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Felicity Jones says women have been 'put off' Hollywood by sexism

She was speaking ahead of the release of the film On The Basis of Sex, about US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

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THE US SUPREME Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg (or RBG to her fans) is the subject of a new film about her trailblazing ways in the face of abject sexism – and the two stars of the movie say they are passionate about change being needed in Hollywood.

In the #MeToo era, post-Weinstein conversations about the film industry are focused on how to get a more diverse Hollywood, and how to ensure people can work safely on set.  For British actress Felicity Jones – who plays the Brooklyn-born Bader Ginsburg in the movie On The Basis Of Sex – there is much change yet to happen, but the film is an example of how it can be done.

“I would love to see the industry embrace a more 50/50 split in terms of the crews on film sets and television sets. That creates a much better working environment,” she told TheJournal.ie when we met her in a London hotel earlier this week. She and Hammer were there to promote On The Basis Of Sex, which focuses on Bader Ginsburg’s college and early career years. Hammer plays Ginsburg’s husband, tax attorney Martin, who was a man far ahead of his time, encouraging his wife with her career and running the household with her. 

On The Basis of Sex Screening - New York Armie Hammer and Felicity Jones arrive on the red carpet at the 'On The Basis Of Sex' UPI / PA Images UPI / PA Images / PA Images

Bader Ginsburg was instrumental in helping change sexist laws in the US, and now occupies an important role on the Supreme Court after being appointed by Bill Clinton. Notably, the movie is directed by another female outlier, Mimi Leder, who also directed Deep Impact, the Peacemaker, and episodes of ER and the Leftovers.

Leder’s feminist focus meant that equality on set was a given. “We were very lucky with On The Basis Of Sex that we did have that, and we shot in Montreal and [gender equality] was a huge priority for Mimi Leder the director, and it made for a much better working environment,” said Jones.

The film shows how Bader Ginsburg faced overt sexism throughout her time at Harvard (where she was one of nine female students) and when she tried to find a job as a lawyer. But despite this, she pushed forward and helped to literally change America.

A generational shift

Not Real News Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg AP / PA Images AP / PA Images / PA Images

What can the movie teach us in the #MeToo era? “Well, we’re starting to see the industry shift and adapt, and obviously we’re in a post-Weinstein era, and so what I think fundamentally is the working environment has to change so that it is for everyone,” says Jones, focusing on Hollywood.

“At the moment it is so difficult for people who have children, it’s a very unsociable industry to work in and we’re just starting to see the beginnings of that change. And also encouraging young women to go into directing at a younger age. And I think the more we will see a generational shift… but obviously women have been put off and I hope that with the changes post-MeToo movement, that we’ll see an industry that is more friendly to women going into it.”

This year’s Oscars have been the focus of criticism because of the fact that there are, yet again, female directors were snubbed (even though there were incredible films directed by women like Lynne Ramsay and Debra Granik). When asked if change in this area will come quick enough, Armie Hammer told TheJournal.ie:

It’s funny when you say quick enough, will it ever seem quick enough for us? Probably not. But do I think that is a change that needs to happen? Yeah, definitely.

Hammer’s career took a sharp upward trajectory when he starred in Luca Guadagnino’s 2017 film Call Me By Your Name. It became an important LGBT film because of its depiction of a romance between his character, Oliver, and young student Elio, played by Timothée Chalamet. Like his current film, it showed how society’s view of topics can evolve. 

Justice Ginsburg once indicated that though culture can change, it’s a change in law that is needed to really transform things. But does Hammer think that movies can help bring about societal change? He’s not so sure. “While I am very romantic of what I think film can do, can film actually change the world, probably not… but at the same time it’s an art medium that is very easily digested. You can watch a film and it can have a massive impact or effect on one person,” he said.

So while you might not change the whole world you can change that person’s world. And film is a wonderful way for people to see another perspective, to sort of get an idea of maybe my idea and my way of thinking isn’t the only way and I think that’s a powerful part of the medium.

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For Jones, some of the frontrunners at the 2018 Oscars do demonstrate that changes are occuring. “Culturally I’ve seen the stories have shifted and obviously with Roma and The Favourite we are seeing women being front and centre of those stories,” she said.

“But still the key is to make sure the women are the storytellers. And that as we know is yet to shift.”

“It is so important that we effect change together, I think that is the key,” she continued. “And with someone like Mimi [Leder] it is because people who are in a position of being able to dictate who they employ, that they really pay attention to making sure that it is an equal landscape.”

Armie Hammer said that the MeToo era has “taught us is that the fight that Ruth Bader Ginsburg started in the 50s and 60s and 70s still has not been won”.

For Jones, it’s a matter of learning from the past in order to move forward. “I think what’s important to learn from that is that things can change, that countries have to adapt, societies have to adapt and we’re in a great period of massive change where we do expect equality between men and women,” she said.

“And we do achieve that by working together – ultimately to make the world equal for each other.”

On The Basis of Sex is released in Irish cinemas on 22 February, rated 12A.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:08 PM

    Europe is in for a rough few years if not decades. Ireland has a chance to avoid this mess if we wanted to but we probably won’t.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:13 PM

    Please explain how Pt Pat??

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:14 PM

    Not letting Muslim ghettos form. It’s pretty simple.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:24 PM

    Exactly no mosques here as well we can’t have Catholic Churches over there so that’s how it should be

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:24 PM

    Well, if the far left has their way, we’ll have large Muslim ghettos within the next couple of years.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:35 PM
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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:59 PM

    The Saudis are hosting a dinner to celebrate Canada taking in 25,000 refugees. I think that speaks for itself. https://twitter.com/reutersLjungg/status/713126627220320256

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    Mar 25th 2016, 12:06 AM

    The left generally wants to let the refugees in, and I agree there’s not much thought going in to what happens next, but I don’t think anyone on any side of the discussion wants to see an Irish Molenbeek forming.

    We seem to have managed reasonably well with integration up to this point, but I wonder what the economic demographics of the Irish Muslim community are? Pretty different to desperate refugees, I would guess.

    If we don’t have a plan to integrate them, then the best case outcome is an insular and unhappy community of poor Muslims, which is bad enough without considering the worst case.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 12:30 AM

    Think you’ve got it a little muddled up there… I think it’s the responsibility of the person arriving in to that country to be pro active with integration..eg. put in effort to learn the language, accept the culture, the social norms and the values of that country. Many Muslims do, however many parts of England are an example of no attempt of integration…don’t speak english, don’t value women, don’t like western values, don’t work, and in some areas even go to schools which socialize students in to hating the west – and that’s FACT, it was widely reported in the news. I don’t think you should be allowed in a country unless you consent to live by their values and norms. Citizens from the west find themselves in trouble for holding hands in some of these middle east countries!!! Allow women and children in to Europe and the men of fighting age can be armed to fight their own war…what’s the point of thousands of immigrants sitting in camps in Germany, France and Brussels when ground troops are needed to defeat Isis.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 12:33 AM

    An Irish Molenbeek hasn’t formed yet because we have a relatively tiny amount of Muslims. Our government is just as limp wristed as other European governments , they have no plan, they will never have a plan, Ghettos will form. The Government would rather Irish citizen die than risk being called racist.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 12:59 AM

    Michael…i cringe when i think of multiculturalists as they sell their pie in the sky happy clappy nonsense as i remember how sheik/sultan/imam/ayatollah halawa…obergruppenfuhrer of the clonskeagh moske….after 21 years in ireland..WONT speak english!!!!

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    Mar 25th 2016, 7:01 AM

    I went for lunch in that mosque once. About eight years ago now I’d say. Food was great and very good value. We were the only non Muslims there and I remember feeling a little intimidated at first, but no-one really batted an eyelid. No-one went out of their way to talk to us either apart from the guy serving behind the counter. He had to explain what things were because we had no idea. We never went back. Perhaps we felt more uneasy subconsciously. But the atmosphere was a peaceful one, that’s my point.

    Anyway, without doubt it is a duty of the government to properly control borders, and to publicise this fact so that no-one is under any illusion. However, you can’t just March people, who already live here, out. It is not the duty of the locals to reach out to the incomers to help with social integration, but it surely can’t harm to try. If more non Muslims started eating in the Mosque more regularly, would the communities start to open dialogue more? Who knows. The only thing we know is that the people here are here to stay. It is then up to every individual whether they want to try and assist with an integration, or just type things up on social media. I am no naive enough to know some countries are in trouble, but maybe Ireland needn’t be. Two tiered approach is needed. Strict borders and integration of existing Muslims.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 7:07 AM

    Once apon a time it was believed the communists or fascists would be the cause of European downfall…funny how it turned out to be the liberals. They have opened the font door of our house and let everyone and anyone in….no checks or screening. Europe will be a basket case in 20 years.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 7:54 AM

    Gus it seems you were welcome at the Mosque but only on their terms, they kept you at arms length thats the way many Muslims like it, integration but only when its to their benefit.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 7:57 AM

    Pt Pat, Muslims are not a race, they come from many different countries so its nor racist to want their immigration stopped.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 8:02 AM

    Gus S the regressive far left like to use the word racist for anyone with a different opinion, its their version of godwins law.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 8:41 AM

    @Pt pat……………….That’s why it must not be left to the govt. All concerned will have to get organized to defend ourselves. This can be done by reaching out to comrades in spirit and promoting solidarity.
    Time is running out……….

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:17 PM

    I agree, but I think Ireland has suffered a lot less from this problem already for one reason or another, in comparison with other European countries that is. What will be the turning point for us? An influx of refugees? Legitimate question here I apologize if it comes off antagonizing

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:26 PM

    Probably an influx of refugees we bring in ourselves or the rejects that come from the UK. You can’t have Islamic terror attacks without Muslims it’s the same reason why the ETA don’t kill people in Japan, there aren’t any Basque Nationalists.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:10 PM

    The difference between Ireland and the French, British and Belgians is that we haven’t ravaged countries with colonialism for hundreds of years, nor do we have any troops abroad serving in foreign lands (other than with the UN). Refugees have nothing to do with it, neither does the colonial history of these counties justify such attacks but you can’t randomly assign blame to refugees purely because of their religion.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:15 PM

    Keep telling yourself that Carl, you are a kuffr so they will have no qualms about removing your head. India never colonised a Muslim country the opposite is true (The Mughals) but that didn’t stop the Mumbai attacks.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:46 PM

    They are coming.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:58 PM

    So far, none of the attacks seems to have anything to do with today’s Syrian and Iraqi refugees, nor even the migrants from north Africa. They’ve all been orchestrated by European-born, non-integrated Muslims from poor economic backgrounds- the the children of previous generations of migrants.

    You can’t have Islamic terror attacks without Muslims, that’s true. However, you also can’t have them without low employment and poor integration. None of these three elements alone results in terrorism, it takes the combination.

    So it’s possible we’ll let in our 4000-20,000 refugees, and find ourselves with a radicalism problem in 20 years time, but only if we allow those three elements to combine.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 12:09 AM

    Or, more sensibly, we could simply not take in 4000-20,000 Muslims, some of whom may arbitrarily decide to turn on us in the near future and avoid the all problems and guff that comes along with these people entirely.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 12:11 AM

    Except that one of the Paris attackers was an Iraqi “refugee” and most if not all have fought in Syria and returned through the porous borders. I know it’s not terrorism but the Cologne assaults were done by refugees. The youth unemployment rate in Spain, Greece and many Eastern European countries is higher than in Molenbeek. Most of their integration and unemployment problems are self inflicted anyways. Nobody forced them to Ghettoise or prevent women from working and in the UK Hindu & Sikh immigrants get better jobs then native Brits so it’s not racism.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 1:44 AM

    Pat, where do you read this stuff or are you just making it up? (That’s not a request to link me to some right-wing nut job conspiracy site).
    You reference India and refer how they never owned colonies but were still victim to Islamist attacks. Those attacks are completely different to Brussels and Paris, they were committed by a Pakistani outfit and if you know anything about Indian history you’ll see that referencing the Mumbai attack like you just did is totally irrelevant.
    Your logic is totally flawed, your response to my comment is genuinely wrong regardless of up votes or down votes. I know you shouldn’t outright call someone’s opinion wrong, but you using the Mumbai attacks as reasoning for Islamist attacks essentially being random is factually wrong.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 2:17 AM

    @Declan Madsen……………What’s stoppin’ ‘em from gettin’ jobs and integratin’? Who brought jobs to all the Irish like myself who went away to find work rather than expect to be spoon-fed everything.
    Have they no pride?Have they no self-respect? Have they no responsibility? Have they no gratitude?
    Without these qualities yer on a downward spiral no matter who you are or where yer from.
    As for your assertion that terrorists are from poor and poorly integrated many studies debunk this. See below for stats on that score,
    ———-”Social scientists have collected a large amount of data on the socioeconomic background of terrorists. According to a 2008 survey of such studies by Alan Krueger of Princeton University, they have found little evidence that the typical terrorist is unusually poor or badly schooled. Claude Berrebi of the RAND Corporation compared the characteristics of suicide-bombers recruited by Hamas and Islamic Jihad from the West Bank and Gaza with those of the general adult male Palestinian population. Nearly 60% of suicide-bombers had more than a high-school education, compared with less than 15% of the general population.——–”
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/01/this-just-in-poverty-doesnt-cause-jihad-terrorism

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    Mar 25th 2016, 3:43 AM

    Carl, you’re just dead wrong. The reason we haven’t had attacks is because we have a comparitively lower Muslim population, because we weren’t an attractive prospect for immigration. This means Muslims growing up here have grown up in majority Irish communities and adapted to our customs. In France however, 25% of teenagers are Muslim, in London Mohammed is the most popular boys’ name, In Sweden, the leftist capital of the world, there are police no-go zones in the Muslim areas where they attack anyone not from the area on sight.

    I can’t understand why people search desperately for a reason for these atrocities when it’s staring them in the face: http://i.imgur.com/aWqf0K7.jpg

    I remember a conversation with a Lebanese Christian man, who told me about how his town changed over time. It was the same as what is happening in Europe. He had friends in the Muslim community, but when the community grew to a large enough size that his friendship wasn’t needed, he was cut off. The demographic change continued, and where the argument from the Muslim community in previous generations had been that all faiths should be respected, once they reached around 30% of the population they began to impose their rules (if you look up London Sharia Patrols the same thing is happening now). Following this, Christians left the town in droves, and any idea of respecting all faiths went out the window. No hijab/burqa/shawl, you were in danger.

    The gradual creeping of Islam into the Indian subcontinent occurred similarly, while the destruction of Coptic Christianity in Egypt is nearing completion and they have regularly been the targets of Islamic attackers.

    You are free to tell me all about the brutal colonial past of Lebanon, India and Egypt. Maybe they deserve it for some reason like you seem to think European people do?

    Anyone who looks at the patterns in history and reads about the doctrine of Taqiya (essentially a practice dating back to the time of Mohammed of concealing the extent of your devotion to Islam until it is opportune to reveal it) would have to think twice about the wonders of multiculturalism, when one culture, it seems, is sworn to destroy all others.

    I think we should do all we can to help the people in Syria through charity and the establishment of refugee camps in neighboring countries, but the idea we should establish a sizeable Muslim minority in every single country in Europe, given the centuries long track record of this regressive cult, is dangerous thinking.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 7:55 AM

    Ever hear of the Ottoman Empire?

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    Mar 25th 2016, 8:00 AM

    @ScewMadd

    Spot on

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    Mar 25th 2016, 8:01 AM

    @Carl

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    Mar 25th 2016, 8:46 AM

    Watch ‘by the numbers it explains a lotl

    https://youtu.be/pSPvnFDDQHk

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    Mar 25th 2016, 11:51 AM

    And to think our government can’t even deport an ISIS recruiter,but on the other hand they are bending over backwards to return an Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood wanna be Jihadist,who is facing charges in Egypt..madness

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    Mar 25th 2016, 2:31 PM

    My thoughts exactly! !!!

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    Mar 25th 2016, 2:32 PM

    Watched a YouTube video on that just last night! !!

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:38 PM

    As much as it pains me to say it, I’d be surprised if there isn’t some kind of attack at the Euros this summer in France.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:53 PM

    It’s almost a certainty, very sad that it is unsafe to go to country an hour away from ourselves to watch some football. I don’t think this is the peaceful post-war Europe anyone dreamed of.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:16 PM

    He should be hung on public display, send a message to the rest of them..

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:24 PM

    England has come off lightly so far given that their society has completely broken down.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:50 PM

    Not sure about that Seamus they had the London bombings and of course the horrific murder of Lee Rigby and luckily enough the authorities foiled other Islamic terror plots in particular the Liquid bomb plot if these guys had evaded arrest the death toll would’ve been horrendous. make no bones about it Britain will be hit again in the near future as will many other countries in Europe and America of course as this cancer continues to spread unabated all over the civilised world!.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:40 PM

    Here is a link to a great documentary about the Liquid Bomb Plot, would put the hairs standing up on the back of your neck scary stuff!

    http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/137097/The_Liquid_Bomb_Plot/

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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:49 PM

    William….they are still ahead if you include the numerous rape gangs that specialise in runaway and in care white girls…

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    Mar 25th 2016, 12:09 AM

    Forgot about that Peter.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:42 PM

    The conversation just needs to shift from lambasting anyone without a completely positive feeling about potential and very REAL radicalisation and pre existing European ghettos or we will be at risk of attacks by people existing around us. Belgium and France are already facing up to the reality that most of the ones responsible were already living among them that is terrifying.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:11 PM

    French man ?

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:25 PM

    Not really hard to understand . probably born in France to Muslim parents.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:59 PM

    Fundamentalist Right wing Christians would never bomb the crap out of innocent people in foreign countries. …..Oh Wait!…. Bush and Blair’s legacy is what we are suffering now- 2 million Dead – cities and towns bombed into the stone age- the anti war/ peace activists all said this would increase terrorism – it doesn’t matter where you are, if you are victimised and see your people butchered you will want to hit back! If Ireland was blanket bombed like this the Irish abroad would rise up! Only when the cycle is halted will peace prevail! Religion and greed are the root of our problem for thousands of years- time to ditch them both!!

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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:08 PM

    Good man David there always room for the useful idiot , Islam is a medieval belief system , Christianity for the most part has been sorted out through Reformation and more recently rejection , until Islam reforms itself and enters the Age of Enlightenment its going to be a major problem , holding your breath for this isn’t recommended however , any Muslims entering Europe should understand what they are getting into , if women’s rights , gay rights etc etc are unacceptable then grand , bye bye

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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:08 PM

    David, IS takes particular delight in torturing and beheading members of their own religion, so you can rule that out as a reason for their behaviour.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:32 PM

    David I agree that American wars have increased terrorism but to imply it is the main cause is false. There have been far worse wars that have completely destroyed countries but genocidal terrorist groups bent on world domination didn’t spring up. Also most terrorists aren’t from Iraq or existed before the Iraq war ( Boko Haram, Al Qaeda, Jabat al Nusra, all European born terrorists, Taliban). Islam is the main cause, jihad didn’t start in 2003 it goes back to Mohammed and his Meccan wars and genocides of multiple Jewish tribes to spread the Ummah. They are following his example.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:32 PM

    I don’t see anyone blanket bombing Nigeria or Somalia or Indonesia for that matter David?.

    Does the Bali Bombings, Boko Haram and Al Shabbab ring a bell with you David?.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:58 PM

    Pt pat…contemporary right now as the Syrian army are about to re-take it….Palmyra was built by the romans,protected by the Syrians,taken by sunni muslims (ISIL) following a slaughter,destroyed by ISIL following another ritualistic slaughter of 24 shia Syrian soldiers by 24 Sunni children….Europe,the US,the west,NATO….played NO part in this microcosm of the Syrian war.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 8:02 AM

    Imagine, John Lennon was right!

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:45 PM

    Dreadful carry-on, always the innocent who pay the price, be they in Iraq, Afghanistan, France or the Aegean Sea. Sad state of affairs.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 2:36 AM

    Islamists/Jihaders, almost like a second nature to them, are always looking for the ‘sacred pretext’/the excuse to bomb, blame, attack ,rob rape and pillage the kafirs. If not one pretext they’ll find another.Theyv’e been at it for almost 1500 yrs and still find it works.Their paid propagandists are all over The West- including here on the journal- pluggin’ away at instilling guilt trips on the naive ones.
    Be Ullamh!

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:40 PM

    Discrimination will breed radicalism

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:46 PM

    Islam will breed radicalism

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    Mar 24th 2016, 10:48 PM

    I don’t remember black people blowing up cities in America. European Muslims have been so coddled in Europe to the point where their crimes are being covered up. Following a violent religion is the reason they are blowing themselves up.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:24 PM

    Typical far left regressive response by Kreg, Muslims are hardly helping their own image by constantly slaughtering each other along with the infidels, the more they slaughter people in European cities I’m afraid the inevitable outcome will be more and more hatred and distrust of Muslims, and often the non violent Muslim is a silent supporter of these acts.

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    Mar 24th 2016, 11:59 PM

    Wahabbism will breed genocide.

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