for women and teenagers considering abortion.
@Jaci Black: you can’t have an abortion unless you receive counselling first anyway ..
@Siobhán Ni Mhurchú: That’s a joke to begin with. Who is going to be able to access counselling services within 72 hours?!! There are people who are suicidal who can’t access counselling. . . Who falls for this? It’s such a sham. It makes me sick . . .honestly. We have Kate O Connell suggesting that a pregnant woman isn’t carrying a life but a pregnancy. . . Is she for real? It’s just an effort to sanitised the taking of a life so we can sit a little more comfortably with ourselves and not face the harsh reality that abortion is the killing of an unborn child.
At least you know what your property and water charges are going towards especially if you voted against abortion, you still end up paying for that as some oulde poor sod is lying on a trolley dying in a hallway of a hospital… As this government has no opposition in the Dail except for the small parties, isn’t Ireland great…
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