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The Labour Court recommendation was made in 2008 LEAH FARRELL

Hundreds of employment scheme supervisors to strike over 11-year-old claim for pension rights

CE scheme supervisors will stage a 10-hour stoppage over the court’s recommendation from 2008 about their pension rights.

HUNDREDS OF EMPLOYMENT scheme supervisors are to hold a one-day strike today as they seek the implementation of an 11-year-old Labour Court recommendation.

Community Employment (CE) scheme workers represented by SIPTU will stage a 10-hour stoppage as they call for the introduction of a pension scheme.

The scheme is designed to help those who are long-term unemployed to return to work by offering part-time and temporary placements based within local communities.

The supervisors, who are privately contracted by Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection, oversee the progress of those who partake in the scheme.

A third of supervisors – around 400 workers – are expected to strike today.

“We’ve been trying to have the recommendation implemented for a long time,” SIPTU organiser Eddie Mullins tells TheJournal.ie.

“We got a commitment from Brendan Howlin, the previous Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform, in 2015 that he would resolve it, but a change in government has seen to that.”

The union also claims that a letter was circulated by the Department to those taking part in the dispute to suggest that funding for the schemes would be reduced if the strike goes ahead.

SIPTU hit back at the letter, saying its members were “greatly angered” by the move, while also claiming they had yet to hear from Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform Paschal Donohoe about its demands.

The supervisors will withdraw their labour today from 8am to 6pm, while protests will also take place at the Department of Finance, as well as outside INTREO offices in Cork, Athlone, Letterkenny, Galway, and Waterford.

Contacted by TheJournal.ie, the Department said that no such letter was sent. 

Mullins has not ruled out further action if the Government does not respond to the strike.

“It’s absolutely something we’ll consider,” he says.

“There’ll be further action taken if the situation isn’t resolved. We’ll review what happens on Monday first, and then take action after that if necessary.”

A spokesperson for the Department of Employment and Social Protection offered to accommodate anyone on the scheme affected by the strike later in the week.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 10:18 AM

    Jourinal, please don’t allow comments if all you are going to do is shred anything that doesn’t suit your biased narrative, either open said article for comments and leave the opinions and/or observations up or don’t open them at all if all you are going to do is interfere with them.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 10:35 AM

    @Ken O’Neill: If you’d like to dictate what goes on in a comments section then you may need to set up your own site.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 10:45 AM

    @Diarmuid Hunt:

    I already have, and it’s a free speech zone, something you and you’re authoritarian ilk wouldn’t be interested in.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 3:14 PM

    @Ken O’Neill:
    Why are you still here then?

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    Aug 15th 2023, 11:55 AM

    Looking at reports coming out, something is seriously off about this.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 11:57 AM

    @Thomas Gareth McMahon: Tell me more. Have a look at this video of the fire and let me know anything you see that’s odd.

    https://youtu.be/jRLBn-keTV8

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    Aug 15th 2023, 12:03 PM

    @Thomas Gareth McMahon: There is literally no event that some won’t look at and IMMEDIATELY assume it’s fake. and then seek out those that would support their belief.

    You’re the very definition of a “reflexive contrarian”.

    “reflexive contrarianism is, as the economist Adam Ozimek puts it, a “brain rotting drug.” Those who succumb to that drug “lose the ability to judge others they consider contrarian, become unable to tell good evidence from bad, a total unanchoring of belief that leads them to cling to low quality contrarian fads.””

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    Aug 15th 2023, 12:13 PM

    @Tricia G: I mentioned nothing about it been fake.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 12:29 PM

    @Thomas Gareth McMahon: What’s “seriously off about this”?

    Do you think, perhaps, the reason it looks odd to you is there’s a mismatch between what you expect and what you see, not because there’s anything actually odd about this fire, but it’s because you don’t actually know or have a wrong idea of what a fire should look like.

    Look at past Forest fires, like the Camp Fire in California a few years ago. Compare it with this fire, see if there’s anything different with this fire, or from you expectations.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 1:08 PM

    @David Jordan: this footage really brings home the reality of this disaster.
    Difficult to comprehend when you just hear it on the news,etc.
    Its really hard to grasp.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 1:46 PM

    @David Jordan: No civil defence alarms were sounded. The initial fire was deemed contained 2 hours before it spread in earnest – a big reason many were caught off guard. The local government actively cut off escape routes and didn’t provide any assistance/info on how to escape besides, and I quote, ‘Jump in the ocean.’ The traffic jams which resulted became an inferno, most of the dead died in their cars. People are being identified by their jewellery because their bodies have been turned to ash. All easily preventable deaths. People on the island have been sounding the alarm that something is not right. Do some digging, it’s all there, go look for it. Just because MSM isn’t saying it’s fishy doesn’t mean it’s not fishy. Dunno why you’re acting so smug David.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 2:32 PM

    @Dylan Bvrn: I see.

    Incompetence interpreted as malice by the conspiracy minded.

    “The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory, is that conspiracy theorists believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is actually chaotic. The truth is that it is not The Iluminati, or The Jewish Banking Conspiracy, or the Gray Alien Theory.

    The truth is far more frightening – Nobody is in control.

    The world is rudderless.” – Alan Moore

    Also, did you see the winds that day? The wind increased to near hurricane force and fanned the flames. The fire, that seemed contained, expanded rapidly. You are familiar with bowing on an ember to make flames?

    As for the civil defence alarms, they are only supposed to sound for tsunamis. The idea is they were not sounded as they would cause people to flee inland, towards the fire. Also, the power went out.

    “local government actively cut off escape routes”

    Evidence needed.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 2:41 PM

    @Tricia G: Oh goody! Another lecture on Tricia’s new favourite expression.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 6:08 PM

    @David Jordan: Civil defence sirens are supposed to be used to warn populations of approaching danger – not exclusively for tsunamis. The very fact that many of these deaths can be attributed to incompedence/lack of action is enough to warrant a closer look. People didn’t know a fire was happening until their houses were in flames. This could have been prevented.
    it’s funny that literally nobody mentioned a conspiracy, jewish bankers, or any of that crap, but as soon as someone says ‘something feels off’ you are ready to talk down to them as nutjob wackos who dont understand fire. How about you point that lazer-focused scrutinty at those who are supposed to be managing this disaster – may be more fruitful than jumping the gun on people expressing vague disbelief on the official reporting.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 6:17 PM

    @David Jordan: As for ‘Evidence needed’ I would say just go onto any social media platform and actually look for posts from people in Lahaina, but you probably wouldn’t believe anything could possibly be amiss unless it is explicitly stated by a Big Boy Official Source.
    In lieu of evidence, here is a quote: “The midwit is incapable of drawing on multiple streams of information, from many different domains, to understand the novel information in the broader context of a system. To compensate, the midwit turns inward, focusing with increasing resolution and detail into the confines of the information itself. To the midwit, this is nuance. To the genius, he is missing the forest for the trees.” -Me ma.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 10:34 AM

    Comments closed on yet another Israeli terror attack on defenceless Palestinian’s. Comments section was obviously not dancing to the sick IDF tune…journal yet again exposing their true agenda and nature. They have some neck pretending to bastions of truthfullness and righteousnous

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    Aug 15th 2023, 10:36 AM

    @Tomás: Indeed they are bought globalist shills.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 10:46 AM

    @Tomás: .
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    That’s what I was alluding to in my comment above.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 6:08 PM

    @Ken O’Neill:
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    Follow the money…

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    Aug 15th 2023, 10:35 AM

    Absolutely horrendous. Weirdest “wildfire” I’ve ever seen reported on.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 12:22 PM

    The rich elites will be delighted, they have been fighting the locals in lahina for decades to buy their property. What a stroke of luck for them. I bet Oprah’s path she build through her 1000 acres came in handy. She put it there so locals could escape wild fires.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 12:37 PM

    @James murphy: Why is Oprah singled out? Her nearest property is 30 km away on the east side of the island. Clint Eastwood has property just north of Lahaina, Mick Fleetwood has property just east of the town. I noticed others post about Oprah last night, is there source for this claim?

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    Aug 15th 2023, 11:39 AM

    RIP to all those that lost their lives. How does metal melt in a house fire?

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    Aug 15th 2023, 11:46 AM

    @Leslie Dwyer: and trees stay standing… Strange indeed

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    Aug 15th 2023, 11:49 AM

    @Leslie Dwyer: it depends on the metal what it’s melting point is for example aluminum is 660°C (1220°F) it must have been terrifying for those caught up in the fire may they rest in peace. I can only imagine how devastating this tragedy.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 12:00 PM

    @Tomás: A simple google search would explain why trees are still standing.

    “no species is adapted to live in fire itself, but animals and plants can adapt to a fire regime. A fire regime includes, among other things, fire frequency, fire intensity and patterns of fuel consumption. Plants have a distinct disadvantage, compared to animals, in the face of fires. They can’t run, fly, creep or crawl out of a fire’s path. But they have adapted to survive, and even depend on, regular fire.

    From armouring themselves with thick bark to developing ways to protect precious seeds, trees have developed several fascinating adaptations in response to a predictable fire pattern.”

    This nonsense conspiracy theory that it was all “staged”, proven by the fact trees “didn’t burn” (spoiler – they did) is up there with the flat earth one and that birds aren’t real but spies for the Govt.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 12:09 PM
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    Aug 15th 2023, 1:23 PM

    @David Jordan: they do, but should metal melt and brick houses completely disintegrate in the same type of wild fires?

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    Aug 15th 2023, 2:14 PM

    @Tomás: Trees contain quite a lot of water. The wood will not burn until the water boils off. This takes some time. The outer wood and bark may char, but leave the inner wood standing.
    (You can try an experiment to demonstrate this. Take a twig from a living tree. Hold it over a flame. It will not burn for some time. You may see water boiling off as steam.)
    I believe wind had an effect on the heat of the fire, much as a bellows might be used in metal smelting to raise the heat of a furnace. There was a tropical storm in the area at the time, (which is believed to have caused an electical fire).

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    Aug 15th 2023, 3:43 PM

    @Tricia G: birds are real???

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    Aug 15th 2023, 10:20 AM

    Shooting fish in a barrel.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 1:45 PM

    It is always highly entertaining to read somebody trying to make a connection between ‘free speech’ and the comments sections on The Journal.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 10:16 AM

    @James O’Brien: You’re.

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    Aug 15th 2023, 5:29 PM

    Bomb is a curious word to use for sure…..

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