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Leah Farrell

Matt Cooper: 'It's amazing the amount of politicians who asked if they could co-present the Tonight Show'

The show has had a revolving door of co-presenters one night a week after Ivan Yates cut his days due to illness. But some weren’t happy with Michael Healy-Rae being one of them.

THERE MIGHT HAVE been some complaints about Kerry TD Michael Healy-Rae guest presenting the Tonight Show in September, but it turns out plenty of politicians wanted to follow suit.

One of the show’s two presenters Matt Cooper made the revelation at the launch of Virgin Media Television’s new spring schedule this morning in Dublin. When asked about the plans for the show this year, he said that he’d continue doing four nights a week, with his co-presenter Ivan Yates doing three (due to back issues) – leaving the door open for another co-presenter one night a week.

Rather than go for a permanent stand-in, the Tonight Show has opted thus far for a revolving door of different presenters, including TheJournal.ie‘s news editor Sinéad O’Carroll.

The decision to choose a politician – particularly one as colourful as Michael Healy-Rae – as guest presenter one night didn’t go down well in some quarters. But it certainly attracted the attention of some in Leinster House. 

“For all the criticism it’s amazing the amount of politicians who asked if they could do it,” said Cork native Cooper when asked about the reaction to Healy-Rae stepping in.

Will more politicians be put in front of the autocue? “That is not my call, that is not my decision,” he said. “We haven’t done another politician since the time Michael Healy-Rae was on. It was one night, I know some people tried to say it was more than that but it was one night.”

He went on: “I think we’ll develop as we go along and see what other people are out there. But there are lots of people, your own Sinéad O’Carroll would be someone who would have been one of the more regular people that we would use, and there will be some people but it won’t be the same person every week.”

We’ve tried different people, some have worked very well others have worked not so well. There are new names who will be doing it over the next few weeks. So we’ll see. I don’t see that we will have a permanent guest replacement for Ivan, we’ll continue with just having different people coming in and hopefully that will give us what people want to see.

Finding their feet

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The show has been on air for 15 months, and Cooper said that he and Yates are still establishing themselves. “It took a little while for us to get used to the way each other did it, and the production teams to how we would do it,” he said of their presenting styles. “You’re always refining and you’re always trying to improve what you’re doing.”

After a few weeks off air during the Christmas break, they are now back before in studio. “Last night, the first night back [we had] what we thought was really the type of programme we wanted to do. We had really good guests, really good conversation, intelligent conversation, provocative, a few rows between people, some good laughs,” said Cooper.

“I think there is going to be a thing if people are going to be watching politics at 11pm at night they have to be entertained, and there is an element of that. We’re not trying to be po-faced, we’re not taking ourselves too seriously, we’re taking the things that are serious seriously.”

‘As a TV presenter you’re not a player’

Regarding his 2018 Tonight Show highlights, he said that the final Eighth Amendment Referendum debate with Micheál Martin and Mary Lou McDonald up against Declan Ganley was “really good, really serious, authoritative”.

“So when we have to do that type of stuff we will, and we will treat all the elections and everything with the respect and seriousness that they deserve, but at the same time I think you know we are aware that we are there almost to put a smile on people’s face going to bed as well,” he said.

In fairness I think Vincent [Browne] did that as well. Vincent was in the entertainment business as well. Now we do it differently and the times are different, so I’d be reasonably confident that we can continue developing it over the next six months, or till the end of July in this run.

With a political talkshow on four nights a week, Cooper has undoubtedly seen similar topics come up time and time again on the Tonight Show (never mind that he also presents a talk show, the Last Word, on Today FM weekday evenings).

Does he tire of seeing the same topics come up again and again with no sign of them being solved by the powers that be?

“I’m a working journalist for, I hate to say it, 30 years since I left college, and I’m well aware how long it takes to actually get change in anything,” he told TheJournal.ie. “But there’s always new things and there’s always new angles, and I think there’s always things that I find very interesting to explore on behalf of the viewers or on radio on behalf of the listeners. You can’t let yourself become frustrated by it.

You also got to remember as a TV presenter you’re not a player, you’re not a participant, we’re there to examine and we’re there to probe but … we’re not the ones responsible for finding the solutions. Yeah, we try and tease out solutions from the people who have the responsibility, but ultimately it comes down to them to deliver or not.

The Tonight Show airs on Virgin Media One from Monday – Thursday at 11pm.

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    Jan 8th 2019, 9:10 PM

    The show has lost its magic, without Vinnie, its now just your average drab talk show, still better than no show at all, but nothing compared what it used to be.

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    Jan 8th 2019, 9:10 PM

    Possibly because DOB has the programme scripted and we all know how well politicians preform when everything is scripted. Surprised the king of script ‘LEO’ hadn’t applied

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    Jan 8th 2019, 9:56 PM

    @Eugene Conroy: what has DOB got to do with Virgin Media?

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    Jan 8th 2019, 11:34 PM

    @Chin Feeyin: Nothing, he just owns Matt Cooper.

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    Jan 8th 2019, 9:23 PM

    Any programme that features Terry Prone as a commentator is tainted and should be treated as such.

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    Jan 8th 2019, 9:53 PM

    @Bobby Moore: but Terry can really take care of things.

    Of course when I say take care of I mean it in a mafia sense of covering up stuff by claiming stuff is made up and using misdirection to hide a horrific event.

    She really took care of the 796 bodies dumped in Tuam by the nuns after all, she’s a real class act.

    After all…. As she said herself… “If you come here, you’ll find no mass grave, no evidence that children were ever so buried”

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    Jan 8th 2019, 9:54 PM

    @Bobby Moore: also her muppet son Savage who was co presenting
    Once he came on I switched off.

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    Jan 9th 2019, 1:04 AM

    @Ciaran Daly: who’s her son?

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    Jan 9th 2019, 2:23 AM

    @Seamus Mac: Anton Savage Used to be on Today FM as well . No idea what hes doing now

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    Jan 9th 2019, 4:59 AM

    @James O’Donovan: He is currently the Managing Director of The Communications Clinic, his mothers PR company. Get the picture.

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    Jan 8th 2019, 9:40 PM

    Scripted bull.. Bring back Vinnie ..

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    Jan 8th 2019, 11:20 PM

    @Willy Mc Caul: and Après Match -(golden comedy with Lenihan and Burton from 2011)

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    Jan 8th 2019, 11:44 PM

    That’s hilarious really, the politicians wouldn’t go near Vincent, they feared him in their droves pathetic really! The show will NEVER be the same without Vinny!

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    Jan 9th 2019, 12:42 AM

    @Colette Kearns: Yes, also remember the no shows at the GE constituents debates around the country!

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    Jan 8th 2019, 9:58 PM

    Too many Looney Left on the panel. At one stage it became the Brid Smith show.

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    Jan 8th 2019, 9:32 PM

    Wouldn’t suit Leo to Co-host. He couldn’t handle having to share.

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    Jan 8th 2019, 11:08 PM

    unwatchable, wrong choice presenters. Matt Cooper, usual left wing,right on views.Ivan Yeats discredited political and business past. predictable boring panels,PBP and the hard left keep reappearing, also Terry Prone and her son, and Eamon Dunphy, ffs, nah I give it a wide berth .

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    Jan 8th 2019, 10:45 PM

    Cooper and Yeates what a complete and utter joke!!!!

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    Jan 9th 2019, 12:06 AM

    @Chris OB: aka Laurel & Hardy!!

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    Jan 9th 2019, 12:14 AM

    @Colette Kearns: stan and ollie had talent and were worth the money – not lie those 2 government arse kissers !

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    Jan 9th 2019, 2:19 AM

    @Eric Davies: I don’t know where you get that from. I don’t watch the TV programme but I listen to Yates’ radio show, and he never stops criticising the government.

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    Jan 9th 2019, 12:17 PM

    @Chin Feeyin: you dont know where i ‘get that from’ -but you dont watch the show ? well i have watched the show and just like every other irish ‘presenter’ (apart from vinnie b) neither yeats and his opo give ministers a hard time – they skirt around those ‘difficult subjects’ like housing , homelessness and health -they would rather talk about the latest book some gombeen has brought out or how much it costs to buy a new apartment in dalkey – if anyone on the panel looks like giving a fg or ff minister a bit of stick -dumb and dumber step in and interrupt . give it a watch – you might learn something on the other hand your more likely to fall asleep listening to their inane drivel !

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    Jan 8th 2019, 9:09 PM

    Why not?
    Just gve up all pretence of balanced impartial discussion , and here it straight from the horses mouth.

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    Jan 8th 2019, 10:28 PM

    Time on tv to boost your profile without having to answer to anything, thats heaven to these politicians.

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    Jan 8th 2019, 11:15 PM

    It’s amazing the amount of people who don’t watch the Tonight Show

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    Jan 8th 2019, 10:01 PM

    Wasn’t Ivan Yates a politician? Sure the pair of yis might as well be politicians for Fine Gael, you’re clearly fond of their mantra because you repeat and regurgitate enough of it on that shit show.
    #BringBackVincent

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    Jan 9th 2019, 12:17 AM

    @Ian Breathnach: yeats was ff and ran off to the uk to avoid paying what he owed here (declared himself bankrupt in the uk )- stayed there for 12 months then came back to his old jobs with a clean slate !! has the brass neck to give out about people who have lost homes and jobs -2 faced fecker !

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    Jan 9th 2019, 12:34 AM

    @Eric Davies: Yates was an FG minister.

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    Jan 9th 2019, 12:19 PM

    @Darach Malone: same thing these days – but thanks anyway – !

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    Jan 9th 2019, 6:34 AM

    Seen it for the first time in a long time on Monday. Thought it was truly awful. I think anybody would be better than Yeats and MC wasn’t much better. All contributors and interviewees to a program like that have to be interrupted or they with waffle on for ever.. But the number of times contributors were interrupted and stopped mid sentence when they appeared to be saying something of interest was astounding. The number of times I thought during the debates “what were they going to say” was so frustrating.

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    Jan 8th 2019, 11:31 PM

    The show was wonderful when Vincent did it!. We never missed it if possible. Now it’s a load of rubbish. I always liked Ivan but Matt Cooper is a complete git. He just loves the sound of his own voice and I think he feels in some way superior to Ivan , which he is most definitely NOT!!!! Can’t bear him.

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    Jan 9th 2019, 12:22 AM

    @Boxer Alice: 2 cheeks -1 arse ! yeates ran away to the uk to avoid paying what he owed here – came back to the same job spokesperson for the ‘entitled’ few ! cooper is another champagne socialist – sucks up to fg and ff just like the rest !!

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    Jan 8th 2019, 10:11 PM

    Like a moth to a lightbulb?

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    Jan 8th 2019, 10:30 PM

    @TamuMassif2019: Its more like flies to shyte.

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    Jan 8th 2019, 11:24 PM

    I presume that want to present are politinns with pensions under Fifty as there are plenty of THEM

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    Jan 9th 2019, 10:28 AM

    How about using ordinary people who the policies in govt affect, that would be good to watch. Someone with real questions not rehearsed!!

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    Jan 9th 2019, 12:22 PM

    @Linda Waters: oh ! leo wouldnt like that one little bit – !! his media spin machine not able to control some one !!! not a chance !!

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    Jan 9th 2019, 2:43 AM

    Healy-Rae co-Hosting was a Gimmick at poor ol’ Michael’s expense, and in fairness it Capped the lot as a Spoof.

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    Jan 9th 2019, 9:34 PM

    Shane Ross knocked on his door on Christmas Eve and asked to co-present.

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